They don't want to huddle on the hello and welcome to another episode of no such thing as a fish, a weekly podcast coming to you from the QR offices in Covent Garden. My name is Dan Schreiber. I am sitting here with an itch: isn't sky, James Harkin and Andrew Hunter Murray, and once again we have gathered round the microphones with our four favorite facts from the last seven days and a nope, take order here we go starting with you. James harken my thought this week is that the fear of lifts can be cured by starving the subject of forcing them To eat all of the males in left,

and how long do you have to eat all your meals and a left, for? I think they only did it for a day or two, but then they checked back on this person a few years later and it works, and this is in an old paper from nineteen. Seventy three that I stumbled across this week and the papers called a brief treatments of elevator phobia. And its by S Britain's Wick and Leslie, so young. So what's the idea, you would sit inside an elevator and you'd be distracted, so that is what you do. Is you got money scared of elevation left you say to them you're not last week for twenty four hours. Then they go. Okay, I'm not going away, and you say you're not allowed to drink water either and they say okay and then you them. Ok! Well, you can have something. Sweet now have some conflict so another, but you can only have a if you're inside that left, and so they have to go in the left, Gaza, so hungry, and then I reckon just because they ve got in there. In their kind of getting used to it. Then they feel this. I didn't say it was like TAT one.

We're, okay, with being in the lift because they're enjoying the eating process. So no because what it is with phobias, one good way of getting over it is by forcing yourself to kind of go to these places. I'll see these things or touch these things, that you're add of and slowly you kind of build up resistance and you realize had not may be as bad as you think you can get over it really the fate it's genuinely just to lure them into the lead. It really is just pick the guy up and push him in. I think that might be a bit more. he may would not make a phobia of it worth their while the thing is, I think a lot of it is something that has happened, that you associate with this thing and usually happens when you're between four and seven as child and then later on, you kind of, even if it so consciously. You put these two things together, and so you scared

scared of mushrooms. So when I was four years old, I must have been attacked by a mushroom. I don't know playing a lot of Mario yeah. So if I'm scared of spiders do I have to eat all my food off. A spider is how it's gonna work. Well, they think one good way of stopping being scared of spiders is by to touch spiders. So you go to like a zoo and they put a tarantula on your hand. Maybe it makes you feel better. They call it in vivo exposure, but the problem is that people don't really like to go to the spider House and have the spiders put on them, and I was reading the Nosql in improbable dot com and they said that a way of doing this is by augmented reality. So say you sat in front of a computer and you put your hand down and there's a camera. Looking at your hand, the computer makes it look as if there's like cockroaches running across your hand, you'll think that they run across your

Women are actually on that can maybe kind of cure. You have been scared of cockroaches late why's, that better than just having the son of the cause, people don't like to go if they see cockroaches or just freak out, but if they put the hand down- and I just looking at a computer- then ceasing to get someone in front of a computer then in front, If a cockroach house thermal computer so you were saying that it's probably a memory that you have maybe a memory that you have from childhood, maybe, but in two thousand and thirteen there was some new research done that showed you could sort of inherit memories from your ancestors and so yeah. So what happens is if one of your, Is that a horrible experience I ve been bitten by a spider alignment. Imago, then their response to that makes a chemical imprint on your dna and that chemical imprint can then be passed down. So then you'll have this phobia. So this is new new research that was done in twenty thirty.

This is why I'm scared of nuts, that explains you're totally irrational phobia of the Nazi grandparents had so you know comes of relation, and I think that's definitely true in mice as net. They showed that that was true. My yes, I didn't I'm not sure it's true in humans yards, whether that can be imprinted on into DNA. Yes, it would like one is either into my sperm. The fact that I was attacked by a dog, my sperm, who have that knowledge as it goes across. Yet I mean not the if you're, going to have a grandchild who's like hey? I remember this weird time in the Curia offices when a dog bit my butt is the response to that makes a chemical imprint on your mind. Yes, one who is mad and fear of clowns. That's a big thing cool, we're phobia. Yes, exactly I thought you say, goes a cool phobia criminal saying it was a fear of coolers ones, confused

