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ears are going to be challenging for you, informative for the public and respectful bus. I hope we can meet that those criteria and it won't be a circus we're off to a good start. There won't be a circle Here's how it actually went good good good. I hope you do good allow her to finish. Please help you go to jail for dear, if you're on the internet, trolling for images, children in sexual law exportation, say so you don't think that's a bad thing. I think that's a valuable help with the witness said. Look at the friggin afghan government is made up of former detainees, get MO this whole thing by the left about this war. A work. Do you agree with this book that is being taught with Is that the babies are racist? Did you ever twos and one of your habeas petitions, the garment of acting as war criminals, who are holding the

ten is an I'm holding of the detainees by bar government that we were acting as war criminals is here personal, hidden agenda to incorporate critical race theory into our laws, call system when you accused of a crime. Are you calling them a criminal? can you provide a definition for the word woman fucking nonsense sense. What do we know about whether that rather sad display asshole assholery, actually moved the votes or shifted public opinion in any way it does not seem to have moved any votes and it from what we understand right now. I think that judge axing came into this hearing on a straw. long path to being confirmed as the first black woman Supreme Court Justice Country's history, and none of that has changed in fact,

if any votes removed they were, they might have happened among the Senate. Republicans who might be embarrassed, If you're collection of dumb assholes, like a rob and or Mitt Romney LISA, Murkowski, on the fence. This might help move them in the direction of voting for terms of public opinion, judge I came into this as with the greatest base of support of any Supreme Court nominee since John Roberts I don't think she lost any support. It would not surprise me if opposition grew a little bit only because the right wing He had sort of pass on this confirmation hearing in this nominations for the beginning and so a lot of the rope, Look it's in the pole told gallop. Who did the pull that they did not have enough informed. and to make a decision in now, I'm sure all these clips were all over Facebook and new. So there may you may get a few, but I don't think it changes any the dynamics Yeah the right wing media was like wait, a minute, a black

it's being nominated to the Supreme Court. We're not going to sleep on that. What are we? Are we crazy we're not taking a pass on that? No you're right, in a Gallup poll taken March, first or eighteenth, and it found fifty eight percent of Americans support, Judge Jackson's confirmation, as you said highest since John Roberts seventeen years ago, so pretty strong base of support, mention in Cinema seems solid. Stabenow who's, the number four Democrat in the Senate. It's her job to count the votes. She said. I don't know if any of us will be able to sustain that with the grace, the poison intelligence that she showed. If anything, it's just strengthening how people feel about her on the democratic side, she's seen no change in any of the votes, Look, I'm right if you're the Mega base year the Maghreb base, you see the stuff on and on your primetime foxen. You know your beauty, We get an angry and outraged, and suddenly you dont like can't get on your brown Jackson, even though you never heard of her before that's how that goes right

four for everyone else in the country. I think that if you have if you're, just a casual news consumer who just happened to see you know turn on the news for couple minutes scroll through some headlines. I think you come away with the impression that a bunch of these assholes were yelling things at her that didn't really make any sense like they sounded extreme and incoherent, which is like you know you can do one or the other, but you do both and no for landing any landing any blows there on the Supreme Court nominee, particularly because so many The issues they raise with her had absolutely nothing to do with any of the cases she would weigh in on as a Supreme Court justice, they didn't really link her views or judicial philosophy to cases there She might see when she is she might hear when she's a Supreme Court justice they basically just talked about random culture or should that they ve been talking to

for the last couple of years anyway, and that they want to talk about in the mid terms and they used the confirmation of the first black woman to serve on the Supreme Court as an excuse to bring the all the attacks that they want to bring up over the midterms. That's that's basic. What I saw- and I think it's actually pretty obvious any sort of casual news consumer who saw that yet there was no subtlety there. There was no subtlety in there was competition between Graham Josh, Hawley, Marsha, Blackburn and Tom COD. For the title of my biggest Senate asshole, but in the end, and none of them were able to beat the man who's been training, his entire life for moments. like this and under the modern left, a sense militaries if, if I decide right now, that I'm a woman, then Apparently, I'm a woman tell me

that same principle apply to other protected characteristics? For example, I'm I'm in a smack man, good good. I decide I was an asian man. Then there is tat. Grows, ok, define, ok, but is he is a confused. What's going on now. Is that good? He is being his full TED crews. I look at it. You ever is often take raises shoes from ever, since I have to answer my luck. What you want you wash your second grade class last year, third grade class last year. Fourth grade class election take last for everything in your life never won anything until you realize the only contest you can win and never lose. His big asshole, so congratulations, TED! You know just maybe you miss this, but he just came from the the Montana, airport, when he was screaming at a bunch of people, do you know who I am cuz? I don't even have enough he's having an issue at the airport wicked, like the thing it's so funny is the four

