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So for the last few episodes have been talking a lot about why we make the decisions we do. We can talk a lot about, makes a decision, moral or not how we arrive at those sorts of moral criteria, not being a passenger to the world around us basically been talking a lot about why we think and act the way we do. But it's easy for me to imagine someone out there not really being satisfied with this discussion so far, there's so much more to talk about human behavior. Needless to say, it's a pretty complex thing not going to cover it in a couple of thirty minute episodes of this podcast, but we can make a dent right. So let's try I could easily see somebody sitting at home, criticizing the show saying. Okay, look now, I understand it KIA.

Stand, the foundation of why I deem things to be right or wrong, but let's not go off the rails here. Let's not pretend like that's the judge, jury and executioner of why people do the things they do think about it. There are tons of things that you me and everyone for that matter. Do On a daily basis that really have nothing to do with whether we deemed it to be a morally justifiable behavior or not. This is not how it works. The real he is. We don't go around faced with decision points in our lives and then you know instantly be internally start talking to ourselves and say: okay, okay, I need to make a decision, a bowl of oatmeal for breakfast or blueberry pancakes for breakfast. How do I decide, but we know what we Jesus do in this situation, but would a moral exemplar do what would the stoic sage do? Would the stoic sage eat blueberry pancakes for breakfast.

Point is, although it's entirely possible to do, and some people might most of us most of us lay people when it comes to these sorts of rudimentary tasks of day to day living. We don't make these decisions by having some internal philosophical debate with ourselves and we decide and what the right thing to do is and then we do it just not how most of us make these little decisions in our lives, but an interesting question to ask: maybe a good starting place is: why is there a distinction there in? Why is that the case? Why do most of us have these internal philosophical debates with ourselves Only when we're faced with potentially life crippling choices. You know we only do it when a really unique decision point comes up in our lives. When we haven't seen that much, we don't do it so much of the day today. Stuff, for example, we have no problem rolling over in our head and debating with ourselves about what the right decision might be when it comes to big things like changing careers who we should marry what kind

cell phone plan we should have with by the way Socrates said, is the most important choice you'll ever make in your life. Don't do a mess up on that one? We do it with those things, but for Some reason we don't do it with the little things. Why is that? Well, for one thing, it would be exhausting right who wants to do that all day, having a brand new Oxford style debate in your head. But every little miniscule thing that you do when your day even down to every step that you take. Do I put this foot in front of the other foot without get me closer or there away from the goals I'm trying to achieve it would be paralyzing not to mention probably impossible. So what do we do about it? How do we safeguard against this? Well, we pull from the archives right previously on your life. We make use of old debates that we

add with ourselves at other times in our life, see that's the interesting thing at some point in your life. You actually did think about that stuff. Maybe not consciously you thought about whether putting one foot in front of the other was a good idea or not. You consider all kinds of things about it. Your gate went walking gliding across the floor. The way your foot hits the ground, so you won't sprain an ankle. Every time you take a step whether you have those doctor Scholl's arch, support things in your wing tips. By the way? That's not all! This is just getting started. You thought about whether being able to move in general, you know being mobile, whether that was a better or worse thing than being entirely stationary. You thought about whether that movement, if you used to walk to your car and drive to work, whether that was going to yield a better or worse outcome for you, you've done the legwork.

No pun intended and now that decision that at one point in your life, wasn't obvious to you at all. Now you just kind of know drive to work every day, no philosophical debate. There is no moral cross road. Have you decided that moving and having a job as an integral part of your life long ago, and most of us don't really question it that much we just kind of keep moving until something goes wrong. Steven, why are you talking about walking

I know how to walk. Listen, I get it calm down. The question I want to ask you today is this: how many of these autopilot activities to most people have? How many do you think again, no question? We can't think about everything right. You can't have that philosophical debate in your head about every single thing that you do, but how far does that extend at what point do we start thinking about these things? What level of uniqueness what's an appropriate amount of questioning this stuff about whether what you're doing is the right or healthy thing to do see? It's a tricky question, because there's no diff it is cut off point right, as I said before, almost everyone does it with the really unique like decisions. What career do you choose who you marry, but how unique does a choice have to be before it's appropriate to think about what the right thing to do is now. The larger point here is that, because human behavior is the beast that it is, and there is no definitive agreed upon point or were all supposed to be thinking about this stuff

