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MFM Minisode 187

2020-08-10 | 🔗

This week’s hometowns include a murder saw and the Kentucky meat shower.

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and welcome my favorite murder diminish its tiny and many it's real short we're. Just gonna keep you for a couple minutes. We ve got some emails from other people to read to you. You just hang out for five twenty minute there. It would be great Powerpoint presentation go with that of quick and easy. There is also to be sound. Effects will have each catered and it'll be great. First you gotta, be I wanna go first tried, ok, Amazon Pham. I know you hate malarkey saw get straight to the story of Joe Biden writing to Jo Leinen their dad. I could see you don't you malarkey, Jim, though now malarkey
He would use sarcastically that what's a bull shit make it last four minutes. My dad owns as on business. A solid waste, consulting and engineering consulting company. I actually work for him, as is marketing director and then in parentheses, yea for family businesses, question mark custom, arc, exclamation, point, exclamation, point, clothes, parentheses, does he not only to be a promo code murder because he is an expert on landfills. I know right, he had been called in on many criminal and civil cases over the years, most often because a landfill, employee or customer is killed, but sometime he gets called in on a murder trial where evidence or bodies have been found in a landfill, and this one I'm about to tell you- is both riveting and heartbreaking. Two thousand one Michael Black came home from work to find his wife Jennifer and six year old, daughter, Abbe, missing and blood soaked master bed. He called
the police, but eventually he was arrested, charged and found you t of murdering his wife, her body. It was found in a local landfill, which is why my dad was brought in one of the key pieces of evidence was material from his workplace that was found in proximity to his wife's body. However, my dad was for the defense hence and argued that the evidence did not indicate that her body and the pamphlets from his work could have come in on the same load. Wow, regardless microblog was imprisoned and a second trial just couple years ago found him guilty. The Evan against him seems pretty. Come dried until you consider some of the other evidence. Most of which was not allowed to be discussed during either trial. One sure we have address the daughter disappeared. A man was pulled over for traffic, stop in a nearby state. He had a little girl in his car and some sort of incriminating evidence. I think them. Arms driver's license or something that linked him to the family. It wasn't me Does car heat
We then arrested and Another suspect only identified is Mister B was identified, but never charged had. Confess to murdering other little girls and had a list with both Jennifer Black, the mom and Abbe Black The little girl named on many people think that, He was kidnapped and traffic, while her mother was murdered because she got in the way. I wonder of me: did not murder his wife and someone kidnapped his little girl and he has been sitting in prison. All these years. Of course, maybe did murder them in that's awful to either way as apparent to to young children. This case is heartbreaking. I'm always proud that my dad played a role in trying to get to the truth? You guys are amazing and also appreciate your honesty and sense of humour. Thank you for all your hard work, much love, Sarah wa I'll! Let you down, I mean it. Dad
thing. Is that idea that you could? It would be impossible to link evidence like that at a dump- Sierra Pure chaos- it's just like it. Imagine all the things that are out the dumps and if they it flew over and landed by about but you can interpret it a thousand way like. I wonder how many different people could be could be connected to that. Just based on the trash, to be there, and then I wonder what happened to make it so that that other, ever in wasn't allowed in court because kicked out item eight, really huge difference, but fuck now, but maybe there is a reason where it was. I I don't know, but at the same time it's like why if he were the murderer, why would he allow fliers from his work, to be anywhere near? It's not like that's almost suggesting that he. How did it all got thrown out with garbage that, like like he had been at the damp? That would be the proof somehow, but why would he put his own? Whatever
We're gonna be all right now I mean this is what I feel like this. Is this horrible and tragic case an situation, is kind of what people who get hooked on. To create. This is a perfect example early, because you could sit here and like theorize in your court armchair quarterback way for some. Long about ass, just like what happened every little element and why I am crazy, while we're tragic. This one has maybe my favorite opening it just says. Pleasantries. A year ago, when my boss learned I was going to your show and what it was about he casually ass. Did I tell you about the time I almost spot. A murder saw no, I replied. Well, trap and cause. I'm gonna break it down. For the sake of time back and there's a nine a lady named Patricia Gimme of Horton Kansas, was abducted from her home after days of searching and acting evidence to police believe she had been taken by force and might be deceased flash forest.