Cruz. He has spent his entire life being the most unlikable person in any organization room, whatever he's ever been in the only people who don't dis, like TED crews. Are the people who don't know him, and now these added people for not knowing him he's like. Why? Don't you need to know him is to loathe him. I mean that is just the truth. I thought that the best comment about trip Cruz's performance came from. Tommy Vietor who tweeted I know, politicians, yeah, nope, consistently looks as petty and small is TED Cruz is the, an equivalent of a flaccid penis in a freezing cold pool. I would say I just to give people a little peek behind curtain here when Tommy tweeted, that I texted it to him, and he said Is this not okay? I ran it by John and I said which John it is true. I you bother with lie asylum that yes, no eyes I to go there. at the time is said that there's no one, no one going to ever attack you for whatever you

about TED Cruz. Unless it's a compliment that you were correct, not a free shot at EDGAR's. Even Republicans, don't like TED Cruz, no one likes TED Cruz, I will say that one Tommy's tweet total cowards ratio, ten t is the number of likes and rts on that. You guys like that. We just go ahead. What's what's the takers quote? Is it Lindsey, Graham who said that if TED Cruz was murdered on the floor of the Senate, if the one what did it ever is born of the fourth set it no one which has to fight against the murder, correct, correct that was Linsey Grant He everything you need to know about. Why republicans do they did over the last three days, lay times photographer got a fantastic picture of TED Cruz searching. twitter for his own name, just after he finished yelling at Judge Jackson, including them.

ridiculous, quote that we had in that first clip which was: do you think that babies are racist like the egg it just? I read. First of all, yes, it was a complete outrage. What Republicans did on the Senate, like everyone should be mad about it? I was mad about It was also fucking clownish and ridiculous, and I don't want to let that part go either because TED Cruz, if you didn't see it like, blew up a picture of a book called Anti Racist baby blew it up, put on an easel and asked the Supreme Court nominee. If she thinks that babies are racist, it doesn't get more fucking nuts. that it does it mean there is A more serious that'd, be lots of more serious points and we'll get some of them. But many people pointed this out, but I think we should just reiterate it, which is.

the fact that Joe Jackson had to sit there and calmly take all of this. Bullshit is its offensive to her ass, a person and and it bespeaks a larger double standard in this country because take Brett, Kavanaugh friends, who got you take with Jill, lines of enquiry about credible allegation, sexual assault throw a fucking here, see fit. A giant asshole on the stand and it won him votes. It is not a thing a black woman can do in this country ass if she had to sit there and listen to these people patronize her demeanor. Worker record and sit there and take it and how she did that. I do not know It is to her great credit, I'm sure it's probably spinning entire life to bunch of assholes like this- maybe not always on national television. It's why she was sitting there in the first place, it's how she got there in the valleys and she'd also- and you know Britons before, but she's been through a couple of confirmations before

if she's a pro in every way, you know even the New York Times. not in an editorial and an analysis piece got exactly what was going on. They wrote from the Texas Republican seemed clear, a black woman. And for lifetime appointment on the highest court in the land, would coddle criminals go easy on pedophiles and subject white people to the view that they were by nature oppressors and not subtle? It was not really that subtle, I'll tell you what was the least subtle, thing in case you were wondering if, if, if the republican senators were still a little too subtle for you and what they were trying to do here, Mega youth media, star, Charlie Kirk, saying the quiet out loud on his show this week quote Catan Brown Jackson is what your country looks like on critical race theory your children and your grandchildren are going to have to take orders from people like her, and, what's amazing is that she has kind of an attitude to fucking gross, just gross. How do you think Judge Jackson and the Democrats on that

We handled all this bullshit. I mean she did a phenomenal job. I mean, I think, as I said we like, who knows how to any one, has the forbearance to put up with these people and answer it calmly. try to make sense of these asinine questions to make legitimate points about the kind of justice she would be make the case did a phenomenal job. I think some Democrats did better than others. Senator Booker gave a speech that was incredibly emotional and powerful and and was very worthy of the moment. I think other Democrats could have done more to push back on her behalf to call out other republicans for doing more explicitly this is the asymmetry of a lot of these hearings Democrats, either the House and Senate Republicans, them as s performance art for social media, cable, television and Democrats treat them The serious congressional hearing not

We should act like them, but we shouldn't we should not. We need to be able to dissipate and respond to their tactics more aggressively, and really they're just suggesting that they have exceeded their time limits right. It's like the problem is not that you're an asshole for six minutes and a five minute allotted time. The problem is you're an asshole right. I think that's the part we have to call out yeah. I just want to. I want to play a couple of clips here just to get You broke Jackson's voicing year, Inquiry Cory. Booker speech, which was I thought phenomenal. This is as close as Judge Jackson got two annoyed during this entire three days of really annoying bullshit from a publican people commit gave him three months. My question is: do you regret it or not, senator what I regret is that in a hearing about Michael qualifications to be

a justice almost Supreme Court. We spent a lot of time focusing on This small subset of my sentences. You know- and she goes on to talk about how you know any judge who has to decide a case that involves child abuse, like some of these cases that they were questioning her about. It is a grueling thing to go through you know, and, and if, if you know any judges have had to do this- and I do it is like you have to you- have to look through the images you have to read the testimony of the case. It is not easy n and she spoke eloquently. I thought about how awful and hard it was and how just just despicable these crimes.