so what they do now. Circuses is starting to do this. They have at sessions before the Sarka starts, where, if your The clowns you can go and watch the clown do their maker you feel comfortable and feel it's true. This is true. You do clown sling and you can watch clowns, get their makeup done and it's meant to help you massively to see the transformation, but it is quite obvious that the name proceeded to the anti yeah I lived. A good method is to stop someone for a day. and then they can only custard pies those. I read a report that for people who are afraid of elevators. In I'm cases they will opt for a job that pays less if it's in a lower floor of a building. So this is the thing Otis Theme

Elevator company. They estimate that every five days, the equivalent of the entire population of the planet, uses a left, so seven billion journeys are made and left every five days. I think it was and in their lives exactly yes, I just ran doses, not not even a Schindler. I read about an amazing lift that maybe the three of you ve heard of thy hunters, and I discovered I discovered a great website called elevator PDF, which, is just the Wikipedia of elevators got four hundred. Ninety two articles: nine million registered users over nine million, but yeah active users, was about twenty to nine million registered. Probably the proud so yeah. So I started reading about I pressed random page and just brought up different random pages in the first one that came up was the double decker elevator. Have you heard of that night The idea repressing random article in it. You have to wait thirty seconds for yes,

A double decker elevator stops at two floors at a time, see you're able to cut the journey and half effectively it's impossible to go from the very bottom. laws are the very top floor, because your advice Logically, it goes a little thing on the roof where it is pops I'm pretty sure that you're either in a lift that goes into it sort of attic of no doors and let you out when the link below you is trying to go and there's a basement for those below lived to not so yeah, you can still go to the top floor and is very satisfying to get to a flower you're not allowed to get out of here. This is a like, always is terrible as well. I imagine you are describing then, when I imagine that they would just over the same full and both levels and either the liquid opening have a six drop as these I thought it would open and you'd just be faced with the wall cause you're on the lower level. I think what I'm saying is that this isn't a particularly good idea it's that using in so many different countries get its extremely popular birch colleague has its, and so

do a lot of Taiwan and Hong Kong and Japan skyscrapers have as well well. The thing about that is about Budge Al Khalifa, and that is it not the case. That lifts can only go a certain number of flaws because, after that, the The cable gets too heavy awesome, well yeah, exciting times and lift news because they ve got a new technology, which means that less might be able to get twice as far really got. A new kind of rope is go out for open its made of carbon fiber and they make I'm used to be about five hundred metres, but now is much bigger, and I reckon that this is the only thing preventing us from building. Two thousand me too high guys is I've been reading. Loads of reviews of this book called lifted, a cultural history of the elevator by undress burnout. I haven't read the book yet, but I found one review which started off just remember. The public said this book had its ups and downs. the ones on now that

look it's out of the way. This is a very interesting, so they did have kind of elevators type things didn't I, but then the first modern elevators they came in the nineteenth century, and I read that the first elevator shaft proceed did the first elevator by four years. What this is the Wikipedia actually, but I think it does stack up and they just normal wicket failure yeah it was the elevator or later period. I wasn't in that one, and so this was in the Cooper Union Foundation Building in New York in eighteen, fifty three and they built it with a lift shaft, because the guy who built the We show that lives would be events. It quite soon why self, confident, alma, ATA and sure enough for years later, they did invite them, but his shaft was circle.

