Dan, James, Anna and Andrew discuss 11th century rental eels, Nelson's lesser-known brother, and how to break into Alcatraz.
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A warm and welcome to another episode of no such thing as a fish. A weekly podcast, coming to you from the queue offices been covered gloried in my name is
and Schreiber I'm sitting here with Andrew Hunt unmarried and it has escaped and James Hearken, and once again we have gathered round the microphones. Therefore favorite bags from the last seven days and in no particular order. Here we go starting with fact number one: that's my facts might,
It is in ninety. Ninety six, a wind surfer, successfully broke into Alcatraz prison while it was hosting a movie premier of the rock a film about people trying to break into Alcatraz, thus get what you say about you broke into the prison. This guy called Jeff Bunch.
And he was a windsurfing who is on the outskirts of and he wanted to go so he wore sort of tuxedo over his his what suits and he got
over his well. I know that that weird right, I guess he didn't platinum falling in seeking a in you dry,
I guess some is the idea that is sensible action
yeah, because he is actually, but does it the wrong way? Doesn't he like he has wet seek over his tuxedo cedar has to go to the
Changing the pound. Put it at the site is what c and is actually does make any sense of the word. It doesn't stop you guessing what underneath launch they won T reveals a tuxedo James Bond. It should be drenched yeah. I sides wonder that seen in the movie,
just made it back that size,
I did at the right around the union's against Hermia yeah. He wanted to go.
The premier and supposedly he did. He was arrested and taken off premises, but he said he managed to get a cocktail which shone Connery, though I haven't seen the rock and what I know.
Gaza is Michael Bays best film. Do you.
well I gather that, in the light of the crowded field of other fills Michael by,
another set of transformers three. I know I don't know it's a controversial opinion. I've read everything saying is, I think, a swallows because
That is an icy love. It yeah it's an also movie and I think it's his favorite movie that he's made all eyes or as they got sixty six percent of rotten to matters which to me is definitely
where's the other day. That is an absolutely trial, Michael based, loving today, its awesome. Ok,
so it is not a national economy and it has apparently Navy seals trying to break into the island in the film and they use real Navy seals in Europe and an absolute so just for anyone. It doesnt mobility, which partly no wonder the idea is that many many years ago someone successfully escaped from Alcatraz and he was put in.
And when you call on the other side, you ve been in solitary confinement for years and suddenly the rock, as is known,
is taken over by a bunch of military people have gone rogue, so they need to break back into it and they in they get this guy shown country out of jail to help them back in,
escaped, that's the basic premise: sign and ratify the Rockies in it. The rock is not in it
the island plays the role of the rock perfect.
How could trials is known, as the rock this party says, really cool? Actually, there were five hundred guests and they were told to dress informally. Is the curtains were not?
I read in the S S gate
Patricia CAT was there and she
wearing a chocolate Brown three quarter length setting coat with matching pants by don't change a banner and an adequate silk blouse, matched her iridescent
shadow. Why so? That was her dressing in full and shown? Cutlery was wearing a ton. Paca, a fisherman sweater, a no to pay
No, it's not it's it s. A guy that's addressed downright you'd, never get asked on the red carpet and who is to pay wearing them
He was a tiny little funny facts over and about the actual making of the wrong. The script was done,
but they brought in some writers to sort of punch up the script, Adsum jokes, but also to disagree.
it's in the two people they brought in with the guys who wrote porridge. The british
allow the Michael Bay Action and yet the creator of the likely lads taken into thought as soon as yeah. That's great. So the rocket
I trust that this is not the only time that a former criminal from outcries has gone back to it, as it happens fictional.
And the film, but it's happened in real life as well that pretty sure the Whitey Bolgia he was a yank staves involved in lots of matters, not nice guy. He was that for years when it was operating as present and then later on, he went back as
poorest you whenever the girl Friday and he Adele friend. Yes, are you
back to my old home, whether there
that old tourist after he dressed up in a striped uniform
I had a photo taken behind a set of replica buzz valleys
When was this cause? He was wasn't it.
in the ages and think it was in the late sixties, early seventies anymore, rose in the sixties and sixty two.
Airbus extraordinary disclose. Ok, but he went back obviously later when it was a tourist attraction. I wonder what date you bring up that you were
about Alcatraz, open and nothing is on the agenda, but quite right or else because he would, if you were going out, was only been Alcatraz. That would be a really cool little thing to say about your boyfriend: wouldn't it and they want to go there and experience
you think, that's a cool things. My boyfriend's was Alcatraz. The most secure
but the worst of worst criminals is not actually for the worse worst criminals. That is,
bit of misconceptions that not only the first thing I said about my boy comes from the outset that we always try to border was voted. Nineteen murders
not even a minimum security,
maybe I didn't go to the third day. Some of them would just tax avoidance, Al Capone, so this is it does Israel Mixed
jealousy privilege. The thing with the Alcatraz was really was a prison too.