r, and she in her sentencing is just right in the center with all these other judges, republican, nominated judges, Democrat nominated judges, judges that Josh Hawley voted for she's, given the same fucking sentences as they have for all other judges have, and yet she has to deal with this, because Josh Hawley decided that it would be a good line of attack that it was not just soft on crime, but also soft on child crime, which is a you know, dog whistle to the Fucking Q and on people who, by the way, got it because it was all over their message board. So they heard it. They heard the whistle and here's Cory. Booker's speech, which I thought was by far just the best of the week. It's hard for me not to look at you and not see my mom. Not to see my. My since one of them who come here and sit behind you. She had to be she have your back my ancestors and yours nobody's, going

deal with joy, that woman in the street or that call I'm getting whether texts nobody's gonna steal that joy. You have earned this. you are worthy. You are a eight American? I will just say that I thought no one made republican senators seems smaller than Corey. Bucker did the other day. No expression of outrage. burn, no tweet, no attack on Republicans from any other Democrats, like I, I guess, you're saying about you know. Other Democrats definitely could have done a little bit more, when you lecture, look through the hearings. You know they said it was grows and been Is that the hearings and how are we dealing with this and you know, you're putting words in the witness's mouth They did all that Dick Durbin did not get control of the cap Diddy and you know let them keep going and probably could have,

Would the mineral water for sure, but like they did attack the other public and centres, but that's not what is needed, and that must not necessarily what was going to stick with people. What was good Stick with people with people are going to take away from this and remember if they remember anything aside from those fucking awful gross attacks is what Corey Booker said there, and I think that only Corey Who could have done that, and I don't know that we needed another impassioned speech from like a white guy on the committee, like I want. What we needed was what Cory Booker said. Just then thought that well I'd like cried now, multiple times when I've heard that which is just it was in it was an amazing speedier I think you're exactly right about the power of Booker speech, why, but also the right approach. To return to first principles here, right, which is it is not like this hearing, is theoretically about the qualifications of the of this judge to become a supreme.

for justice. But when you hear in this sort of problem is trying to do is that in a very good as dragging us all into the might and losing sight of the bigger picture which is it is. Our Hernandez injustice that for the history of this country, there's never been a block will really nice its report. That's her! in that wrong is in writing. There is being read it with a tremendous qualified, brilliant woman apparently, incredibly patient woman. To do it add that I think that's why the number you know in that poll that we talked about earlier in this podcast are so high for her. That is to say, you know whether it was Elena Kagan or Al Gore, search for Republicans or whatever else was if this was a moment. People recognize that moment in Cory. Booker reminded us of that moment. That's what horrible reporters are trying. That's part of the tactic you're in with some efficacy Guess it took us until the I of a fifteen Spock Ass, to hear judge accents voice.

Right to talk about TAT and now kudos to Cory Booker for sort of thinking about politics. In a bigger way and reminds us of the greater truth year and that's what cuts through all the bullshit- and I think what Democrats need to keep in mind- is

one of the most important things he said was I'm not letting anyone in the Senate steal my joy, Cassandra, Brown Jackson is going to get confirmed she's fifty one years old, she's going to be on the Supreme Court for a long time should be the first black woman to serve on the Supreme Court after far far too long, and she is going to have a huge impact and not just a symbolic impact, but in the actual decisions that she hands down, and hopefully she can hand them down at some point when the liberal justices are in the majority, but we're going to get her on the court and that's the win and and people should feel very proud of that, and you should not let yourself get dragged down in the mud with Republicans, because that is what they want. Our friend Heather Mcghee really made me think with a tweet where she she tweeted the picture of Cruz. Looking for his own name- and she said you know, this is why I haven't amplified

a lot of the republican comments over the last couple days, even to attack them even to disagree with them, because that's what they want. They want us to argue about the bullshit that they said they want us to remember that that's what they said and what we should take away from this hearing is working time. You Brown Jackson, said about herself about her record about her life, but her qualifications and what Corey Booker said about what this moment truly means for her for black Americans and for the entire country, and that we should take away from this this period in the last year or so has been cut. Frustrating for a lot of progressive right, a lot of the things that we hope to get done of run into your mansion recourse in sit up and all of that, but the fact that it cannot you, Baroness Ashton, was sitting they're in that you're enrolled yesterday and it's going to be confirm. The supreme Court is only because of the work people did in the. Essential action and in Georgia.

And so for whatever things that we wanted to get done, we have not gotten done yet that hugely important, incredible thing that is going to last for decades happen, because a bunch of people did a whole bunch of really when organizing and work and like so, if you're looking for reasons to remember what felt so good. This is one of them. Yeah, you wonder why you did the work. This is why you do the work. We talked a little bit about this on Tuesday's pod, but even though a lot of the antics from the hearings were just Republicans being Republicans, it also seemed like they were testing out lines of attack for the midterms on their favorite culture, war issues, crime, critical race theory transgender rights? I know you wrote a message box about this today? What are your? What are your thoughts. Republicans have two strategies for twenty twenty two and One of them is they have to keep their base at a fever pitch and All of this cultural war stuff is about it's about weaponizing race in crime.

And demagogic, Trans community and everything Else- is to scare the living shit out of their base right. The war over white base but they want to do that for their base and then which they believe they can communicate with directly through Fox Facebook. Whatever bizarre right wing a machine, but then also have a separate message that is about inflation in gas prices adds wherever we are in the pandemic, an election day Compton so there. This is that this is the first point about trying to keep people as fired up as pie it's a ball to get as much turnout as they can possibly get in, which is why they, you know it's: it's not an accident that they made these explicit appeals to Cuban on because you know it is less. We should be very specific about what that what that is given on is a cold, that the FBI has gotten message, Tarifa and Republicans. Now. damn as part of the coalition, because for all of

