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unfortunately, that I don't think I keep me. I knew tat. I appreciate the afternoon on today's provide, for today's part, Joe Biden, to rally the world to save the planet of Joe Mansion is still holding up as climate agenda back home. Donald Trump Wade's into file data, the Virginia gubernatorial contest and why you are. Professor Melissa Murray is back to talk about today Supreme Court oral arguments over the Texas Abortion LE, but before we start it tell us about Europe upcoming show in New York. It's almost here. It's almost here two weeks to love relieved at the Beacon data very exciting. Is that now in New York City of New York City, we gotta listen, I'm saying is we got a big confirmation, Yesterday, up until now, a lot of pretty exciting passes lives a yet finally landed Aragon. Gm finally got we ve only got and begin mayor from Adam congratulate a veto. compromise. Tat. New York user can pick up like a seven foot tall guidance counselor who seem so. I guess I M followed by a vague and cop

a tiny, a tiny billionaire aid soda and before that a person whose I'm done This string could happen in a way that is like a lie anyway. By working people buy tickets, cricket outcomes, hush events take up your grades. Immigrant, let's get to the news. President Biden spoke at a global Climate Summit Glasgow Scotland on Monday that open with some pretty desperate warnings about What happened to life on this planet? If most world leaders don't do dramatically more than their doing to reduce carbon emissions over the next decade, you and Secretary Antonio Gutierrez said that, where quote careening towards climate catastrophe and quote giving our own graves even Uk Prime Minister bores Johnson compared the climate crisis to a doomsday bomb, that's about to expire. Food and while the leaders of China and Russia to the biggest carbon emitters on the planet refused to show up to the summit, Biden use the moment to apologize for Donald Trump decision to pull out of the Paris climate Accords and pledge more action

from the United States, here's a club. I guess I should apologise, but I do apologise for the fact. The United States, the last administration pulled out of the purse. Cords put us behind the April, nor by this the challenge of our collective lifetimes, the existential threat threat to human existence, as we know it. and every day we delay caused and actually increases so This be the moment we answer histories call here in Glasgow. Apology tore her it still early, but so far I'd say that Glasgow doesn't feel is optimistic, as the summit in Paris did back in that twenty fifteen. Would you guys think about their coverage? You read so far bingo another. There was a low point: we're gonna tune Burg through a bucket, a polar bear, blood, a manual mccrone guy that was weird I want you know that I was going to say Antonia the terrorists which had been a funny or name to use, but you, through many interests over you tell me

Consequently, I like projects. I think the coverage reflects the fact that this is an urgent problem. and that, but even the pledges that countries are bringing to this conference don't do enough to reduce emissions by the that we need to reduce them to stay. Underneath the one point, five celsius- temperature increase by the end of the century, not be door. for a second, but that's the jobs. Even the package is they're. Making don't meet the moment and desert is pledges. They are not backed by laws or policies in a lot of case. So I understand the scepticism, but that's why you do the summit right. I mean that Harris Climate Accords kind of pulled a rabbit out of a hat. It was really important moment

to build on that. We had trump for four years who set us back, but emissions have gone down. You mean, like eighty percent of global emissions are produced by the G20 countries, and so we have to be the ones to solve it, so that we get the other yeah. It's tough, when the pledges don't get you to one point five and that there are also not all living up to the pledge and if I don't get you to one point, five resolutely couple problems that we're dealing with other Jezreel EM, it's thanksgivings over everybody's there's dishes everywhere in someone's like off somewhere to clean it up by enshrine like it would be great if you could have brought to the table.

An agreement that has been passed that had five hundred fifty five billion in climate funding, but hopefully he'll be able to save them. Look. This is on the table. Hope we will get there by Christmas ransacked by this later, but you maybe that's a new deadline for Congress in so that would be significant in Juba. Mccarthy EPA administrator is is noting there that you know, or even before we hopefully get this bill passed by Congress as have a trillion dollars and investment clean energy. The administrations embraced higher fuel efficiency, dinner for cars, advanced, went in solar projects; they begun working to reduce emissions of potent greenhouse gases, such as methane and each of seas. So, there's all the executive action they taking as well. Some other hopeful news I fought from Monday was India pledges to get to net zero by twenty. Seventy would be nice if it was twenty fifty other than better but better than nothing. You know that that India is obviously a huge carbon emitter and them making that pledge was big Tommy. What you make of China and Russia GIS skipping the summit. I think it's

Pretty bad. I mean that China and Russia at the number one and number four in terms of missions per country, is if you were to rank them. So you know the consensus that the world needs to get to Netzero by two thousand and fifty, and I think both Russia and China have proposed two thousand and sixty is there tar they're already proposing to miss the targets. It gets a little way like she jumping hasn't left the country in almost two years. Things been twenty one months since he left the country is pre covers something weird and Baker going on with you have one of those things where I have to get back into Society Gazette, but our crowds and Y yeah she's, ok, packing, doesn't have to small talk. That's exactly right, but you know China good again, with China, we need China to get on board and to stop burning coal specifically, but they have said that their emissions will peak red around twenty thirty, whereas most countries are pledging cuts,