And all lives out, secular, and so they couldn't fit the lifts in the car on the square left in a round hole. That's interesting! Why can they not just make a loud and clear that later Otis decide the special left just for that building? Psycho, do you know the secret override for left? If you press, flew down left right, isn't that awesome lifts which use particular system called logic, controller, which is a sort of the brain of the left? Basically, if the lift uses logic controller, if you press your floor and the close door button at the same time, you can go to whatever floor. You like in a left immediately and bypass all the others right. What so? This is ring to someone on the internet, who I read. Who said he worked in a building with loads of left, so you haven't, you ever lived system even at part of the left, the building. He said that if the less uses this system that does work, but obviously you can't tell that sounds very much like,

urban myth? Give it a go? Give it a go listening to this, that, if everyone does this, that would you with the guy who walks that tries to do it you've now stuck in a lift? someone is going you dick, it doesn't work, but you tried to ruin my left right, going past my floor. If you're in the left, you can just press a button. is horrible. On the outside, who requested the left, No, you might be in a hurry. Well, can you might need a piece we're not advocating it possibility on these very selfish man. The rest of us would advise against it. I want to know if this is a if this is a myth that imagine it is. People say that pressing the clothes button doesn't actually there consensus on their wares gods that no one's properly refuted it. No people or the internet who work in and these lift companies we film a cure.

in a building with a lot of lifts, and so I realize we have an excellent. I pressed the closed door and I reckon they do maybe that they never doing in thrillers ends and horror movies that always in their pressing at my crazy in the left, is just chill. It's definitely true that there are some road crossings, whether button. Doesn't really work it has done time, especially busy crossings. I think that the closed a button is likely to work on all the lifts. Health and safety was invented. A new one cup people have had left in our lives in Singapore. How urine detected vice in them. Carl work out whether this is cause Singapore and authorities already paranoid This also, there was a spate of urinating because they did say in the nineties. There was a year. There was something like forty incidents of lives, opening and having a party if you're left right and so now, if you urinate in in Singapore, that has one of these devices in it.

and a long etcetera of the lift. Stop so you're stuck in the elevator. The police are called and they come round and then start the lift so that you can get out and be arrested by the police for wearing in an elevator. While so don't do that. How can I tell them this year and this year in the tax, is what if I spoke, my bottled water, for example, and it had like a lot of kind of you here in my work? I was it from different outright. Thank you. Can just tell people that you ve got your intersection device and nothing that will deal with the majority of Asia like that stuff they don't put in swimming pool yeah. It's like an inkling that turns color when you pay in the pool that doesn't exist, my god, I always got so worried when I actually do have a piss and waiting for a color to emerge, and then I wonder if there's something wrong with my Pez go to the doctor, I'm really worried my pisses yeah.

okay, it is time for fact number two, and that is my fact. My fact this week is that the russian space Agency light their rockets using giant wooden match. So this is to me unbelievable. yup sadly, but it's this is from popular mechanics, so it's been verified and the idea. Is that the Soyuz Rockets when they're going up? So this is not for every single rocket that they launch. However, it's been used hundreds of times The idea is that you need a consistency So many booster rockets, you need a consistency of all of them to go to be lit at the same time and something needs to light them. So what they've created are these giant bits of Birchwood Old, put together, created into effectively a giant looking match their sat underneath the boosters? They all have little wiring. That goes right to the top, and the problem is, as obviously as the fire picks up the wiring gets cut off. So the idea of using the wood is to keep it lit like a match to have the wood,

it's flaming up, and so they can lie all these rockets at the same time and and that's how it goes in space giant sticks it's nuts, it's very cause, so old she had been doing that for sixty years now are that is the only part of the modern rocket launch system. This made of Would I really president has, by reserving they do you guys know the first lighted his work, and so they were flintlock guns and they were converted to the purpose of becoming lighters innocent Steve Century. So faint, not guns are any fire on that uses Flint to strike up and create a flame which would propelled the bullets out of it. and people realise that you could turn this ignition mechanism into the lighter, and that was the world's first lighters. Why? How cold? Is that and then hardcore? Looking guns? It is cool because then you get the actual lighters today that look like really good. Actually, Novelty lies before there were lighted

especially with the exact here. Let me say I found one of the earliest references to matchsticks from ancient China and they are originally in their translation, described as light bringing slaves. That was a name and they were they were from a book called the records of unworldly.

