This week on My Favorite Murder, Karen and Georgia reflect and ruminate on the circus surrounding the life and death of JonBenét Ramsey. Pop culture gone mad.
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cancel the friendship immediately. It's the most obnoxious habit in the world like what happened to you that you need attention sneeze, my mom will happen her. I don't know, but she screamed, namely she listens. We can't talk about her she's, my mom mom, she knows she knows what she bucket ahead and many in my life. It is because its You know you're sneezes coming of your a scream. I do she's a lonely net, someone screaming she'd loves attention. There's! No! You are completely right about that. Like that's a thing, that's that's a connection. Mama levy about Jesus fucking Christ, I mean she has chosen care, a lot of people think of major started, this podcast accidently like skip the beginning again is really about was the beginning that was at the beginning or trying new beginnings there. It's called complaint we're just a hard complain at the top angry complaining.
Then we go into our pre written intro go ahead. George, I hate thinks for turning into my favorite mariner, my name's Georgia, hard stark and mines can kill you and MRS Pre. The thief been practising this for months we wrote it and then we sent it off your professional utter. They send back. Some suggestion, at God I was a great beginning of a pod, cast your welcome for being fucking professional or this peddlers that is so expensive for you as yet. I write that because of this amazing highquality radio, how much money we spend on you don't even say have. We said the words, my very murderer. I think I mentioned. Ok, go, go, go, go, go, go! Go anyway, development just kick rate into corrections corner. Absolutely I have one they had no look. I could I actually I dare blank one that I did I fucked up last week. Why not link so trying to steal my thunder? Why would you do so? This mass shooting in Australia led to crazy strict laws, which is amazing and everyone who message me was like we
that the sandy hook shooting was going to be the same incident array and we think you're a terrible place because it wasn't but tears. Hours here is a positive thing and its great amazing Amre very happy with it. Did you tell them about our saltwater taffy, because we can be a pretty great when we try? Yes, yes, there are people who are who have major problems.
Getting guns to kill children specifically great idea, they don't know problems, they don't have major problems, getting guns. No, I meant they have problems in their lives if they are getting and how and I'm ever it's a very easy for them to get guns, even though they have major problems. It's it's totally fine for them to get guns that gun control. Yes, who doesn't love to hear all about that? Are it what's your corrections corner minors, the simple fact that period is not three miles from Chicago, but three our care and I swear to fucking Christ, every single person in the MID West and stayed in tweeted and told me about it, personal friends, distant strangers, everybody who could possibly say it was let and they were saying it is. If I had said Abraham Lincoln was our first present like a ski, using areas, not three miles away Karen as the
as the other half of the spy glass. Oh yeah, I'm exonerating you man knew him to be a fucking thing for you to apologize for sometimes one I'm reading off my Wikipedia print out. I won't tell me something it isn't there on the charge, that's what I like, ok or so we're in LOS Angeles. If someone said that in San Francisco is three hours from here, would you say no it would you tell them six hours and would it make a different now? You know what I would do. I would withhold the true information and then I would go out there. You go, I would say I'm better than that person secretly. Everyone else is doing or selling this yeah they do there
gloat more set. It also lay in thirty five period. Orders became really mean features. They asshole is weird: they went into done, control, shit man, they just got real and that's what I said I have had it there's a positive link. I desire like that when they live a positive did go. Do you really get my positive you know about, but let's facon pretend you never heard the story before Stephen as an art, it is even then I will get your immortal seared. Both did no longer make. So I was doing something came. Probably then, killing time before I had to go somewhere else. So when I have an hour to kill, I go to jail crew or some
such place where I can get along slave car, ensure real, quick haters. This is not a fucking note. I hate us to do now, we're not sneaking in added honor. We haven't done that yet and we were useless and the right money we're blatant yeah, that's where they haven't paid us enough to snake an ad in on your yet yet. So I, go over to the grove if you are not I've, never visited LOS Angeles are not from around here. The grove is like they re hours away from us in three hours, from the heart of LOS Angeles is a mall that, where they basically try, didn't make it if there is a small town where everyone was obsessed with shopping rats with the grove, it looks like the train or a trolley or some gardens. So now I go into J crew.
Try to get myself a shirt and the guy the first guided says: how are you or do you want me anyhow, but I'm like now leave me LE and then he asked me again a little bit later and unlike does he think, I'm a shoplifter. I've worked retail with this year, patrolling me and then finally, he came up and Ngos, but her name, and I go Karen and guess what your last name and I go. What are you doing? Never tell them your last name and then, where are you from the park ass, my mother and brutality, and then he laughed? his mind. I am lavish and he told me this is a thing that got me so look we're having some nice success with this part gaseous, very, very exciting, marriage quite bewildering, and it's just like a weird. It's weird, but I didn't think we're to the level of people recognising us from upon cast out the grove. Now, that's that's! The grove is like
the biggest it's like the pleasant tourists. Go there. Yes, it's a big Mario Schoeffer Mary up back in love has does the schaffner it's a high and recognition spot. Definitely so tray. Who is the young man who is talking to try? You think they'll is Mary now for yes, I do believe me was that the J crew of the Grove Leases Shore Park ass, one they shut down at night, and I hold down the store of you, so they he couldn't believe that no one that he closes with was there to see. You think that they all think he's lying, and now this is happening, it will girl. We took a pitcher to approve and then someone wrote to the twitter page and said I can't believe I wasn't on shift one try. My fair murder and the whole thing was justice super Q. He was so happy it just so
wonderful, you devolved, mulatto, excited and that we are those the curious thing. Stephen is one point. He was just asking these questions and stuff, and then one party goes where's. Georgia right now, there's, like I honestly, don't know so. Q arrangement we're gonna, do a personal appearance, we're going to surprise drop in. Oh it, a J crew, close closing shift drop in at the girl yeah right, now and then everyone comes around in the dark there. I'm gonna go in there shoplift and see. If anyone says a word in my favor, you know they were so deal with that level. That is in passing it on this level of fame that were now allow Stephen you're gonna, get recognise next now me so now, I'm waiting for someone to yell to me like a transaction or like a thing and then for somebody else, stay sexy
That would be that's. My dream is that someone doesn't say they recognize me doesn't say: listen Lamar Gas, but when I'm leaving action are transaction or whatever the fuck a parking lot they yelled at me. They do a shout after our fuckin scream of chalk melt tab, mellings dont get murder. Will you screams knees at them at the top of your line? The top of my nasal passages. You know it's funny, though, like my friend Alison Aghast, he who I work where love love should not have a great s. Work with her and I walked into our writers from the other day and there's, like you, know, nine people in their whatever and I was a senior part gas and I got all in barrier like shut her down. Basically, I later had to go side perceived link early, I was leg. Is it's that thing or like its super exciting and I dont want to overly be like? Let's talk about it for a five minute, NEA Cause, I'm
of course, I'm so judgment of others that I'm positive I'm going to get that judgment. I keep obey my parents or then do it, and I can be like it's a great, isn't it no longer right? Oh, I got my sister started listening array. This is a miracle of all. Miracles is my sister Laura's. Now a listener and constantly sing me things when to do things we need to say stuff. We need to talk about us about our sister coroner yeah how'd. You asked the elder sisters are. We should for she had some very interesting observations about the John beneath special, hey speaking of not to secular corner you right into what we're doing. But let's take let's take a casual super casual, quick break. Did you just? Let me out
you look at your middle finger, while you're taking entering a very subtle, may actually flip people off. Like those words, I barely move. My it's just rapporteur inside fingers. I just very sleigh why my middle finger at its more feminine- I just remember into an elementary school because everything that scrutinised and everything you did was stupid to everyone. Yes, I like the way you flip people off was made fun of yes, so I just got really go to doing it correctly. You so you do the one word to shorter fingers endemic. Don't pull your finger at the hello, my fingers, employer affairs, that is the proper fuck you oh
instead of this. He I don't know what that is. California looks like a kilo, bird or services nor cow fuck. You are you gonna, leave your surrounding fingers there. I like they're, like between the first and second nickel, is so visual that we should not talk lengthened events insanity. Why don't you take a casual, could break and will teach each other are middle fingers, ok and then we'll come back on you guys ready for Jean Monet I'll dominated the time, and I am beneath time everybody else to how many There needs to be a code word for when we're not actually going to take it like, as we always say that static. That's not do this has taken out there like. When do we mean it and when weed, I owe you like almost like a safety call that during sex like a safe word, because saving gets confused and he goes to write something another, not just getting live it up, and I take it as a challenge. Yeah, that's right! New human is the we leave this olive to Stephen, he beautifully edits.