people who are in other prison soon get some kind of trying to break out on misbehaving, pulling pranks on the prison officers. That kind of thing polling, price rank is like trying to kill them. So that's why it's kind of
amusing. I dare in height, is basically thats what I
boyfriend whitey, I would say more
he's more than pranks. There really is about guilty of seventy two products, so is basically,
and of people who had experience of extra escaping from other prisons. So, in fact, I think the most famous escape probably was frank,
forests and John and Clarence Angling, and they inspire the film escape from Alcatraz than nineteen seventy nine film
and they got out in nineteen sixty two, but they don't come there because they d, scaped or attempted to escape other prisons- and there I mean they're escape- is a Grendel is a mess. I guess it's on believable, so I just read the count of Monte Cristo and I thought this is implausible everything he does to get out, but they so they chipped, whether cell
pools with spoons for ages, and then they would conceal their work with kind of painted cardboard access. Somehow they did. They made an
improvised drill from a vacuum cleaner which that how do you do that
and they disagree with some other disguise. The noise of the vacuum cleaner, working as a drill by having one of them play the accordion the whole time they should have played the spoons. But what has been was busy.
They got whose letting them get all this stuff, though
let the accorded it, I think, is the big question you know like you play that show spoon fine, but they had a ban. There like Al Capone, was part of the banned as one of the famous prisoners.
Yet. I think he was on banjo, something like he was. He started the ban the thing, so this was way way before this.
Gate was an the third when all components that is very long
we banned, I guess it,
easy to Theridion told that we all still about things like silk of is constantly reiterated
so's. I move more on this scale. We can get to the end of it all. They had prepared machine. They made Pepe machine heads of themselves
and they made it had not. They didn't, have actual papua. They had to use toilet paper in soap and they made these. They sculpted
heads of themselves, early covered them in real hair, which they got from the prison, barbershop, brilliant yeah, so get they stole over fifty raincoat
Donna, whether getting fifty rank, or at least all these ranges, and they made them into makeshift life jackets and they vulcanised them properly, using steam pipe in the prison there
this out from some kind of magazine. They are smuggled in
They also, I think, converted, one of them into a life raft and the party they converted
musical instrument according to the FBI, into a tool to inflate the life. Out of you too soon
accordingly, squeeze it up and down daddy outside the wanton. Isn't that prevail here, you blog that they cannot be that's the whole point of musical instruments, as they all make a noise past win through them.
I went on the FBI website and they said that they officially close
the case of December thirty, first, nineteen, seventy nine about this escape, but they have to.
Responsibility over to the? U S: Marshall Service, who continue to investigate. So if you at home,
Any leads informations share about this escape from an eighteen, safe, its aid. Then please call that's a: U S, Marshall, Michael Dyke, on that for one five for three six, seven, six, seven so
Did you hear what he thinks they made a hit
submitted to the mainland, definitely and that they made it like, as some people think, the raft which was made of raincoats, and it was also made of cement
was the other ingredients are often rakers in cement, but heavings they got away.
and the family.
the angler brothers to the escaping. They think that they attended that mothers funeral waiting
yeah, because their mother died several years later, but obviously the funeral that was places crawling with it
I ain't that they think they might have attended dressed as women
all three of them will be pardoned, but only if they make it to the age of a hundred, though, is a team
the scientists who did some computer simulations about whether the rafts would have made it to the mainland. They launched fifty virtual rafts every half hour between
p m at I am by looking at all the tides that would have happened at the time and from
fr locations on the island and they found the if they left it exactly midnight on the night. They might have made it. They would have been sucked out towards the Golden Gate Bridge, but at the moment they were close to the girl
and gave the tide would have reversed, and that would have sent them to the north side of the bridge and they would have been able to get to the land
and that's the only specific time, every other time they got set out to sea, but this is a
that they want just their controlling the Ross right. Yes, they did actually put into the computer that they might be able to do some staring.
Ass, an old they made a couple of all have a couple of hours, but they were both made over.
on the escaping via the only method through the through the ocean. There was this
theory that so our trans was meant to be actually quite pleasant experience in terms of food in terms of their showers. They had hot showers, prison prisons. Don't really have that presents a strong worse, we should clarify. Well, maybe it is not. It wasn't such off
oh yeah, you got your own, so we actually was according to a bunch of people written about it since having come out saying that that's really pleasant experience, not a bit about you know. What I'm saying is it's like pleasant experience compared to being imprisoned is not yet here is not
An objective in places like saying that the rock is a good may be compared to the other Michael baby. Yes, ok, I know that you know you know what a had hotshots with this is TAT was what say you because of the ocean. So the theory was
that they were so use too hot water that
they go into the ocean. That would immediately give them hypothermia
can be used to as opposed to called showers. Getting them used to a cold. Swim is swimming Sophie
the swamp. So I think in our when was it was the year before the prison opened actually
seventeen year old girl, swam in forty seven minutes well and she's, not even the youngest has no done, obviously need to be very lucky with the current and the tides is pretty treacherous, but in two thousand and six
seven year old boy, swam. It now also in forty seven minutes in the crazy wildly.
