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one of the victims, the unnamed victims of Alaska, a killer, Robert Hansen, oh yeah, who you covered yet has been, defied the maker array, Baker, butcher and butter Baker yeah her name, is Miss Robin Palkee. So I'm glad she has her name back yeah and then another one is one of gay sees victims? I just saw that article. Yes, I saw it on the following pod cast and stronger. Am that is Francis Wayne, Alexander and he's from Chicago Illinois and his finally been. After all this fuckin time. It looks like in. Seventy eight is when he was discovered and has finally been identified. Now. I now love that we are still working on that yeah. I got it done it so important to give these doze their names back in their history and their identity, so their families actually have at least an end. The story I end up in a way to process their grief heartily. That's thanks. That's good news

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great will here we go as you know. This weekend is a landmark trademark, so I gotta be funded spooky fields story gas, and this is the mysterious death EDGAR Allan POE were sees it. S got visible, chill gap, know about this mysterious death. Was it the thing we buried as hard under the floor, and then he kept hearing it beating malware without that's another story: that's a different curtain. Authors death the sources I used today are the Smithsonian magazine, the EDGAR Allan POE House in museum. ground, pose society of Baltimore PBS American Masters Documentary, which I highly recommend and the poem museum soap, as you know, there's so much out there about EDGAR Allan POE. There are more

we'll biographies about him that our over six hundred pages long. So there's a to say about him, and I have six hundred pages. I've been how about him right now me sit back, settle it now, gonna, go over some basics and then get to the mysterious death. So let me hell you! Let me tell you love it. background: ok On January nineteenth, eighteen o nine EDGAR, which is a great fuckin name, should come back. Don't you think? Nope? Ok is born two parents, Eliza and David Po Eliza was a well known actress at the time and they have three kids together and then David abandons her and the family, which is shitty and then, by the time EDGAR is almost three. His beloved mother dies of tuberculosis at just twenty four years old. Oh no may now so

number, one in him being a macabre ramp, yeah first hit. Luckily, and quote ITALY: Upper Class couple job and Francis Alan take EDGAR and hence EDGAR Allan How is he where's? His really kind foster mom, but his fostered out is a fucking heart, ass, Dick who never really accepts EDGAR, as his like. Can he under Richmond Virginia and his name becomes EDGAR Allan POE, but he doesn't actually ever use the name Alan himself, because his hatred up is fostered ads are actually when he writes letters and signs emmets, EDGAR, PO ages, interesting so he's intelligent and rebellious. He begins raining poetry at a young age by seventeen he's engaged to marry a women M Elmira Roysterer, but he's also set to attend the University of Virginia and Charlottesville Elmira swear shall wait for PO to fit

college in our as you doing area love, so he had to college and soon finds out, he doesn't have enough money to pay for college because stepped adds like or his foster, dad like fuck. You wish if I can pay for it so EDGAR. Allan POE goes into gambling Dat trying to earn money to pay for college. He is an evil earn enough. He becomes by credit. come after him. Bad people come after him, so in those back to Richmond, it's his home Elmira. He finds out at broken her promise. So yet another heartbreak who she was age to someone else. Heartbroken poem moves to Boston and marry them. They publishes its first book, a poetry, Tamar Lane and other poems after a too you're still in the army and even joining and quitting point for awhile. Oh at twenty two. He moves to Baltimore Temerity say that where he lives in relatives including his aunt Maria Clam and her daughter Virginia, he is actually

happy here, finding a real sense of family in his relatives during for years in Baltimore and the early eighteen thirty's he switches from poems too short stories. So this is The gothic, like victorian era, where the culture of death is pretty normal. It's romanticized people were dropping dead, all the time from sudden illness or slowly withering away from TB and women died in childbirth regularly and so did their babies. So it's a time period where death is really the norm and you see a lot of US portraits of people of dead people before their buried. in others, creepy ones, be I'll, see, ya, until mores so little mementoes of the dad, like you get like a ring that has the dead persons braided hair in it she can see. find he like at sea, an elaborate gothic cemeteries become the norm. Southern