You tell your relative. He does her delight. The whole thing is this kind of insane and enzymes are called theatre him. He just whatever he says, goes right now, I'm in the basement. I have no basement smell like down and back, let's make jokes and stuff and then get into something royal fucked up. Well, people have been ten. You only tweeting us since leg the ads for the job in a special started ass. Saying can't wait for it to hear what you guys say about all this meat who then, when I went to tee at the other night there were three choices. Some question. Yes, do you still have Tito, or do you just call it that I call it that it's my that's? My verb of that cannot deviate. Bearing is stupid and I am with the tv or in a just and announce how still think if I had the actual brand name, tv broadcasting, as you must now again
no one's pangs shit, any of this shit for fuck the shepherd back, if they want to give us back for shit than making market, they can email. Aren't this data, but what's seyffert screen names just kidding so yes, I'm so wit. There's you had multiple John. There were three choices and then I was like I don't know when I met with that kind of life challenge which is choose which the correct made for tv doc. You series about John beneath murders, user owned dominate. I later totally turn the channel, unlike a look father browns on just about something. So oh I forgot to talk about how obsessed I am with our new. I want your dna inside me actor who rami rum,
the Roman. You that's what I was going to know. I will soon that's. Why start talking Carolyn get right, I'm so into Rama Manual he's so dizzy honours its Buckingham. They have been watching Mr Emmi Malik Remy Magical talk about an ex time. Ok, but I've been upset speaking of things I just don't want to deal with and then so I watch something is myth, my Mister Roby, oh yeah, it's that's a great shout Sorry, I feel for designating the second memory of Germany about just now, Taking it seriously, look there's no first of all, if we are were not the first because watching these specials. For me, one of the overarching feelings was this is discussing it's disgusting because they would show these pictures of her that do that intentionally. Do not look like a six year olds Visa, where you just go. What the thing
was surprised that they didn't talk about in at least two CBS one where I watched this morning on CBS dot com streaming had to join pay. Five. Ninety nine free free membership. Let again there are not paying us anything as you can tell me that I can have a pay. I had to pay money, an I'm mad because I did it going. I just need to get this taking care of all cancers layer, I'm not going to know your nine five months. I will have paid them like fifty dollar, totally for never watching nursery, paying you to talk about them. Cocky I've become so ok, when I owe joked that it was a choose european venture. I why that is actually completely correct, because I try to watch a couple of them and every single one of them is so clearly with agenda, yes, pregnant with agenda, yes and some of them while- and I won't say who- and why won't show the photos of her as a normal child, great because yeah
that doesn't serve what they're there near media message of what they're talking about. There's a video of her that that to me- and I wrote in the spring, I wrote that leg for EL dot com and I plug it as I just suddenly felt awkward about you. It get used to it, I'm not plugging and understood how fucking happy I am, and I met cry from like how good it feels because I started online journal rating. Let's I'm gonna be honest and I didn't graduate community college and you wrote to amazing articles year, allow com that were so readable and so wonderful here, their honour twitter feed. If you need to find them, there are great red caring. Let means so much coming for me because I'm turning credible writer, my friend, and that means a lot to me and my sister said, the same thing and she's a teacher who kind of can't spell that means me, no life is listening, I'm in a distant like they would like to thank the editors of L for making me look like. I know how to make sure your posture, VS is spoke of it. I didn't they may
now it anyways in it I was like everyone stop and go look at photos of her as a normal kit. Yes, because it's a different fucking story and one there's this video of her that they show in slow motion of her mom, it's her as a little kid. It's like a home video, her Mamma scratching the top of her head and she nestles her head and her moms lag is seen ass now and it's just so sweets and human and reminds me of me and my mom: is it kid and it's it's the site, goofy sweet little girl his mommy is is I'm putting her and then doing this thing she pilot as allow just scratch her hair. You know this thing very maternal, very comforting thing. Now there was this before or after Patsy had died, her hair blonde No, I didn't know. I saw that that it was died.
I don't know why and there, when the friend in a serious one with a friend talks about seeing Germany for the first time with died, blonde hair and Patsy me like no, it just lying about lied about it, but then I thought issues murdered one. She was six. She must have how that blonde hair for at least a couple months, if not a year before, which means someone died a five year olds, hair blonde bleach, I mean bleaching. Your hair is disgusting of you ever Hydro died. Women know it's like a very gross intense chemical process on a five year old, that's crazy, just but I dont, but in the Patrick Pad pageantry circuit. I don T,
that weird, which she was sure she was in me. Yes, I should have word that's my that was. My point is no one talks about that. The pageantry circuit is basically a strange we're commercial for pedophiles and there's no there's no reason. You should have a six year old girl, dressed like any Lana Heiress or Harris. There's no there's no way. We should be seeing a little girl basically cause playing an adult, but I ok, here's my thing with Germany remsen the whole case is that I will argue the opposite of anything. That's argued yes because their such a huge argument, because its there's never gonna, be any conclusion and every single piece of evidence- and I wrote some of them down- has an argument for the other
right that's what I kind of love about. This is because I really don't like being like. This is my opinion, and here is the argument. Why, and I won't listen to you and your opinion, it's like I'm not doing not. You know I mean like any debate that people have read know exactly when when people absolutely decide how they feel right and won't come off of it. No, I totally. I agree that in every other way, except for it and nerves me how normalized, the patent system is, where its
only little girl, that's the thing is that it is normally used for certain people, including Patsy Ramsay, who was a passion queen and they are from the south. Yes, true soak, it wasn't that weird to her wasn't like she was in her mind, abusing this girl and dying her hair. It was like, I dont think its necessarily abuse. I just think it's a it. Your pudding. She had on a child a little girl long before she needs to be dealing with the legally agree with our I just don't. It's just like when people present not you won. It is presented that there are there. Proof that this is why these, why she was murdered by the parents and how fucked up these things were. I just don't think they got aigrettes. No, no, I'm not our and arguing that the pageants prove they need it. I am arguing that the the
dying. A six year olds hair shows very bad decision, making skills ends and just a weird, but these are people that, like I also didn't know they had two of their own planes. I didn't know they are the level of risk that they are. If you're arguing that dying a four year olds, hair blind is, proof said this parent doesn't have the best the child's best interests. And mine, and therefore It makes sense why she would have been part of them, maybe the murder of the cover up. I then I agree with the idea that that makes sense to me yet managed to get into this yeah we're hell. You were starter, restarting ceiling in hit playing. Can you delete man, I mean ok, the sea bs thing, and here and one of the rules on our Facebook group is don't talk. Shit about other parka such and hosts of the sea. Bs show have
a true crime podcast. Oh, I didn't know. I yeah Stephen running. I lit up if you know why I just think I them alive, and I think they had the best interests I think they're intact and integrity based people. I just think that at the moment you are clearly going for a certain, what's thought agenda. Like you can like the moment, I saw that John Ramsay was being interviewed for one of the documentaries I was like. I was out, because he wouldn't agree to do it unless the agenda was near. Yes, that's right. So what did you think about Burke Ramses Interview with I didn't want it. I watch clauses or failure. Dialogue should either, but she said He was smiling the allotted it. Yes, I think that Burg Ramsay, my beyond the spectrum. I thought too. I don't think it's fair too
I don't think I'm ailing is fairies, isn't a sign of any no that's nerves, yeah here, The thing is, if you have been around tv or Don t me, I've watched a lot of people act, super where'd on tv aspect,
I dont know was that that whole thing predates like there was no audience when he was talking to Doktor Phil no, ought Anthea Z, then I think I said this before, but the reason I didn't watches because I have a friend whose producer on it and you like nothing, came of it. They didn't know anything so there's like oh, it's boring, but then a bunch people started tweeting at us of like this behaviour in all these different stuff. It was definitely weird behavior, but I don't think it is indicative of someone who is guilty or innocent or you can read anything out of it is. It was weird for personal has two planes. I mainly his opponents in the outer world literally never done an interview before in his life. No Anne and probably never had to really be in the world in a real way in life, and so I think the reason this whole interview happiness, because he they somehow knew that the CBS documentary was coming out. That kind of pointed towards him. This is like a quick feckless. Let's get this out before it comes out so
Maybe they might want to do it.