Oh it's bad. She jumping the leaders of water to developing countries say: hey America, hey Europe, you guys have been belching out carbon for decades. You should pay us to take these steps to reduce our carbon emissions, because that's how you grew greener economy, how we switch to growers. I understand that european leaders are trying to push she Mccrone and running. Boris Johnson talked him less week. Third, the Russia, the examples even more cynical. I think me a lot of cynics point out that, like yes, we all have a long term need to deal with climate change, but in the short term, some farmers in Siberia don't necessarily mind that its melting of the Arctic is also halting and open new shipping lanes for the Russians that there's a lot of competing interests here that The oil and gas are not necessarily looking for the prices drop, so you know it's it's complicated, but it's not good that there are other as anything they. Like correctly pointed China has the world's number one

MR banal per person still out right now like well one thing that was common in all of the speeches today from world leaders or all the speeches so far from where leaders is that none of them really committed to getting rid of fossil fuels. Right. There's lives like about net zero and hitting certain emissions targets in the middle the century, but whether it's a rich country like the United States, whether its China, whether its India, like known as hung about it's time, to get rid of coal, which is a huge problem because we were not gonna, get there without getting rid of fossil fuels to go like you can see this, but I'm reaching up into the air and applying the carbon out of it. That will be Pisa. While love love, it's figured it out. Some good news pew reject Pew Europe. Piano appalling about in the interesting.

Like climate sentiment, and they have found that concern about climate change has risen dramatically and a lot of countries in France in Mexico. It's been dramatic, I think, now more than eight and ten people in those countries now say, climate change is a major threat. That's up thirty points from twenty thirteen. That sentiment is up. Nineteen points in it states, so people shine a carrier seeing like green parties doing well in Europe so like that there is. There is growing, support its added value and needs to be, but it's happening it's out there. Yet we have enjoyed support here. Just majority support doesn't get anything done in this country, any more because of the unanimity rule in the climate, change incited So your mentioned skull, speaking of which is an invention, Tommy Good said, where you're welcome by an obviously want to be able to the world. The United States has passed the most ambitious climate bill in history, which again the build up better plan, would be the past, but your mention had other ideas. Here is at a press conference today that he said would quote clear up a lot of things. I will not support.

the reconciliation legislation without knowing how the bill will impact our debt narcotic. in our country. You won't know that until we worked through the text, I'm open to supporting a final bill that helps move our country, Ford, but I am equally open to voting against a bill that hurts. Our country have been very clear about that. Also that clear enough for you guys super clear again into go figure it out interest. That was, he seemed just annoyed about something else. It was like a sub tweet. I think something annoyed him. I decided to watch you Tom, you told me it was on. I decided to like watch, live and then not watch. The reaction on Twitter, as like I'm just gonna, try to figure a dimension of my own wiechert sexting about it that so far the sounds bad and I was I no note now is turning now it sounds, but no nope. Now it's bad again into each. His went like it was. Not, I don't understand,

China is in his own head, didn't wanna. Do optimistic, take pessimistic, take from this press conference, the optimistic take format. that. There is actually no words inside of what he actually said like you could have given it to a different performer. And gotten a version of the press conference. That actually was more optimistic. He seemed annoyed and frustrated, but he didn't actually go against anything he's previously committed to or come out against, supporting, build back better. It seems like there's. Ah, he has concerns about the overall costs, but because it's true reconciliation, that's kind of the process of reconciliation is supposed to make short, doesn't add to the debt in the law.

terms? So it's all a bit confused and it seems like more like a moral positioning than actual political positioning to me. I know you ve spent all his time up there like crying but civility in the process and outrage as it was, but it really does, I think, validate this strategy by progressive to withhold their votes on the infrastructure bill until health. He figures out what the hell he wants. Otherwise, you could see him just completely walking away from these negotiations. Weeks ago, though, I guess there about to do that, because Jai Apologists said that she sees a vote on both bills this week and then She said she ll trust Biden to get the fifty one votes in the Senate if they pass they'll back better and the infrastructure bill from over to you, Joe meeting at strange about thorough that the joke. Would you mentioned the daring also strange about it. It was very, very abstract, but rather the abstract point right. It's like

one point he made in that kind of man during press comrades is ok. You say it's one point, seven five, but it's actually much more. If you do a bunch of programmes that sunset and then you're actually planning to to put them to make them continue into the future. Ok! Well which programmes you want to keep wishing to want to lose. You want to make it. Do I make some of these bigger and cut some of these things out, because that's where at one point, seven five in the current framework that Joe Biden and you seem to be in favour of Neri three days ago, I think also, though the pessimistic take on this is- and I do think some of this is going on the longer. This takes the more time Joe mentions Republican Senate colleagues lobbyists. Whoever else is annoying in his ear time kills all deal right. They have more time. To put you no offense

spreadsheets in numbers in front of him than about fancy sprays, yes, which welcomed them. Thinking like Joe mentioned, which is very simply which can easily convince them that, oh they, the Democrats are telling you that its one point, seven five trillion, but actually it's a lot more money, and I think he is easily persuaded by a lot of this, which is why what he wants is a congressional budget office score of the bill, which will tell you how much the bill adds to the deficit in the short term and long term, whether in fixed at GDP, whether effects Inflation office casta, so we're gonna get a c b o score anyway, like you said, love it, you have to throw a wreck.