Macao feeling in the air and so stories that he writes that our supermarkets Cobb just flourish. So Pope published His first horror story, which leads to him, accepting an offer to be a writer for the periodicals, the southern literary messenger in Richmond, in which he candidates. do whenever he wants and when he settled enrichment pose app, but he had lived with Maria Clam and has Virginia move in with him to see Mary cousin sure is she thirteen and he is twenty seven. Oh yeah horse thou that happen with a time what a terrible time for thirteen year olds. So in in thirty seven pole, leaves the messenger moves to Philadelphia. bushes many of his famous pieces. At this point, like the tell tale her the pit, the pendulum, the murders in the rue morgue, which is the world's first modern, detective story in eighteen. Forty, five, Pope

publishes his most famous work, the raven it's an overnight fast and he becomes a household name- he's invited take our literate clients and give lectures and he's the first american writer to live completely off the money he makes writing. Well now he becomes like a famous fuckin author. Obviously that's what I just said According to the pole, museum quote poverty in many genres, but his contribution to horror is what makes him famous today. Paul revolutionise the genre. He was one of the first to involve deep, intuitive psychological horror. Sadly, after the raven is published, pose wife fifteen. Virginia China dies of cheaper says he now recovers from her death. Having lost the person he relies on for mental and emotional support. So all these women in his life has fostered from before had died. Just all these tragedies, in his life. He was back to Richmond and there he starts member.

Member old have Myra who had a name yeah start seeing her again. Oh yeah, she broke up with the they about. four widowed they're like hey. What's up yeah, let's recur Well, this thing and aid in forty nine they get engaged on September, seventh, eighteen, forty nine pole leaves Richmond heads to New York, he's gonna of his aunt Maria Clam, who you still of course lives and bring Acta rich men for the wedding day after leaving Richmond Pose boat arrives in Baltimore. However, he doesn't ever make it to Philadelphia or New York, because trade duties strikes, mysterious tragedies, habitats, Mysterious tragedy befalls before and falls him on October. Third, Google election day, a man named Joseph Walker, fines, forty old PO lying in the gutter outside of Baltimore pulling site, slash, tavern

at this time. Taverns are used as Pauling locations and voters are rewarded for their vote. With alcohol, hey, I mean get going the poem anyway, you can then shots shots very short stretch out. According to the Smithsonian magazine, when Walker finds him poets quote: delirious semi conscious unable to move son of his usual, like fancy. Blackwell sue he's stressed, in shabby second hand, clothes including that's rip stained faded and ill fitting his pants on the same condition and issues are worn out at the heels. Almost like someone switched his clothing beyond him. To top it all, PO is wearing a tattered palm leaf had for some reason, which is never wore Walker.

Power if there is anyone who he can call to help him and Pope Car Protocol on call handsomer selfishness. As I am a time traveller tell no one of this exchange bow gets enough energy to to say the named Joseph s Nod grass, not a great name so calls him he's a magazine editor who has like a medical training, as while snow grass arrive sees that power is in bad shape posed taken by carriage to the hospital delirious he's in and out of consciousness for the next few days and He sometimes he's were sometimes you just screamin into the air so delirious, however never learned enough to tell anyone what led him to we wearing different clothes and be in the gutter and October seventh po dies. But what caused his death Karen?

It seems like no one really knows for sure and articles from the time. The tsar there's only one reference to cause the Baltimore clipper reported that he died from congestion of the brain. ugly, swelling of the brain and according to the EDGAR Allan POE Society of Baltimore death certificates were required at the time and again, then see that anyone filed one for PO, so swelling of the brain is commonly world as the cause of death for someone when the examiner was unsure of what really happened. So yeah call technology here, That being said, there are many people who refuse to believe swelling killed the famous mystery writer. Instead, they believe the truth lies in one of at least twenty six published theories. I meant to cover every single one of you at eminent setback to cover a few of them, various involve alcohol. So it was well documented that PO couldn't handle his liquor. He'd get like shit faced

staggering off just wondering Co. However, any Ferris blaming alcohol consider that months before he died. He also became like big and the temperance movement. So he was drinker so him having died from alcohol seems unlikely whom but them likely reason people started assuming PO died from alcohol abuse was due to this. Do justice? Not grass he's pose death as a way to spread the temperance movement himself, so he traveled the country and gave talks, were he like exaggerate, the story of opposed death blames it on alcohol. People who were with PO on his file days agree that alcohol is involved, but it's an There are and should like how he got to that point since he didn't drank and so fails to explain his five day, disappearance or the fact that he has closed change strength, so samples of