discussion of the strength they have in this election because of inflation. or gas prices present binds providing. political position of Republicans continues to deteriorate nationally. Their base shrinking as a percentage of the country, and so they need cuban answer. This is this is explicit appeal to keep those people in the base yeah. No, I think it's a very good point that you for public and just get their base excited outraged overall, the shit as they like to do- that's probably not enough for them What they have also is this message about inflation and chaos everywhere, and aren't you just unhappy with the way things are going in the country, particularly the economy, right? Of course, they may end up winning the midterms. Based on that message. That's not what gets them up in the morning right, what what Some up in the morning is picking fights about race and sex and gender and identity, and that's what they then you

on these hearings that that's what they really care about, but it is, it is tricky for them because some of the voters they may get by saying. Aren't you just pissed off about inflation? Don't you think Biden should have fixed it by now. Do not agree with them on all of these positions that they took this week. That people saw on tv, and I actually think that I think that they over reached by quite a good deal in this hearing, because it's like they, I think they seemed obsessed with race and sex and gender in a way where you know, like I said, TAT, TED Cruz's, blowing up a kids book, Marsha Blackburn is asked the Supreme Court on the need to define the word woman. I mean it seems like an obsession again, I'm not talking about the base. The base loves us. The base gets it. The base gets outrage over the shit, but for most people who don't follow this, it seems fucking weird. It seems weird fuckin obsession and also like you know this was a part of the hearing, but Might Braun

a republican senator from Indiana said during an interview about Judge Jackson's confirmation on Tuesday that he'd be open to the Supreme Court overturned Its nineteen sixty seven ruling that legalized inter racial marriage and Okay, with that with the Supreme Court, leaving that issue up to the states? Also contraception as well, here's a clip, so you be: okay with the Supreme Court, leaving the question of interracial marriage to the states. Yes, I think that that's something if you're not wanting the Supreme Court the weigh in issues like that not going to be able to have your cake and eat it too. I think that's hypocritical, not going to be able to have your cake and eat it too, inter racial marriage they went on to ask him about Griswold versus Connecticut, which is case about contraception. He said the same thing with that too. So that's contraception here he's just now

Five percent of Americans support, interracial marriage and just I've never thought we have to bring out that number from a foal, but just mean or nasty. Five percent of people support interracial marriage. Seventy eight percent support birth control, access to fucking, birth control in this country You know, Mark Joseph Stern at slate pointed something else out which store to get lost in the hearing. John Cornyn during the hearing went after Oberg Rafael, which is the decision that legalizes same sex marriage in this country and, lest you think that, because over, if I was decided in twenty fifteen that Republicans have given up on attacking same sex marriage, Not so not so because John Cornyn during the hearing started going after Oberg, Rafael and basically let them know that that's that's what they want their justices to do, that's what they want. Conservative justice to do is under is to overturn over to fell and that's seventy five percent support for gay marriage in this country.

You know I wasn't expect to hear all that this week, especially my brand talking about it. Interracial marriage, where you were, Were you more surprised by that? on one name Might Braun said that there was some one day might Braun her source nice. It said it I do not use the senator from Indiana, apparently apparently so yes, I mean, he made it. He made this lame attempt to clean up the statement later on which you all heard it. I I you know we played the clip we didn't have. like you know what he tried to clean up. Let's make sure everyone can, it just that Barry was right there. I don't think that was a. I don't think that was a mistake. It was a mishap. It was a yes or no question he answered. Yes, there is what I mean, I think there is something to be taken from this- connects to the earlier discussion about how the Republicans have been trying to weaponize race

in class and what I was most struck by other than a city Unite said: the United States enters a hippie okay with states banning interracial marriage. Is almost no Democrats talked about it. It just came and went and yeah I I you know United Scottish on you know, there's nothing. I fucking hate more than the people who never worked in politics who does have access to twitter, who constantly geo about Democrats, doing more fight harder, do more, have more power. conferences that people don't I have no idea. What is the types of decisions of positions have to make him how hard it is get your message out and they never sort of account for the democratic messaging disadvantage, or that there is no one person in charge if the party- but this is one of those situations where Democrats should have done more because Why is this not just one statement? by one random set over who we discovered existed twenty four hours ago. What

is this is essentially the truth. The underbelly of the entire republican message. The republican message is make America great again. It is a story of message. It is that the argument is that America Is getting more diverse, it's changing! We are heading towards a multiracial democracy and that Multi racial democracy, is bad for you, white people And so we are going to return to the period before that before voting rights before so rights before the Supreme or legalize interracial marriage, and when people I wanted to tell you something that is supported by five percent of the country: court of their message. You have you hammer them over the fucking heads on it. Yes, there is a lot going on there, you're more than enough information or if Israel, core justice you could in gas prices, everyone saying tacos or about that, but I do think there's. This learned helplessness among Democrats. That is, if the topic is race or crime.

an automatic loser for us, so we have to immediately ignore it. Let the pitch go by try to get on a more favorable territory, and we know Republicans because other messaging power, dictate the terms of the conversation in it up the conversation America. So we have to figure out how to take those issues on and win and then be able to move to more favorable to rate, and so have a republic just imagine for a second. If the shoe was on the other foot and a democrat sets like that, imagine what the republic it's? What done? What Fox, have done their statements on the floor of the Senate. The tweets- and there was nothing lots of democratic activists. Talked about it? Some? You know democratic groups pushed it, but Official establishment. Democratic party left this pitch go by and there aren't that many pitches left until two thousand and twenty two. I think the problem is some Democrats treat all of these culture war issue