Maybe it's like you know when you go to a water park, and is that right?
You just sit in a ring, and it just takes you around than exactly forty. Seven minutes seems like that must be just a car. That switches once a day which is pretty much helps as some of the people here and Alcatraz. The bustle bang heart he was,
known as the owl, because he got big eyes. Ellsworth,
Raymond Johnson was known as bumpy because he had a bump on the back of his head and Joseph Bow
It was known as Dutch because he was born in Austria,
Z. They they heard
we Europeans is data,
ok, it is tied for fact number two, and that is Andy factors that Horatio no.
had a brother whose name was suckling. Nelson
so you're, not the most heroic of the Nelson siblings. No feels like
he was given a short shrift in life
wasn't. Haiti I getting, that name definitely was never going to become the
a well. Maybe me
was the only one who is breastfed. Do we know if that was the reason that was not the reason miserly
the great here. So this fact actually comes from friend of the book of Carrier, Lloyd, ascended. To me saying you're. The only person who will find this interesting great so is because of the second side of the family. So
his mother was called Catherine, suckling, ok and she had a radical Morris suckling, and so there was
Nelson was one of the eleven children, eight of whom survived vital heads, a lot of siblings, nothing they're running about short of names and sucking was
one of the last brothers born and he was not very
impressive. I think so.
Does it they're almost no reference at him in biographies have now said. One of them just described them is the fact that suckling,
use a struggling, vicar, yes and got him a job. He was a rape in battles who try to be a draper but failed, and then he became a vicar when his father, he was a bit
retired and came the vicar, and then he died a few years later and I dont think is right:
those two Horatio Nelson, because Horatio
to his wife in seventeen. Ninety nine- I am not surprised at my brother's death, three
daddy younger than myself
the response to the death of his brother? God he's going quite young, and actually his father's, their father wrote to Kitty who was Nelson sister about suckling. He will no doubt pass amongst a crowd of undistinguished preachers and gain some respect.
The village from his quiet disposition his liking to a little conviviality and his passion for greyhound racing, Hocus, Pocus, eternal
or roasted whole guy dead for ages brought back. Finally
by a carrier for limiting them
Taken down again, the name suckling came from
the surname of the family, which comes from.
the word to suck and in
Sometimes it was about physical or patronymic name of endearments says like her
have the setting darling and all those oppose
Good Sir John Suckling, yeah yeah yeah yeah. You know I was reading about Sir John Suckling and he's related directly, so use english poet erect ballot upon a wedding. He also is credited as having invented the card game crib.
early yeah, I studied such unsettling at school.
Did you guys want at this critical, the cavalier poet through a lot of some roistering lads who are all in favour of King Charles? I think you ve mentioned him before. I think I m per barrel upon a wedding, contains one of ie: is an early masturbation took place at a medic, yet other is not in the service. Do you have the joke
I think it is talking about how beautiful bride, isn't it saying that if so hot I had
I think it saying that if that is the groom hoods heads had slept with the if
is with where the bride, as often as all the sort of invited male friends had imagined themselves doing it,
it would have spoil him Shirley
well yeah. I must jack
yeah because they're all imagining that that those living with, of course, sorry anyway, you may say
probably the most eminent of the. I is thanks to the suffering
Nelson went to see in the first place because it was the
uncle Morris Suckling, who
when Nelson's mother Catherine died, no was only eight or ten years old is quite used very young and uncle
said well, take one of the children of your hands, and that happened to be Horatio.
then more got come out of a ship and Nelson wrote. Him saying take me to see please I want to get as they aren't gonna ventures. That's how we got into the navy. He could have been a dream.
the car behind a missed opportunity of such amazing curtain. You could have column,
the thing about his mouth
that he remembers. I got his mother died when he was nine. So I like these skirted around that with eight intact between eight, and so I think
his mother died when he was either eight nine ozone and he sent you remember. Tat well declined, remember well, but then the only concrete thing is that your Mehmet about her was that she hated the French
Is the whole thing just an attempt to places mom, it's me
It was not very impressive.
in adulthood I mean to took two crowds.
observation aspiration area so crowns the legal
but she was in a very short
the german onlooker crowd said a moment,
terrible collection of bones and wasn't frame. I have never yet come across how I know nobody had the crap kicks
out of him at war I mean you're. Loans is often only less than I am, and I like this is in the gallery who, with you, never had a honey? I let you go
sit down the outside the gun. You you come said: Inga atop off, I didn't think each didn't
although he was very good, his own piazza, the other six bag. Andy
who invented the phrase, the Nelson touch too
Does that mean it's it's about having some kind of brilliant naval strategy and people use it? Did you not even today, yeah yeah? It's a phrase is not used much outside navies. I think,
if we talk about Lady Hamilton,
now listen stuff. So Nelson was married too funny and
but then decided to leave her Emma Hamilton, who was my
so Wm Hamilton at the time.