His hair were tested recently to see if he was drinking before his death and results showed that he had low LE of lead in his body, meaning that he was most likely sober when he died then, one of the first series to stray from alcohol came from biographer E Oaks Smith in eighty, sixty seven, she wrote an article where she terrorized that he was the victim of beating she called the that, like ruffians, maybe beat him up to avenge that heap simply had beat up a woman himself. Oh that's theirs, proof of that at all, and then there are other theories around medical problems. Cholera is one of the big ones also impose here was tested for lead. Scientists look for mercury as well and they found that he had limited levels of mercury in the months before he died out, which makes sense because in July, in eighteen, forty nine after he was exposed to a cholera epidemic in Philadelphia, Doktor proscribed him like mercury chloride.

which would have given mercury poisoning. It feels like back then with a mystery like they are there, so many things that could kill you, lake jet Legit, very Alec. Wasn't there there is a thing were like the color grew. And they would die dresses with the color green with poison you, if you wore the draft yeah or wallpaper. That was a certain color green. I don't know if that was in it states but I mean like it just seemed like Big Mercury- was like. Oh, do a toothpick here, yeah, it's also the character of the man had her. There were mad hatteras because it was at the glue they used to make hats NEA made them go fucking insane. He wasn't the safest era that there was a lot of workplace safety. Now is your baby crying lethargic given Simone, ok or baby, and they would all to explain the test for that. That would explain the hallucinations and delirium before he died, but some- it's possible that pose a brain tumor. So too

six years after he died, pose coffin was dug up so can be relocated to different parts of the cemetery. His car was in bad shape, and so when the workers tried to move it, the coffin fell apart, but she never kind. really did on purpose. Custom scientists gave him some money to be like we want, as we want to look this body when he dropped his coffin is then that makes me think of disease at the most recent season of I? I think you should leave it to the convent written our laps right The reality is shown in the leg in reality show were or Cutler bodies just falling under the bond of yet often flops are coffin drop Stephen. Why are they all make a letter on ships and in the name of Scotland Flop, Governor blah Ok, so his room

install out superfine and when a skull was picked out, there's a mass rolling around inside of it and at first like all this is the brain, but now the brains like the first thing to deteriorate one doktor, speculated that the mass could have been like a calcified tumor still It just seems like that the lake it from far a theory like that, after with a body that had been buried, isn't super reliable. You know a mass of some hard mass also called a rock yes hymns. I mean theories include tuberculosis, pneumonia, epilepsy, diabetes, even rabies but the most sinister theory for this Gee hollowing Pow is murdered, This comes from the author, John evangelist Walsh, who believes that the brothers oppose Fiance Elmira killed him. He thinks that PO didn't make

Philadelphia, but was ambushed by Elmira brothers, who told him not to marry their sister. and so he was so scared that he disguised himself in a new outfit like thwart them and hidden Philadelphia. and then went back to rich men, so he could marry Elmira, but in Baltimore, brothers found hand, beat the shit out of em and forced him to get shit faced, knowing that he couldn't drink and that What led to him dying in the gutter sounding involved them either. Very complicated, but it happened now the most commonly accepted theory is that PO was a victim of coping this to me as the fucking. I've always has been so troubled by this idea. I've never heard of the coping accordingly.