It's the same in may believe that they are all divisive and that we shouldn't talk about them, because you know some. Sometimes it's unpopular and look. There are some positions that we hold as Democrats on cultural and racial issues that aren't as popular, but we hold them because it's the right thing to do and that's our values and we believe in them and good for us. this. What we saw this week, it the Republicans going after interracial, marriage, gay marriage, birth control. That is not something anyone needs to be afraid of. That is something the Democrats should be shouting from the rooftops. Ninety five percent support. Seventy five percent support, eighty per cent support these are issues that we are on the right. This is issue that splits the Republican Party right. This unites Democrats,

This is seventy eighty percent. Ninety percent support among independents and probably half repub half of republican voters believe these things too, and Democrats should absolutely march away from these hearings being like. We saw this week that Republicans told the country that, if they returned to power, they want to go after interracial marriage. They want to go after gay marriage. They want to go after your contraception. That's the! if the judicial system that they want in this country, you know and if you're not doing that? What are you doing? Ah, maybe they will? Maybe they will it's just been a week Let's talk about what else Democrats can do to respond to these lines of attack ahead of the midterms. The national Republican Congressional Committee delete an internal pulled, the political this week that showed Republicans ahead on the generic ballot by four points. In seventy seven, competitive districts. They Joe Biden, won by an average of five point five points in twenty twenty. Seventy five percent of voters in these districts say the Democrats are quote out of touch or condescending

and those who identify the economy or inflation as their top concern. Support Republicans by over twenty points is an internal and our Cecy Paul. So obviously it should be taken with a huge grain of salt, but if you're Dietrich will see Chair Sean Patrick Maloney and democratic candidates in those districts. How? If it all, does what you heard this week from those republican senators change or shape your campaign going forward? It is yet another argument for why making this election more of a choice unless a referendum is too hard for matic advantage. Republicans have unpopular positions, they are obsessed with cultural issues that are massively detached from the huge challenges in american families are facing. Instead of work, Gas prices are the cost of things at the grocery store. They are. I guess, on policing, kids box overtime. Getting rid of gay marriage deciding who marries, who gay marriage, interracial marriage? We have to go on offense and there That may not be enough. This is a brutal political environment by

it sure, as hell better than what it is, has been happening. So we have to go on offense. We have to attack the Republican We have to do it with a unified voice, the singular message we have to there is no were run it we're not running local campaigns or not. This is data. Did this? Is generic democratic and sooner if republican people action like generic Democrats, better generic Republicans. They really like generic democratic policy, burgeoned Eric Republicans, and so, Let's go have the argument yeah it's it's actually a lot more simple than people make it out to be. We need to remind people of their extreme positions and remind them they will turn those positions into laws if they win. These are extreme right wing culture warriors who will fuck with your life. If they win, they will fuck with they will fuck with you over who you are, who you love? Who you marry? What

You look like what you do with your own body. What kind of healthcare you can get? How easy it is for you to vote whether your vote will even count. They will not take care of you. They will not protect you. They will not make you rich. They only care about themselves, making themselves rich, protecting themselves, taking care of themselves. That's who they are. As a party, You're upset the country, things are going well understandable. This is the alternative. Would they have offered this week pretty cool? message, the messages it could be worse. I mean, do we want to be honest? It could be worse It would definitely be worse. Yes, yeah, there's all a number of wonderful policies. The Democrats have that, if only we had a couple more depth Frederick senators would make a huge difference in people's lives, so fats, the other, that's the other. Messages. Well, we had a lot of good stuff that your mentioning Pearson in been fucking with it. If you give us two more senators, we could actually pass into law so that,

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I did well today, it's been a month since brushes and Ukraine began where's every day we see new images of brutality in and terrible thing happening in Ukraine, and so this was a special NATO summit. Normally, as you know, these summits take months and months and months to prepare? But This was something that was not planned a month ago. This was just put together just been really in the last week, and so it's an opportunity, President Biden to be in Brussels. Twenty nine other NATO leaders and then also he's going to be seeing leaders of the g7 as well as European Union, Sir over the twenty four hour span here. This is an opportunity for the president to ask checks, those with all of our before in partners who have all contributing to this effort to support Ukraine and punish Russia but also to chart a way ahead on some of the things that were worried about happening in the future. Regarding this conflict,

issues as we sort of look at what's happening. There are sort of like two things that I think are true. At the same time, one is anyone who looks at the sanctions that have been put into to put into date by the US, NATO all the partners they been very damaging to the russian economy, to the old Fun Putin's efforts same time. It does not seem to have stopped, certainly not stop the or even really hemmed in some of the atrocious and horrendous things that President Putin is doing. and you can other more levers. The president wants to is or thinks he's trying to get his allies to agree to hear that will put additional pressure on Russia sure well there's more sanctions that are being outlined right now, and the fact that today, the president outlined another three hundred some russian individuals, members of the Duma, other government leaders that the United States is going to be sanctioning as well as other defense entities as we continue

you go at the various pieces of the russian economy. That's fueling this conflict and also enabling Putin to stay in power At the same time, the Europeans are also going to be putting additional sanctions on which is particularly meaningful because of extent, of Europe's economic relationship with Russia, which is much larger than the u or relationship importantly- and this is something the presence can be talking about with European Union Leadership- is why working with Europe on their own energy independence, because the area where Europe and Russia have the deepest relationship on energy, and so what Europe gets a good chunk of its energy supply eyes from Russia has for many years. So that is a point of leverage there. Russia has over Europe, Europe is nevertheless who for it on sanctions, many of which, I think surprised a lot of folks about the, degree of which Europe was willing to go forward on meaningful sanctions against Russia and they're willing to do more but important.