The months to when the police officially detained, Patricia Killer. Roy you're Hollister because he tried to kill him health and his wife and a head on collision after police named him as a prime suspect. Wow. Let me just say this: mother Fucker must have never seen a single true crime show because of how slow He was with everything anyway. This was followed up by his wife, Rebecca being saltier shit that her husband tried to kill them both and proceeded to tell the police what she knew, including taking police to the grave site. Oh shit Rebecca so what led to the Slang Patricia Ex husband who owned sawmill, that Roger frequented contracted a hit first twenty thousand dollars, because he was angry about the division of property and the two thousand and eight divorce. Who note that this sky was also an idiot because once the division of property was issued, he told anyone who would listen would listen, including various family members, that he wanted
her dad and was willing to pay to have it taken care of not smart. It was at this point and the story of my he followed? I want not only do I wonder dead weight come back, I know that's creeping up. I'll also will pay any priority for it and then a weekly she's gone. We earn also. Go back with you to really underline all the ways you can look out for me being guilty in the future. Spain, the story that, when my boss said that during the months when Patricia was missing, he met with the Ex husband to buy a use saw from the sawmill whom no, he says that when he met with the guy, he was being a bit weird about everything and was willing to sell the overly clean saw for a lot cheaper than what it was worth. The situation not feeling right, my boss, passed on the purchase
turns out. He made the right decision because, when Patricia remains were found, it was documented that quote a forensic pathologist examined the vertebral body and the few ribs that we're still attached and noticed a line of deconstruction where the ribs appeared to have been cut in a straight line. In the end, the Ex husband settled in civil court in a wrongful deaths suit. What the FUCK Roger died in is an twenty thirteen and his wife Rebecca, was officially charged with aiding Phelan. I'm just glad that petrol check out justice and that my boss didn't buy. A martyr, saw Whitney H Wow. That would be a very creepy position. To be the person that answers the Craigslist add and this second, you roll up you're every hair on your body stands up in your let's get out of this saw mill, I feel like, let's not by saws, secondhand, guys
Let's turn sawmills in general, I dont think unless you are run a lathe horror, leg, very talented, logger, there's no don't be over. There go to your local hardware store pick up a you know something q and kitty and saw a new branches ha that's never be it has to be now. Yeah wet weather saw a hatchet ma. Anything any dropping such a cheap, ass, her you're, getting yourself indeed troubles right, I'm not reading the subject. Monolithic gives it all away. Ok, let's just get right to it, my hometown as Paradise. California, you know the one that was completely destroyed by the camp fire two years ago, now, my family, so five by the skin, of their teeth and images and articles from the events till suddenly reeling into anxiety and panic. I bet anyway, that's not this story in our middle school. Here is a programme for eight graters called Northwest, eight, literally because the four portable classrooms. The programme used were on the northwest corner of the campus about forty five
students were sectioned off from the rest of the school. We attended separate class is, and we had just three teachers between us: the real you're. The north West aid was at the time cheers used, alternative learning methods such as simulated history and
to our local wildlife areas to learn about the land and California history. This is some California Montessori. She I like go in there that we went yellow I'm San Juan CAP astronomy to learn about the swallows that came in every fuckin. Whenever this whole business isn't so gallop, orgasm every foot, general finesse, it all went straightened a little Georgia, literally yeah. I can't I've on what their laying down yet. This reminds me of like when MRS too willing would come and visit our school and she would bring like this is a living abalone or whatever they billet learn about because, as I am sure would ever get into it immersive, although I'm because my door really quick sum up yet we wanted jukebox from the nineteenth from the sixties, I still expenses birthday and they and its fully it's from a record store. That refurbish is all jukeboxes
