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That's right! You know that. Don't you re later this week, you ok on with this week, show the hello and welcome to another episode of no such thing as a fish, a weekly podcast, coming to you from the QR offices in Covent Garden. My name is Dan Schreiber, and I am sitting here with Andrew Hunter, Murray Annexes and Ski and Alex Bell- and once again we have- gathered round the microphones with our four favorite facts from the last seven days and in no particular order. Here we go starting with you Andy,

is that the original director of Jaws was a man called Richard Richards who was fired because he kept referring to the shark as a whale yeah. Don't read the script I dunno if he had read it or not, but they definitely yeah, because it's not when you say he kept referring to it wasn't even like loosely in conversation. He was in a meeting with the producers he'd written a treat when all the way through the treatment and then the way they produce Is another rights to turn the novel jewels into the film in them and they took him for lunch and I decided to let her go. Man again this bill. That's right, yeah, here's, a classic bit of trivia that I everyone. Who knows you always knows again. I didn't know that the shark has a name.

Not in the movie just onset on the back of his, which was Bruce wasn't me named after Steven Spielberg lower, that's right, yeah is named after his lawyer, who is cold, Bruce rain, nor and Bruce what became the name The shark on the I bet good name, though, isn't it for a shock about its nose, an australian sounding name, I think of shakspeare strategy and its the name. You know you're making that connection is the name of the shark in finding Nemo not too, that it must be. Absolutely is good thing. They didn't give it. The other nickname that answer, which was the great white flaws, because anything other well yeah. I've Milburgh basically rewrote the movie a bit because they couldn't get a hotel work. It was such a I had mechanical shock, which I mean you know if you're filming anything mechanical in salt water, it's going to be difficult, yeah, so the

They made three mechanical shocks. It so that they can come from different angles with different best. There had to be sixty people on a nearby floating barge operating different bits. if the shot, because holding was pneumatic had legend as a pipe to operate because they have motives which broke so they had to put pneumatic tubes and make it wet, which meant he had to have a huge like operating station if scan all had to work at the site, so they compared it to an orchestra in an article I read, so they all If we do the right things, sixty sixteen people at the right time, so it all works properly and sometimes, though, will be a bit Fifteen people get a right and a sharp comes out of the water as your foaming, but then its mechanical eyes a shot over that I have to go back and do it again and then something else will be working right or one of the things we want going on. If they given that mechanical eyelids, here is the island. It is jewels ever blink. We need to realise that fell. Casting a moment. There is no one. I wink gave a camera just before they wanted us,

The produces asked Spielberg to train a great white shark in it Wait for the dog that is so Hollywood yeah turns out. He can't do. That is amazing. He moved onto this. Did you know that for some of these shows in order to make the shot look bigger, they used a body double for the guy who plays the main character. They use the jockey. because he was really small, so they used a foot nine ex jockey to be in in the shark tank just to make it look that bit bigger, but that's a bit like removalist his films, like Casablanca of a house, small people wandering around the cut out of the plane in that famous last scene. In the background, because it makes plain- I got to know one of the main problems with Jos, the mechanical one. It's the jaw, The jewels are not right in the jaws of the thing. I think they know what was right for a shock or which would work. Then alright, for shock. They would work at various, but this is really interesting.

White sharks have a much weaker bite than you might suspect, the not weak, no one saying that way, but the jaws and attached to that had probably so the operator the separate, it's muscle and what that means is what they can do is approach you in the water and give you a test bite which is soft and then, if they like the taste of you and they think you'd be good. They come back for. kill b, so loads of people who've had the tangle with a great white shark on Skype, formerly been giving it a test b, we just still serious than you can still bleed to death on his knee, but they haven't been given the full, might I did I was it is really weird. I obtain a restaurant because then you walk off the rest once you give it to us, but under the jewels, obviously mechanical sought by dint of those two relations that is just a massive hedge and it's just it just nauseous away.