I talked to them about ways we can. We, the United States, can help european partners become more energy independent. so they're less reliant on Russia and that's more of a long term strategy to deal with Russia's influence in the region. Yeah there's some short term things we can do to help bridge. You have these remaining cold months to get through the summer and the fall, but Yes, this is something that you're not going to be able to wean Europe offers. In energy in a matter of months, so he gets going to take years to do that, and so another important aspect of this trip has to do with the refugee crisis in Europe. Is I mean President Biden, Hence to address the reports today that the United States is prepared to accept upwards of one hundred thousand. You in refugees and make a significant resource commitment. To the region. What can you tell us about that? So I mean this is the largest refugee crisis we've seen in Europe since the Second World war. There more than three million folks who've left Ukraine and then there's

more than double that displaced within Ukraine. So at this point about a quarter of Ukraine's population is displaced and what that means is that they have left their home, so they are either somewhere else in Ukraine seeking safety and shelter or they have cross the border and become refugees, the the that is being a boar, bind the poles, and so the polls right now have over two million refugees from Ukraine that Imprison prison Biden will be going to to meet with some of these refugees over the weekend and then also meet with the polish government, because the polish government, in there people are sacrificing a huge amount, so United States. We got to do our part, and so part of that is with the presents and that would be willing to take up to one hundred thousand ukrainian refugees. That is significant number of units that number itself is more than refugees. All around the world that we take a year annually. it is unclear frankly how many of these refugees

You would want to come to unite United States. At this point of view, I think a lot of folks who've left. Scream because of the war They want to go back once the war ends, it would make sense, they want to go back to their homes and so, but we Unless you're willing to take up to one hundred thousand- and I think that's That'S- We can do right now, given the magnitude of this crisis. The element of this that I know is on the agenda, for the medium term of NATO is the potential for cyber attacks on the? U S or NATO partners Nevsky I saw Jake Sullivan talk a lot about this the other day. What can you tell us about what the United States is doing to prepare for such a acts and how we thinking or with the discussions, are happening with our allies, but what a response to those attacks would look like sure obviously, we been worry about russian cyber attacks for quite some time. The preceding this crisis and we ve been the victim. We take a rest and cyber attacks of less every years so

part. What we try to do is is build our resilience and make sure that the particularly critical The structure is protected as best. We can also the US s government these, and we have information or getting information out to industry and to produce partition those who would be most vulnerable to a russian cyberattack, trying to build awareness among the american people as well, and so that's why glad you asked me about it, because I think you all of us, the victimized by russian cyberattack in some shape or another, and so other. We haven't seen a surly evidence that one is looming and we have to be vigilant and ready for one but then also, we've been very clear to the Russians that that that would cross a line and Are you present Biden when he was with them by the report? last summer in Geneva. When they had a summit meeting there, shortly after the Colonial pipeline attack, which I took off I know energy pipeline and it was it was it

is attributed to to criminal network? certainly the back by the russian government, but you know present bind said to President Putin. In the wake of that look, you got a crackdown on these guys. You gotta do something about this, because you know you know I don't u pipelines to in boy with you be pretty easy for you if some of those went offline, so you know, I think we, the Good NEWS is we haven't seen evidence of that. Yet the bad news is, we have to be ready for it and be vigilant in case. One of those attacks were to happen. It something pretty find talked about with NATO allies. In my years, are going back and forth the NATO meetings in its it's been an ongoing discussion at NATO for many years about what the alliance can do so working with other countries to try to do for those attacks, but then also respond, if they, if they were yesterday Secretary Blinkin reaffirmed a statement that the President Biden made recently said Thing that the Russians have engaged in workshops- and this was so-

but he made a more for more detailed presentation of that case canoe what is the sort of substantive legal value of that, and where does it go from here? Sure well is said in that last week the President and the Secretary of State said that, their opinion, their work on for being committed inside Ukrainian. We just needed its use our own eyes to see that happening with our hospitals gaining bomb, the right shelters that are clearly identified with children in their being bombed, its aid as a war crime to intentionally target civilian areas, and that is that is happening, so What was announced the other day you're at the State Department, was the the in its evidentiary work that has done some some research, gathering of the data that could could conclusive We say that WAR Grimes had been, it'd. Now there's various legal. also sees under way, and they are national community. There is an international criminal court which, of course, the United States is not here. but we can contribute.