what happens if we have that Bell curve of voluntary human behavior right? Some people get lazy and they just do it as little as I possibly have. Never, maybe once every six months when the cops shoot someone on the tv election cycle, don't think about more it really. How about this? How about the fact that every single one of you listening to this show right now? We all wouldn't doubt this at all we all know tons of people that are like this they're all around us, we're surrounded by them. I mean all of you. Listening to this are the type of person that listens to educational podcasts. That says something about you. Many of you are, Probably identified in your groups of friends or coworkers as that person that enjoy boys, learning and thinking about stuff, that contrast is only possible if there's a strong centage to the population that aren't thinking about stuff. Can you really blame? Are these people bad people? Of course? Not? I love these p.

There's no law against not thinking about morality and owns gonna object you into a an immoral space ship if you watch Netflix instead of thinking about these things, so it naturally follows the just just gonna be a certain percentage of people that take the path of least resistance. It's human nature. We see this with any voluntary behavior. If left with the choice, people will choose to have these exhausting taxing, very difficult philosophical debates in their head as little as they possibly have to. But the interesting thing is. Their behavior hasn't stayed the same from birth as it changes all the time. Just 'cause you don't contemplate, morality doesn't mean you just act like you're, five years old, the rest, your life never progressing on stuff. So where are these people finding out Others quote supposed to be behaving. One of the make

bring those value judgments about what proper decorum is or better. Yet the real question is: who is making them for them? Well again, human behavior really complex not going to cover it all, but I want to talk about one of them. It's something that all of us, every single one of us, are very familiar with. It's not really a question of whether this thing effects your behavior. It's a question of how much it effects the choices you make the thing I'm talking about. Title of the episode in security. What are you in secure about class class? I want you to close your eyes and think about something you're in secure about, because rest assured, you do have in securities that affect your behavior, no one else. Like eighteen years old, I I went to the first therapy session that I ever went to as a adult, and I remember walking

into the place and having all these preconceived ideas about what insecurity was. You know I used to think if you're an insecure person wow, you need to go to therapy man like really like, if you're one of those people that are insecure. You need serious psychological intervention. You need help. You need some therapist just get inside of that brain just commit arson on the underbrush burn, all that old stuff away in to start fresh man. You need a brand new plot of land in that brain of yours to work with, but what I realized is that everyone is insecure. I used to think insecurity was that you were flawed. I realize that insecurity is life. It'll, look around! You look at all these beautiful pain. All around you. I don't care how beautiful they are they're insecure about something and it's affecting their behavior right now. In fact, some people, if you really looked at them hard, you really examine them and you understood them at a deep level

some people even build their entire lives around their insecurities it. It really does navigate everything that they do. Really, it's like building a house with a tree growing in the middle of it just kind of build around it. It's not really the house you want, but there's this thing there just kind of do the best you can navigating around it. For some people, their insecurities runs so deep. They affect almost every day, vision that they make for some people. Their insecurities make up almost everything that has to do with who they even are it's when they have the job they do why they wear the clothes they do, what types of friends or what types of people in relationships with what hobbies they have in security, really he does leave no stone unturned in our lives. If it wants to- and we all realize that insecurity is something that is affecting the choices we make. But it's not obvious is. Is that a bad thing I mean we typically think of insecurity is a bad thing, carries a negative connotation, but why do we do that? What do you security do to you?

What is it about insecurity that so wrong? I mean you could even make the case. Isn't it a good thing? Doesn't it sometimes protect us from horrible things that are going to happen to us? Well sure, in fact, if you just look at insecurity alone next to morality, it's Actually, a very similar thing to morality in a lot of ways, but in other ways that you are complete opposites think morality concerns itself with. You know their this outcome that either needs to be achieved, that's been assigned to me or that I want to achieve, and once I assign that in goal to the equation now I can contemplate can use reason and arrive at a set of behaviors that will best produce that life that I want insecurity is there's a life that I don't want, There's something that I desperately don't want to happen to me. I don't want x thing to happen to me, so I were strict myself from doing x, behavior so that that world won't come to fruition.