Darren Young. Why do they do the test by? Why? Don't they just go in with a big bias to save energy or something? Well, they might not like. Will they eat? You know they might if they might find. Oh, it's all for the boat, and I don't wanna wait the button. They might say. Oh I'll, go, find a sales agents that cause that'll blubbering delicious. I guess when you go mouth are big: you can committing when you're watching something you've got to do something with it. What if there's a tree floating in the water, and do you make a mistake if you go for a massive kill, bite and chewing on that you idiot yeah, whereas if you give it a quick test, NASA Traitor, I knew it was so here's something interesting when they first put the shark into salt water. It sank so when they were going to film, they had to retrieve it from the bottom of Martha's vineyard, and it's because it was salt, water and they don't they have protested, is in freshwater, okay, which they were expecting that it was going to work like it did in freshwater, but then it sank to the bottom. Which is the exact opposite of how a real shark would work? And you remember- I mentioned this- a few episodes go in the podcast. They don't the swim bladder, and so they don't often go into freshwater water, because

it doesnt work that so those sink in fresh water, but I don't understand so obviously, salty water is more buoyant so I thumbs understand what would sink was thinking saltwater that wouldn't sink in. Does it doesn't think this is one of those universal mysteries that no one knows by which I mean I don't know. I've got something so bizarre that, and of this, which is that it is related, I don't know why initially so polygraph tests are sold, very often across the? U S, let you can sell your polygraph testing services for various reasons and all the websites that advertise pornographic say you can use these four and in this list of the main things you use them for so long theft, Austin murder, robbery, infidelity assault and fishing tournaments, and it turns out. I learn this looking at these sharp catching tournaments and the idea is that you go and you have to catch the biggest shock. You possibly can

and one of the main uses of polygraph tests is having lie. Detect a test of these documents. checking people haven't cheeses yeah. This is what on Well, these lie detector websites. There are a lot yet murder, Austin, cheating, wives and fishing to one of the sheets in the show comes to your college. Talk show that will do what you do. Is there a shark salespeople who collects large sharks throughout the year and keep them alive, and then they float them to people? Who've entered the tournament on the fly. guys I've at the thought of it with a joy, shark, in your bag on the go and then slowly lower your jacket, bag searches originally come from the guy. Who was the guy who wrote the original book? He really regretted writing essay, Peter Benchley regretted the fact that sharks, that vilified via jaws and suddenly it said of this- fate of shock hunting in shock, murdering expeditions and shot populations.

America were reduced by up to fifty percent some people, not just because as of shark hunting. But that was a huge thing and it still happens today. These shark hunting tournaments caused by the fact that it created this bad reputation for sharks, obviously only kill about one person we two years, whereas we kill hundreds of thousands of them every year, Attica, something like one hundred million sharks per year, It's a massive number vending machines twice as many We had a shock in the corridors. I think the figures might start creeping up. Yeah. You could only get a Twix by reaching into the the

It is time for fact, number two and that is Alex. My fuck this week is that until the nineteen sixties, high speed trains in Britain would drop carriages off at stations that they weren't stopping up. So your trade is going along yeah and all the people in the back carriage wanted to get off at the next. Stop the trains, not stopping a high speed train is betrayal. so you have to run into the back carriage and then they just cut it off yeah. I don't think everyone would think would get in and sit at the vicarage, but you wouldn't run and jump, but they would uncouple the train as they were approaching. The station and it'll be a God in that carriage with a break, and then the carriage would just roll to a stop at station, which meant that anyone who wanted to go for that station could, but it wouldn't slow down the train. So what would they do within the carriage as the clever because the carriages were then be picked up by the next slow train that was coming through, so the hollow trains would actually get carriages. Added on,

is it only high speed trains. It seems like the most difficult trains to accurately drop of a carriage a station or during the high speed trains are going faster than the actual trains it's high speed is an express. Trains are not stopping at the stations. So when did they stop doing this while they did it for forty fifty years and then finished in the nineteen sixties, and now the replacement services when you get on a train and it splits into parts when you get station, so that's not so cool. So in theory, our grandparents should remember that If I lived in England, you know they might have been on one of the justice become writings how another thing you could do until the nineteen seventy seven if, from eighty ninety nine to the nineteen seventies is anyone on the train could cause the train to break, and this still happens in trains around the But now I think the DR override button. So I didn't there was a there's, a code that ran all the way from, and I were the drivers sitting and why the breaks out all the way along the roof to the back of the train and a call drops on each carriage and pull it, but what you have now

How is you pull the cord and the driver has three seconds to decide whether to override it? So if the driver sees the colds been pulled, three seconds to make a crucial decision of? Is it? Was Think for this emergency. I don't know what this emergency is. Probably because a passenger's done it, and I can't see it. You have a work, what kind of informal isn't, can he get in those three? So how does the hell exactly? I don't know, maybe he's running late. That can't be that things were coming into us action in a minute. That's right here it's a communication line with the passenger pulled the cord as well, so we can just shout really quick, because we're going to have time three seconds is most of my conversations with my father about thirty seconds yeah, we say everything we need yeah yeah. I was on a train to Edinburgh not too long ago and in the bathroom just above the toilets, there was a big red button that says: stop in the bathroom.