Sorry records of the unworldly and the strange, which is a great title for a book, and I've never heard of that before it's an old ancient chinese book and that's where it comes from yeah, the old chinese ones. They had sulfur on the end of them than I, but you have to light them from another light. Basically, you needed another fire sauce in order to light them, so I dunno, if that counts, as okay yeah chasing yeah, definitely cause sofa was used in the nineteenth century matches as well. That was where matches really took off and that's when you got match factories and much girls, and things like this yeah and the problem with matches in the first place was that they would they were very easy to light, and so they would set fires, and things like this, but in eighteen, forty, four, the safety match was invented by a swedish professor called Pash, and what he did was he just split up the chemicals that you needed to set the match aflame

So the phosphorus that you didn't need you just put on that's what's on the surface of the box, and so you have to combine the two elements which had originally been both in the match had together how, while- and that was why I say lignite it so easily- is cause it's all were ready for. You are. This is guaranteed work because before that, I think it does it was altogether. If you just sort of accident irruption match up against any surface workers are not so you get people sort of striking it on. You know genes or some yeah gravity wall. What so these dodgy ones will ones were invented by the guy from stops and culture, Walker and they were banned in France and Germany cause they were so dangerous. They were giant matches as well. The first few proper matches which aren't matches celebrated. They were yard long, hot, yes, were entered to light them. You had to pull you to go to fold of sandpaper put the in between that pull and they were so dangerous, though, because often a flaming ball of material would fall off the end of the match to the ground of the carpet or wherever you or someone's dress. He was able to get

I, though John Worker, because he refused to patient as much as he had a decent amount of money, so he D really did invent the lighting match. Even though is a little bit dodgy to start with, it was based on health, but he did the everyone else, I much technology, and he had enough money and said you didn't want to pay to imagine a tool Michael Far Day and other people like that said that he should get money out of it. He never made a penny and he never got the credit for until after he died, there was actually a Frenchman called Chancel who came up with one twenty years before him. It that one had an end tips with potassium chlorate and sulphur, and you have to put acid on it to even more dangerous one. That was another. and Charles Sawyer, who invented one very shortly after John Walker and it relied on phosphorus and they kept using the phosphorus in this country. So it sounds like they banned it in other countries, but in this country they kept using phosphorus in matches until nineteen. Oh six- and it is

It was incredibly poisonous, so everyone who worked in those factories got this thing called Fauci Jaw, which was where your teeth wrought in your whole, face, would swell up and your jaw bones would wrought, because the fosters, as they talks at your hair, would fall out so. Anyone who use regularly or worked with making these matches would just add that full part- and I read it- would make you vomit, even a tiny amount breeding. And what might you format and you could see the way people walked home from the phosphorus factory because they would be like pools if fluorescent vomit or the world Matchstick model record. What are we? far size on number of much that same number of matches, a million two hundred and eighty thousand, I You know, so I'm gonna die thing for me to say the answer is The model of an oil rakers by Michael David Reynolds, who used work on oil rigs and it contains

four million. Seventy five thousand matches wow, it's huge That'S- a man is really good. It took him over fifteen years to make yeah right use of a lifetime nervous. Other people will tell you the reason he does. Does this strike. We was suggesting you build the world's biggest matchstick thing. Instead of watching our show on Fridays has a little plug there yeah. I feel really sorry for his son because he said that it was just that one Christmas, his son, bought him a matchstick kit of a train to build a train of matchsticks, and that feels really like the sun doesn't know what to get his title. Just get him this. Who cares? He can put it in a corner, forget about it, and I bet he really regrets that twenty years They say when all his dad's done or talked about is the fact that he's built one hundred thousand matchstick or he's forever been trying to make up for this shit president that he got by going. No, I really love it. Look I'm making my next thing. Look I'm going to make my alright. He hates it so the Guinness has to other matters