Again they're very similar at face value right, but there's a key difference that we're going to get to in a minute, and it's best understood if we have some example of insecurity to reference right. So let's do that now, I'm going to leave a tail close your eyes. But I closing on this episode. Everyone close your eyes and think back to the days we were in school guardian school great. It's going to be very easy for you to imagine, remembers shopping for school clothes. Remember going out with your parents and picking out clothes. Well, imagine yourself brown middle school high school. You come home after hanging out with your friends at the sock, hop and ice cream parlor and your mom has a present for you on the counter you open it up and your mom got you. God bless her heart. A brand new pair of denim overalls free to wear for picture day at school, yeah thanks, mom, thanks for the overalls. Well, if you're anything like I was when I was fourteen pretty much every fourteen year old, that's ever existed what you going to do of course, you're, not

You know. Where am I going to wear those overalls to school? Think of the social backlash you would be rude the instant you walk in that school door, would be ruthlessly socially castigated for wearing them. You would pay an immediate price. All your friends Laugh at you, your enemies would laugh at you. The creepy call janitor that works at the middle school would even be laughing at you. That's a low point. That's rock bottom slowly had become that guy that just sits in the cafeteria alone, eating food by himself people throw food at you like you're, an ogre the circle of How do you chanting something? That's you if you wear those overalls to school fact is you are insecure about what your friends will think of you? If you wear those overalls, now. This is a great example of how it feels to be insecure about something right. You know thinking about that future world, that you don't want to live in. One filled with social reprisal and no friends and food

thrown at you wearing overalls. You don't want to live in that world. So what you're going to do is restrict yourself from this behavior wearing the overalls to prevent that from happening to you and on the surface. It seems pretty similar to morality, but what's different between them lies and understanding. Who is the driver of that car? Are you the passenger in the car or the driver of the car? The difference is not how we're making the decision it's, who is making the choices about how you should or should not be behaving? This really is the darkness of insecurity. To me, insecurity robbed you of your individuality of your self identity. Even well. Actually yourself, identity just becomes something that's it just becomes a conglomeration of all the expectations that all the people around you have for you and how you should be behaving in this way you voluntarily surrender your autonomy. You just become this patchwork of what your Tom, expects of you and what that guy, you hated in high school

aspects of you and what Barack Obama expects of you and what the cover of cosmopolitan magazine expects of you by not making decisions based on philosophical, moral debates about what the correct decision is, we effectively relegate ourselves to a life of just avoiding behaviors that other people have told us to avoid. Now, at this point, you may be saying: well, why is that so bad the bad thing sure, yes, I fully realize I would get socially castigated if I decided to murder someone, but maybe it's a good thing to fall in line with societies. Expectations I mean keeps me out of trouble. Well, I guess that would be true. If, the decision of whether to murder, somebody or not was the only decision that you're going to make for the rest of your life. In reality, everything you do is a decision. To me. This is the most interesting slash rel

went to the show. Slash terrifying part of this entire subject matter is that when you put these decisions in the hands of other people's social expectations, of you sure nothing bad, maybe seeming to happen to you. Nothing bad may actually be happen to you at all. You may go through your whole life completely. Happy completely. Can print with the way that you're making decisions. But the problem is you don't know what you don't know you've never been devoid of insecurities. You don't know what that life is like, I don't know, the price that you may be paying an opportunity cost for any of these behaviors. All you know is well they're working. I've gotten killed, doing them but gotta be doing something right still alive, but in all seriousness is the fact that you haven't died, doing something yet a valid criteria for doing it. That way for the rest of your life, one of a wizard came up to you and told you that you could

be thirty percent happier. If you were just willing to have one difficult internal philosophical debate about something and realize that a particular one of these expectations and other people are hurting on you is making you less happy than you could be. Would you want to do it? The thing we have to understand is, there's often a very real cost that comes along with putting your decision making into everyone else's hands. If you work at a job, a job that you disp guys because it pays you twenty grand a year. More than this other job that would actually make you not hate your life everyday, be more fulfilling, be awesome. And the only reason you don't switch jobs, because you know there's these things of yours. They make a lot of money want to know that you make less money than they do a year If that's the only reason you're doing it, you are paying a very real cost every day of your life, every second that you spend in misery just so that for what? Yes, you can live up to the standard that they have just how much my a grown man should be making when they're your age, let's see,

but if you're a forty year old man and you're dating record, looks like a car instant revolving door of twenty something year. Old girls and there are other women out there, that you could date and you have a stronger emotional connection with them, they make you more happy and the only reason you're not with them, is because you're terrified. What's your buddies are going to say when they see a picture of your girlfriend, you are paying a very real price every day of your life, for what you can live up to the standard of do your girl, she's, so hot man, how my God, this really underscores the problem with insecurity, the problem with insecurity, is what, if the overalls are functional? What, if you would have liked the overalls your mom audio when they had a really great pocket in the front for your phone, what they're really comfortable overalls, but if you like them like that, you know they're Denham, what, if you arrived at the idea that they were stronger than other clothes when, if they're on sale, there more cost efficient than other clothes, there is benefit