so they fell down like two hundred and fifty records old records That's bad ass, We had to apply to be in this programme and it was competitive. We usually but for dissimulation days, where the a re made our little world of classrooms into sets for whatever we were learning about from L, was island. We were checked for nets in segregated by Europe, home Pre, assigned countries to the industrial revolution. They had us assembling little paper. Hats in a hot out classroom under cramped conditions to a slave ship. I am not even going to describe this one because he likes how one, unless simulations they did was done dot, dot, the nineteen. Seventy six chow chill a bus capping the Karen covered in the last episode. That's right, our three teachers dressed his kidnappers with fake bandanas den lots of yelling. They shuffled us into the back of a pitch dark. You hall,. Don't happy and we,
we're given instructions to figure away out. I think I blocked Think I blocked a lot of this stuff out. But listening to care tell the hour, little story that inspired my teachers to do. This was disturbed. Looking, I'm really not sure what the lesson was something about teaching us survival and strength. Maybe, but the lesson I learned was dont trust, adult even your teachers, because what the fuck, I might add this was in ninety ninety seven, so not that long ago, that Israel teaching skills, then they Haven T yeah the aid if they pushed at eighty shit right up to ninety Ceta anyway, thanks
for everything. The years upon years of listening to you both has helped me through some rough times, C4 spare her off and recently I completed listening to every episode from the beginning. It took me eighteen months in a proper and approximately three hundred fifty miles of morning. Why guy love that stay sexy and don't let your teacher, fake, kidnap, you Rachel, T good one. That is ok. What I mean I kind of I have to say- but I know it's wrong, but I love the idea of its like what you gonna do now is crazy. Shit is happening you. What are you gonna do now, it's very unfair, for maybe the more debt the kit people in there. I should really like you know: I'm gonna. Do I'm an appeal in the corner. I meant to be known as the being in the corner gray for the rest of my criterion that I'm upset about the fact that this happened, a children, my age, every night not able falls asleep. We imagine each man, what were they
Thank you. I had a teacher. I would also just like lawsuits embarrass. You still remember this fuckin teacher. I hadn't third grade, wanted to show us what sexism was like. You know in the old when, like women couldn't work at Vienna Workforce, and so she separated the boys and girls and let the boys do whatever they want and made. The girls like turnin homework. And then I would only the switch and let the boy happen make the like she. Basically she did so sexism online sizes ill? A mad about boys, were such decks like her hand, they play cards and staff, and we were all this fuckin baron she's like right. It's not there, that's what else.
How about the lesson be? Reversing the people who actually really our that already know what they like small, Heidi, like is not always are already in jars, ingrained already. What was fully pick up that script and let the people learn who, where I will not pretend missed Rachel, not you thank you ever see here in Europe or if your drama and the things you we're teachers did? So thank you for sharing. I love to know all about it. Yes, ok, this one's call them Mexican Revolution, family murder, high all Just listen to the latest episode and when George I talked about the Mexican Revolution, I decided to send you my family murder that happened during the mexican revolution. I came across a story, I was helping my away low sort, some belongings and found a letter from mexican Embassy, and since I can't speak or Reed Spanish, my greatest shame my Vila filled me in and nineteen,
Two of my great great grandfather and great great grandmother came to America seeking asylum which they were granted and they fail to life for themselves at a small farm on the Texas Mexico border. One day, if you Two years later, my great great grandfather was out working the farm when american soldiers rode up on their horses and shot him dead. Then we share reason. He was mexican and looked like a rebel. This left, my great great, grandmother alone to raise eight children, She was passed and rightfully so she fine court against the United States and was awarded two thousand dollars for the death around twenty eight thousand. Today she took them. Me and bought a huge plot of land and built a home which is the same home. My away LE would grow up. In the same home, I spent my childhood summers at visiting my Mama great Grandma Intel Sheep. Asked my way. Still owns the harm and rents it out to locals and other family members who still live there. We used to