It is immaterial launching in one go down what you want, but you're honest was a train stop button in the toil interesting you raise the toilet thing because there's blog by someone who works in railways, he says that this is a serious problem with emergency button, because it is in the accessible toilets and people, often pullet thinking ass, the flush Yes, if you're an older person you're a bit confused or bit drunk, then it often gets pulled to flush the loo and then you've breaks the train. It's a one in ten train carriages in the UK, still jetsons toilet waste onto the track, one in ten. This was in two thousand and fifteen, so they all trying to replace them all by twenty twenty but it's still quite a large number of Ngos, whether assign saying don't flush as stations, but it's pretty medieval it's pretty medieval. Well. There was a massive report in Wales online recently in which they said it's disgusting. Look at all this excrement on the train tracks and they showed a picture of it, but then they pixelated everything you could possibly object to. So it's just a picture trying to track what

the others. Do they have a sewage system really doesn't go right, train or Amazon tanks. They fling it out over the countryside, whether not infrequently danger, when I say this could they not build underneath the tracks, just speaking of the excrement bits and not enough a well and a big train, in Nephi, yeah, you're, just gonna, lay the train on it's back on a massive yeah. Sorry, it's obviously way better than what I will leave it at that did. You know we used to have sale trains in this country. What's a sale, train trains with a sale and these existed as you'd. Imagine in kind of windy areas, so And in Yorkshire there was one there was one in eighteen, thirty, one one opened which took produce from the Strathmore Valley, which is in Scotland to Dundee. But obviously I had the problem if it's quite hard to tank,

brainwave control, the angle at which you're going, and so they have to have a horse trotting alongside it at all times to take over when the wind drops, because it's very difficult get every passenger duck. When the uhm guys. I know that in China. I remember I have that fact in the super early days of the podcast about they have wheelbarrows in Chinese we still don't know about so when they used to do that in China and as descriptions of it were, this guy would see a fleet of sales coming when he looks over a mountain top in a field and what was, is that they used to put giant sales on their wheelbarrows and let the wind to help them carry along ethnic lines. Yachts, amazing, isn't it you know the longest train of it was the longest running at the moment is in someone's native country. But if I was really celebrate, as will the gun, J

It's a M gun gun, so the Sunday service of a gun is forty. Four carriages is no point seven miles long. It's about a how. How far does that travel? Is it like? It only moved about two meters and then is it the next day. She knew how to train. I need to go when it will be. Very few are the wrong end of acres of tobacco it's done, and I am so if you build a car that long yeah, that's impressive, a train you just adding carriage is right is impressive effectively that could be much longer than I just added more mischievous freight trains are like five six countries. As long as there is a passenger data sent us. Yeah, but you need platforms long enough. That's the really, but those the unsung heroes concrete for a year as so, where does across right? So it's a proper I think it goes all the way from the north coast of the south

wow long route, yeah, that's so you'd need that you'd need that for variety of. Fun variety of fathers, bully rooms, and there there's probably a Barber'S- is probably a cinema. That is probably none of these things. Just maybe you'll find the context yeah he so angry. I remember that and remember his genuine knowledge. I said probably I know I mean that in itself is problematic. I probably really the balance of probabilities there will be. That probably is that possibly is probably is probably because there probably is desert the small chance that there are all of those things you just listed as far as we can go with this fact. I cannot do this.

illegal in Japan, there now building new trains that are invisible. No, no! No! Not. What they are kind of invisible that sort of almost invisible they've put this mirrored, sir. it's on the outside of it, so it blends into its surroundings. By reflecting so if you're going through nature, for example and you're surrounded by tree, he's blue sky green grass, all that sort of stuff. If that's on the other side of it, that kind of mirrors off the side of the train, therefore, a sandwich is going to be humped passengers like something. You must know that, yes, it is. If you're going on a nice countryside, walk on your footpath crosses over a railway than now you won't be able to see. Train was a separate collections idea. You just see yourself coming towards Euro highs remote areas running

