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500: Jeena Cho Interviews Justin Malik of the Optimal Living Daily Podcasts

2017-04-24 | 🔗

Optimal Living Daily: Reading you the best content on personal development, productivity, and minimalism.

Episode 500: Jeena Cho Interviews Justin Malik of the Optimal Living Daily Podcasts (The Big Idea, Social & Performance Anxiety).

Mentioned in this Episode: Episode 275 - Dane's Phone Message Episode 099 - Dr. Chris Patti on The Flip-side of Love

Jeena Cho is the co-author of The Anxious Lawyer: An 8-Week Guide to a Joyful and Satisfying Law Practice Through Mindfulness and Meditation (ABA). She is a regular contributor to Forbes, Bloomberg, and Above the Law where she covers resilience, work/life integration, and wellness in the workplace. She regularly speaks on women's issues, diversity, wellness, productivity, mindfulness, and meditation.

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real quick i recommend listen to the show on spotify we can listen to all of your favorite artist and podcast in one place for free without a premium account spotify has a huge catalog of podcast on every imaginable topic plus he can follow your favorite podcast so you never miss an episode premium users can download episodes to listen to offline wherever and whenever and easily share what you're listening to with your friends on instagram so if you haven't done so already be sure to download the spotify app search for optimal living daily on spotify or browse podcast in the your library tab also make sure to follow me so you never miss sort of optimal living daily this is optimal living daily episode five hundred and i'm just a moloch we ve done it five hundred episodes can you believe it it feels like yesterday those in here recording the very first episode all nervous and wondering if anyone would listen i don't want you going back to those first episode of these i sound like a different person that's all part of the final yes and i can remove them
anyway this is obviously a special episode if you knew normally this is has apologised for simply read to you from blogs and books that i think will help you optimize your life and it is with permission from the authors but is a very special way just three days ago are other three podcast hit milestones one hundred episodes for we'll start up daily two hundred for optimal health daily in three hundred up those for optimal finance daily now five hundred here and guess what episode number one for optimal living daily relationships as of today so brand new podcast so please check it out and subscribe secondly a big one and i'm really excited to announce it over today here this shows since it's a huge milestone i wanted to do something completely different found someone who i feel like really relates to my own story and happens to be a writer and podcast her i'm talking about gina show
he knows a lawyer and actually a regular contributor to forbes and having imposed in a bunch of others she's also the author of the you just lawyer in a week i too joyful unsatisfying and satisfying law practice through mindfulness and meditation actually plan a feature an excerpt from that book here will apply to all of us will you hear more about that soon and she's an adjunct prefer at the university of san francisco school of law she's getting a lot done he can find her the anxious lawyer dot com and gina showed our com and i'm really excited she's gonna ask me questions i'm going to answer them for the special episode and this is in typical interview because she's not here live asking the questions be waiting nervous for that which you ll hear about in the interview sounds more like a q and a but i thought gotta be fun to do here you can hear the story and maybe here some answers to questions that you might have wondered about so that here are the questions asked by jean show herself and my answers as we optimize your life
hi kirsten cleaner it's really nice to be able to do this in our view a u so a few questions i get the idea for your podcast come from mr needs specific way then why are you decided to start your podcast two twenty fifteen was an interesting year for me my business partner lee ranking in and i were three years into an app business i left my full time job two years earlier and we had pivoted from having one big gap to creating over a hundred we were able to make multiple hours a day the walmart of absolute sense and it wasn't fulfilling for either of us i was suffering social or performers anxiety really and was looking for take it helped me feel more confident and comfortable was what i was doing in life we adopt
starting other projects on the side like a blog about personal development and minimalism stuff we were interested in but we are not the best writers i did think we be offering a lot of new incredibly valuable content if we did start a blog disorders great information out there in an hour that time i was audio books emily introduced meta podcast so our spending on podcast in the top charts like the tim fair show and stuff like that but everything also seen too was interview style so all his ideas were swirling around my head and ate all came together once we wanted agree something like a blog personal development and minimalism but we did certainly want to create the content ourselves and we both loved our task and audio books so combining all into a par cast and help people find in curing the content to theirs mister reed so this would pick one great article a day and simply read it to you it would also be a