miss only in magazine was an actual method of voter fraud practice by gangs in the nineteenth century, southern known thing that would happen and he was found outside of a tavern which was appalling place. So basically they take a victim. The victim would be kidnapped, forced to go and then they get their reward of food of a drink. They own make them drink that then they would change them the guy and do a disguise. So he could go back and vote again, and so these would be higher by politicians to make sure they got more votes. essentially, but they would force them that a drink, Every time much doesn't I mean just that doesn't seem like it, but they that's what they did psych undismayed. You know it makes me think of it like then, then, if the person's drunk there are automatically there's not a lot of empathy, its thing is when you ve heard of like stories, are p

get kidnapped, and then they shoot them up with dry, always like www drug user. So what you say doesn't have any merit re or your left, your more pliable and less able to to do whatever they say and yet is more easily confused b. I mean that seems right on the money, with all the detail ray of what you describe exactly, and it was unknown thing. It wasn't just a made up in our theory: so many curbing victims would consume tons of alcohol since there are voting multiple times and once the Cooper We're done with the voters. They just let them wander off completely share phase If he had more than one drink, he was exactly totally screw, so we could have died from alcohol poisoning because he had been kidnapped by coopers many things, theory is plausible, because the gutter was he was found in without side the pulling say an end. Appalling site were coopers were known to bring victim, not to mention poets found on election day.

so but in the end, pose cause of death. They like what most people think is. That it was swelling of the brain. But who knows why you know- and it seems that many p oh, what posed ass to be mysterious you now because his work and he still an icon. Historians completely changed literary word and dying from brain swelling just isn't that romantic yeah for some. as legendary EDGAR, Allan POE? But one ass mister ain't just to keep on that note. The attack physician. Doktor John Jay Morgan said that the night before he died in his delirium. He called repeatedly out for some one name Reynolds, but to this day the identity of this person name Reynolds remains a mystery to that is the mysterious death of EDGAR and per wow. That's good! I knew nothing of any of it. Ah such a literary master here. Clearly I mean now

that's fascinating! Also, just that idea like. Oh now, we have to add coping to all the ways you could die back then, what a shitty way to die. What a shame now at a time, just road, in gangs. We are now in their back and cool clause, yet was a gangs of new, like the rabbits, where the rabbit rather at the thought of the great movie. Well, my story has nothing to do with your story whatsoever. I cant connect to an interesting Skagway good that there was the up it is it's a story most people have heard about, but I didn't know any details of. So this is the case of some toy brown. Ok sources for this Wikipedia and pr article by Bobby Alan, a New York Times article by Christine Hauser Time, article by Katy Riley, Elaine

Baron wrote an article four time magazine or time: dot, com, Sharon, Lynn, Private, wrote an article four oxygen MA, he'd gotten on wrote an article four time, Rebecca seals wrote: a BBC News, article, six, the MAX wrote an article, an article four, the W p l, a news, Nashville Public Radio and John Garcia wrote an article for the Tennessee in and all of those art we have very long title. So I figured, I would just say it this source and the journalist and then that's What's the matter, you can go and look this up. Ok. So this starts with the murder of Johnny Alan. So, on the night of August, six, two thousand for sixteen old Centurion Brown stands in the parking lot of a sonic driving in National Tennessee. When she's approached by forty three year old, Johnny Michael Alan Alan

an army, veteran turned real estate agent, who also serves as a youth pastor at the Lakewood Baptist church where he's also started a homeless ministry, but to night. He is Pro listening a sixteen year old girl for says yeah oh Johnny, Alan Ass, enjoy, if she's hungry and if she's quote up for any action ball. They agree on a price of a hundred and fifty dollars and Cynthia and to his trautmann, but instead, going to local, more motel, which is the standard practice and in fact, since Toya lived at a motel with her pimp and boyfriend. Instead, Alan takes into it to his home and once there there he shows her his very large gun collection telling her. that he used to be a sharpshooter and the army. She will you're going to say that she felt that this splay was very threatening, but that's impossible to

prove because she's, the only one that was there at the to eat, rather they watch tv and then, according to some toy island, takes her to his bedroom, where he quotes grabs her in between her legs, real hard, so basic he initiates sex very violently. She already feels threatened. It then turns violent. He reaches the bad for something she will later go on to testify and some toy, believes that what is reaching for is a gun, so sheep, a forty caliber handgun out of her purse and she it's him in the back of the head, oh my god, he's just sixteen sixteen years on, so she then the cash that's in his wallet. She takes two of his guns jumps in