is it their old town multiple times a year. Less are now that my way, Parkinson's is advancing, but it's a special place to my face. It's our american rates grown from a horrible injustice This story reminds me that not that much has changed so we must keep fighting. As my willows gotten, sicker tat. My visit, I worry, you could be the last time and every time he tells me that never be ashamed of who I am and where I come from his master. He spent his whole life feeling ashamed of hooey wise because of some racist bastards and Tommy quote watching you and your sisters grow into successful. Independent women taught me that there is nothing to be ashamed of. We are strong and beautiful people, and we should be proud of that thanks for, yeah I'll. Do your pack hast brings me so much joy in times of real darkness, lovey all s, that's so cool, also a grand father, that's telling his granddaughter he's learning from their holy water. Bad ass lake awesome
full man yeah a reality. So called as it's really a beautiful story. Thank you for sharing that essence, and I love how much you used the word Ya'Ll. That's just might one of my favorite words for not be ice, our gas, it I'm not I'm under the one titles Texans member in the beginning when we were, but we were all met, likes someone tweeted, I tweeted something and use them where'd ya, an EU tax us, unlike Stephen, why did you use already all we don't touch that I think are actually that wasn't me I like, because its gender neutral, I don't know like it's just because it so not somebody over normally say the makers of them, electric toothbrush want you to know the one single discovery that matters most fear dental care, if you I have good habits you're good. That means
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that's right, standby ass. This story is about my parents, spooky house and their very good dog, all caps. Then dogs Georgie Frankie? Look at her quietly. I know what they have to do to stand around here. That's right, this like me, when I used to ask to be my cousin, Charles Room, you just have to zip the living can stand there for as long as you want simple oral it I'll get. My parents house was built in nineteen fifteen and they bought it just before I was born in the eightys. It pretty normal house to stories, three bedrooms, a big yard and an unfinished basement. We ve never finish the basement as its prone to flooding and we ve always just use it as a general sort of laundry workshop, etc. Space. It's just a little bit creepy the way that all unfinished basements are but never free. Me out too much as a kid. When you, open, an old house, creepy, basements and spooky noises at night, like noisy, radiators or just part of life, any by around two thousand ain't. My parents adopted a new dog of lack lab mixed named clerk.
A car their oil, Mr Mayor, in the corners reading this that's the funniest, our child, The dog had passed away. My sister and I were long grown and gone, and my parents wanted to or friend around the house, clerk was sick. Months old and incredibly sweet he'd, been rescued from above odd situation and for years he hates to be alone and always wanted to be in the same room, is someone that's so frank he was pretty well trained by his foster family Housebroken and almost never bark he was and still is to this day. He's doing for his age pretty much the perfect. I love Here too after he came home with my parents, my dad, That work in my mom went downstairs to do laundry the basement, access through a door with a little closet area on one side in the kitchen, and it has come He wouldn't steps going down to it. Clark predict I followed my mom down these stairs into the basement and immediately freaked out. It was the first
I'm he'd been in the basement and something terrified him looked around and stiffly air. A little bit then lead one sharp bark differ. This time I mom ever heard him bark. He backed up is hackles were raised tail between his legs. He so scared. He peed on the floor little bed and then he raced back upstairs to the kitchen. My mom was at a loss for what it scared him so much, but obviously something did she went upstairs. Comforted him, but he refused to go back down in the basement. He refused so even stepped through the door leading the stairs to the basement, there's a door to the Driveway half way down the basement stairs and that's it only door where you don't get a faithful of flying lab. If you enter, we ve tried everything, favour dog, treats people, food toys, but nothing in twelve years has come Vince this incredibly social dog to even passed. You that doorway once when I was visiting something happened to cause a small hole in the kitchen floor and Clark.