It is time for fact, number three, and that is just a ski. My fight this week is that birds in cages hop in the direction that meant to be mine, grating very sad: do they do that only during migrating periods? Yes, This is the amazing thing about it. If you got a caged bird, that's migrating birds, then, as soon as the time comes, when it would usually be migrating fuss about it puts on all this body, fat cause. That's what buzz do? A lot of girls would double their body weight in preparation for the big migrations so upon all this weight and it'll get rid of it. Restless and friskin start flapping around the cage and then, when the migration period starts, it will then start moving towards the end of the cage that is in the direction of where it would be my guest sing and it will stop at exactly the time that it would have arrived at its destination we so perfectly times, but has now found exactly. Double his weight and combine the waiter and there's? No one wants to be just in terms of observation of that.

You will be c c the bird hopping that way, but it will reach the end of the cage. It's a good point is in so it doesn't just hang by the end of the cage the whole time right. Therefore, some people must observe the bird hopping the other way. Yes, though, I think it is that it will come, maybe wonder backwards a bit. This is actually not explained and loaded the source of the reference that, but what it does do is it faces in that direction. It will try to flaps wars that direction and then get rebounded off the cage. I guess I notice that what they do is they'll say on that perch facing the direction they're supposed to be going and they'll flap their wings a lot but stay motionless because they realize they can't get out of the cage it's during migration. Strong rebound. Do you know how they found out about this or one of the ways they found out about this is it with a device called an ambulance, funnel very cool thing. So it's a plastic enclosure with a paper funnel leading out from the top of that on the bay

It's the funnel is Inkpad, so you put the bud in the you cover the top of the funnel, so it can't just fly out and then you track the direction that moves and as it flaps it leaves foot marks in the ink on the paper. So you can tell exactly the direction it's moving and flapping in and they have the surface you have. You can project different star constellations on the top see if that has an effect cause. Sometimes they go magnetically, but sometimes they might do it. I looking at the stars above the horrible, that's like the Truman show for birds. It is yeah. Eventually they end up just writing messages in the ink saying, please, God somebody. Let me out once they discovered this, then people realize you could do these pretty next thermos to work out. It was that cool did both my grandsons directions. So is he sandy? You could change the constellations to see if the navigation Python you change the magnetic field,

around the bird's cage celibacy. They navigate they, the by of the earth, and so, if you put a couple of magnets content, you create create magnetic field around the birdcage and change the direction they think is north they'll suddenly point in a different direction. I heard on the radio the other day that whales that suddenly get lost in the ocean. They think it's actually down to solar flares, because the solar flares mess the magnetism at the early hit by massive one. So suddenly the whales speak put on a different course and that's why groups of them have been that's not a solid theory, but because they just trying to work out. Why seemingly healthy groups, whales get lost, Mason, just one more thing except related to this. There was that as it may, thing is firm and done recently into red warblers that were picked up in Russia and we worked out exactly how much bearskin tell if you change the magnetic failed, so scientists when they found him red warblers in Russia and they created a magnetic field around their enclosure. That mimics conditions

Aberdeen, and the weird thing about this is that the magnetic flavor of the oil refinery didn't held hard times recently, yeah exactly and whether spoons. So they did this. But the weird thing was that Aberdeen is on roughly the same line of latitude, so the same distance from the equator as the place in Russia where they'd studied the birds, and so you would have thought that for them, if they're just testing the magnetic distance from the polls- it would think it was the same place, but it turns out they can tell how far EAST to West they are as well. So was all they did was change the magnetic fields and the birds would usually point west. they migrate to Europe so South West, and as soon as you change the field, the birds swivel round, and they pointed east owing that therein Aberdeen and they need to point in exactly a different direction in order to get whether going to migrate to the very clever, very cool. It's some weird that we're missing this

thing that all these animals have so annoying I got nothing that even remotely makes us go. Oh, I can relate to that like it's, nothing, there's no sense of magnetism, the crazy. The thing you said about how they put on how birds put up loads of weight before they might Great suddenly got mythology to get through its amazing, even that organs grow and shrink This period was so all organs involved with feeding like the stomach and the and the ever and the kitty until they get bigger, to support the fueling process, but then went during the take off migration, those organ training and then they hopped on the flight muscles grow as configuration that changing the way the plane is built as they fly Soco is amazing. I should actually say the loads of what I'm saying comes from an episode of an our time, including headline facts which is on bird migration.