hear. What I'm saying in other words is what, if you could reason to the fact you have one of these internal philosophical debates, and arrive at the conclusion that wearing those overalls would have yielded a much better life for you than not wearing them, and the only reason you didn't as you're, trying to live up to a standard that somebody else or something else conferred on of you? What you shouldn't be wearing again, there's often a cost that comes with putting your decision making into somebody else's hands. I even say that most of the time in security comes with an opportunity cost and the reason why is because of just how completely arbitrary it

these standards, that people have a view, the ones you're relying on to show you how you should be behaving for fear of embarrassment. It's not like they're, appealing to some constant static social standard. These social standards are constantly changing, but somebody would make you feel embarrassed for fifty years ago is completely different than today. Who was more right, though? What behavior was quote better fifty years ago or two fifteen. On that same note, it gets even more complicated. Not only are the constantly changing, but it's not like. There's one single standard that people are holding you to write these standards drastically change, just based on the people that you're seeking approval from me. For example, what if you were is overalls to school yeah? Let's say your friends may laugh at you, the janitor's going to laugh at you with his mop in his hand, but look most people over there wearing cowboy hats. They would welcome. You with open arms are going to judge you for aware, and overall, have a badge of honor where they come from. I'd, say: no. If you wear black nail polish

the black shirt of an emo band that nobody's ever heard of before yeah. Some people are going to think you're a freak but plenty of other people out there. That would embrace you, for it even appreciate how you were dressing. You can't make everyone happy. That's the warmed over truism! That's relevant here! by attaching your identity to away your particular circle of friends, behave and then spending the rest. Your life vehemently opposing any Change for fear that they're going to negatively judge you really wrong? Certainly not the recipe for the happiest life possible. Now that set so far, we've been talking about the individual cost for being led around by your insecurities. Something else to consider it's interesting is this doesn't just affect us. We may be causing a great deal of suffering to the people around us often times the people we love inadvertently by projecting are in securities on to them. Do it all the time, so you an example how much somebody behind

buy in security, or at least not be living as happy a life as possible, one thing we can all relate to is the modern paradigm of a monogamous relationship right well, of course, relationships just like human behaviour are incredibly subjective. No way I can paint all of them with a broad

brush. But I think you guys all understand the type of relationship that I'm talking about and how insecurity and that expectation of how your partner should behave. I mean it just absolutely pervades every expectation that we have about how they should be behaving. Think about it. What is cheating really there? A dictionary definition of the exact point in a relationship with somebody's cheating or is it entirely subjective? Is it constantly changing now there's no standard about what cheating is in a relationship in the same way, there's no standard about whether it's acceptable to wear overalls on picture day, what happens is usually get a boyfriend or girlfriend you have this most of the time unspoken verbal contract about this line that you've defined that you can't cross when it comes to members of the opposite sex. Now the thing is kind of a blurry line right. This line is different.

Every relationship that you're in there's this girlfriend I had once and we're going to the KFC Taco Bell, drive thru, that snaking narrow lane, where you pick up the poisonous food and I'm ordering my food and the person on the other end of the microphone was a girl and she's just being friendly, just a nice person, and she said something about my order. I made a joke back and it made her laugh and she laughed on the mic. Big mistake: look, I don't think anything of it at the time I finished ordering a drive down the narrow snaking line. To pick up my food- and I look over my girlfriend she's just like scowling at me, it was scary, is like looking in a medusa's ice. I'll, never forget it. He said that's disgusting. What what do I do? What I do is mad at me for the rest of the day, apparently across the line. Apparently I'm a habitual line. Stepper we had this contract set up. I wasn't aware of the parameters of the contract, but I wasn't supposed to try to make the opposite. Sex laugh