conciliation built to see the effect on the budget, but I think what your mansion men is. You guys are wanted me to just say yes to the framework, I'm not going to say yes until I actually see the score, and I can tell all the fuckin people he needs to tell that this bill actually doesn't add deficit as much as you know, people might be worried about answering one one. Sending optimistic read on all this is that from Joe mansions point of view, Joe Mansion is desperately trying to create compromise in a broken world and bring people together, and then his coverage is just fucking dog shit like he's getting torched left and right in all these pieces. That's annoying really thrilled Kendall. Roy issues. You have you have the authors, a case raises just sick of being told what to do sick of being held that and he just wants to extract one last little pound a flash before it gives them. Well, that's that The hopeful I mean it. I didn't he thought was more telling than mentions press conference which was

ivory delving. It all was the reaction to it from every one else. So, like the White House release the statement being like we're, fine, we think he's going to vote for it. Brian shots tweeted, none of what he said was new everything's via joy Paul declined to take a shot at home and was like. I trust Joe Biden when he says he's. Gonna get your mentioned on board, so whether that's all true or not, at least the rest of the party, still seems quite confident that they'll be able to get mentioned. The vote in the end and clearly the house progressive do because they are willing this week now to vote on the infrastructure bill, vote on build back, better, send it over to the Senate and let the Senate deal with the rest are still heading towards The parking lot where are the? Where are the progressives, pushed the highway money forward and Joe Manchin pushes the climate money flowers and they kind of walk away there in the parking lot. You know like in running. That kind of their behaviour seen no meaning that exchange of any kind of drought

He also. Oh, I get it like bring again like a raving anything Youtube. You bring the climate money, I reckon I gotta get. I was gone for hope now that I, like the reports, We can then mention ass about putting in place work requirements for paid family and medical leave. Even though you have to have a job. They are getting of our Medicare. Is that he's just not a break? I is the outcomes razor beholding, some political context, you for how the electorate feels about all this. Don't eat, appalled, great, but although no one anyway, what are us Van Ghali's overseeing ABC News pull over the weekend, found that even though fifty five percent of the public is following news about the budget negotiations closely, seventy percent said they now quote just some or court little to nothing about what's in the infrastructure bill or- the build back better Bell and a new NBC news. Paul has binds approval at forty five percent among registered voters with fifty two percent disapproving that's down,

from his fifty forty eight approval rating in their pull from two months ago, with much of the drop coming from Democrats Its favourable unfavourable rating was almost the same as trumps in the pool and seventy one percent of all Americans now say the country is headed in the wrong direction. What do you guys think's going on here. not good. I don't know what it thinks drive in this Congress. Tragedies numbers concur: congressional gridlock, there's two thousand ships filled with Christmas, presents the gothic courts. I get left lorgnette every day the panda every every the pandemic doesn't seem to want. It want to end that those are literally that that's the three possibilities I had two allotted economy languishing Endemic Mass in Washington, and I don't know exactly a combination of all three there, but I think it's all three. I think they did Afghanistan withdrawal back in August in their eyes, Delta variant ended what back. In the day, people called the honeymoon period for president for fur

listeners who our pay attention that politics for Trump. That was when people from the other party gave you the benefit of the doubt for a few months. I also just think, though, that, like the democratic coalition is in his cot, like is the Republican Party like we're

are more willing to criticise our own, as that section about Joe Mention probably indicates you all and I my senses like I bet you were just so sick of covert, not not just the mass requirements budgets that continued conversation about it, the disruptions in their lives associated economic impact, the supplies you'd stop. You talked about love at the inflation, that's coming from a new picture, sort of bad mood, music out their forbidden and these losing Democrats and losing independence. Because of it I will say to moments when Trump start losing support not just to democratic. You never had or independence, but Republicans is trying to repeal before will correct, which he failed to do in trying to pass their tax cuts, which they ended up succeeding. But both were cases of huge mess in Washington. Didn't seem, like Republicans, we're gonna be able to get a downer trumpets, Google to get it done until you started seeing erosion in his base in those moments, and I think that's partly.