Just brilliant should look it up at all times, always good, yeah, sure, and when planet earth was coming out. The David Attenborough documentary I was sat watching Allister, Father girl, who is the programme maker behind blue planet and planet earth? I went to a chat that he did a sort of talk at the BBC and he was talking about his favorite. I meant being the moment that the birds had to migrate over Everest in order to migrate. They had to go over Mt Everest and it took every ounce of their energy. You get geese flying over money. Rest day. He gonna talk Mt Everest. If TAT taken all you ever see a flop, geese lying of you other using thermal sir? They flying they are flying. They never stop flapping their wings. They never lied, they never glide, they never I run. Even this only, I think what what is it a tenth of the oxygen find at sea level.

yup that high and they're still managing to fly all the time, so they aren't punting. Presumably, at that point we worked out that geese couldn't glide as in have we have we tried to make the ones of a stuffed a dead like what I need is like. Do scientists, knowing the make up of the make up of geese? No, they could do it. They just have worked out to do they just that. The company is presumably, if their up there and their wings are the inner they got wings, surely just spreading them must, by the light of this I think, reaches I don't really know they wouldn't be able to discuss. It goes revelation said the one could try to you. I say they cause evolution IRAN's every week there was once a liar. You dies always right what is going to be the answer.

Okay. It is time for our final factor the Show- and that is my facts. My fact is that each year, twenty six tons of clothing is left behind at the starting line of the Boston Marathon. That is one ton for every mile of the marathon. but why why we? Why people as taking up like that? when they get to the marathon. This is exactly what's happening. In the morning it's gonna be called, so they bring long tracking, is a sip up jacket or what and then, when the marathon starts, they take off the outer clothing so that their in the classic marathon run the clothing they just off it where they just drop it? Where it is? My native goes you rather back of American. You ve got huge, Whose job is really good boy? I think they chuck it to the site.

Is an article that was written about a person in America called Judy, Potosi and Judy Potosi used to help marathon runners if they needed somewhere some coffee and some tea and stuff, and he was just generally a helpful person loved the marathon and for years runners would be doing this. Just taking off those bits of clothing leaving on the ground and occasionally charities would come and collect some of them and bring them to charities, and in one year no charities came and they bagged up all the stuff. throw it in the trash and that really infuriated her cause. She said this is such a waste, so she's made it her mission to now collect all of these clothes and to begin with, it wasn't as much as twenty six tons. If it was even less, It changes all the time. The latest article, the article on specifically getting it from it, was twenty six that they managed to collect. Obviously it varies year by year. The exact quote from her is now I have to in one volunteers, we cover all the way to Ashland town line and we've ve up to fifty two thousand pounds, which is the equivalent of twenty six

Ton spot is amazing and the reason it's gone up dramatically is because they used to be a bus service right at the end of the Boston Marathon. That would bring you back to the start, so people could collect. The clothes on the cancelled the bus service. So now all of these clothes- people go. You know just leave it there, so they now like these all and they given to charities and re so much money but yeah, must be a win awareness thing as well, though, if you run you know, what's going to happen to the class, so you think well, I might as well bring legislates, and I I can't believe running math is hard enough without having to admit to yourself that you have to lose an entire outfit. in the process and also on the kind of unlikable person who would definitely throw my clothes aside, bear in mind throwing them and then walked back a bit later to pick them up and be pretty erudite percentages assay down by that point. So there's a thing about the bottom earthen, which is that its food