struck and drives away. She gets to Walmart parking Lot and ditches his truck there. She then hedges a ride with someone back to her home at the intense sweets motel and that's where her pimp Guerin ELM Aglaophon, whose nickname is cut throat, isay waiting. So then morning August. Seventy two thousand for the police come to the motel room and entire, is arrested and charged with first degree. Murder aggravated robbery and illegal possession of a handgun. Threem later on November, Fourteenth two thousand for a judge rules that sixteen year old Son toy can be tried as an adult, claiming that she is too dangerous to be tried in the juvenile court system. Is us so Dwayne never denies killing Alan, but she argues that she did it in self defense. The prosecution, clams its and toy planned to rob and kill him all along their first of evidence is the forensics report that shows Alan's body was positioned, laying

the bed and that his hands were inner locked behind his head witch hunt, dicks. Her claim that he reaching under the bed when she shot him, the process it also introduces enjoy as August Fourteenth two thousand forsake evaluation into evidence. It states that, while at the western Mental Health Institute since Toy to call her adoptive mother, but the nurse would not let her and then according to this nurses accounts in toys response by leaping over the desk grabbing the stars by our hair hating. Her and saying quote: I shot that man in the back of the head one time bitch, I'm gonna, you in the back of the head three times, I'd, love to hear your I'd spatter on the wall and quotas and their hospital employee corroborate this story in court. So the present allegations that some toy and told her fellow inmate that she killed Alan quote just to see how it felt to kill somebody and that she even a note confessing

the crime of forensic document. Examiner tells the court that they believe the note was indeed written by some to his hand, but the defence paints a much different picture. They are The Johnny Allen, was not the good man of faith that his friends and family believed him to be, but that he was a Editor, who exploded and threatened under age sex workers. They. her shooting was a clear cut ACT of Self Defence So the defence has several witnesses whose experiences with Alan corroborate this dark side of him. One woman who once went on a date with Alan testifies that, after accepting invitation to go back to his home, he big. To kiss her and when she told him she didn't want to have sex. He raped her that and also has a story from a seventeen year old girl who says that Alan When did the restaurant, where she worked, but he was so inappropriate and basically creepy with the young waitresses that they should

in her coworkers would argue over who had to go to his table guide and once he for a note on the back of a business card, saying quote your gorgeous I'd love to take you out some time. So let me now the judge, however, doesn't let this witness testify in front of the jury calling her. testimony irrelevant to the case. Sorry, tell your brown does not take the stand during her own trial and when it in August, two thousand six since is found guilty of first degree, murder and aggravated robbery. So in over two thousand sex, she sentenced to life with the possibility of parole after serving at least fifty one years users. So the positive Lydia Pearl. When she's sixty seven she's placed a maximum security prison. The Tennessee present. For women in Nashville I will go into her background, a little bit his sins Brown was born on January, twenty, ninth nineteen, eighty eight and Fort Campbell Kentucky to us

fifteen year olds, young mother and her mothers. Birth was the result of a rape. Let her mothers in toys. Grandmother had endured, oh my god, so she had a hard life from the beginning. Toy his mother struggles with alcoholism and addiction to crack cocaine and she and while she was pregnant, listen Toya, giving some I feel alcohol syndrome because into his father is not around and because her mother is in and out of prison Cincha is put up adoption, so she's placed loving supportive home, but the trauma of her early childhood is more than she or her adopt a family can manage as a minor scintilla commits various crimes and she's taken into custody of the Department of Children services from April two thousand one through September, two thousand three she's in various youth development centres around Tennessee and she almost always runs away. She's found returned and