happening now with Democrats in the other. Two issues are broader throughout the electorate. Beyond Democrats, independence and Republicans are just pissed about the economy and the pandemic. Look if you're paying attention credit to you, commissioner, is borings fuck, but yeah you're prying liking. What you see here, I was a present. Fifty five percent are paying close attention. That's it's it's ITALY has yet they were actually presented. Every fucking liar set more because I like that. That's me tell them everything, those two numbers that fifty five percent or painkillers tension and then seventy percent have no fucking idea with which makes it you could see paying attention, meaning like I saw the headline about negotiations fail, it said was Joe mentioning Pearson Cinema FUCK, something then said no to Joe Biden and everything's a mess. But I don't really know what is about our notes in the bill that make rains. You see journalists who work in Washington whose job is cover tweet things like has anyone seen what's in the bill today like that has been very confusing. The other piece of this too, as its absolute true that there is a kind of now because we're all pundits there's a partisan response to pulling even about like sort of basic economic,

caters, but one thing that, as we have seen over and over again, is that partisan effect is more pronounced for Republicans and conservative. So there is just going to be an economic tax on how people see the economy under Republicans versus Democrats or just more republicans, are more willing to say the economy is going well under democratic, what it wherever the actual underlying conditions. Yet It is- and we talked about this in the past- a member unretarded by this in two thousand nine- that when the president is deeply involved in a political fight in Washington, there is a risk that they go from being the president, like a prime minister who is kind of in the schoolroom and in Washington and upon the fight and like I, I don't think, there's any way to kind of this. This underlying dynamic, happy change with like a bus, tour and lick, giving giving optimistic speeches, but I think once we get to the other side of these negotiations in these bills were passed. He has to be like he s just be out there as, like you know I've been.

most James Carvel thing I'll, say today: Rodya Ready, as you all know, our selves brassy. Now I want Amerika to get the third. The third shot right right, we'll get the third boosters her job on Skype me. The fourth is there we go out there I feel like that is. If David out right has not said that line yet memo. It is it. It shows that you learned under him for solar. nobody will be very proud of you for that that David acts around inspired kind, Joe Biden poster I did so when Joe Biden goes to bed tonight Glasgow and listens to putting America he's gonna, get that advice from love it Tom did. You have any advice for I know or talking. What do you want from me? Any

as for the by demonstration, would you be right out, and I just think that that success beget success and he's gotta get these bills over the finish line, and then things can start to pick up yeah. I think once once the bills pass knocking on would once we get to the end of this year. He's he's just gotta. This sounds like common sense, but focus exclusively every single day. Talking about the economy had improved economy. A lot you mean. Yes, we didn't I talked about this last week to but you see in these poles people say that, like the most important issues, the economy than like inflation number, two or three now and the me you ask Them- will what's Washington

cast on and the economy inflation are up. There are wide democratic votes on the right up there and I think, for a whole bunch of reasons that we ve talked about. There is a disconnect between what binding the Democrats are focusing on in this bill, back better legislation and the economy and the build up of legislation is supposed to be the economic plan. But for some reason the public is not seeing it as the economic planning. There not see it as a focus on the economy and I think a real focus on the economy were every day he's out there connecting republicans to favouring rich people in saying that the job of the Democrats on the side of everyone else and that's why they pass these bills, nuts, where they gonna, keep fighting to lower inflation. All the rest of it like that has to be the message going forth and twenty two Yannick answer they want. Other piece of this, too, is like we never come out of a global pandemic slowly before and we ve never experienced this kind of trauma as a country before and Joe Biden became president in part, because he understood how to speak to people going through that. But I do think that, like whatever the number

whenever the specifics like this, a country has been through a really hard and sad time and like I think you will see that in a lot of unexpected ways, and he just I think that, like that booster ism is rigged, it's me. No, I need it. I totally girth you may. I think all the public health experts have told us we're. Gonna have to learn to live with cove. It is an endemic virus and not a pandemic, and I think that's probably right. I trust them on a binding restriction at some point and for the president himself needs to talk to the country about what it looks like to live with Covid nineteen is an endemic virus, write and say that it may never go away. It's going to be with us for a while, but there is hope ahead. The worst is behind us. Here's how we're going to For its part, the Eu Logo, there's there's some truth, talk that they have some true telling that you have to do tat that doesn't fit, but I think I think right now. It's just do it right now, there's no there's a lot of confusion right like

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This is our trump trying to get credit for, a young can win and, of course he will write off a young. Can loss is guaranteed for me now. I mean this is for data. The nomadic table set up. He if you, if he fell Duncan, was gonna win he'd be going if he felt it was Lucy. Would it be doing this? It will be perfect middle ground, I mean, but young and backed by ninety nine percent of drug voters and Virginia so doing me this year. He wants right, he wants the Trump base but he was not a base to turn out your right and dumb, but he has one any the trump taint right. That's that's it. Anyone got years, they have someone says as apps. Nobody wants a trump exactly right. That's what people listening That's a announces that UK or area speed in a really stupid. Last minute campaign stunts yet a Lincoln price, direct organised, a group of people on Friday to disrupt a young, can event by dressing like white supremacist from the Charlottesville Rally in telling us when they were young, can supporters what the fuck were. They think it huh

you get an email abound hearing at a campaign of it, and then they tell you got a dress up like a white supremacist, you don't do it I'll, just say no I'll go somewhere else on Saturday I just. I hope this was a dumb twitter story and it didn't really like resonate all around the state, but superpower people you again. Europe, your plan with light ammo here you know if you're gonna do dumb stunt if you're gonna run cable ads They are targeted, immoral, Largo, designed to bait trump into doing something he's gonna respond. We know that about him, so you better hope it's a good idea. This is not a good idea. These are tried and true republican campaign tactics. That's it you get a bunch of ex Republicans headed they do republican campaign crap ran, ran in until recently. You know. A lot of Democrats were like Democrats need to play tougher need a punch, heartless, reluctant MSNBC Gazette Gaston