related world record. Let's hear them most much sticks stacks into a tower in one minute, yeah great, let's say one second, sixty very close. Fifty nine not bad for a million Elsa is seventy four while the other one. This is the one which I think is most beautiful, possibly is the largest election of musical instruments made from us, which is about it's about ten. I know I'm getting you next, eleven kids yeah I've just got a couple of things on looking into outweighs things, let go Sunday. So how do you like the limping torch? What was

in the process there? And so probably we all know it's late in Olympia. It's got a classic kind. It actually is a flame that goes there, but I had no idea how much backup flame that they have should it go out. Have you heard about this? I thought it pretty much went out all the time, but yes it does. They have backup flame that they've brought with them from Olympia from the very same fire, and they realize that using that exact flame to the flame is broken up into, all different little compartments so that it can be re lit with the original flatly there. What are they storing the framework that is those of other people holding back of an anti torture there in buses and stuff that cat? Then you ravel with them yet must adjust retaining a giant via yeah. You can see a photo so when they leave a limp here they take life flame on the plains over to where they're going. So you can see. There's a photo of British Airways were two seats, have life flame. four capsules of lie. Planes are obviously got a lid on them

and they carry that. I think that's the only that you're allowed to take on a. I just think that a backup olympic flame thing is this cutest thing, I've ever it's so it doesn't matter, is a flame. It's symbolic. I guess that's what they're gonna symbolic and invented by the Nazis as well. Was it I think so fire yeah. No, I think they invented the idea of like a olympic flame relay. You have the right. I've got such a cool thing about fire making fire. Just do you guys know about it? new fire ceremony that the aspects had no. This is this so that the ass tat calendar cycle was every fifty two years and at the end of every fifty two years the Aztecs ordered the all fires in the whole aspect empire were extinguished and they have started

and so every single person, I'm fifty two years, have to put out that fire, and then they go on top of this one. Top of this mountain and a priest would light the first fire for the new calendar cycle and what was called the new fire ceremony and what he did was he'd like to inside the chest cavity The sacrifices person sacrifice someone they taken off the top of the mountain they open up their chests and then the aspect priest like too far inside his chest and then he'd a bunch of people will be allowed to come forward and sticks in this in the fire without any hesitation, If you ever had one and then the flow will be distributed throughout the empire again, and that marked the start of the new calendar wow okay. It is time for fact, number three, and that is Andy, my that the film

and Roger Rabbit is based on a true story: heartwarming story of a rabbit now, so it's loosely based, but that is based on an actual story of something that happened in America in in the early twentieth century. So can you explain to me what happens in who framed Roger rabbit cause? I haven't seen it either it's very complicated, but basically there's a transport conspiracy don't give away. All the spoilers of the film but and it is about the car and about and there's a Chinese rather isn't it he's, not a giant rabbit nosey. Now they could have done No, you pay the normal rabbit, but he's got it but he's not taller than Bob Hoskins. Well, I still think that he's between the size of a rabbit and Bob Hoskins. Imagine such a thing and got a bow tie on how how tall you say he is told,

feet yeah. I think it up that covers a very big rather with is up right. He's probably told them Bob Hoskins is no. I don't think he is now he's. Not he never saw them up. Hoskins even is poised. Real hoskins was very short my example. Perhaps it is normal rabbits eyes anyway. I think big isn't the true of the much

it is a greeting astrology, but basically story that is based on is a thing. That actually happened is a group of car and oil companies. They were called national city lines right and it was controlled by General motors and the thing they did in the early years of the twentieth century. They bought up loads of St Caroline studies: street cars with rails, trolley, buses, things like this over across Amerika nobody's up and they dismantled them, shut him off, and I also ran a lot of buses. So as an automobile buses running on roads, I suppose running rails and they were eventually find huge amount for kind of monopolizing attempting to monopolize the market for transport equipment. So some people think