Finally, she eventually just escapes entirely and by August two thousand for she's living on the streets of Nashville and When she meets cut throat, a pamphlet, the long criminal history of his own, including drug use, assault and rape. He claimed enjoy an ass, his own, be beats and rapes, her into submission and then traffic. Therefore, sex as a minor, while the tools gather in there. tell room at the in town: sweets. Ok. So, whilst in toys in prison for this murder, she Earnshaw G through an in prison schooling programme in March, thousand five she's also described as a model prisoner, and then two thousand ten year between two thousand ten and two thousand, and eleven. A documentary film maker named Berman contacts Toya he's been followed her case since her arrest and he wants to pro I'll her for a PBS special. So she agree and in March, two thousand and eleven, the film

facing life's enjoy a story errors, and it gives him where the chance to present her side of the story to the public ok. Memory which aired nationally, brings more attention to sequoias case with the new, formation about her background being brought to light. Her death attorneys push for a new trial in November of twenty twelve, they hope to use the fact of her needle alcohol syndrome and the abuse she suffered as a child to make the case that he is also a victim near. The attempt is another As for in jails and toy focuses on our studies and in December, twenty fifteen Sharon's an associate degree and liberal arts thrill of scam universities, prison schooling programme. She is a four point. GPA wow here late In May of twenty nineteen, she gets her bachelors professional studies in organizational leadership from nothing school and again, with a fork

point trees finances she also uses her experience. She meant her other young girls who are in prison how so, in between twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen Dan Berman releases. Another documentary this, it's a seven part series in partnership with PBS and a report for the Tennessee and named Anita wide wanting and the series of called sentencing children now in which they follow up on Centurion case this time it's right this. Basically, this documentary comes out right as the need to movement is really starting to gain ground, both in Hollywood and on social media and their release of a sentencing. Children helps into his case again get support, but this time from some pretty so came car Dashing Ryanair Braun. James are all retreating and, unlike

promoting the hashtag freeze and toy Brown, so the base golly. Her whole story goes viral and people really start paying attention. So pretty in calling for her release, gain hundreds of thousands of signatures Nero the end of his term Tennessee Governor Bill, wholesome search, sealing the press to grants and toy clemency, so the poor, four commuting centurions sentence gains legal footing in June of twenty twelve, with the. U S, Supreme court ruling that prohibits giving life sentences without parole to minors, so even those enjoy. It was technically eligible for parole after fifty one years that five decade weight is deemed unreasonable, given the mounting pressure, the Tennessee Supreme Court, holds a public hearing on May twenty, twenty eighteen forts and toys club see petition. Now this is incredibly rare. Only two percent of people in that

position ever get this kind of second chance, so at the hearing, a long list of people, defy sin: toys, defence, her fellow inmates vouch her good character, her professors from scam University say what a great didn't she's Ban prison staff attest to her had behaviour, even the prosecutor put her behind bars. Preston ship comes forward to speak on her back unprecedented, so the few people the testify against her this hearing Klute, a friend of Johnny Islands and the lead detective on this case. Active Charles Robinson he's Robinson says that she still present a danger to society and that there's quote no evidence of her being trafficked as a child. If you are camp when you're. Sixteen, that's them. If you live in a motel, live on the story of a guy named cut throat

So by the end of the hearing, the Parole board is split evenly in three with two member in favour of granting her immediate clemency to savour of reducing her sentence so that she's eligible for Paul in twenty five years, rather than fifty one years and then to fly denying any change in her sentence with this decision leaving things up in the air advocates. and Toya push the Tennessee Supreme Court to commute herself on the grounds that it violates the ruling. That was me in June of twenty twelve, which prohibits life sentences with no pearl for juveniles, but on December six, twenty eighteen, the court rules that, because There is a chance for parole after fifty one years, it still falls within the legal guidelines of the statue, but the public out I first in toys, freedom continues and governor Wholesome gets overwhelming number of phone calls and letters calling for him.