and something like this house is what you get is king. You happy about the natural gonna work. Really I don't like you said I am, I think it's probably a fuckin twitter store it doesn't really matter. I hope like ice is just this is not really would mean. Terrific off is trying to tie young into Trump. That's been hit, posing message. The race generally has been more about like Loudon, county school boards and in education I mean, like that's, what's been really talked about and in what you ve seen popping in the polls lately, so this was just an odd its move. It didn't work, You know what I would have looked like you did. What action to take away so many kit somebody's too many steps. It's a trunk! It's a trumpet but he's getting together for a brainstorm. Again too far from the original idea. The trunk is a classic drunk, you guess feeling, but the closing days this race. Any final thoughts before the results are coming in on consent to turn out I will say that only if the matters I was real,

Glad, and I would appreciate, are you and dad disgusted as well, which is that I feel like there's like this. You know when it comes to issues around the critical race theory. Look. I think that there is a very unhelpful twitter conversation about it and then there's been a lot of. I think uncertainty and anxiety on the part of campaigns about how to deal with is how to change the subject, and I agree that I really liked the chemical of campaign. Add that decide to go on and redefine it and make it about banning history, something we ve all been talking about, and I and I dont know if it's gonna work, but I appreciated that this was like. Finally, a full throated mess that is like this is about banning history that didn't didn't, take it on their terms in their words and tried to make it you kind of argument, I dont know what's gonna happen and that anybody does, but that part of it ass. I was glad to see finally, a Democrat figure out some language to tackle this ridiculous issue. Raises issues egg. It's really hard to separate the signal from the noise on this one and this whole race, because there's just yet

So if you just pay attention to twitter in the media narratives, it is all critical race theory is if I got- and I just can't get out of my mind- the MS thirteen scares from twenty seventeen. You know what we talked about the final morning, Joe panel and that raise right like I don't ask I don't know a twitter to day. I mean Twitter today, Virginia's pre lost, I mean that's, it's unbelievable yeah and who knows like you, so we don't know will happen building houses, no matter what happens. I really hope that everyone has some humility about why it happened, win or lose win or lose re like go live without you pick the only aggravate I've. No, at an. What and exit polls do not help with that at least the original vote. The first exit polls right, like sometimes they get fee,

later when they are their waited correctly. But you know: beware of instantaneous, takes wait for all the death had come out, wait for like good interviews in focus groups and other very even has been really extensive, good reporting on like what voters in Virginia thinking now the post ETA goods for peace. Today, I'm appetites against anecdotal, like they talked a twenty people had a supermarket somewhere. I, like it it's good reporting is helpful, but who knows not scientific? I mean this could be a California recall example where there was one poll that freedom buddy outright and in that, in the call for an example of a survey USA. I think you're in Virginia. It was this Fox news Paul, which is either prescient, aren't outlier. We will find out, we do No that education has increased and salience in pulling since September. In fifteen percent people said it was most born issue. Them is September. Twenty four percent said that in October, so that might tell us

thing, but looking back over the last couple, recent elections in twenty fourteen Mark Warner and add Gillespie were scary, close at the end of less than one percent margin. But no polls show that close and then twenty seventeen Ralph North and beat at glassy by nine points, but poles had made it seem very close no Virginia has been the sight of a lot of big time pulling. Mrs and we don't know what the electorate will look like this time and they changed the earlier vote, access rights, it's hard to compare early boats where it and even to the education numbers you just mentioned. That could be the result of two things. One education is suddenly a really big issue with a lot of voters in Virginia because then younger. To make it so and talked about a critical theory or Glenn Young and made it a big issue with his republican supporters. And because now all of them are saying right. It's a big issue. That's what that Pollux like. So we don't again. We have we're not gonna know until we actually see the result and of Europe

this on Tuesday, when I, you know the the organizer you talk to last week, one and some people around one time when, when the reason people undecided is alot of people were not planning to vote, didn't know they had to vote like there are still will they need to be reached of you are hearing this. On Tuesday I mean we may we are losing on Tuesday, based on how successful we are making phone calls and getting people to make sure their votes are in by Tuesday in Absolute and love it. I think you might have a little game for oh, yes, but before we go as as as you, both messages hard to get a feel for what is happening on the ground. But that's why that's where we turn to us and to return to a reporters journalists for major news outlets have a problem. You see Tommy and John. They strive for the improvement of non partisanship, yet foolishly choose to live and progressive enclaves like New York, Washington at my house, and so I thought