No way did he wanted to his freaks out on my God there so much talk about, but he also you know their he's already suing CBS. Is he really that's what that's? What someone told me at work today, as we are all talking about eyes morning up yet and cause I said ever was talking about? Why possibly would they have reduced it from three or four of the EU, and I was saying it could have been a thing where they let them do it, but they said cause they cause. I'm obsessed, of course, with the pageant part and the and any kind of the enemy it felt like any. They just dismiss any any kind of sexual molestation road enjoying they just dismissed out of hand, which seems very unlikely to me. I wrote that in the end are to call that it's like, I am ripping you off from the Ark community. Languages is minded eminency for what's a garland someone copies Russia just copying, the city will make me without smarter and ok. Here's this outcome for the button. I know you're button else here says that they liked from that. I didn't know about from
the CBS show. I really love it. I love handwriting and linguistic analysis, something it's fucking fascinated. The fact is that someone pointed out that no one would ever right that they were small foreign faction. Yes, you make yourselves, seem bigger you don't seem like you're, a small little group of people, yes very interesting and also known cause themselves, foreign,
rate exactly and if you are a band getting together right now and you dont namer smells self smaller infection, you're fucking, eighty on Maria yeah, punk rockers, that together, I know that for it there is like all those things about the phrasing and the like and as sorry, if I'm jumping on this hour, I was freaking out when they got to the part where the ransom letter quotes speak no bearing rarity Harry. I just like you. How is so if, if this is passing and John they're covering up, you know the one theory that they were really rubbing in your face and the city s one. If that was true, then? really think that there's so much smarter than everybody. Yes, that they can add in
lines from the movie speed and have nobody catch. Are they actually do really? Quick Stephen was like broadest honor me, to show me a thing that I asked him and I completely forgot what I'd ask themselves like what does he? I know what I'm ok, the pod cast, that the host of the severe shall do is real crime of profile, which I listen to its great podcast Olga. Yes, lets. You know, let's start me ready to start life some? What does your theory overall, like what's your favorite theory? Oh, I think that I think it was Burke. Ok, How do we think? I think, Burke, got angry ended I don't think she meant to do it now I don't know. I don't think,
I think he wanted to hurt her. I think that, but a lot of stuff that they name that was like. Oh you know, God forbid- that he do this or that is also a little kids. Do brotherly sisters, especially, are really mean and vicious will each other. So, like a lot of stuff, didn't freak mouths. It's like yeah yeah, you hit. You hit your brother or sister with a piece of train track or whatever my sister and I used to go before getting getting into fights, where you're being beaten with remote control and shit, look recycle punished in the stomach was. I was like five by my sister yet like that it's a standard fan. Is you as a kid? You don't know how strong you are. You don't know how much it hurts you and your mom, Hungary and you have no parental supervision. I wrote an article that might let our friend cat sullen her brother bears her child the teeth mar scar on his body because they were so angry that they they didn't. You just get angry people, but and also its the thing of
if he did that any with super angry, and it does make sense that she's the little princess it gets all of the moms attention and he was older of indifferent if he was younger but he's older. So he was used to having all of her attention not got kind of redirected, which is very painful and awful if he already was having a little bit of like developmental or if they're, just some issue with again a little slower is a little bit emotionally off. Whatever it area, which is in which a lot of things I read say he was a little bit of a weird could well yeah. I mean I grew up with a weird kid. I understand that there weird. Yes, that is, I mean they're. Here's the thing my sister said she texted, me and said
thing with their faces is really bad. That's usually a sign of sexual molestation. Now the wedding, the bad thing, Social, Germany, what her bed regularly they said Burke might have to that's me as hard, because I want my bed layering. I should hide a do. I suck my thumb until egg cell
and grain. I was never molested right, so you can just say that definitively now, which the shit thing shit is a much bigger deal, because even when you're a little you don't it's not natural to like it was as if they were saying- and I dont know any more than what they presented on that area. But it was as if they were saying he like would shit on her stuff or you would like wipes like shit places, and my sister has been a grammar school teacher for over twenty years, as masters degree in like in developmental education or whatever, I'm not exactly sure, but we make things post fixer degree, but essentially this is what she does and deals with kids a lot that it going through. This ensures just like that's bad. That's that's the worst thing she heard and the whole thing was a kid is like got his hands and shit and is not a baby. Well, she had
this is something they revealed in the sea. The asking is that she had a great criticized shit. In her bad rate, sounds painful and fucked up an end, not not normal manner. No like he was collecting at or know that she just saved the halving the garter that she would was so uncontrolled going to the bathroom that she waited until she was in bed. Oh, I thought I thought he put it there from what, because they said the maid found it, and I was thinking that he was like trying to wreck her shit because the others to make her look like a gross. Yes, can I say that, like a kindness, I feel bad for Burke and the same thing. It's very bad, and I read something- and I I made everyone on our Facebook group and at the send us their theories and send us what they found. That was interesting in their thoughts and everything in one of them was that Burke ACT. He doesn't even know that heat I know that he cause.