to grant executive clemency before his term. It is up in twenty nineteen D Charles Robinson right. two wholesome urging him again not to grant clemency in his. On page letter. He writes sin toy abroad. did not commit this murder because she was a child sex slave, as her advocates would lie. Cue to believe since Brown motive for murdering Johnny Alan in his sleep was robbery, but this war and the evidence first and Toya far outweighs the naysayers and on January seventh, twenty Nineteen governor, wholesome commutes, her sentenced to fifteen years, who so high as it she'll have ten years of supervised parole, but on seventh, twenty nineteen, exactly fifteen years from the day of her arrest centre, Your brown is released from prison, while noting the quote

extraordinary steps. Miss Brown has taken to rebuild her life. Wholesome states. That quote, society is better off with sin Toya out of prison. hey so in the immediate aftermath and toil limits, her interviews, making only a few public statements, she says quote. I look forward to using my experience, tat other women and girls suffering abuse and exploitation and a few months after her release. She's interviewed by the today show by CBS News and by the Associated press shells. Rights, a memoir, that's published in October of twenty nineteen, with the hope that it might led to meaningful criminal justice reform wow since her case The National NEWS Tennessee has changed its laws so that there's no longer legal consideration for the term child prostitute. anyone under age, Engaging in sex work is now considered a victim of child sex trafficking and will

treated as such, even when they commit a crime- oh my god, yeah so would act. He did like the whole thing actually did like basically events change here. So yes, men, vodka from rights for girls, which is an organization, the fight against the sexual abuse to prison pipeline notes that simple His case is a quote really. Orton reminder that we have to take a very nuanced approach to issues around criminal and juvenile justice reform. We have to your stand: the histories and backgrounds of young women and girls and what it is. That's actually propelling them into this system. Right. A network documentary is released in April of twenty twenty, that's about sin Toya, but she did not authorize it and she didn't choose very unhappy at its lack of focus on criminal justice reform. Today, and toil lives with her husband, Jamie Long, and they started a nonprofit called the foundation for Justice, freedom and mercy which were

to empower those who might be exploited by the current justice system, since, a brown will remain on parole until twenty twenty nine, so his past February's into gave a talk at the University of Tennessee, which was covered by the school newspaper. The? U T daily, beacon and an article written by the editor in Chief Alexander De Marco, and this is a quote from article Browns journey in the judicial system is not a rarity oftentimes. A child's introduction into the juvenile court system, begins school then, the choice to send that child to a facility such as a juvenile prison, rather than enroll them in preventive programmes, only furthers the child's involvement with the legal system, and then Sin Toy Brown is quoted as saying at this talk, stop always did in that you have to put a kid in a facility that shit

the last resort facilities are horrible, they are horrible. So the first Times toy around was arrested once was when she was twelve years old and that charge was first skipping school. Why and she was immediately sent to a juvenile facilities. Now were ok, so that's the story that that I want to do and wanted to cover yeah. But what's fascinating is a couple weeks ago, pro public via the website public? I asked they published very disturbing story by journalists marrow by night from now public radio and- Armstrong from Rapporteur for pro public and it took power, in Rutherford County Tennessee in April of twenty sixteen, police officers went to have good elementary school and they arrested for little girls, a sixth greater,

you, fourth graters, and a third greater who had been seen in the background of a Youtube video of an after school fight. So there was little boys fighting a five year old in a six year old trying to fight and older boy, and then there were some kids standing around and of Amr yelling known, oh, no, don't do it, but basically decided to try to arrest all the children in this video ah All of these little girls were black. The youngest one was eight years old, she's us and the church they were arrested on was quote criminal, possibility for the conduct of another, and that is not an actual charge. Okay, so of course, There is upper over this decision to arrest these children at school. Some a couple of them were actually handcuffed. One girl threw up one up to her knees like country, eleven children and all were arrested for being identified in this fight. Video this

this is all on the pro public article guy. They they were able to identify these children because they found one of the kids, whose name they knew and they went and said no one's gonna get in trouble tell us who else? Who else is standing around in a circle? So we can tat. We can basically tell them not to do this anymore, so the one kid was tricked into giving names of the other children in the video, and then they were all arrested by the cops like at school. Why The cops was wearing like up of flak jacket like a game. Acts like they were criminal, yes, so they only eleven children in our arrested for being identified and they eventually sued in federal court and got settlement? Basically it got worked out. You to read this article earlier. It's unbelievable the way this story, like shakes, and what do you come? find is this shop.