like intrepid meteorologists. They leave the calm, harbours of blue american head into the turgid roiling waters of Red America, to show us how the these are blowing, but then at times in effort to prove too sweet greens, Americans? How different life really is out the people? Some key details left out details that my paid a different unless representative picture first question Glenn Miller describe the Hilary Biden Voter and dad who spoke with new ties reporter Jeremy Peters about why he can stomach voting further public in Virginia governors. Re saying my problem with Trump was: I thought he was, Harrison. I just don't think young is going to embarrass me or the state which are the following facts about when do, you think is real in addition to what was included in the peace is at a He donated to Mitt Romney David Produce, Susan Collins, Kelly, LA and win red, be Glenn Miller an article on the right wing say: Quill, let about critical race theory see he has a tag on the Fairfax republican websites for his blog posts or deal

but all of the above all of the above is the deeper many other visible. We shall buzzer's for this next question. Another time describe Josephine Valdez as a public school Para professional from the Bronx, who is part of a sizeable? unwavering contingent across United States whose resistance to the vaccines have won out over paychecks or have given up careers entirely up a public school power professional. The paper had issue and editors now Tommy. Why? But I don't know they what wet harmonizing multiplayer out it always is loud and had got a push listening eyes. She works for the state Rubagub Party now She's, actually anti vaccine mandate activists John over what happened at an Anti backs revelation helped organise why this is so, I now have taken us what happened? I decided to give it the gloves might have in a mistake: it's a gamble.

It's a gamble. What what happened? Take a guess figures. What happened at a rally? She helped organise, allegedly get that in their no people did people Yeldo bidding to take the vaccine, this person that they they destroyed a mobile cook over testing site, toward the terrors yeah they just her. I think it was a van. I think they lead to stray like to report that tend in front of his van. They really made a mess of things or anyway, as has the person Tommy over to your final question. Thank you in an earlier is about reluctant trump. Voters is, from the mid terms, Jeremy Peters front of showcasing profile. The group of your average Republicans who, while not huge fans trump, felt compelled to defend him against the quote: overblown criticisms against him. One of those Republicans was Businesswoman Gina Anders an executive, a not a stitch up, make Amerika great again gear in her wardrobe she said: All nuance in all complexity- and these are complex issues- are completely lost. Maybe she's not emerge person Tommy, but you did Workforce

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the Supreme Court heard oral arguments today on texts as radical abortion law that would place a ten thousand dollar bounty on anyone who aids or bets an abortion after six weeks of pregnancy, which is before many one even know their pregnant accorded previously split five to four on an emergency order in favour of allowing the law to go into effect on September. First joining us now to break down happen in today's arguments and much more. The coast of the strict scrutiny I cast and why you, Professor Melissa, Murray, Melissa, welcome back and for having me, can you start by giving us a quick background on today's case, like how is different from the last challenge they heard in the Texas La while one there actually having Earl argument so that helps this is not a case. That's being decided on the shadow Jacquette with very limited briefing and no oral arguments, as was the case that was migrated from the shadow jacket to the court's regular merit, stockade and slaughtered for oral argument. There. Almost two hours of oral are

to arm in these two arguments today. So, to the extent that Justice SAM Each euro had bemoaned the prospect that the court just didn't have enough time to really flesh out some of these issues. There is no way that that going to be an issue today. They had plenty of time to get into the nitty gritty on these questions, and I think we will probably get something that is perhaps a little lengthy air than the paragraph that we got back in September from the court, so more time to work on their some, perhaps more time to consider the fact that the public has been really outraged about the fact that Texans have not had access to the same constitutional rights as their counterparts elsewhere in the country, and I think we saw a court that perhaps is feeling the heat a little bit so what is your take on the justices reaction to today's oral arguments? Very definitely, a cap that views this law as flagrantly unconstitutional, no surprises who will be in that camp. It was

the first item, I your Kagan, possibly Briar, I'm on a substantive measures, not necessarily on the procedural question. and then there are those who really don't seem to care if the law is constitutional or not because they're happy without going into a fact, and they think that the laws novel proceed We're all irregularities is enough to sort of evade judicial review on this question and the three in that case, or Justices, Samuel, Alito, Clarence, Thomas and Neil Gorse edge. Then there were. The justice is in the middle, and I say in the middle just because we typically group them this way, but I'd say even the chief justice seem to be firmly in the camp. That story. I says the institutional legitimacy of the court. All of that seem to argue in favour of joining this law and having some kind of considered discussion of its substantive merits, but that left Justices Amy Coney bear it and bright Cavenaugh as the chief justice, as you very much seem to be in place today, were you surprised at all by

how skeptical Roberts Cavanaugh and bear it seem to be given that just a few weeks ago, their same concerns over the fact that the law is so novel and unique in its approach did not require them to prevented from going into effect of the chief justice had been with the browser in he was of the view that they should simply step in and near put this law on ice while they determine whether or not it was constitutional. So he was with the liberals on this back on September first, but as you no justices bear it and Cavenaugh were very much part of that five justice block that allowed the Texas law to go into effect and it seemed Maybe they had had a change of heart and certainly there question seem to suggest that they had a change of heart, or at least there were open to the possibility that were some softening there. They asked a lot of fun.