Nelson, was sending love letters to Emma Hamilton Boats, William
Hamilton, knew the Secretary of State for foreign affairs, so was
opening all of his mail, I'm reading, whatever he was saying and sending it to the government. So whenever he was sending letters like
to Emma Hamilton say like I kissed you fervently, we enjoyed the height of love Emma.
pour out myself to you now husband was reading
that stuff, and I guess skimming over it and get into the important. So he completely new about the whole thing, but
They ended up living in some kind of wit, manassa to my Lydia same house. Was it land they think pretty
open by the end of every kind of cool with it was very modern city. Full seven fanny seem not have too much of an issue, and
I had a really unhappy. Marriage is one idea, so I think it was probably
both of them money bothered off with the lady if they kept the family. So if she could be called funny, suckling tat would have been
rain. Wouldn't it actually is well Emma Hamilton used to call funny Tom TAT ass if she could have it.
how business I click a link. That was because I was really not very nice, so she suffered from rheumatism in her legs and supposedly what a bit like a bird, and so am I
Hamilton being a bit, not very nice Cassie, it's a bit
Rebecca body. Isn't it I wouldn't really random thing about funding has been so before she married Nelson. She was guardian to these three children, who were the kids reply,
patient owner, who was away in the caravan with his wife and two,
and his wife returned. Funding has been looking out for these kids and Fanny Brawne. Three kids in to say, hey is his daddy.
an t said who enough of these children,
she Fani said good God. Don't you know them in Odin recognises own kids that your children,
So neither of the couple had recognise their own children and it said that his wife was so surprised that she set her head dress.
fire and a nearby that story
It's like you, come home, you don't you must know. You have three children who use event. Three children start in front of a process of data,
signal and I thought she hadn't figured it out
as a staunch does she set her address on five deliberately as a protest against the looks of these other gi staggered back into a Campbell. It's not
is written in less by her husband and he doesn't specify he just says she's address on fire person amongst us,
it is like an episode of Miranda
You know the hardy
kiss me hardly mentioned before, with his dying words kiss me haughty to one of his officers. The haughty later became first,
the admiralty he did really well
but this is amazing. The Nelson's and the parties are still in touch
family yeah. So there was a dinner party.
Ninety. Ninety animals, woman, echoed Mary offer she descended from Nelson and her husband,
talk to any of the other guests and said all this is my
she's, a descendant of Nelson
the person they were talking to Robins Dataset, that's funny and descended from hardy, and they got back into
that way, while not having known each other, I ve been in touch since then
became really good friends and the time is right about at the time said. Missus author, who lives and woven in Bedfordshire, confirmed that the two descendants continue the families tradition of kissing nice. It sounds like
so an excuse for them to have an affair. I think is that
does that inequality and she's that kiss me hardy and then they crossed the table and snags and the husband can't say anything because I just reacting the historic seemed well. I think that's really
story? Okay, it is time for fact number three, and that is James. Ok,
but this week is that in the eleventh century, hundreds of people
UK pay the rent in eels? Okay, so
this is a website run by a guy called John, why it's greenly he's a historian whose work
according to his sight, examines a cultural history of eels in England, from the tenth through this
saint centuries, focusing,
on eels role in economic change, the growth of a national
which identity
evolution of spatial practice in early modern, London, and that was a quote those a lot longer than I thought it, but he has
but where he looks at rents that were Paden eels, and this was a thing that happened probably before the tenth century. But that's where we have the records from Princess Doomsday Book records payments like the village of homespun who owed o Hugh seventy five thousand eels per year, whereas mush dead or alive. I think dead,
it's hard to collect as they live. It is easier to collect, though it is, the color
That's all you have the return daddy. It's on the flaw at ten levels. In a bucket, let's say you can pick them up, quick,
it's easier to collect ideals, but is harder to find them. I think how does finds daddy's it's all before
The longer the natural sites is alive together.
presumably that ill farmers right is not people going round the look of it. So far you got farming eel conformity of conformity. You know this.
So basically people catching them
and then selling them up market and then picking them up, I'm using the most kind of currency, and they were that cause they sticks. So you got twenty five eels on a stick. So when you have to give some five thousand,
feels it would be worth three thousand sticks.