Blow, he might have done it and they were like go too bad. He doesn't remember it. He, It may be somewhere deep down does, but he doesn't know that he put that holding an ax. I feel bad for this kid who clearly has some think. He knows something, though, because remember that interview, he asked with a hop- and he won't say that cop I know what's in the bowl- and he just won't say it like- I was in, he goes that also in the sea bs argument, or they show clips, which is like? I could washes four hours of of Burke being interviewed by a psychologist or social worker post rag, ruining as a kid, yet the only time, male members, two times they let him be questioned and in it the other talking and actually it's amazing. They show him a photo of this, that the table a crime scene table which has a ball of pineapple out with Burke's fingerprints on it and in Germany stomach
after she diet as an undigested Pisa, pineapple Ray, and so they should the less social here. The psychologist shows Burke, I thought of the pineapple ones has. What is this shows while the panel- and he says I don't know it- looks like cereal or something and he says well what could that be, and then Burgos, oh, MIKE. He knows not to say yes, that's where, but it's like you, know a little kid King haze outsmarting somewhere and theirs as we're watching from this camera overhead. He also isn't a very weird physical position in that chair, his weary, with physically he's very and seeing a weird way he's that he gets down on all fours when he's looking at that picture- and I understand it's like a kids way like almost like childs pose yeah, but to me in that situation,
gave me the creeps lay I was just weird he was he was. He was very stilted in his voice, but he looked incredibly comfortable. He was almost like l, who has shown it was weird. How do we owe K so, like my theory,. In my mind, the mastermind of this whole fucking entire thing, which is that Burke unknowingly hit her over the head or through flashlight. Through someone mentioned. Maybe you didn't actually like her maybe he's through this flashlight. Her here and there happened in. It was staged. In my mind, the masterminded, the whole thing is not Patsy, who is bringing who is just being thrown on the bus fucking completely. In this whole thing, it's someone who still alive, and so I'm scared. It's John Rams its generosity. I really think John are empty as the fucking entire mastermind, because- and another thing I was thinking to- is that, like their interviews, post
after what happened, are creepy and fucking. Weird has seen an interview yeah like all over their legs. Let them calling the press to given interviewing you mention it before that that when someone asked to Pats Patsy is clearly I'm fuckin volume. Yes she's on so many petya, they ask her. Do you think it was an outside intruder and she shaking her head? No, with her eyes closed and the minute China says. Yes, she starts to not yes, yes, she goes and is where circle and then tries to lake it. But she also does her she's doing a lot of like a long blinking yet, and it's almost like she just doesn't want to. She just wants to disappear. Here's what I think! Ok, I doubling Patsy wrote the note. The ransom letter sent a fuckin. No, no, it's a four page Lang, Burke, accidently header. I think they conspired to cover it up. Maybe with with John being the mastermind ray, I think
took her downstairs. Germany's body downstairs to you know, make it staged as it kidnapping, and I dont think Patsy realized. The extent of how he covered it up right, I think she, she thought he had put a pillow over her face. She thought she would be suffocated, but when Patsy found out the extent, of what he did to her body. I think and she and she still have to go with it, yeah I think that's why she was so freaked out by it. I don't think she was lying horrible tonight I mean yes and that's a horrible idea.
Like just that you would be put an opposition as a mother here, the one that gives you more comfort, because it's so much less tragic and its based on that nine on one dispatcher, who only was under a gag order for years and never talk to anybody, know what I wanted to energy. You heard but here's the thing is: where d me, no one ever try to interview her and she was an under under a gag order, so when it was the gag what are lifted that she can be talking on that only Mary was, I think she was just like clearly knowing when foreign, I think, once they exonerated
The Ramsay Ramses, it was just gone well. What was interesting to me. She said that that moment were Patsy thought shown up the follow kind, isn't that either that perhaps he makes his name on call which I didn't was I of course snippets here now and I listened to it. It's horrifying will and especially because it's it's bad acting I from that alone. If you just made me guess off, then I'm a monk I'd say there there complicit in some way, but that that Patsy thinks she hangs the phone up. Then there are recording what
happening in their kitchen and the non one operator is on the line listening and trying to listen. I think we'll just the one thing that that nine one operator said was her tone once she was like so hysterical and get someone here, get some early age or were you hang up the phone right when your child is missing and that's your lifeline hang at the phone is crazy and then be her vocal tone changes immediately to the point where that's what gave that now and dispatcher the creeps, because in because she's hysterical, she's freaking out she's, not answering Ireland dispatchers questions the minute. She says who are you it clearly says. I'm she's clearly states her name everything, I'm the mother and clearly gives an answer. Yes, suddenly the hysteria isn't so out of control and its true that I like,
This must be a stocking manner or they said you don't hang up on a nine on one car. No, no wonder! No one hangs up it's your lifeline. That was the coolest part. I mean I understand look. This is just like Jack, the ripper, where there so many experts. Now we and their so many so many theories that had just out of control network and if I don't think I'll ever be so I don't know unless there some something gets dug up literally or Ino, some hidden thing. I do here, what they I didn't hear at the end of the day, no one called the hang up what is purported to be said by who buy. One of the family. I believe the nine one operator when she says I heard I thought I heard Patsy say I cod a name. I called the police. Now it yeah, that's out, there are tons war believable to me than when they see when they did the whole gamut of slowing down, and I am one call unsigned down you're hurt in the background and whose voices his you here you want to hear. Yes,
that's very true, and also that part was ludicrous because well it was just tv. I mean an answer by Rosa scenario and other really Turnus stretches out. I bet you when they cut that other stuff and the other episodes had to go back and like Phil Tyres. Something is that was so ludicrous. First of all, every sound editor in the world would watch the unjust be like the aims. Are the people I hate working? I hope you don't have to tell me that we need to go back and reduce the noise, because clearly that until you can hear what people are saying, we have to keep on trying to clarify the click, the link that idea that they were sitting next to that man going bring this down either word as idea here that your eyes, he knows how to use the machine and the moment someone tells you what their hearing you here too. Of course, even if it's not there, and especially with something like this, where it's like a your hearing, Patsy Ramsay Horse, your hearing, John Ramses, worse, yeah, but but at the same time the what their arguing by hearing
programmes whose voice at the end of that is that he was in bed, and I have a lot of problems with idea that he was in bed to the whole time, because a why, when you just send out that your child is a kidnapping gone, would you let your other child be somewhere else. He would grab the other child and make sure there by your fucking side, not that I am first thing you would do if first thing you it s, why didn't he get out of bed when he heard his mom flipping the fuck out to see what was going on? What was wrong when he said in his interviews as Israel? Deep sleep are all the time always sees using words like I'm. Always I never hear anything. I'm always a deeper, ok, prepped, yet so that's. Why would they lie about that?
because they're, like as the whole thing is bullshit entering error. That kind of thing we're like then, I'm on one dispatcher heard things that, even if she didn't hear exact words like she was talking about the local tone changed. He knows that Patsy thought the phone was hung up and suddenly the the like act was dropped and that's what she was hearing, maybe she at the words wrong or right. We don't know but like that in another Also when goes. What did you find right that? which you can hear pretty clearly like it's such a weird little voice like He'S- and you don't hear it had- listened sound scared. Now he doesn't sound upset. He sounds like someone that's going through that with not a lot of worry and ok. So what about ok? Why would say that they all has something to do with it? She wrote the nine one one I mean the ransom letter. Why would they call nine, when one immediately without getting rid of the body.