And to extend cases are going to come from. and so what are the reasons why we did this yesterday is to make clear that day this is happening in theirs. It evident Jerry Basis for it, but that be There needs to be accountability, Interesting this week is a little off topic, but on Monday of this week, Secretary Blinken, with the Holocaust, museum here in Washington and announced closure and that he had made the safe harbour and bade the genocide had occurred in Burma? several years ago and that's something that took a lot of research and time to come to that conclusion. and even though these crimes that those crimes were committed several years ago, it was important. as here today, four years later, to talk about it to show that we are watching and it there's a accountability, and so as part of why we wanted to make this announcement yesterday? This is going to start a process that the Euro, we part of the international community to ensure

If there is accountability for the actions that are taking place today in Ukraine down the road, so just to kind of dig it on this attack because the? U S is not apart, like Russia, not a part of the international criminal court, the if another country work where maybe this is part of plan were to make a finding too that core in the? U S words by evidence that he ended his acrid, for here we can provide information for it for that case, and in so that part of what we want, we I started doing that when the invasion started, he put together a team here in the: U S government to to accrue the evidence and sort of keep an eye on everything and the extent we have information that could corroborate anything what we're seeing on with our own eyes mean that's swimming, is remarkable about this war is so much of it and folding right in front of us in real time are either citizen journalists on the ground or are the all of the journalists we ve got the out there in the field, so this was just the formal

the nature basis of the war crimes. I know another topic of discussion among the: U S and in our allies over the course of this twenty four hour period will be is about the potential for Russia to you weapons of mass destruction there have been some concerns raised about the potential for using chemical weapons and even nuclear weapons and in fact, a prick. disturbing report in it's a day or so that suggested that US military officials were unable to get russian officials on the phone to have conversations that may seem weird to folks now like. Why would they talk on, but even in the height of cold war right. Those China was very important. Keep those back channels open so that no one misunderstood something exacted had ended the world and it was an accident these ideas are What is the level of concern about that? Are there other back channels were unaware of, or just communications happening, that more in the normal course of business. Here you know what how

What was the conversation like about this concern so We are very concerned about it in one of the reasons why I were concerned is Russia's talking a lot about it in, as we ve seen in playbook? They tend to assert that? the Ukraine is using chemical weapons or Ukraine and the? U S are: are creating chemical weapons on the roads. The bio lab conspiracy for a totally bogus right- and this is this- is right. I playbook, but that then creates a pretext or justification in their minds for the use of such weapons. So haven't seen indications that are preparing for that. However, we are hearing them say publicly and raise concerns about Ukraine. Chemical weapons, which again, is completely bogus so that's why we need to be vigilant about about this. It's wanted things that President Biden talked about today: NATO and with other european leaders about here,

from them about their concerns within also thinking about what we may I do in response or how we could, how we could desperate For that it. Actually, NATO made some decisions today. I didn't get. Nato is a military alliance and so for it NATO military to coordinate on response options. in terms of how, if, if God forbid a chemical weapon used there could be a real danger to european countries with you know, plumes of chemical weapons aerials flowing across borders about how we can best defend ourselves from there dark. Last question: I know another huge first, sixty blink in in the binding ministration is trying to read. constitute a nuclear agreement with IRAN. happening in Russia has created them. Applications. For that everything can tell me about progress, you're making and how you're navigating the situation that Russia is a poll was a part of the original agreement plays an important role in what a new agreement would look like. So Russia has been part of the of the process.

Going back to the original, ran agreement, negotiated, the Obama administration as part of the negotiations with the Iranians to to curb their their nuclear program really up until this crisis, it's up until the invasion. They had been relatively constructive, of those negotiations. Are they weren't throwing up roadblocks or anything? I we we hit a wrinkle a few weeks ago with them, but I think that could be ironed out, but we have. We are still not in an agreement. Yet, with return to that of the so called the J C P way that the iranian Nuclear deal I think are perspective is Dan, first see that we inherited the policy of the last several years now of so called maximum pressure against IRAN has not worked at all. It's made IRAN's program, more dangerous nuclear program, more dangerous and it's made IRAN and were dangerous actor throughout the Middle EAST. We believe the getting back to the chase you Peter, which puts IRAN's nuclear programme in a box, is the best way for, I think particularly

Given the moment wherein where we were just talking about the possible use of WMD in Ukraine, the law Last thing we need is another nuclear crisis in the world happened simultaneously. So we are not there yet it a deal, and I dont know whether we will be able to finish the deal with iranian skills. We still have some details to figure out but If we do entered the deal re enter the deal, I think we would make us safer Shall I thank you so much during some positive mark, and I will let you get back to this very very busy day. I imagine you thank you Great beer, preceded pots of MECCA, is brought. You buy square space Squarespace is the only one platform for building your brand and growing your this online build that brand love? It stay

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when is coming to save us, has new episodes out every Thursday on Apple Spotify, Amazon or wherever you get your podcasts. okay, before we go some good ish news for your weekend from NBC. First read quote when Donald Trump travels to Georgia. This for his latest rally, he'll arrive in his weakest political position in months within his own party. Here's why in Georgia polls show the Trump back David Perdue trailing Governor Brian Kemp, despite Trump appearing in multiple Purdue ads, in Missouri Trump is now hinting that he may end his flirtation with endorsing Eric Greitens after court filings revealed, the former governor's Ex wife accused him of physically abusing her and their three year old son to the point where she slept in the child's room to protect him, fucking, revolting and in Alabama. The former president made some news this week when he rescinded his endorsement of Alabama Senate candidate Mo Brooks because

works is badly trailing his opponents, but obviously from needed to concoct a better reason and that so he released to stay I saying that Brooks who famously urged Janney worry sixth rally goers to quote start taking down names and kicking ass- has in Trump's words gone woke. Then, what's evidence for going woke This is truly my favorite story in months because Mo Brooks that's a high that it will. No, not if you look at the the news we've been getting on thursdays for awhile here by Gertrude is my favorite Thursday story. There have been a lot of other good stories, but Mo Brooks is a fucking lunatic. He says insane stupid things. Twenty four seven says one thing is not insane and that the Donald Trump there is nothing legal authority to