It was like a big fan of candy for us or something you take a stick of eels yeah,
unlike awaited Manuel Barroso, about the little one they will ring collective. So keen on eel well was that you did not food yeah. It is
phase. So John White Greenly says that the reason that
looks into this is actually you look in the doomsday book, those payments in pigs and fish
now you might pay in different foods and drinks cause if you dont have cash. You know it's a thing
everyone has. But people these days are really particularly interested in AIDS
as we don't really eatables anymore. So when you
can a less than it says. Seventy five thousand ails you go plenty. How did you get thirty? Five thousand eels rob you got
Neil, I am now breakfast at the weekend. Did you really like to? But we don T
eels anymore? I I know even I had complex, but
saying is less common plus I didn't have yes. Seventy five thousand deals
but they used to be a maybe it was just. There is a lot more. So I think of the biomass of european freshwater. Some parts of it was made of,
your kill the olden days while
the ultimate aim of an exactly at the around this time. An EAST Anglia to back in the days before the friends would drained was, was very rich eel territory. You know you'd go boating.
around the waters and this guy job
on Y, a greatly he's brilliant yeah, his marriage is twitter. Name is surprised. Eel historian
our graffiti for him says surprised a not surprise. Deals
that is a medieval is that Corner University and he is he's got a map, is an interactive map of the UK and you can look
and you can click to see where your nearest local eel right
was an island to its about four miles from where I grew up. Kingston there was
friend of a hundred twenty five eels. Why
such as ready interest. My closest was Manchester nice,
I didn't. I just was busy looking at his replies to that tweet so successful. He was like all my god who would have thought eels,
but ass. It was a surprise. Deal hysteria he's done a kind of calculation of what use will get you today in today's money. So he said the doktor cause he's gonna university. If you had to pay to go to compel university, you would need between
a hundred and six thousand six and twelve two hundred and thirteen thousand and twenty for eels either
It represents a number of years that the Canal verses Office is ill prepared to hand over an Amazon prime membership, which is ninety nine.
dollars a year would cost only a hundred and fifty two.
Three hundred eels us about six to twelve sticks of eels.
I really didn't know that you cannot eat you roll
again. Institution is justified that this was very about. If you d, you gotta ensue. She don't you you do
and always cooks so because, if you use it for its got toxic blood and its cause, because
your muscles, despite including your heart and guts is got enough talks in that it can kill a human being.
if all the blood of any all you'll die? While you deserve
That's a that. If we're saying eels not eaten that much here these days in Japan, it's obviously massive, they have an annual consumption right of a hundred thousand tonnes of eels that seventy percent of the worldwide.
catch well, we got yeah, but Dave declined in their pocket
patients, so massively some like genuinely ninety nine percent, like that's how height is so they now have to import eel glass eel and so one from America in order to
each, but also as a result, because their manufacturing great sushi out there that get sent back to America, the marrow
in the sending their eels over to their habit, sent back to eat
It's taken too plain rights by the time. They reason that's kind of nice in a way because eels in their migration I used in my gracing thousands of kilometres. They have this extraordinary migration. So it's maybe it's nice,
humorously there still migrating thousands of miles back and forth. To thing that's a little bit of consolation for the aerobics are no population decline is amazing, so the temporary bans that have been put in place in the UK and it's a lot to do with dredging of
the ocean as well. This is really just decimate the population, but they
patch in the Sargasso Sea, which is West Indies,
why the meta, nor is it
and it's not see it's a portion of the North Atlantic. Isn't it deserves a portion of the Asian, but then they do
over on the Gulf stream whenever really tiny, and then
borrow into river mouths and and and things in the UK and across Europe, and then they state
for twelve years,
Some of them can live in a pool for up to thirty or forty years, living there and getting bigger, and then they
Suddenly they feel the cool they swim back. The Sargasso Sea, this point that I was we
thing no one's ever seen. It happen, no one's ever seen and ale sports rights, it's insane so in the
These people, like plenty and all those other types until seventeen hundreds gonna thought they came from nowhere am I caught. You still think they do, because you know
in Lisbon, we found young.
eels very young eels born in the Sargasso Sea haven't way, and then we ve got the old eels that look totally different by the way
in Europe and America, but that's it, and the constantly changing color so when they spawned they looked like these tiny, like glass leaves, and then they become transfer
glass eels, and then they turn into like noodle. Looking things they go, Brown then they go. Yellow
then they go silver. Is this? We kind of disco effect,
and silver is the one where you know that they can start heading back to the soil ass. I see to die and feel the cool. We don't know that we don't know
I do know that if you farm and Neil, which account do these days
a humble, but if you like, have unequal farm on you raise them that so they were born there. They
still have the instincts returns, the Sargasso Sea, which is kind of embedded in them. Somehow so did I
Could I just jamming that heads into the edge of the pond in the direction of the Sargasso idea that might do that kind of thing that really clever
the way they migrate as well. So now we have fight scientists not have actually tax them.
Bizarrely, they have managed to take them all the way into the migration club. They just not looking close enough for the span of eye, and I reckon if we go to the saga souci. Yet why don't you can see this born? You ve just never seen the eels spoon it right.
The wound, there was one danger scientists who spent fifteen years of his career, looking in the MID Atlantic for seven millimeter long and let them
I may never said yeah, but that I mean that does feel like you.
Then a very useful, surely look for the bigger ones on their way back to our gases.