friends about whether or not the abortion provider suits against these state court. Judges and county clerks could take on the question of state actions over the invoked. A couple of precedents like Shelly versus Kramer. This is a key I firmly believe that nineteen forties, where there was a restrictive covenant, one of these private agree that's where homeowner say: I'm not going to sell to black people. You can't sell to black people and it avoided anti discrimination laws, because it's a private agree between the homeowner and the perspective. Buyer and the court stepped in and said while it may be a private agreement, but you need our courts to actually enforce it and when the court step in to enforce it, that's a form of state action and the state can't be a part of your discrimination, and so Justice Cavanaugh seem to be invoked that same line of thinking like the fact that the courts have to process these lawsuits. The county clerks have to issue the various documents and what not to get this moving through the system is

that a form of state action and doesn't that enmesh the state in the enforcement of this law, even if the state is formally prohibited from actually enforcing it. One other point I believe Cavanaugh made and several other just as made as well was that this might give other states ideas, including liberal states. But how they could say, go after gun rights or make policy on other issues that the right wing of the court might might not find as appealing what was your actions. that line of argument. So we ve heard about this ever since this law came into effect like what, if the blue states decided to take a page out of Texas, his book and start doing the same thing with gun rights or whatever and that's always been, I think a looming threat by The real crux of that question before the court today was not aimed at what New York is going to do or California is going to do, but

what this actually means for the court, because at bottom that line of questioning really points to an existential crisis at the court itself. What is the point of a supreme court? What is point of an entity that is supposed to say what the law is. If a rogue state can just decide to delegate the info, smell of a law to a private individual in order to avoid what the crook, the Supreme Court has sat on a particular issue, and so I think that whole line of question was not so much aimed at thinking about what states might do in the future. But what is our point here? What are we doing here and what does it mean for taxes to basically gives us the finger over and over again? So what are your thoughts on that I mean here of what happens next and what are the potential rulings and affects the could come from this case. So again

These were procedural issues that were being debated today again by saying that they are procedural. I don't mean to suggest that there are not important their hugely important and indeed, I think, go to this broader existential threat to the legitimacy of the court itself, but we were not getting any kind of question about whether there is a right to an abortion that is implicit in the constitution that the court is obliged to protect. That's a substantive question that really, comes after. We decide this threshold question of whether these two lawsuits can even be in federal court. In the first instance- and I think we saw perhaps between the Justice Anything Justice Kagan was the one who is really pushing. This was perhaps a kind of steel. A compromise being offered, whereas they might allow the lawsuit brought on behalf of the abortion providers against the state court judges in the county clerks to proceed, while perhaps consigning United States versus taxes, the d o j suit to the rubbish bin.

there are a lot of questions about whether the United States could bring a suit like there's a lot of questions about a precedent called dabs and and what, how far Debs when and what the logical stopping point would be for the United States government to intrude upon a state sovereignty by suing it. And so it may be the case that there is some horse trading to be done here and the justices may decide to pick one case, but not the other. But it seems like the Have to do something and they're going to do something, and I think they recognise that a state of affairs where, once eight in the union lacks the same constitutional rights as the other. Forty nine states is not something that can happen on their wives are definitely going to see something happen, and all of this is shaking out amidst the looming prospect of a month from now they're going to hear oral arguments in the Mississippi case, Dobbs versus Jackson, women's health organisation and that question does put row directly in the crosshairs. So it could be the case

that when jobs is decided on it, either completely Rio organizes the court's abortion jurisprudence to make viability no longer and important marker in the court's restrictions on abortion or state restrictions on abortion, or it could overruled RO and Casey entirely. Either way. That means that SB eight lives to fight another day because now were actually trying to figure out if a six week ban on abortion is ok or alternatively, SB is definitely ok, because row, verses, weighed and planned Parenthood versus Casey don't exist anymore, is it possible- that if they allow the lawsuit to go forward and federal court that this ends up back at the Supreme Court again very in the same so they might end up, so they eventually are going to decide the substance one way, the other, where it's the Mississippi case or this case. Why needs- and this is the

if they decide that Mississippi case on the merits first, and they take the sort of minimalist approach where they're just sort of tinkering with what viability means well than that some confusion in the lower federal courts, because now we're trying to figure out well if Mississippi's, fifteen weak ban is fine, but about it for a week our ten million or what about a six week ban and suddenly, we have to take us, be eight back up to the court, but if they decide in Dobbs that there is no right to an abortion, Nestle in the constitution or any of the constitutional rights that we currently recognise. While that's just open season for the states and SBA is fine, quite a compromise that says level, these kinds of schemes are not acceptable to us, but don't worry you don't need them because he over here in a broader way, were ass, limiting the constitutional right empowering states into all kinds of other restrictions anyway. Why? If I think this is the peace that doesn't guy, nearly enough play. Am we talk