In the morning like why wouldn't name why wouldn't you have taken the body out and and dispose of it, I mean who the fuck now, because I think it's because it still their daughter so they're not gonna, leave their daughter at a garbage. Dump they're not gonna, stick her in a dumpster or hide her under a log of some help in Romania, Russia per area they didn't, I don't think they did, that the. If they didn't talk about them in thing, but I dont why? Why would he do that? But it was, but there from what I can t have. A problem with this case shows that there are so many things. I've heard about, for example, that there was a book tat. There was a dictionary in someone's steady turned to the word. Incest only just have ever seen. That is an inner forums of people writing about the key.
I've, never seen that in an actual. In o crime scene right up there, that sounds like something a seventh grade girl would say, there's so much shit. There is a big Then, on the daddy eyes there was so much shit. There is so much shit that I'm like war. I heard this thing was and they found, but it's not in the autopsy report. So why would it Jesus like Weird Gaza, because people start talking us up like this and suddenly it takes on a life of its own. But here's the thing I thought when they were going over those crimes. The crime scene footage who the fuck see
that their son killed their daughter with by hitting on ahead with a flashlight, takes a flashlight sticks it on the kitchen counter and leaves it there. That's the thing that you would dump and get rid of, and that's the thing that baffled I kept saying is this picture from earlier, where they didn't know for a fact they own the flashlight button up here, but ok, I'm I'm an immediately argue the other way, because I can- and I like it- yes you're fucking freaking out, you had a start. A ransom note twice three times because you're freaking out, you don't think to move this.
PS. I just don't think you think everything's through and there's no drawn on it as they showed by having this fuckin was fucked up kid in the world had got landing him with pigskin and a wig. All of that was like. All of that is a shame on you, CBS out my that was not necessary. It was shook him every be. He looked like a little child actor, but his eyes were a bit wild. The whole thing of that was grow honestly. That hotel my thoughts, so bad for the hosts, because I was IQ, can tell that the producer was like you have to fucking. Do that? Yes, and both a host for like I'm I'm a fucking journalists, gonna fuck em, like naturally, I enjoy, as it were, and new need. This clip. The lighter version of that is the cop that volunteer to get teased twice in which the kind I have done it as six
a cop who is a hunt. Two hundred pounds is being taken to show minor, unlike for John Beneath, which is like sorry. None of this equates this it at that and when they were A parking lot and the house we're gonna go speak to the Ramses that couldn't be recorded and there was a whole like five minutes of that, of them waiting around the parking lot for the house to come back and talk about an unnecessary, the whole thing was unnecessary. It was they were. I think they were trying to be verity, but it was also there like. So we ve got this insane interview that we ve been waiting for, but the guys like now in camera, but I'll tell you what I know used
recording, so they need to they needed the. What do you call it like? They need the authenticity of the fact that they got this huge get as illegitimate like this is legitimate because were actually speaking to them. It also shows to me, as a personal, worked and tv for a long time the runnin gun style, where you have to make up solutions on on the fly, and if you are thinking it would be called organ tv just go and look at Eddie Schmidt, the producer of the show standing in the Safeway Parking watching all the beautiful suvs drive away, while he's dancer with cameraman for four hours while awaiting yet they they ate a bunch of safely done. It's just kicked it waiting to find out what happened, because that's what it's really lie, and you know it in ok, here's a fucking thing. Maybe they did talk to the fucking whites on camera and the whites said the same thing. They always say Mary Fuckin Reno
well at point in, and it wasn't as interesting, and so they say, let's pretend like they wouldn't speak to us. Yes, sir, I think will be because the thing that I was shocked by another piece of information was that fleet White wrote an open letter telling John Ramsay. You need to cooperate with the police. Heartily, that's crazy. They were the whites came over them the morning of the murder. They were the feminist furs, people val after the phoney. I own car and Fleet White was with John Ramsay when he found Germany's by wonder of those two people feel used as fuck. While they were here, they were because that's another thing I Georgia is that's a very common thing. Invite someone I witness you finding the body. You don't find the body alone in I've done it yeah you bring people and to witness that was fucking fascinating. Yes, it's
There's a lot of lake. If you choose to look at it through this one angle, rights which I think we should do the opposite a minute to, I think we should look at it from an intruder angle, but in that way a man who has two planes. First of all, sidebar. People for millionaires.
A millionaires house is kind of a shitty ass like there was. It was clearly pre the declared trend of the mid two thousand, because there were some shit everywhere. It was like there was like fake autumn leaves that were plastic in a drawer that was hanging down topos light. I kissed shelving system. It was like what sorry you're rich. What is this house and when they went to like Open Germany's bedroom door, there all those hand marks on the outside. Did you see that link linger March or, like kids, grabbing the door? It was like there. It was weird to me, and this whole time when they say her body was found in the wine cellar here, I'm picturing a wine, so that was the most depressing creepy room, I've ever since it was a cement room where they through old shit and may be kept. Some, why? I don't know but like it the whole thing was there is a lot of cognitive dissonance. Can I tell you lemon? They were doing the like walk through of it. I was the king. I watch a shitload of HIV in the whole time I was like. Will you take down this? Why yet opened? The basement recently could be like. I met a man cave and have an open concepts thing in this spiral, staircase associated an unnecessarily the whole time. I was like thinking of the property brothers being like you. Take this back in law. This spiral staircase. It looks like something that would be in my home town in a house. It was left over from nineteen sixty five like it is so weird and tacky handling. If you ve ever gone down, one of those metals spiral staircase in a house of soap, is it going to die they're gonna tunnel fucking face forward other the bar. That's on the next viral is so weird that hope our. But I guess my point actually was super rich people like that that are kind of their there, the people they don't even fly first class. They don't
by commercial, is where they get their own firefly, that playing their private plain rich. These are people who think they can get away with whatever, because they already are up above the fray they're, not anywhere near Judy and Johnny Lunch crises that she was twenty one years old when they got married and had already had a whole family, he was what then I think he was sixteen years older than her them. Yes, he was like in this matter. Eight thirty twenty one year old girl that he married yet. I mean we ve met twenty one year olds. Are you ready yet even at seems. I'm common these days, like one, is a bit of a throw backs. So he marries this Trophy wise a trophy daughter. Man another place, son, their asses terror. I like that,
I was told that seventy six percent of the ransom no was bullshit. Erroneous yeah tell my all you need. Was these four lines? They are selling they kept saying the phrase their salary or selling, and that there was, Their didn't need to be blood from the blood of the ham, even though they showed in the worst possible. That was interesting, also So you You see this ransom, no letter it says, don't call the fucking cops or will be head your daughter, multiple times. Yes, first thing they do is call the cops. Yes, why is that? Even if- because they wrote the letter and the outside world and even if the latter wasn't even if they didn't do it and not the letter was found they still made. So many mistakes and and it was still a fake ransom. No, no matter what should so hard about is no matter what it was. A fake ransom. Yes,
a hundred percent? So it's hard to be like who wrote this ransom now you can connect, but it was a fake ransom notes of the parents at it. Now that the rents vows fake, no matter what? Yes, there's, no small foreign faction no kidding, he was already a good head. Yes in the basement gray, so any in you clearly didn't bring this. If the ransom known have been brought in
and then she was found dead, it would have been like. Oh, they meant to kidnap Herman. Didn't it didn't happen, great also, the point they made very early, and that is like to me the proof of almost everything. Is you don't kidnap a sexual girl out of millionaires house and ask for a hundred thousand dollars? It's insane dumbest fucking part of it words like you, have a living child, its millions. You asked for millions, and you know this person is a millionaire. They talk about him, they tear them as if they know I'm. So personally, when I play a couple things in it, they say that that get it out of your account. So they know that that's how much it, but he has at least then his account not get the fucking money. No matter what you can do, the thing is get a big enough quote attache case who gives a shit what size bag you know, get a brown paper bag yet on it to tell this person that get this much money period. Yes! Well, that's yeah! That's clearly someone just having thinking way too hard about this tenth and also believing their own shit. Like that's a thing were instead of having MC this self consciousness. Togo is this believable when I was just like sit down and have creative writing session
and saying get some rest here. This is gonna, be complicated. It's like she. Ok, let's just say it was Patsy writing. This thing she sat down and it was ass if I started out, but he might have been tat, he could have indicating that some, your handwriting, she was a journalist major too. So she knows how to write. Yes, Congo answer normal, but it is just that idea. Like you get started, you're already got the adrenaline running some insane shit you're in a surreal place anyway, then you just kind of going for words that you're, quoting speed, You know like yours unless you die the girl s eyes and ears, here's what people who have seen too many movies about it. Think that our ransom The latter is written. What about just chemist?