that was crossing the line and to be fair to her. She was completely right. I mean that was her line. I may not agreed with the line, but that was her line and she entered into this relationship under the expectation that I wouldn't be doing that stuff. Yes, we compassionate to to I mean in her eyes. This is what I was telling myself the time I basically had cheated on her right in front of But the point is there there's no line right that line, changes and shifts in every relationship that you're in right. There relationships where you can openly flirt with other people and your significant other doesn't really care. You know you can look, but you can't touch. That's the max. Not on that note. This perfectly healthy, functioning, loving relationships out there were. You actually can talk to other people, we're both people love each other's company and they make to the really happy and they don't burden themselves with you know needing to fulfill any fleeting desire that their partner may have. They don't restrict them from having the

experiences that may make them happy. They realize they're, not super woman or man, and when they're not together, they can do anything they want. The point here is: there's no standard of what cheating is not in Websters Dictionary and understand that whenever you have this expectation of what the other person can or can't do, if you look close enough, any expectation that you have is ultimately founded in in no again before you feel attacked by that you're. Not talking about your own behavior here, we're not regulating our own behavior we're regulating, there's, that's the in security right and by the way, the fact that these restrictions we place on somebody else's ultimately founded in in security, really says nothing about the legitimacy of your elation to buy. I want you guys to think if I'm labeling, everyone is secretly wanting to cheat on each other. What I am saying is that oftentimes we find ourselves in incompatible relations.

If you find yourself in one, were you guys love each other dearly? Your monogamous, you both understand the the value of four going short term gratification for long term, and you want to build a life for yourself that involves that deep connection you can only have with somebody that you've been with for a long time. That's fine! I'm not attacking you guys at all talking about really probably the way you dated people all throughout your life until you arrive at that one for you, we really cared a lot about them in any of these restrictions of behavior. Ultimately, if you look at it close enough is founded in in security you're, terrified that, by allowing your significant other to have these experiences with other people that they are going to like that person more than you gonna realize all the short comings that you have leave you. For them and you're going to be left all alone in your front room eating at one slash two gallon of Rocky Road ice cream. Now, if you doubt that lies and insecurity, even for a second just considered, How interesting is it that

when you're in a relationship. You don't restrict your significant other from doing most things, not restrict them from eating pumpkin pie, you don't restrict them from going to Disneyland. You know, restrict the I'm going down to the mall with their friends, how convenient that or is this one specific subs, the behaviors that you restrict them from I'm from finding anybody else, but you yeah, we we claim to love these people. We say all kinds of really melodramatic stuff. We say we do anything to make them happy anything. Yes, often times we spend our entire lives, keeping them locked in this emotional cage that we set up. Shutting them off from the outside world turn to blind them from. What's out there for fear that they'll realize a direct

the happier outside of this cage and leave we're centrally blackmail or significant others with the relationship we we we say things like you know. If I ever found out, they were on a date with somebody else, I'm breaking up with you, it's over, really that's the relationship you want to be in that that's the fantasy. The only thing stopping your significant other from dating somebody else is the fear that you can't talk to anymore you're gonna, remove on Facebook. One thing should be very clear: this strategy has nothing to do with morality, everything to do with appeasing in security by the way it's a false sense of security. At that, let's see the plan works. Let's see your grand master plan works. Your girlfriend feels inside like there's a void that needs to be filled. She feels like going on a date with a guy from work, but she doesn't act on those feelings of respect to your wishes. You know, by virtue of her being a piece of your property there can

I got news for you. She still the same person whether you had that expectation of her or not like she still wants to go on the date, you're just blocking the exit with a fire extinguisher. What is that girl? If, if she has those desires, she still lives every day of her life, everyday she's in the relationship with you, for God knows how long secretly feeling like some other lifeout. There might make her happier, but she doesn't act on it because of the insecurity that you projected underwear. This is the darkness. This is the darkness of insecurity. This really is what they can do to the people around us that we claim to love so much. You know if I'm at a perfect strain. You're walking down the street and they approach me and they told me, look there's this thing. I want to do in my life. Thinking about doing it. I think my best guess is that it would make me a happier person if I did it should I do it. I would say absolutely: yes, probably before they even finish the sentence. I mean that is

What I want for people to do improve your lot in life, become a happier person gravitate towards what you think. Your best guess is at the moment of, what's going to make you happier, oh, but conveniently where the person I supposedly love more than anyone in the entire world. I reserved this extra special way to treat them, I'm willing to force them to spend the duration of our relationship. However, long let's go we locked inside of an emotional cage, simply because I'm terrified of looking at myself in the mirror and acknowledging that somebody else might be better for them. Think of that they want to be happier, and somebody else might make them happier. Why won't you want that for them, this insecurity, when we do it to ourselves and other people, it starts to sound downright sadistic at times. Oh, you think he'd be happier with another life, but look it's my job to restrict you or bully you into.