Wouldn't go near it until it was covered up. None of us have ever. Experienced anything to creepy in the basement, but obviously something terrifying is down there and clear. It's the only one with the good sense to avoid it stay sexy and don't get murdered in a creepy basement and then scarce we dug only a guide what's down there. They know knowing it up the gauntlet items down their gender. Who knows what he's talking about rights? I believe I think it like it. Just I from me it like makes they believe in like bad vibes more and I am sure, but if unfinished. There could be like one corner of the basement where it there's just a body. It's just like
You know a cartoon we're down underground. Oh, yes, he, the skeletons and stuff. There could just be a skeleton just right on the other side of one of their unfinished wall or he's just a design snob and is like finish that fucking basement already it's garbage. I do want to look at it. I will pee on cyber it's now years. Civic its destiny is south. Is that one thing you stuck up about? It is unfinished flooring. Anna shit, I'm glad Indonesia, ok, this my last ones, cup Kentucky Meet shower. Oh yeah, current joy convince and all the pets all events I was listening to the recent many sewed where you shared about the Jello rain shower in Washington and finally, I have a home town to send you the story of the Kentucky Meet shower shithead. Here. We go back in March eight keen seventy six on a clear night in rank in Kentucky MRS Couch, I never could Fine, her name only your husband's ugh was
outside my neuron business, doing farming type things on her farm when all of a sudden chunks of meat started falling from the sky with a bit the chunks were as small as a golf ball up to as big as a great fruit and shit This poor woman was freaking. The fuck out she was interviewed, saying the shower of flesh must have been a sign from God, probably The next thing I must sign out go inside stands out, finish. Your basement guns, I'm, but the next day some random deeds came to the farm to investigate and said the mystery meet had the distinct taste of quote rancid mutton, which means they raise, which mean that it's like what it's like, been cocaine rubbing it on your tooth momentum, a shower of saint, just AEGIS, dab under your tongue on each side of the Ets. As no thank you, a scientist later study to preserve sample and set, it had to be some form of no stick or sire, no bacteria that can fall
when it rains much like the story in the last hometown, which I pronounced totally wrong by the way? The last I got so many tweets, but I don't care of it well was whenever that's called agency pronunciations that I dont know. Oh, are you not a scientific centres? Wait! No because you have really been acting like one higher, and it's on my razumihin that I gave you a home, tat science. Smoking can't be, The problem with that theory is that it was complete. It was a completely clear night, so it couldn't have been part of rain to add further, confusion to the story. A later analysis of the tissue discovered it to be either lung tissue from a horse word or o caps, a human infant. And then it says, apparently, those tissues were indistinguishable back then weird, so it's probably horse meet at camp, a human infant, but yet questions let me give any so what actually happened? Question mark and no one knows for certain. The favourite theory of law
because in the area is that the meat from the sky was quite literally meat, they think vote. Tourists flying overhead must have disgorged their stomachs all at once to cause the chunks of meat to shower down they probably previous. CIAO down on an animal carcass. Hopefully, sure. Mrs couch was just incredibly unlucky that night I've living can A key for more than half my life now and I love my weird and wonderful state hoping to see you come through here again, if the world stops ending thanks for keeping saying that normalizing my true credit session and just generally being the best Hosty, GM and watch for meat showers, Keller Kalen. I may do so if you're gonna say a meat shower. In my mind, that means meat is going from. As far as the I can see that the right idea, as far as you can see the left back and forward. So if it's cultures, throwing up yeah. Did it just Did it come down with them like a ten foot, radio rising or was likely letters one person, and then that's it.
Who now yeah, because you re cause, then that I there so many theories, you could start inventing about what that d from. But I imagine that it was like when you talk about the other one that it's like rain showering, but Other start yeah, like rain. I was everywhere it doesn't just now. I think it was just the me Can someone also like a biology major tell us if you fuckin horse meat and human? sent me, are at all similar way back in the eighteen hundred they would use the do. I have to say I bet you the scientists that theorize that was like this, the chances This looks a lot like her slung to me. Why palaces? like a man and then the person that they worked with is like still writing down, or is it not Don't you know anything? I say thinking and were accidently writing at the same time. You know and you go there. That's gotta be like
he's he's writing what it probably array than he accidently wrote what he hopes. It's not right. Was that with s case scenario in the worst case scenario Vasquez now and then when he will quit is when it comes back said at this ever happens again on its human and aunt em out just need to know the range? I need to know the the what guy? What did this fallen yeah send us you're makin stories. Please there so fun. There sat around any better by the money early I'll go. I had some good ones to choose from concern to my favorite murder, a Gmail there's a place on the website to send them and, in the end, the fan cult as well me love em, come and be a part of things, listen and then get justice. Fine one. Now that you can relate to your own life and that, like many people did on this episode and then go, I finally have a reason right in and write. It adds right baby, Stephen leaving the conversation about the jukebox, so maybe people already about random jukebox stuff
how can you guys there are jukebox didn't work because they open up the back and there was hoarse long then come. I don't make me a lot of work. You do the work tat. You get your horse, long story together and also you stay sex and don't get murdered by ETA, Elvis you wanna cookie
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