the way for me to force myself to speak more and perform but you're said than done especially with social anxiety he tapped bad having social anxiety how long have you had so going society for an how has the podcast help helped you ear social anxiety social anxiety or at least performers anxiety for as long as i can remember having to speak in public i remember being a cub scout oh i don't know what that aid should be may be seven years old and i get us to resign oath offers reason i either didn't have a memorize or just completely panicked and they said i can whispered into an adults here around in time i had what i believe was my first presentation in school somewhere around second grade ilsa science projects like a baking soda nigger volcano something like that and i was sick school when the presentation was actually explain so i had no idea what i'm doing or how
explain to my parents what the presentation board was supposed to look like think remember saying that is three cited and looks like a poster but we when you get it so we just made it out of cardboard it look terrible have you remember the prison asian itself now i must have blotted out my memory but i ended up getting it de on their presentation that i'll never forget both of them were really embarrassing moments and ever since then every presentation has been terrify in underground as a business major it got a little bit better and as a bit more confident by then but i've had plenty a panic tax since then too it's mostly performances but sometimes social anxiety in general also wide advice or suggestions d have for people and are suffering from social anxiety idee have always hated sound of my own voice seemed like most people do but having too over five hundred episodes of my voice has made me kind of immune to it and here we must all speakers helps alot now this deficit
has not been a cure though if you put me in front of alive crowd or even if this was live right now i would be able to do it at this point even after a year and a half of doing this so while i'm still suffering from an immensely i feel it has been in lining in that i really do know what it takes to get back to my best days liking college it be a combination of more confidence of appreciation in love with the most obvious answer practice i went to a therapist get out of my masters in business when my performers anxiety peaked and he simply hemi practice answering interview questions and one of them and that along with doing a couple of job interviews did help the most no one anxiety wants to actually take their fears head on that's the exact opposite of what you want to do what you want to run away and hide button for the only real way to make progress confronting the fears head on and being oak with failure actually expecting happen from time to time and then learn from and not give up and meditation
i've been a useful tool for minimizing native thoughts and anxiety about the future light unexpected benefits heavy gotten from doing this part cast from upper she'll standpoint of connected with authors and bloggers which has been amazing the a minimalist had me neri three of their books which makes me a publish narrator now it's crazy and families as to who would have thought that the one who speaks the least would end up as an audio book narrator polyester and on a personal level side from the benefits of speaking more a feeling of connected to a whole new group of people people feel like are on the same pages me in terms of wanting more out of life but with less stuff less stress and less anxiety fewer meaningless possessions and a more meaningful life when we and i catch up one of the things i comes a very frequently is how lizards of the park yasser saw the nice his people we ve ever heard from
are some memorable stories you ve heard from your listeners died has impacted you i'm always blown away by the messages i yet mostly emails but some people feeling reign in because they find my address at the bottom of my news letter of had short sweet notes on cards with lee i stuck on them to fight long letters and even sympathy cars when i had to record episode the same day i found out my car was killed stories from listen about how the pie casts impact of their life is one of the biggest reasons i keep going even if the podcast don't make enough money is a sustainable business while the most memorable was dane so on after my health daily listeners concerning questions but instead of sending in a question he simply sent a thank you message he's an epileptic can was living on supplemental security income has said that he had no plans for life tint he could do anything and after a concern
only listening he started a lorry coding like see plus plus and linux and create goals for himself billy may my family and i to europe and i ended up plain that message with his permission at the end of every two hundred seventy five of optimal living daily you ve narrated over five hundred block post that's a lie what are your favorite episodes and what are some of the recurring themes baby steps building habits slowly overtime with small practices each day is definitely a recurring theme a mattress or anything the solution for most of our problems like if your happy well do the negative thoughts build a builder meditation practice how'd you start that just start with two minutes a day make a part of your routine or fear out of shape same thing just insert tens watts or ten pushups or basic stretches right when you wake up before you do anything else if you hey your job take once