You would let me see now. Look at the spot on many key
Looking at an earlier at an earlier time and then look at the bigger ones later in later times, eventually the two things must come together, guys it must be harder than
looks unwise and show these people of anyway. So I was just saying that that we we have tax them now, so they take them for about the first fifteen hundred kilometers of their journey.
And what they found out is, if you type a european ale, when it's going back to spawn it, doesn't make a bee line. This August
say it doesn't do the shortest route it heads bit for the south so has towards like what the Azores would be an that's, because that smart enough to know their own currency that they then pick
like a conveyor belt- and they are getting them not fast- and that certainly was a guest seven year old boy of Alcatraz included is amazing and they can just sit in it. Not doing so, we ve been looking as to how they scorn for centuries.
right, but it was only in the early
nineteen hundreds that that was found, and it was this guy that you talking. That was a danish biologists. Johan Schmidt heap, he was the one who pinpointed the Sargasso is the spot that they were doing. It ends.
He was looking into him. He was married to a lady called cool
studied under mangled warming.
Harry nine. I society and so cool was the daughter of the cop, the old Carlsberg Brewery in Copenhagen, the chief director there and actually the whole thing. The reason we know about the spawning is calls bark itself sponsored him to go and look for it. Sets thanks to Carlsberg. Beer
we know about. Was he the fifteen years guy yeah? I was probably not the best
I'd civic study and then and then
other guy warming is a danish. Botanists too, is a founder of the scientific display of ecology, his the relationship of man and earth, his cold,
Something which is quite nice, guys are really
good scientific facts up like you, there is one report
the case of a male dolphin masturbating by wrapping an electric he'll around its penis? How do we know as masturbating? He was thinking about
circling. Why did it ejaculate? At the end,
I have this is if anything else is to personal a question. So even if the dolphin is going to tell us it's been masturbation, then we want the details. I dont know
You are quite right. The ale might have been trying to asphyxiated. Penis, indeed, will have
excellent thinking. It's another real. I dont know what happened speaking of
members ways eels rap.
Around them at length. There is an
old tradition and the friends of England of using a wedding ring made of eel skin.
There s another way you can,
a bit of ale, around itself to symbolise love match yet flimsy yeah
none of us the ring for life, but it's maybe maybe ring users but ceremony. I got someone you feel like you're. The first husband kind of thing
ok in his time. For our final factor, the show- and that is just and ski. My fact is that, according to polynesian mythology,
Maui, who is the God and the Disney film Miranda died by climbing into a go
this is vagina and being crushed to death by the obsidian teeth in the
and they didn't show the failure. We went to Disney. What's that film, German, because we were
by MILAN lets, you guys were quite like an end, because you needed to remedy. Had sir sino something I see MRS stop at me, I went and without side in a nation,
That seen, are you out of the deaths in other topic and then the rest is a flashback. So if you did miss that first
of the film hold a film. You should know that this is the film Havana and modalities of Demigod side kick in. The film is Molly, who was a real God or important, got, and no demigod in Pacific mythology
and he exists all over the Pacific Islands so like in Hawaii he's very important but to Haiti's Samoa them.
Three people: they will have slightly different versions of him, but there is
version, where he's real trickster character ranks but he's a brain studies.
Whitey, Bolgia or Al Capone. Yeah he's a prank sound asked me
throughout history,
in writing on. He doesn't majesty he's just a little pranks too, and
one of the ways he dies is one he's trying to become immortal, and the way decides to do this is to
enter the goddess of death. Who's got him
neue taboo to get in through her vagina, pluck out her heart on the
up to her mouth and emerge from her mouth and apparently this will reverse the birth process
making them also identify scientifically accurate anyway. He does this and he's got his bird friends with him. So some birds were his mates and he says please don't laugh while I do this should wake up
they couldn't hold. Incomes is currently looking so inclined for her vagina. Those you woke up and you tend to stop and teeth in her vagina.
We will have to do today
is quite a story. She's really is described as diverse issues, the goddess of death, yes away,
mortality, I think, than that
more timescale, cheese.
Very vivid description of the mess he's got eyes of greenstone hair of kelp and the mouth of a Barrack Cuba,
others. What does of course, having a tooth? He found
has a vagina a bit like a moray eel. They ve got really big tee.
like other. Do they got like a perennial job like alien and they got they got back, was teeth so that, if use acts that we swimming the mouth, he cuts without a garage Grandmama. What big teach you have
and what a surprising located Maui mowing will. Naturally we said that he didn't
Pranks didn't kill anyone. I think that is true. Perhaps I dont know of any but dead, but he did once go fishing with it
I called a guru who was a husband of his sister
and he was so annoyed with Iraq guru that he turn him into a dog,
oh, and that was the first abbot alchemists what dogs come from because Maui? Actually, if he knew,
the song from Wada, your wealth,
which is his big song. It's all about the things which he did so he created the moon and the sun and wind and all these differently,
suppose the island's up from the ocean floor didn't he had term had a magic jawbone which, according to some of the mess, is the job of his grandmother.