One statistic, that's that these reporters uncovered. So this is from the article quote. Among cases referred to juvenile court state, the statewide average in Tennessee, for how often children, were locked up, was five percent in raw. therefore counting it was forty. Eight percent hole shit so Rutherford, He also detained children from syrup other counties in Tennessee, and they two hundred and seventy five dollars a day, fuckin racket, Linda who who runs rather efforts, counties juvenile detention centre once said at a public meeting quote if we have de beds. We fill them with a paying customer, ah quote. So. There was also in this article statistic about the counties budget in two thousand five, the budget juvenile services, including court and detention Centre, staff, was a little under a million dollars. Nine hundred and sixty two thousand four hundred forty four dollars by twenty twenty,

it had jumped to all four million dollars: woolly shit in Tennessee Davidson County worsened, Brown lived and Rutherford COM where this story took place, share a border So basically there is a business that's taking place. This is the for profit jail system. We are that, starting with children and people, making a profit happily making a profit, by sending children through these juvenile facilities and especially at risk children who are already living these trumped. They know trauma, filled lives of of little.

Two no possibility is well in when it seems like in this. Article is the only reason, these kids, that the eleven that were arrested in the idea, the only reason baby all of this became an upper as because all these parents were like what in the hell, do you think you're doing and they had people to advocate for their. I scintilla Brown skipped school. I got arrested, went to a juvenile facility and was in the pipeline and the harrowing case of central brown care. an amazing I had then Now all that information, that is fucked fact, It's really dark, but I think everybody has to read, because now the pro public article came out on October, eighth, ok, and definitely like by retreated it lots of people engage or that it was not often went viral here say when you read the whole article, causes a long red and its basically, they start talking about

this there's a judge in that county, that is basically as this system set up in whose Ben voted in and has been there for like twenty years and they have rationalized how that basically four truancy for, like they basis you have decided why they get to arrests, black children and the end like its court, they decided, as for their own good ray it's theyve rationalized all this morning, while all the numbers are saying they're all making a ton of money off of it is it's the kind of thing like this is a criminal justice reform issue that lay we talk about stuff like that, because syn You'll killers are serial killer right. That's like the specified kind of area that that I had a true crime didn't shoot that you think of as true cry and what I think is kind of amazing in twenty when in Vietnam, currently

her is how much that changing. Where it's like you, whatever you interest might be in the? Can you believe TED. Bundy got away with it. For so long is now everyone's kind of turning their eyes to the rest of criminal justice and, like all those murdering as we ve met, who are like I'm getting into criminal justice because of this interest. It's like people have to get into these systems and start making change, and because the idea that people make money off of children going to Juvy is insane If I tell they make money, epic, it's a revolving door said. Then they become criminals as adults and the for profit per then just continues to make my. yes, it's a fucking self perpetuating system. I mean honestly. As someone who was a thirteen year old man

future and suburbia, and why I am very fucking aware of my privilege that when I got caught with it, was given the option by the police officer. My mom is given the option to go to rehab, and if I did it, directly to rehab, I had to go into juvy answer that I know that that decision would not have been heard to make had I in the suburbs and white, yet a hundred percent now and then, when I went to rehab it You know underprivileged, cause us. It makes me think of like that. The whole story of sin to is, like her case and all the people that were testifying against her, who best of IFOR. Her array, cheesy, is she's. An under age, sex workers, whose Ben in the system and has a record re, so it's almost like the their justification. Rationale is already there of

oh she's, she started bad and she got were higher. It's like if she stays out. She's gonna continue to do bad things. There incredible for sharing that? Thank you so much yeah. Yes, so important, yeah, yeah. so is it upsetting. As that story is we ve gotta, be a good idea to donate two rights for girl serving to be sending them ten thousand dollars to help them out with their very important work, to try to make a difference with such an credible and overwhelming issue that we have this country awesome. All right. Well, thank you guys so much for listening. We as always prescience shoe Coming around we preach, Each year reshaped you coming around sticking around sickened at our listening to our stories and dumb. Yes, they can offer left. Constant left turns yeah.

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