but this was a huge conspiracy designed to create the age of the car and to shut down public transport in February cause cause. There was. It was oil and car companies that were doing this yeah it's a bit more complicated than that, because the street car industry was already in decline and it's also a lot easier to run a bus which doesn't need rail than it is a strict budget deeper that popular. This is what the under this was absolutely huge and locally has never leather is, I think, an american really big and sort of its really big idea that the age the car was stitched up by a lot of these come. I gotta say Roger Rabbit and really do justice to the seriousness of the it's based. I also to understand why they felt the need to add cutting our life. You know that it's just just to give a quick, proper background on Roger Rabbit. As a movie, it was Robert Zemeckis, who directed it, which was the back to the future director came out in nineteen eighty eight and the technology

the animation mixed with real life. Footage was advance so knew that the very same year that was made- or let's say the Oscars that happened post the movies release, recognise its animator, Richard Williams, an innovative and gave him a special Oscar like it just a completely separate special Oscar to say this movie is changed. Everything for filmmaking with animation So the really important movie in the history of Cinema also is the only film Looney, tunes, characters and Disney cartoon characters appear in the, I feel that was very right to see what was on the arguments and bookkeeping and though they insisted, both companies insisted that the characters have exactly equal on a screen time, as the other companies can't just didn't, nay, and that was why, unlike us, I haven't seen it but apparently bugs bunny wherever you see a Warner Brothers character, that's accompanied by a Disney character. So I think the two pairings of characters in the film and the

brings, always I wanna Brothers Cartwright Disney character, because both companies that, if your guys getting screen time, my guys gonna get screen time. Europe is Roger Rubbers, lunatic, Bob Hoskins is of course a so one thing that's interesting about this- is that it mustn't necessary. Really be the movie that was based on real life stuff, because Roger Rabbit was based off a novel called who censored Roger Rabbit, which was written by Gary K, Wolfe, very dark and very different to the I had no looney tune, characters for example, and so that I'm wondering, if That's where the original political message about what you were so interesting talking about yeah on the po. Did you say you did you The bill Murray was the first choice to pay the Bob character. Utah, you just not bit maker than a rabbit. The rabbit look like a rabbit. He know they couldn't get out of here,

because you know bilberry has that famous thing where he refuses to have an agent. So he was Robert Zemeckis and Steven Spielberg's. First choice. They couldn't get hold of him and Bill Murray said afterwards. It was a real regret and he wished he could have done it and it does make you think, we'll get a starting agent, then mate, but yeah he's a member of the football skins. Instead, Roy. I did read reviews for who censored Roger Rabbit the first one at it's got my favorites opening line of a of a review here. This person said This would have been a decent airplane book, but I applying anywhere and is that this law to differences like in the book Roger up it actually is killed. and they have a really interesting literary device where cartoon characters are able to create a double of them selves immediately to do stunt double workin movies, so in the novel, Roger Rabbit is killed, but he creates a couple gangs who can last a few days, the longest gang or of any them who can also distorts the rules if countries are very different to the rules.

Real life at like what yeah my plans of jumping off that building Mesa. This I haven't seen who framed Roger rabbit, but I think they kind of explore this in the film that they there's a thing called the O'Donnell's laws of cartoon motion, which was in Esquire, and there are a few like rules that happen in cartoons which don't happen in real life, so any bodies and that in space will remain in space until made aware of its situation again. If they get everything false faster than an ample is another one and the idea being that, if your falling down- and so is number you,

flaw and then the amber will pay pal hand, though, is a guy called up Babbitt's? Who is not a Meda from Bolt Disney studios and he said and emission follows the laws of physics unless it's funny, otherwise I think they're mentioned. I leave you smell them. They something similar got things like. You know, tunnels that you throw into walls and that you have brought into the tunnel the call of the views that are you that if you follow the human you hit the wool yeah it's kind of thing said Bob Hoskins son didn't speak to him for awhile and he made who framed Roger rabbit. Do you know why it was because, though his son Jack was three at the time and Hoskins said in an interview a few years ago that when his son Jack found out, working on. He wouldn't speak to him for a long time and Hoskins was really upset, and after about two weeks, his son admitted that the reason he wasn't speaking to him was because he'd been working with bugs bunny and daffy duck the whole time and hadn't even introduced him to er. That's great