to the period where they interviewed. The gardener talked about Patsy Ramsay coming out about the OJ verdict. That part I was like. I don't care what else happens in this thing? The idea that there is a first pertinent person I witness talking about Patsy ramses- were reaction to OJ, which is that you can get away with murder in America, yes, but there is also just it was that then it was always the general content mash up of where this is like pop culture gone mad. You ve right now that it's interesting how much the OJ the Simpsons I had to do with the smart like how much they were affected by China, and you know I was reading some of the movie quotes and have similar they were, and there are also people online where fuckin, brilliant, interesting people who say here's one, this movie per showed and bolder
mere the date of her more like an one night before one of the one of the movies was played on tv. Oh, my god, you know no member, twenty. Ninth, this movie, it was played on tv in boulder for alien, really fucking interesting. That's the shit like that really is it's the way of the future. Its people arm chair, detective WEBS latest man we're going to solve the big star totally because that's the kind of stuff that like if cops and all those cops sent, talk like that one investigator that that quit, because even is disgusting, love seeing him young and then seeing him into reality was hot. So super Pegana. He was hot and also just his like burning sense of justice. Cilicia, all my guy. Anyone like what I wonder when here and
and it's a thing of like, will he quit so so then nothing goes forward, but then it's like yeah but or he stays Ngos insane or as the fall or its rise or hates himself for the rest of his life. Has he didn't do the right? He didn't do. Anything wrong quitting sometimes, is like the only way you can show how passionate you are about something rate as a state. It's a real political entity in it and if he was told this has become a political situation than he asked to be political till you used to play on the down the playing field, well that them saying that everyone indict every one voted to indict the Ramses. As for having some hand in yeah, I'm going dying and the fuckin Police chief, just being like
Oh thanks it giving a news conference that they're not doing now one of the very first last podcast on the left episodes I listen to on your recommendation as their John. The banana regime is in two parts of it yet laugh at me. As someone has a two part, Germany Ramsay episode that agree stocking incredible so thoroughly recertified. So awesome, but one of the sue me most ass. Any parts was them talking about how John Ramsay is a millionaire because he's got this computer programming company or some computer something company, but that they don't really know what it does. It has a government contract, I believe they said Anne He makes millions of dollars year, but they can't really figure out what he D. We gotta ask Mr Robot neither can I buy a robot gotta, shut him down lemon gotta, go to raw Roma manual and be like what the fuck are you doing later, as happens very during winter, but I
that was at thy love that theory, because I love there. There is some bigger thing at work. Although shirt reaping the district attorney of bolder, underneath John Ramses Thumb, why does he have that much power aside from just money? There's got evoldo since I mean this is so down. But since watching Mr Robot hacking emails seems like a very easy thing to do yet: hacking, fucking, internet searches, you have some shit on someone and I was so you think he did that to them. They just was baby. Maybe they have some shit on the fuckin chief of police. A sure emails. I mean, let's go to the fuckin obvious child pornography rate. Thank you and he knows about it before. Even the police would now sure. That incite fascinating? I liked to well. They jumped
eight two Patsy as an M k, Ultra robot yeah. I just that. Why wrote I Let's go back to my alarm, to collect bucket again I wrote in it, but how beautiful would it be if it was M K, Altera or if it was Damn vivendi. That looks at the moment. I said MBA ultra statements about inserted barking and it's like the Mp Ultra governments tarnish energy hands. We're talking about a steering. You're fired, see that you're, not stealing your rehired at a higher rate. How this year, in yeah I will limit if there were that simple, them hand interestin ingesting, not our fault, but the reality is, like parents kill their children
more than strangers, killer children or kill people's chill and using its always from the family. That's it that's the first place. They look for reason it's unusual and inside job and its also the darkest choice. So it's the biggest bummer that most people don't want to look at how I know, because that's only by its horrible yeah, I think I mean go it's hard to find them. Actually, I was looking for them today, but the initial press interviews with John Ramsay, which you can see in the CBS Stock are cold and creepy yeah he's a real creeper. I dont think that that necessarily like, as people have said about many people in this series lake. I think we're just learning now how people grieve at what they look like when their under pressure and all the stuff. You know that I agree with that are completely This is fucking goodbye. Let's move on, yes it! it's very
oh telling, once you re, look at it and like under aside from thinking exactly who did exactly what the situation was. I just know that lake My father, like you're talking about someone who just died, they? U you! Even if you are a man and a strong man you're in a war you, whatever your beer child, you would get choked up you just that's your took. The words are coming on your mouth and your listening to them. If you have a total disconnect, then you're than you gave a great press conference- and I say I mean what's important- a personal part of this because people- I love that, but when I was like thirteen and on drugs and like a really bad cave and one night, I just didn't, come home and my sister a drop me off somewhere knives, worn out with my fuckin punk Rock Rennes, and my pay
call the police and were freaking out, and my brother layer said to me like the next like finally came home and I stood on drugs on, I was like any other, My daddy said I heard dad in the other room weeping keeping and my dance like they re and I fuckin at that was one of the things that maybe stop doing drugs yeah, so thought of my dad weeping at me just not being home right. So the fact that she is just I know we all react differently. Yes, but the reaction? His fucking demeanor is called cold. Its incredibly does all his arm round his wife, whose crying know there's a real lake. He has a real, be of a bank manager vehicles, a ham where he's letting you know your house is getting foreclose yarn, and I and I dont have I
shut myself off from other people's emotions. For so long that I just don't care. Also like he's in business mode were places an emergency. All live like emergency cord got pulled, and now that's the Moody's enemies completely. Like carp, compartmentalized, all olive everything, a mere the emergency garage got pulled. Oh, do that thing is such a bummer. I think he was in the Navy He worked for a small foreign faction in the Philippines as a true and there s each ye see something to do with a navy.
In closing its objective three is, is signing, goes away. Worthing, assigning things victory with an exclamation point. Here is a name you want to do that so stupid. Here's! Ok, although I am changing my email signature, do you dare me? Am I do railway okay? So I read it very much. I wrote a bunch of should have liked of. I wrote a bunch of mostly the comments on people's blog posts about what it was were fucking more interesting than the library ass. One of them was, it was done webs loose someone said on your phone keypad. The number corresponds with three or four letters. Look for S. Bt see the numbers are seven to eight to seven to eight too response with p a t see tat, see.