Sba is that were sort of like sprung, fully formed from the mine of Jonathan Natural and the Texas Legislature, but obviously it's part of a concerted effort amongst the pro life move, the anti choice movement to sort of seed, a series of challenges, all of which are sort of met to build on an interact with each other, and that's really what you're, seeing here like dogs and SB eight? They have nothing to do with each other as a formal matter, but of course, have everything to do with each other and the way that they are sequence at the court in a way it's gonna play out of the court will obviously have huge implications for each other, so another another issue that come up the Supreme Court agree to take on several cases challenge. Administrations authority to regular greenhouse gases through the EPA. On the one hand, they ve been reactions. This was in the times that described it as the equivalent of an earthquake around the country for those who care but the climate that was a professor at Varmint Alot harboured, but any illustration posture has been more subdued, saying you don't even details,

this one we're not even using it any more like it doesn't matter we're not even worse. The editing it basically and then White House that the climate policy experts, the White House, said that they expect the Supreme Court upholds the the administration authority. To regulate climate. What is your reaction to what has been unfolding when they granted certain less cases on Friday? I think I posted something on Twitter. That was like you know. Next: stop nineteen thirty Four, because it seems like we are going all the way back to the non delegation doctrine and the fights after your and the new dealers had with the cord over whether or not they would uphold the administrative agencies on the authority? The delegated authority of the administrative agencies in the deal in it. We know that there are certainly three justices on the court who are hostile to the prospect

of an invigorated administrative staid, and we know that the administrative state has sort of handsome narrow, MRS with the court just a couple of years ago, in a challenge to a sex offender registration, I'm just as Alina Kagan, who is in the majority. Basically, one congress like, if you want to have your delegations of congressional authority to administrative agencies upheld, have to be really clear about what the agency is supposed to do ass to be some kind of intelligible principle, because these guys over here there are totally hostile to the prospect that Congress can delegate any of its authority to invent a strait of agency and This sounds like such a dry issue, and it really is a dry issue. Trust me, my students say this all the time, but can you imagine, in a world without administrative agencies. I can imagine having to go to Congress to get a passport having to go to Congress and ask them to do something about climate.

Look. We want experts, you have real knowledge of these fields and expertise in doing this. To actually do this and that's why we allow Congress to delegate its authority to these administrative agencies within the executive branch to do this kind of work. But then there are these folks on the court who are sceptical about sceptical that Congress can do that, sceptical that These that are technically part of the executive branch should be allowed to exercise what is essentially some kind. Of legislative authority, and so we ve gotten pretty far with this end in a way

There are a number of conservatives. I think, who have not been hostile to the administrative state. Justice Scully are famously wrote, a decision that upheld congresses, power to delegate to the administrative agencies by these new. Our justice as very much have been skeptical, if not deeply deeply hostile to the prospect of this, and I think this is a real change in how we do government and its going to have to be a big sea change, not just for climate change, but basically everything that government does seem to be in the earthquake camp I like I mean earthquake conflagration emulate imagine having to go to Congress to do just some of the stupid things that we go to administrative agencies. To do this, we will can barely remember post office forget about just having experts in the administrative state. You also people in the Ministry of State who can like do their jobs every day. That's that's that

I mean like there are some things that Congress as a large, cumbersome, multi member, unwieldy body, is just not well equipped to do, and a smaller body with real expertise is probably better suited, and that's you. It seems to be likes. thing that many members of the conservative legal movement are really hostile to impart, because I think it facilitates the prospect of government regulation and who wants that were right. Seems like some of it. Obviously there's that outcome that they don't want, which is an act of his government, saving the planet, I suppose which makes them coming its regulating business or regulating reasons, but but some of these really, as it seems like it's, not philosophical, it comes down to almost like semantics or like what is the difference between Congress passing a law that gives the administration power to enforce it and the administration

self writing a refined version that law we had this argument. We talked about this last time, you're on the Shoah. We're talking about Dhaka right, whether or not Dhaka constitutes some kind of legislative act like half. How is that? How do you think about that? In all of this sort of comes back to this? original s view of the constitution and the idea that you have the constitution does not explicitly say Congress can do it then than Congress can't do it and the point that you're The logic that you make your course there has to be some kind of willow room here for allowing the executive to enforce the law like. Maybe we should allow Congress the sort of give up some that power, so the law can actually be enforced in a particular way, and I think there is play in the joints here. The LE constitutions tax, I think, doesn't stay everything in part, because it couldn't write that I mean they understood that they weren't doing any. They weren't doing everything they couldn't be exhaustive and and certainly not be exhaustive, and have people be able to reach and understand what they were doing so you, I think there are going to be vagaries here. The whole idea

rights that are not explicit and note that whenever there talking about these things that are not the constitution, no one ever said anything about executive privilege. They love, executive, frivolous executive privileges, nowhere written in the constitution, but leave out for another day. I again all of this comes back to this idea that we have to be bound by the taxpayer in such a slavish way. That comments It's kind of goes out the window and were making all of these decisions is that we know what the framers would you when in fact they to recognise the that of their own knowledge and how to deal with issues that they couldn't even contemplate in that moment, most Thank you, as always, for making a smarter on all these issues. We appreciate it and come back again soon thanks for having me phase them all as a married for joining us today and enjoy the

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