okay. It is time for a final fight of the show, and that is chosen sky. My fact is that the first ever wristwatch doubled up as a thermometer and yeah. I just really liked. This is like a modern day gadget Burton what sort of Small sir, is in regular role as James says: rectal. It was a wistful We still the monitor limit the monitor on the show your wrist up, your pop up. It was designed for very flexible people, so this was a watch that was design

and by EVA Ham. Louie break break away. Who was known as the father of modern reality. He was that of the leading person in watch, making in clock, making and watch making the turn of the nineteenth century, and one of the things he did work out. How to do was to stop changes in the temperature, altering clock mechanism so watches of time. Pocket watches cause wristwatches didn't exist yet watches at the time. If the temperature change would be a bit disrupted by that. So you could only guarantee the or what would be correct to within about two hours at the end of the eighteenth century and he created or thing like a thermostat inside watches, which would work out when the temperature? It's got to a certain point and adjust the watch accordingly, and so he thought well just add a little thermometer and things I'm sensing the temperature anyway, and so he made this watch and it was for Napoleon's sister, actually, the queen of Naples. She was called Caroline Muir at and he made an eighteen ten started, making it an eighteen ten and he delivered her in eighteen, twelve,

and yet it was the first ever watch and the bracelet was made of threat of hair and a little bit of gold thread of thread of her a few the threads of her. It was made of lots of threads with more than one threat. She had to think. Oh, my god, I found funded and how wristwatches was seen is really sort of feminine and not suitable for proper men was basic implication, loads. The history it was only in the foot, well boy. They really took off because it was very important for officers to be able to consult the same time and also a pocket watch has a pretty impractical in the trenches. I read an article in the Atlantic about the history of the wristwatch and they said that someone at the time when they first became popular after the war. Someone said vaudeville artists, a moving picture. Ratchet actors have utilized it as a fun maker as a silly ass fat, yea. Silly US

add the mismatch fools. Did you guys know about repeaters on watches, because I didn't really understand what they were until I was reading up on this, so this was a technology that was found on watches at the turn of the nineteenth century. It was on this watch that break a gave to and gave to the queen of Naples and what it was was. It was a way of telling the time in the dog if you wanted to tell the time, but it was dark, so you couldn't see a watch press little button on it and it were an alarm, go off the woods how do the hour and then how many quarters past our new pause you to tell the time to within a quarter of an hour. So if it was that say, five thirsty, it would give five times in a certain deep turn, and then it would give two times in in a lighter turn, which would show you. It was five o clock

to culture. Hours had passed us redundant, will watch. Is it this time hunt this its course repeated thing or half a pizza which would give a term of a state within half an hour, so Maisie everybody who I was at the design Museum last year and they had a watch arrests watch for blind people, which was, if I remember rightly just kind of look like a normal face, but it had these little marbles on it and they were my emetic and they moved around depending on the time, so you could kind of feel like a braille, a break, that's really cool! That's also, really incredible. I was reading about what we used to do before we had watches and clocks, because obviously I know about the sun dial bow to thinking like what, if you just in, if you went further back and

what people used to do in and spots of Africa used to do this? You would just you would know the the arc of the sun throughout the day. You know where it would pass, and so what you would do is you would point to a bit of the sky and say, let's meat when the sun's there in the sky when its reached, that bit of the sky and because they know the mapping of how the sun goes across so well, they would just note to look up and go out. it's effectively four o'clock I better go and meet MIKE. Now, that's that's how it works yeah. It was confusing, though, because if you point- and you say- let's meet there and he pointed somewhere where people go demean, then at that time, or was there that place I appointed to the sky so lower the election was a really mountainous region. I guess you're, so you just turned to the top of Mount Kilimanjaro. Do you like? It worries me

no most amount for seven virus. This reminds me of something that we ve covered on Cuba, which is about how it was hard to know the exact time in the nineteenth century. Even monsieur, didn't have watches, and there was one family in London who four hundred years made a living. How letting me Look at their watches, which is so causing rising. There's this woman. Food and Ruth Belleville and her parents and her father started the company in eighteen, thirty, six. They worked in Greenwich and so he'd set his watch to Greenwich time at the start of the day and then he'd get what is described as a buggy, which I'm not sure what that was, and eighteen, thirty, six and he'd drive around London and he'd have people on contract. Who would pay him in exchange for him telling them the time and she kept doing that shit up until nineteen forty yeah. I think you could