in State Donald Trump and remove Joe Biden from the White House right here and now? is one thing. Donald Trump calls him woke in an indoor system. It is just fucking nothing. Has ever better explained these days of the Trump era Republican Party than that say one thing, and you are: It's just fucking great did you? Did you read the interview that Mo Brooks gave when he talked about this? There was that when Trump was with him, it was around labor Day last year in September, and- and he basically tells Brooks- I Want you to rescind the twenty twenty election and hold it's special election in emergency like to put me back in the White House and get Joe Biden out of there, and he got Mo Brooks one of the craziest fucking members of Congress, we like war, where I am. I am just there. Just a country lawyer, but I do not believe that I have the power to reinstate

Oh, it's so good, it's so good I know he talked about Trump's endorsement effect on other Senate races last week. But what do you think about how much it matters in these three states, Georgia, Alabama and Missouri apparently it doesn't matter very much at all. I mean he can't Alabama right? He cannot help Mo Brooks Even the arm of rocks went woke on him. In Georgia, his candle at least Herschel Walker, who sent again is doing very well, but her treasure Walker does not need Donald Trump to be doing. Well, I mean there is real evidence that on. Support is not worth as much as everyone assumed. It was now that doesn't I mean that active opposition might be might not be very damaging to people. Simply having Donald Trump Indoor shoe is not the golden ticket to Congress that it was potentially was a few years ago that has changed for sure yeah. This is one more notable trump story.

We should talk about that broke late Wednesday night in the New York Times. This one is much more frustrating than anything else. Or in the times reported last month that Manhattan District attorney Alvin Bragg had decided to stop pursuing a criminal indictment against Trump for his corrupt business dealings. Well, the times get a cup we have the resignation letter submitted by one of the top prosecutors in the case mark Pomerantz, who wrote in the letter that he believed the former president was quote guilty of numerous felony violations that there was enough evidence to prove Trump guilt, Beyond a reasonable doubt and that it was a quote, grave failure of justice for brag not to hold them accountable and move forward with the indictment. What was your so that story wine. Just as you read it was like

at the time stumble on the resignation letter. Did they find it in mark promise is trash. Why can't? They just say that mark comrades gave it to him, which he has every right to do and I'm glad he fucking did, but it's like you're, not Woodward and Bernstein, getting something from deep throat in the parking lot right. It's just like, so they emailed it to you, although you might as well, he might as well just tweeted out the letter. I know huge whatever they should've just put it on a notes app, but he'd. Never he'd have a million twitter followers right thinking that he would have if he had just Enron, did the times like it'd, be like Occupy Democrats RT, if you think I mean I just I envision people staring at the Supreme Court and watching the of impeachment Eagle flying in, and thinking I mean

One thing we learn from the story that was that was news is that Cyrus Vance the last day right before he left office, had in fact decided to pursue a criminal indictment of Donald Trump like it was going to happen and then fuckin Alvin over and backed off. Well, what's going on here that like to know more about why that happened, why brag backed off yeah I mean it. Seems like if you're reading the when, when I read the story, a couple times try to figure this out, it seemed like what they had decided to move forward with the case they thought was going to be. The easiest to prove is that Trump had falsified his business records, the prosecutors pomeranz and his partner.

Both believed that there was enough evidence to prove the trumpet knowingly falsified the records. It seems like brag thought that, yes, the records were were false, but that maybe it would be harder to prove the trump knew that they were false or the new, which you know. Clearly the prosecutors disagree. Now, look in these cases. Prosecutors disagree with their supervise it all the time. Sometimes, supervisors don't bring a case that prosecutors very much want them to bring its very much out of school, for then a prosecutor to go out and publicize the fact that they thought that someone guilty that they were going to charge without charging them like. You wouldn't want that to happen. In many cases we should say I know that's Donald Trump, so we say whatever, but like that's, not a normal practice, but it does also suggests that but Bragg's official line. Right now is: oh we're continuing the investigation. If you is continually investigation in there might be a chance that he indict Trump, then Palm ran

Putting that letter out actually harms that investigation, which makes you think that Pomeranz released the letter, because he actually knows that Bragg is never going to bring the charge against Trump, which suck stand. We've been it's so long waiting for that impeachment Eagle Two, it's not even an impeachment of the law. He didn't die. It's an indictment. We've been doing this for so long as it is evolves into the indictment Eagle made to sort of tie this in a bow as a professional podcaster should this. It seems why at least somewhat adjacent to the fact of the Republicans are running around accusing democrats of being soft on crime when there are chosen party leader the person who, holds fundraiser, so them who attends rallies for them who they are willing to storm the capital for is fucking criminal right, a metal. It either be

being a trump enabling republican means. You are soft on crime right and like a point. We could point out at some point in addition to yelling fun the police, at the top of our lungs. We could, further. The republican party has been helping their leader avoid Krim, prosecution for years now they love they love crime when it's one of when it's one of their own It is that, when it's committed by a powerful Republican, wherever whatever white in white collar crime, We can't top that that, thank you actually for joining us today, that's just out. There actually had to do with love it and Judd Apatow on the Monday pod big. Thank you to for joining us today. and go by pre order battling the big lie have agreed. weekend- and we will talk to you-

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