Don't underestimate us John use that good southern common sense of yours, it's up to you now, John Victory for Pat see. I know but what does that victory for backing Patsy? So maybe powers mean, I know it's her, but I'm How I don't know it. So it's one of those here isn't that interesting! Yes, it has nothing to do with it, while also that's a really good. That's a really good way to make up a code. What story now I mean took one: what's your name on or near heard, go her guests are LE merits, but by rote like a bunch of fuckin thats. Why sign a ransom note to begin with right? Nobody sends a ransom. No one expects you to put your name on now. Did you know there are also- and we should do a quick like let's,
do the sight of it was an intruder because of our galaxy there were thirty. Eight registered sex offenders living within two miles of the house and bolder, yes to lie. That's a lot. Our small Germany bend to the pediatrician put pediatrician over the last three years of her life twenty seven times. That's a lot, that's two men in Germany Wait was, was Patsy. Some kind of weird she might have had much much as I've actually say fur that says to me again TAT he had nothing to do with any of it, and John Dead make sense that she's the one d like who if someone makes the panic nine online call, the other person is telling them not to read the note its has not to call yes, so one way or the other
In writing, manipulated and re yeah. I think Patsy was manipulated. This whole time may machine you some things, and so she couldn't tell the truce. Yes, I think that's a look like a not seen at dinner interview where she got pale eyes and she's going to my daughter, whither I evenings cloud yeah yeah there. I think that she may be new some of it and agree to it and didn't realize the extent of her husbands, fucking awfulness, but also that idea that she would be telling she she said if we live in boulder, which, She sat arise if we live in boulder, which I wrote down, don't they live in boulder? I woods I would tell everyone in boulder. If we live in bold and she says I tell my friends, so it's dislike weird thing of like hurry. Telling yes and she's saying: there's a killer out their hold your babies tight. The idea that that's a given
like you. Don't have to underline that if you're this morning, mother, who, as a shit, cause she's very
active of her children yeah. Oh, you said in your l article. You said the thing about. We have to stop using the word Panther. Can we not so true, but you know what I thought of is Henry Lee Doktor Henry we has such a thick accents dear. I bet you. Lord underwear was our friends say in much the same way that I would not be able to say anything in any re dialect of Chinese and I would have to keep it pretty like clear and basic. That's what I thought of his like, I bet your hand. Heavy is easier to here than any kind of your real, and you feel now start. I myself up whole time that he needed here that they thought he needed to be subtitled. He did need to be said. Yes, a hundred percent. I never knew what he was saying because I was I was doing stuff around the catch and then I have to turn and I always feel bad for people who get subtitles. You don't really need to look at things. It's like a nagging them. It is
feels. Oh well, that's very american. I think that's like it feels like on the surface shameful, but the first thing I thought I was. If I were in China, and be subtitled. I wouldn't be appearing Iraq as I cannot speak right in I can. I have us a little bit of high school french there, but only about five minutes to evidenced instead of trying to speak in french use. Even we can you just fuckin subtitle, my Englishman, yeah yeah yeah, I'm just talk, and then you subtitle all of it, because- and I mean that I also on top of that I was like I was going to say that thing about the panties and I'm like wages. That raises is that problematic or whatever? And then I'm like this man is such a.
Famous and prolific end legendary forensic pathology. You don't watch programme. Should you wouldn't know that doctor early and really is someone that we all fuckin admire? He's a may everyone, the minute he's in honor you're, like this knowledge, legit, and also he has a building. They went to his building with his name on the front of it to talk about that some of the dna stuff so like there's, no, no sweat of Henry always back in anywhere Selina and he's document he's also not going to bullshit. He's not gonna, be pain to do a show with opinion, because they need a certain opinion. He's not gonna Y know. I feel at all of the scientists we were there. Always this thing is fucked and we need to look at it and at least just organise. The paper were at the very least I agree. The show is great. I wish we could see. The last aired yes portion of. I want to know what they cut out. In fact, everyone over by not showing them
but I wonder if it was stuff that the programmes these lawyers relate go ahead and ere it will own CBS in em a year. But I was thinking is that the four bias doc, you series before it covered so much of it already that they didn't or like you know, I mean I need this, maybe except for me. I have to see the other ones too now, but I don't know I mean cause. Their whole thing was like weren't discover all the stuff of Werner spits God. I love him. He has a straight a piggy blinders haircut. If you watch pinky blinders, that's the same hair. This second, I saw him. I was like online him picture him and Henry Lee put in a house together, and may just there's when peoples
being polite and starving real, like that, is my joy and then like there's just like they just get lake every morning they wake up in its and set a tyrant male, it's like a fuckin corpse and they have to figure out what happened to your email. It's a corpse! Oh my guide. Hungary! Would that be. I mean We should just start our own network. I feel like because also mourners bits casting on piggy binders so gorgeous he could be the german Irish. That comes in just point, some stuff out, listen enemies. Next year, there are winning all over the world moral, go down to the shrine and stand around near that burger care. I'll get a second rent. The runway, dress, yeah,
the whole thing actually made me. It made me think of lake, all of those other cases where people, the more people talk about it, the more people here bull shit, the more like you like that when we talk about the John Mark Car theory, where he'd confess to being her killer, while he was in Malaysia somewhere to get out get out of being in jail because he's childcare molester who had gotten arrested for, I think child sex tourism and and knew that if you want to jail there, he would just die in a pit the air, and so he confessed to killing John the name and then was extradited early interesting and way was extradited, never missed hockey about it. My sister gets a phone call from our childhood friend. I didn't tell you. This is a debate or amber. Excitement goes
Oh my god, see that kind of news right now. That's the guy from my church group, I've been complaining about, and apparently John Car lived in, Petaluma and was in my sister's friends, church group and was the guy that everyone's like I want to cancel church group next week. I feel so. Weirdly key was creeping people out and super weird super, like super just bad vibes suspicious, and then I mean how like satisfying would that be in and you seem like basely confessing to the murder of Germany, Rams amended. I see him like you know when there's like the clips, are the trailers to adopt a german ay can feel it doc, you series- and I see him, unlike others- knowledge it. No, I don't want to hear about him none. I know he has nothing to do with it aside from sensationalism. He should just get a big red herring costume because that's all he is, should we re Amerika holdings
A Felicia said she did some digging last night until super confident about the Burke fairy. She learned something she hadn't before. Okay. This is interesting. There was a fourteen year old girl that was sexually molested by an intruder about nine months after Germany was murder and very close to the Ramsay Home quote. Amy was sexually assaulted in her bed by an intruder that they believe was lying in wait for forty six hours before the attack. While they were all asleep, he was never caught and the border police disregarded the mothers suggestion that he could have been the killer of Germany aim in Germany Ramsay attended the same dance studio you there a lot of okay. So the fact that they had a walk through over their Christmas decorated house, the Ramses, was a couple days before the murder. Was like a public work. You're, never gonna like when you do like a haunted house. Yeah hollowing
So if anyone would have been in there and and the theory is that, while the Ramses were at a Christmas party, that night summon Fuckin came in broken new someone out a key got in and head and waited get totally possible and then there like, depending on what side you argue either the window in the basement, had no leaves where someone scooted in or had and undisturbed, spiderweb, where that would have been disturbed the summits good it s like everyone who has a fuckin, definitive answer about this needs to stop it because there is not one, no one. That's it. That's the crazy! The the cobbler blunt watching them on that one show here going in and out where I was just like job it then there's the one time. Were you don't touch? It is honestly and because yours really skinny cause you're on Matthau to learn this or that like for your very careful one billion. Yes, exactly the thing that I was