I get season tickets from them as well. Can you like it, be a bit cheaper and they'd come every week or something? And there was a guy called? Mr St John, when who and nineteen oh eight wrote to the times saying that her methods were completely out of date and it was ridiculous and he suggested that she was using her feminine, it's easy to gain business. Was she kept cleavage or something like so many others also did the less of it. I'm say dear the times you of all newspapers should know this guy Sorry, this guy said John, when he was a direct swift, stunned, tying company who happens to be one of her light biggest kind. Competitors. Do they make watches they were the people whose postal star in charge of standard time in London again make sense

but it gave a massive publicity sent the back of it. So actually business boomed for her. So and your face, Mr Saint John, was possible. when we lost, but so nice. In thirty. Six, though, is a big moment for a business in a bad way, which was the telephone speaking clock that really stopped a lot of business, but Only then it was voiced by lady and her name was hassle Cain and Ethel Kane lived in the exact same town as roof They were, they will. They were virtually next door neighbours. I bet they never spoke to each other. What a sit come within the outskirts, Accordin is where they both lives. yeah called attention, attention and uneven. It must have been palpable ass. You think it's amazing that sort of just to go back to wristwatches, very, very briefly that the sort of it was basically home.

Maybe it was what was going on with people who sang a people aware wristwatches are a feminist and not so not the right sort of people. So if you had a wristwatch, you be called a wristwatch boy, and people would say this about you. so really in an insult. Why yet another them so his something from the Alber Journal and May nineteen fourteen. Fellow who wears a wristwatch is frequently suspected of having lace on his laundry and abrading his hair at night, when it's pretty play the in New Orleans there was a where there was a play on and they said the main character is not portrayed by a wristwatch screen dude, but by a man's man. Well, I'm not surprised the dude being used in that area. Dude is nineteenth century really, rushing would yeah yeah yeah wow, but basically it took a first world war. Two to shift that perception. Should we wrap up soon, as she has a really cool story. It relates to what wristwatches

the original guy- and this fact- and this is about the Marie Antoinette Watch, which was another watch- the Abraham louie- break a maze. So this is coming by guy, he fancied Marianna turn it in seventeen. Eighty two and it was completed by brigades, son in eighteen, twenty seven. Forty four years after it an ordered thirty, four years after Marianna, when I had died in four years after he'd actually died, but it was unbelievably complicated. So still the fifth consider the fifth, my comp complicated watch, maybe maybe it's really really beautiful and it was honey on various generations- and I ended up in the Maya Museum of Islamic- ought in Jerusalem and nineteen. Eighty three, where it got stolen in that year, and so there was a big police on no one, could find where it was. This original watch may from area on twenty eight and then this guy could nicholas higher. Who is the ceo of the Swatch group which had taken over the brigade company said and ninety ninety nine that he was a time they make a replica, and so he went about making this replica and not even took a few years ago. That was commissioned to thanks

on four and just before the replica, was about to be completed and displayed. Then lawyer in America got a letter from a woman who said that she had to return a bunch of objects. Tat her husband had left in his will saying that he'd stolen them decades earlier and one of the subjects was the Mary Antoinette. So just as this replica was about to reappear the watch itself, That is why how great is that? Ok, That's it that's all of our backs. Thank you so much for listening. If you'd like to get contact with any of us about the things that we said over the course of this pod cas, we can be found on our twitter accounts, I'm on at Schreiber Land. James I'd shapes Andy at Andrew hundred M,

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