It is also quite big, so she must have been huge,
anti did things were useful things with it. So we used as official to pull up islands from the ocean floor and actually the
names of North Island and South Island in New Zealand. Now too
Maui until Water Amalfi, which means fish of Mary and canoe of mowing, because that's when you call efficient turned into an island- and he turned his canoe,
into another island tunnel
often to islands, is great erase the sky. There was a thing you did. The sky was pressed down,
to the earth, so that goes with the height of it
The tree was pressed right down to the size of the very restrictive,
nobody and he just lifted it up and ran to a very high, be constructed up in here what they saw, ninth
I was not low, wouldn't set. Was it like it? Wouldn't you,
but you had on it, but he wanted to fly a join you
nightmare young man, so
Other colleagues in Montana is too feces that got us who comes up at the end, cheese actually based on Pella, who is
genuine goddess in hawaiian mythology and so
is that the most important got escalating. Volcanoes stuff like that is like the big
Kay no in Hawaii is called Mount Pele opium.
I fear, has yeah that's kind of her embodiment as yet rice, yet monumental. I think events pay tribute
When you go there like me, I went, and I did it did not now. Don't you get this
For so long, you meant to events, give em, I think it some brandy. I think it is. You go
Import, genuine, poor gin.
hello, she loves gin, yeah, there's a hawk God.
camera poor, which confirmed pronouncing wrong.
but he married Pele defy got us
and his habits was so bad because he was a hawk that she could
Copenhagen that huge arguments.
Sleep. She won all the arguments and he was forced to surrender and turned himself into a fish
That is why a fish, the whitefish with best name, I think we might have talked about it before
the really long night I'm have a crocodile is called the whom who coup nook, who are poor and it makes
this grunting noise, which apparently sounds a bit like a hog which is because it used to be a hunk when
That was always relationship. Is gonna fail between the volcano in a hot. What my trip to abolish it,
Can we talk about having teeth in vaginas, because this is an extremely,
common myth around the world around the whole world. In fact, there are twenty. Two variants of this is called vagina, then tartar myth
north american cultures alone.
Which is how one has a tooth vagina wandering round at night, castrating men in their sleep, the Monday
route to mess has a woman with a vagina like a crocodiles mouth in
Marissa and India. The myth has the tooth vagina, not only castrating men, but also eating the rice crop causing famine
basically and miss such an inch thick way of saying that women are evil and you should stay away from the right,
I don't know, I thought it was like empowering women. You know we get to chop of men's pains.
Doesn't have a gene is if we want to be really bored to. The soldiers are greedy vagina, another trays of most of the time. It is quite miss such an estate. Very occasionally, you get one
where the woman is empowered in the story, so in the church? She myths which is in
not in Siberia, you huh,
a woman who is married to an old man and to avoid having sex with him, she puts a fish had in her vagina, so the teeth will cut him every time he tries to have sex
and she takes the piss off him doesn't J here. He has as though the first time as I oh my gosh their teeth in there and then she is like a commonly we didn't know vaginas of tee of ours. I just official bushes, put it just sufficient and you must take it out. I seems just leave it. I want she's got away with it once she isn't
after he doesn't have to have it lying just the thing on Rwanda, the movie itself. So if that seeing the vagina
She seen was in the movie, obviously would have been an x rated moving rights, but in ITALY they actually have to change the name of MILAN altogether, because in
ITALY. There was a very famous porn star called Molina MILAN, a policy and parents
worried and they were worried in the studio that people googling MILAN to see Cinema times and so would come across my wanna policy instead of the actual sentiment, so it was renamed to be. Oh, she honour so in ITALY, was released
as I see it, only X, rated references cut misuse of girls to be very disgusting club in Kingston Oceana. What's it like, couldn't be cool ratio,
in the UK evacuated trains, they will really did really good
such a Marianna into Pacific Island is culture and history and Sefton, nay, and they consulted lots of experts. So I think there are created in the film travelled Polynesia multiple times and they put together Committee of Linguists and anthropologists historians from all over the Pacific Islands who, I think, ended up being called the something committee, the Pacific Committee or something they were called. The oceanic trust
and they did things like, for instance, Maui, for the first year of when they were coming up with a film is bold. So if you of the film he's got
this curling curly head of hair and that's because he was boot and they went the Pacific Island anthropologists. Who said that's incredibly offensive because the
here is where your manner is way. Your power is in these very powerful. You gotta give more hair, so I gave him more and more until
don't stop
We want to be quite a skinny characters. Well, Maui
mythology as scattering of an aid.
and quite large, but yet we know why that was. Why did they go against the cinema?
controversial, but that was actually at the advice of the oceanic trust com.
see so he's a very strong character and peoples at this playing into stereotypes of obesity bought. They, the committee said, look he's a simple
powerful imposing figure not as much funny. I've got this huge thing.