that was very suspicious, was this the first of all there these millionairess? They are too plain? Yes, but they ve broken windowpane in their basement and they don't fix it like I'm the most responsible person in the world, and when I broke my kitchen window, I fixed it within three days because your house here and it's an open window, legates unsafe its glass and then there were some somewhere in that where they John Ramsay, said that they left it like that, because you lot locked himself out alive. It switches and say that ITALY has committed to that being his fault. I thought was very where the super weird, because to me it's like. Oh, are you try to justify if there's some late in print somewhere, because
in their height a key there's one millions, especially a millionaire. They brought to man yeah by a second Fuckin house like there's all these things you could do instead of breaking a window and leaving it that way out. It was really like there's some things at what to me we're like well, if you want to argue this thing this way, you say this: if you want, or are you at the like, there's things like the taser marks. If you wanted to be an intruder, its taser marks, if you don't want it to be an intruder, its train track icebergs, toy train track marks. Yes, Repeats of evidence can be argued either way you fucking wants. We argue I did Ngos interesting when they argued the taser that taser don't put you to sleep. They rightly like get your adrenaline going, unlike Zappia air, make use greatly lunch awake here. That's an interesting thing. I think, and I think that that could point to shut this super shoddy police
work of that at these as weird assumptions word psych there they are actually measuring it mean like it doesn't even set it at taser shape. It doesn't. I think this thing for me: it lets let's or big conclusion freight. I think I'm so tired, I'm so tired and let us do the thing between between the ransom letter and the nine. When one call, and what happened between when the cops came and her body was sound put down and then I think of those all over the house of our neighbours and friends and things up DNA all over the carpet and there. I think that those things are the most telling more than anything else and the pineapple, but also I think those things all point to it. Inside John and
It makes more sense to me that one of the three people, aside from Germany in that house that night had something to do with it then a stranger or someone else outside of it here This makes more sense. It does. I mean the thing nets. Maddening, I guess, is there could be a little bit of every year. It could be an intruder, flew open that window and got that saw the sick in the room and put it there cause? He was like I'm gonna, go, get that little girl and take her out, though there's all these things that it could be a little piece of each but yes, I agree and believes that the a ransom notice, a lie, and it's a fabrication.
The nine one calls bullshit, I dump. I don't buy her level at its acting and it's not good, acting and then the third, that that mag light flashlight fits the whole zombies head perfectly. Air is devastating new. Like proof that or at least dancing too much. But it's a thing of like then you I just it suddenly made sense of like she did we get another hour attaining thing to him and he grab something nearby, throw it out or or like ran behind her and cracked her when night came in here, you don't have to be, like. You know, crazy, the good Son evil child to make a terrible mistake to me. Patsy and Burke Patsy S. Johns,
they have happened eager yeah either Well, he's gonna. Take your business like tat is the worst case scenario thing happened here. And yeah he's gonna fix, and did you know that so they didn't? I really like the one may apart from ransom, note and and look ladder by letter of young matches so where to go so these people were get my notes from under my cat where to go. Well, good people, there there writing or handwriting was compared to the ransom, know everyone clear and everyone keeps saying like won't, Patsy Ramsay was inconclusive and a hundred people hers the only one that wasn't cleared yeah. That was,
put inconclusive yeah. She also wrote out the words a hundred and eighteen thousand dollars instead of the numbers, yeah vs, nobody fucking does no one does when asked to rewrite the ransom note. She did that, but I So I just I have so much sympathy for her. Well yeah the the idea that she would. She would know child was murdered and then have to be a part of the cover up have to be the voice of the cover, the grieving mother and so then balanced as feelings of you actually really did lose your child, but now on in and in the name, just save its work in the name of your other child, you have to continue on and do this there. That's
sickening proposition, especially when you're someone who appearances means so money every year, and I don't give a fuck I'm sitting? Second already all right now it shorts and I give a shit. My rules need to be dyed set at strangers, laugh at me on the street, and yet it to be wrapped up in that world that trapping of of its aid its own pageantry. It's a dense version of look at my home. Now there are balls of shit in my daughter's bed. Look at my side a year by children. Please look at my Christmas tree and you're still winning it still. Gonna win the crown. I fear the second best at any rate is justified.
Insanity. Also there was that one quote were a little girl and its though the woman that was interviewed, I call her the wine friend that said I was exert. I was you know, turned out cast out from friendship where I was like yak as you talk, the Fucker reporters and you clearly just like brand blabbing, the second UK bodily, but she said TAT. Her daughter had gone up to dominate around with their one time and was looking at all the trophies and said what are these and she said I just one those there really my mom's thinking? First of all, I don't buy that that actually happen. That's like some! I don't like and anecdotes all right and twitter about their brilliant child, because it such an old soul kind of thing, knowing that's like her commenting on her the reality of our own life in a way as if she's, not a part of it, to say. Yes, my mother's wrapped up here career talk about this on Cps. When I'm dead yeah, it doesn't make sense for us
six year old? Maybe she was a orilla, I mean who now everyone wants to make their kids seem like an answer, but reality strike. They scream there s some Israel folk in the younger fuckin, wander new souls to everybody else in the restaurant. When your trial describing assertion is it was that enough zombies talk for everybody. I think it was a lie. I think I'm done talking about this anymore area. Unless there's new information, I would be interested in new information, but I feel like we ve. We ve just hit a peak truth zenith of Jean Monet reporting and and also just that, it's this thing of everybody going through crimes so out by crime or in other words just like. Given we don't need, did Kiehtan now the same thing over and over a man of research I've done Personally, I miss case that I am really very interested in and I feel a lot of fucking sadness and paint for
victim. I feel like a keep fucking searching it in and getting into in talking about it. I'm just I'm not I'm desecrated, her fucking memory- and I just I can't keep looking at fucking.
I believe that as yet. I did also it's not good for your brain out. Like not it's in your not related. You dont work on it. You don't put yourself through it. I saw a picture on twitter moments this morning, because there is nothing I was. I was a bit like six thousand, nothing going on twitter when I made the grave mistake of touching the moments button and seeing what the restore the thing- and it said something about job enabled. The picture was one where I was like is this actual Anna Jolie like her mouth is open and our head is tipped back and she's got all kinds of fuckin make upon and our hairs brushed away from her head. She can see like her tall forehead and she truly looks like she's twenty in such a sexual picture, and that's the picture twat twitter moment chose to used in champagne a headline picture, not the cute one note where she's got the little bangs a little hat and she just looks like she's on vacation is like she muzzle been like grabbing our own neck. It was such a sexual, like perfume, commercial, exceptionally less able to stop its gross to her.
Part. I mean it's not gonna. Stop, though, because its nights there, it's so fucking salacious and it's so mysterious. She is asleep. She weren't a file her away as a sweet baby angle. And she, I mean you're you're in mine and my favorite learners hearts and we feel awful and wish it would saw be solved. But it's not it's just not there's not even think it saw people organist eight, it's a fucking conspiracy right yeah. Keep your rabies plus. And keep your foreign factions even closer to the Pencroft Rock band. Say sexy and don't get murder on this one, the boy.
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