Not doing it 'cause, I don't wanna feel alone. The point of this long winded rant about relationships is that, when we're satisfied with having our behavior controlled by her insecurities that are completely arbitrary, we don't only hurt ourselves and not endeavour with the opportunity cost. We potentially hurt other people around US ones that we love That's the other thing, one more thing on relationships. Let's say your worst nightmare comes to life. Right. Let's see your girlfriend, Boyfriend leaves you for somebody else, 'cause you let them go on the date and they ended up liking them more than you isn't that info creation, that you would want to have like how we have been in a relationship way longer than you should have a beer together for a year two years, seven years and you find out, there's some fund mental disagreement that was present all along. That's a deal. Breaker of

the mental this agreement. By the way they could easily shown itself two weeks into the relationship of some didn't feel like they had to cater to the insecurities. It's a game that we play guessing. It benefits you too, when you're making decisions with good information, all right, pat this all together, for future episodes. Here's what I want to say, questioning morality, really is an antidote to insecurity, but it's not a panacea, doesn't fix it all. Every person listening to this is going to continue to have things that you're insecure about. They will continue to cause you to look in the mirror. You know kind of turn, side to side and feel inadequate 'cause. You don't perfectly embody this generations paradigm of beauty. It's going to happen. They will continue to cause you to turn red and be embarrassed when you slip up speaking in front of a group. All I'm saying is that how much or how little these insecurities affect our decision making and our identity? For that matter, it's not out of our control. I guess I'm also saying is look I honestly, unless, if it was

like a good guy friend of mine, but we know that. That's that's what guys do they read each other back and forth? It's like the thing. Yes, one thing is, I would never judge or laughing one for wearing overalls. This is not the kind of person I am. I mean I don't see myself as the litmus test they Duncan to everyone's choices and tell you whether you're, red or blue. What I'm saying is, if you're a person that feels in secure all the time. Maybe the thing that makes you feel insecure is not so much you it's. The people are hanging around with. Come be my friend, that's what I'm saying, but you know that game show variation of the prisoners dilemma. Let me explain it real quick, so I think it's a good comparison. The game works like this right. There's twenty dollars up for grabs money, you and one other person have to decide what you're going to do about that money. To can't tell the other person what you're going to do. Your. Boxes are either to share the money with the other person or steal the money all for yourself

but the other person is the same choice now, if you both decide to share the money, if that's what you both choose, you each get half. If you both decide to steal the money, need He gets anything and if one decides to share and the other sides to steal the person, that's told gets all the money now, knowing that those are the parameters of the game. What would you choose to do? Would you steal the money or share it? keep in mind if you're thinking Cherkes there an altruistic person, you have no uh if the other person is planning on just stealing it from you when you say share, and then you get nothing well. Many of you have probably heard this before, but by far the most common thing that people choose to do at that decision point is steal. The money, and when we think about this decision through the lens of this episode that we just did, we can start to understand the reasoning right. It's entirely fueled, not by what the right thing to do is, but what future world would we want to prevent for fear of social reprisal? That's a long one way of saying it's just like in security right.

These people playing this game show just like an insecure person. Making life choices would restrict the possibility of sharing the money with the other person for fear of worst case scenario, getting taken advantage of and embarrassed by. The other person. One of the other person steals the money from me I'll be ruined David sir, did themselves a superior to me. I can deal with that. Well good paralleled in security, some to think about, but that's a big. They could just be stealing because you know if you steal the money you get all of it or nothing. If you shared you get half of it or nothing is the better choice. That said, I hope these episodes were doing are helping us understand the very,

idea of different reasons: people use when making a decision. It's not just about arriving at a moral system and doing the right thing every time. The larger question of this show it's important for the chronology of the show. Moving forward is when is it acceptable to hold someone morally culpable for an action? It's very easy as outsiders, it's very easy for us to arrive at our own personal code, for other people should be behaving and when they do something that we don't like that doesn't correspond with ours. Attack them hold them morally accountable for it, but in reality, think about what we just talked about. They may not be making a moral choice at all. They may have not even been thinking about it and as we head into future episodes. Think of the peace that comes along with understanding that thank you for listening I'll talk to you next time.