It's a very good run, as is, and obviously all marathons have, a very good runners, but only the fastest amateurs get in and qualify. So there is a guy. His name is Derek Murphy's, an american man, and he is the marathon enthusiast and he's made it his life's work to spot people cheating in marathons from hundreds of miles away. Hundreds of miles away, yeah he's got the incredible telescope, but it's only twenty six miles, some really elaborate she's in going on when you run the other way round the world. So

did the BBC to the profile of him. He has this blog called Marathon investigation and he started wondering you know whether people cheat to get to qualify for the Boston Marathon to run another marathon. Would you have to do and he looks at suspiciously fast times and he looks at photos taken during the race to see if he can track people down so he's called people, who've used other people's bib numbers or he's caught people who perhaps missed out stages throughout, but he has also vindicated at least one person why the authorities thought that runaway seating and he managed to find the evidence to say no, I don't think it's possible, cheating isn't it. Why is he I mean? I really support the vigilante justice cases. I suppose, but is this a major problem in morality and crime, If you support Batman, you should support this. Guy is what I'm saying is like We also down greater than its doing so in ninety.

eighty there was a woman called Rosie Ruiz who was declared the winner of the of the of the marathon and but then was it was later found out that she taking the subway for part of the way. Round. Here no one noticed tat ducking out the marathon falling into a subway states and we have always think someone's ducking together cells, the dream, cool or docking altogether yeah bring like. Actually this is not be lined all the way, can is nineteen eight as well. I maybe it was just last organized, but I think suspicious. That is when you come out with this, We enjoying the race, that's the crucial, It's true that yeah I read about a lady cause. You know you can go off trail and a Florida woman who became lost during a half marathon when she just took the wrong corner and said she was nearly twelve hours later in the middle of a twenty five thousand acre park, just completely lost at what point do you think you stop running? the. Is it obvious to that you've. You now no longer running the marathon yeah

I think she just thought she was way yeah. I didn't know that you know that you have to wear that one of those bibs when you run a marathon yeah, they have trackers in them and they have mats across the marathon cool water which electronically lock you making particular checkpoints along the way that is an old age. Anyone who's ever run a marathon. Those that I had no idea by finally computes again when you get hijacked points exactly yet and so sometimes that's why? If I did find cheetahs if the bib missed out several checkpoints yeah, so another she said it was a woman called Catherine's, wiser hooter, maybe you'll, try with a telescope might want to get on to her. She was a woman and she, He tried to run the marathon in nineteen sixty seven and she registered with just her initials, so it was gender neutral, so it wasn't known that she was and she ran the marathon.

And people were quite supportive in the crowns. But then Jock Semple, who is the race official, was really against the idea of women running people thought women were way too fragile. It kind of muddied the masculinity of the sport for men. and so he stormed onto the track and tried to drag her off it at which point her boyfriend came and kind of defended, which is a little bit annoying from them feminist perspective, but her boyfriend came on and push jocks ampler the way and she finished, and then I think that her is that this year was the fiftieth anniversary of when she did that, she running again. pretending to be a man technically speaking, she wasn't last winter. Yes, yes, yeah! I I say she's, the bad guy in this story, yeah the furthest away. I guess that America has ever been run off the course, since we are talking about at Williams, who's in Knox astronaut and she ran it while she was on the international space station, and would argue she was going way faster than anyone else, because she was oh yeah time. Does it

but the bandit marathon, which is that loads of records get broken on that marathon calls and not for you Pull on the London one or the Kuala Lumpur, one or the Boston one, and there are all these reasons which combine to make Berlin one of the best places to break a speed record. So it's really flat There are very few corners is never more than fifty three meters above sea level, so lots of lovely oxygen and it's in September, which is quite a good time of year, cause the weather's not crazy, and it's mostly an asphalt, and so there are all of these different combination, factors that's cause buyers make it worth Boston, the Boston Marathon goals. The this line is so much lower than the starting line that it is ineligible for world record attempts no because you're running down here. I think they're running downhill, way. Why? Don't they just move it? Then?

I'll put it the other way around yeah record. Breaking the Boston marathon is quite interesting. Things in twenty ten, a guy broke the world record for the Boston marathon. His name was Robert K, Sherry, oh from Kenya, but he broke the record that was set previously by a man also Robert K. By complete my right. He must have changed his name. No, no. I mean I maybe later more commonly, maybe it's a bit like a John Smith. name or something, but that's amazing, so the first african purse, and so when the Boston Marathon won it in nineteen. Eighty eight, I guess, probably because logistics got easier for people to enter that point, maybe from abroad. So nice and Asia was the first african person to win. It was Abraham Hussein from Kenya. Since then, there have only been three winners who haven't been kenyan Ethiopian, know the oldest one, oh,

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