and he's not fat in the film. I would say he is big boat,
a strong might see exactly mighty Maui
you know. One of the main imports of the Pacific Islands is, in our general Polynesia fact, imports
spam all
So close. I think it was
you're all right. Well, maybe another one that Burma ok, but under the food standards even stuff, the Americans models is fist of the Americans and the USA is a lot of, and it's a bit of it that Americans never eat.
but there s mouth, is its high in a happy meal. Is the toy
Have you got any age is controversial because they can little plastic limited alive, because I was not
I am not sorry. I've watched only connect the other day and I think that anything right and I know you guys- kicked ass, changed into the pulled out. Another started, so it's turkey, tails,
I didn't know about it. But in America,
Asia, their children, fifty million Turkey's eaten and Turkey's all have his tail, which is
weird oily glance at the varied Mason and its basically the glad that keeps the feathers in detail
and it's got a fatty chunk of meat at it and it's never used and America is also get school bus.
Parsons knows right now, but it is not centre. Shops
never guess eaten into your sites? They all get sent to the Pacific Islands and they started base. America started basically dumping these there and now its massive
one of the diet,
two thousand and seven. The average Samoan was eating forty four pounds of turkey.
Tells a year, which is three times as much as the average American EAST Turkey in total. I think they think
the real problem delay because they do have an obesity problem in some of the islands and its because so much fats in these turkey tells me that they really wants to stop importing quite so much. I think a lot of mutton flaps to today
the thing that uneasy exports is a very, very fatty bit of cheap, basically, and they do not
he's on the money? More
so another Disney film heritage
wasn't exactly true to life was Pocahontas
in poker hunters. The male protagonist is John Smith. I understand having seen it, but all these things are
think her the film, so he was a pirates, turn mercenary who fought the Turks in the Balkans. He was killed
shouldn't slope sold into slavery was asleep
for ages natures before he beat his boss to death in a wheat field and escaped to Russia.
Because he was so famous. Having escaped is a slave. He was invited to help establish
the colony in America, where he was right,
if a mutiny on his way and then eventually did get some.
and then he did meet Pocahontas. I believe, but then Hudson
Hunter England to recover from a gun powder incidents which blew his jet,
Those are not really
he's got no genitals throughout the whole movie. Note
he's not in the movie all this now about like an underneath the clouds GAD.
Dress. This is not in the way they don't need each. Surely it must be the pre genital
This is when he sent back to England. After all, the stars handling does not indicate Maranon yeah, but it didn't make it with Pocahontas when he had genital there's, not like you, it s a chance when he didn't. I guess that's why these are. According to his memoirs, he said all this and historians do
Jim that they were tells her affection. However, one historian, Philip Barber, has said that nothing that he's written has yet been found to be alive, so it could be true, could be nurtured, Kay
the story of Cinderella is a bit more terrifying than the one that we know from Disney. I kind of loved his next. They took all the Grimm's fairytales,
grotesque and made them really child friendly. But in the original Cinderella the evil steps is when they want to fit into the shoes just resort to cutting off bits of their feet,
one of them cause offer and toes well known cuts off earn heel,
They call apparently because of the blood dripping from the shoes, and I would have to be quite obvious. If you put your four into a shoe.
you ve got no tone. I know he'll
so you ve is anyway. I will. If you just get someone to turn up wearing the shoe. I guess you might not advance on whether the prince is trying to witness the whole thing I'll brothers, I think,
happens is that the Prince walks around with a shoe yeah and he tries to put it directly on people's feet. Doesn't he
unlike Niels down and they give them his fate. I guess I give them the thing. I say what you're saying as if they went into addressing, Graham and then quickly chopped off the toes your sisters took the shoe and said
I'm sure it will be. The first is, can we one second and I pop into the carriage abandonment socks to go further?
a big redwald yeah,
grim version. They also heads they stop the sisters coming to the wedding by having pigeons peck out there
Yes, it was a lot more. They don't have to come to the wedding. The battle is lost about point four possess the necessary there's no screaming, and I can from the two things they ruin that I used to sit at invitation to persist, as have other invite them to the evening. But we all know the thing with the wedding is you can only have a certain number of gas and at one stage to draw the line, and everyone else gets the right factor
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rub will see then good bye.
Do you know how you feel themselves on the three thousand mile journey back to this
Guess I see they keep themselves going.
by consuming their own bones?
Less line loses sixty five percent of its volume and the skull loses fifty percent of its volume and they break down these bone cells called
to your site and they use them to get the minerals and the nutrients. They need right click as they do let yet they lose all their teeth in the stomach and digestive system Cyprus. I just wanted to found at last. I would be like if we were born as adults and ended as a baby.
A baby is an adult without bushes and you ve got a child, none of honest open and they have they have more bones and adults. So it's not like that.
My vote is a baby and think about it. I'll get it
so there which may arise.
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