action a day to point you towards a direction of what you actually want one if as a minimalist dante from your house every day these tiny things up and eventually that becomes your life a better life as for a favorite episode i truly love all others a hungarian i can't say that there is a specific episode from one regular also there's much better than the rest found one and i don't think he'd be fair for the rest but a couple of special purpose do come to mind what are my closest friends since fifth grade doktor chris patty is an assistant professor appalache and state university and he rode email in response to the loss of a dog with some helpful loving words so i asked him if i reading the podcast those so ninety nine in action a whole week was awesome because others came on and narrated their own posts so basic the episodes ninety nine through one o seven were some very special ones that meant a lot to me and i
you be doing the same thing to celebrate episode five hundred tomorrow and throughout this whole week will feature authors nearing their own content really cited what advice which he gave to someone wants to start their own part cas or their blog mosul do not do it for the money or if you think you're going make aside hustle from it if you want extra money every month that's the worst reason to start apart castro blood optimal living daily as a top ten health partisan itunes rhino in ink is not enough to cover my living expenses start writing or recording because you have content that doesn't exist in europe to get it out there like you would feel complete if you didn't do it the most one thing is being consistent producing really good content every day of the week of the highest quality possible there's just two content out there now to do anything less how do you manage running for soon to be five podcast on a daily basis motorcyclists
that you use as your full time job this is what full time job technically last time i checked those working about fifty five hours a week on these podcast and yes one even more so i'm really pushing myself now as of today billy episode one of after all living daily relationships is now available but we are the losing money every month to keep these running its being funded by our earnings from our f business over the last five years has helped that we use a bunch of free tools like audacity to edit dropbox for a temporary storage really basic stuff nothing to say but were confident that this year will be able to make enough from the podcast to have them be sustainable for once eventually allow me to pay myself a reasonable salary and hopefully bremer mrs partner on full time too while producing these parties has been way more work than i ever imagined d love that here from listeners has made it totally worth it and if i can make this us and business bid be a dream come true
help me gonna use while retaining obviously not a typical episode but its episode five hundred and i was happy to share some more info about myself and our story here i want to thank china for coming up with the question i'm recording them as she didn't have to do that but i thought it make it more interesting to hear and help me practice a little more i do plan a future some of her content soon straight from her book in the meantime show some love you can find her online at the ink this lawyer dot com her content has anyone really she's an expert in mindfulness meditation so she's a grey source for more info you can get mindfulness too if you're part of romania was there i ever late this episode description and an old podcast dot com and by the way the episodes i mention in the interview those are also late in their so doesn't check that out the shortcut linked to this episode description is old podcast dot com slash five hundred and thank you for listening to this interview as i mentioned
this whole week is gonna be really special and back to narrating content for you so stay tuned for a lot of fun oils forgot book giveaways all week make sure you're on a mailing list are old podcast ancona be in all of these raffles happening horizon wherever so so again thank you for being here for celebrating five hundred episodes with me take you ye energy i really appreciate it here's to other five hundred episodes and i'll catch you in tomorrow's special episode where the more life awaits hey this is dan from the optimal financed daily podcast which is a lot like this show except more focused on personal financed just in hand picked the best posts he can find from blogs and authors light were meet safety mr money moustache and more and i read them team five days a week so if you and joy despite cast come on over and subscribe to optimal financed daily to and together we optimize your
to life you ve been listening to optimal living daily be sure they hit the subscriber to stay up to date on each new episode and heads all pod cast doubt come that's o l de cast darkened free gift as well more actionable tips and resources to help you maximize your potential thanks for joining us remember your optimal life awaits
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