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are so much bravely really are they really are yeah? I take a lesson under asia. We got some good news and bad news about your buttons agenda. We got house, publicans in disarray and later the hosts of crickets newest pod hot, take join us for a special climate edition of take appreciate her but first, if you're not listening yet to out what a day you're missing out crickets daily news, progress will have break down the most important story. You may have missed, and only twenty minutes. Listen and new episodes of what every monday through friday, wherever you get your pa and next week, pod america alive and on tour will be in chicago in saint louis tickets, around sale now I'm your city and date at crooked dot, com, slash events. So let's have some good news and bad news about eurobonds agenda. The good news is that too democratic, a members told the washington post that, during a meeting with the congressional has been a carcass this week, the president quote gave him.

stronger indication, yet that he is prepared not only to extend the current moratorium on student debt, but poised take significant action to relieve student loans altogether, a move that could include cancelling tens of thousands of dollars and debt for some people and one than he to take sooner rather than later Biden himself confirmed on thursday that a final decision will come in a few weeks So that's great now for the bad news. Also from the washington post, Jeff stein, Joe mansion we haven't said a mentioned so long on the spot, and now now we're back Joe mansion has started meeting with republican senators about a bipartisan energy bill, causing quote real fear in the white house that they'll failed to reach a deal with the west virginia senator on a Democrat, only reconciliation bill. They would invest in clean energy, lower the costs to prescription drugs, raise taxes on the rich and cut the devil for policies. That mention keep saying he supports. Let's start with the good

so aaron. What are your thoughts of a student debt news, and what do you make of the timing on this at will and for it I'm going to say I am. I am one of those people who had to take out a lot of loans to go to college and paid them all off. I think I'd pay them off like in twenty eight team twenty nineteen and it was like a huge burden up until the point that I paid them off and as someone who it my loans off, I dont want other people to have to go through that for, like the entire young adulthood that they live to, like that sort of burden on their backs. So I'm I'm. I love this news and I also want to sort of re frame the conversation on student loans. I think that national media is is with this thing, where they're making It seem like an order giving oxygen to the argument. The republican argument, that this is a bail out for like pencil, necks, who

you know, keep going to more and more grad school because they, you know whatever they in like the elite, but if you can, well look at who takes out student loans. Who are they? There are people who can't pay for college out of pocket. So there are people who aren't coming from money. There are people who are maybe, who may be their families didn't plan for them to go to college? There are people who are maybe first generation college graduates, and so there are people who come from one place and are going to another place, their upwardly mobile people, though the future middle class, and I think that it's real, important for when we talk about this, to keep in mind the people who take out student loans and the people who burdened by stew, loans are the future middle class or people that are trying to better their lives, also disproportionately people of color, and so I think that this is only a good move for Democrats and it's only a good move for americans, and I just really want to make sure that when we talk about strewn loans who we

have in mind for who's. Taking them out is the right picture, a picture that matches reality, and I do think that it seems like from what Biden has said what the white house has hinted at that he might take action to make sure that people who need to help the most get it and let me know who are like very wealthy and can afford to pay off their student loans- do not get this sort of debt relief. Of course, republican senators reacted to the story by saying very introducing a bill that women and Biden from cancelling student debt in mitt romney called it a desperate bribe on Wednesday is environment. Democrats should lean into this fight I also think that it's funny that mitt romney this is He should be above this like doing something that tangibly benefits your constituents is not a bribe. It's called being an elected official representing the public interest dislike bizarre. What's a tax cut, then what is? What is?

in a contract awarded to your district like it's not a bribe. It's not here. It's so funny because look at mitt romney over the last couple of years has made some, I would say, principled and and even courageous decisions around trumpism that I I applaud. They were just the right thing to do. I realize the bar is low, but it was still the right thing to do a lot of other the concern doing it, but mere romney complaining about student debt reminds me of why we were able to beat him in twenty twelve and I will end it sort of may miss that republican party that just so open about they're, for helping me. Plain about wealth tax, and that we too is like, as our Paul ryan, the other day to say tat, he was he was disappointed with donald trump or not more about cutting entitlements, because donald trump too afraid to do that. Unlike bring back that reply, working party in full kick the fat like sharing like mitt romney.

Having his servants get the sunday newspaper and sitting there reading it in a top hat as someone polishes shoes and he's like too many coupons theirs, how many coupons and his newspaper it's like go on. Man like this is this is not the way that he's framing his concern with it is so so cheap and and here's the thing the only legitimate pushed back on this thing, even semi legitimate. I'm not even saying I agree with this- is the idea that in full ishan is something that might be exacerbated by people continuing to have the amount of money that they have to spend, which I don't agree with, but that's like nero somewhat legit of an argument at the little bit wonky, it's a little bit in the weeds, but it's you know. That would be a legitimate thing to bring up in the discussion and this it it's a bribe. Other people like what

Does Mitt Romney even know how to fill out a faster form, I would challenge him, mickey, I don't think he knows what faster is yeah. It's like you know we're really. This is a bribe. This is like us, a special dispensation, for you know, hardworking students or people who worked hard to pay out. This did that student loans, but like, let's think about oil companies, getting tax breaks, health insurance companies getting tax breaks down from past a giant tax cuts that for some of them. if these people in this country, like they didn't, have any problem, giving like very big corporations in the wealthy individuals. Huge tax breaks the continued to this day and they didn't have a problem when Donald trump. is threatening to slow down people, getting stimulus checks in the mail because he wanted his signature on the stimulus checks like it's it's. lasting. I I'm sorry. I interrupted you

no. I was just going to say it. It's also. You know just to talk about the politics of it and like harvard the harvard did a poll. This week it's the harvard youth poll, it's probably one of the best polls of of young voters in the country and they they surveyed a total of two thousand eighteen to twenty nine year olds of that poll. Eighty five percent said they favor some form of government action and student loan. Only thirty, eight per cent favourite total debt cancellation, which I I think this is probably whereby men's up landing and they end up doing focus groups in addition to the pole, and they said that some focus group participants were asking whether a person making hefty wages on wall street should have their debts washed clean or whether we should only be given to those in dire need, so you can. You can see how, by more probably land on something that means tests this in some way, just so that it appears as fair as possible to most be

in the country, but there is a desire among most young people, and probably just most people in the country to have some kind of student debt relief. So it is, it is a popular policy that he should absolutely lean into yeah. I agree. I also think that, on the on the timing of this too? Like people are like? Why did he wait so long to do it? Why do you think there is a risk in doing this by executive order that the court overturns this, and I think that he would have rather had legislation passed to cancel up to ten thousand dollars in student but you know we're about to talk about this. It doesn't seem like the democratic congress that includes dimension incursion. Cinema ever would have gotten that done and so he sort of had to wait. I'm sure he wanted to do it via legislation first and when you couldn't do it now, now he's just going to do it via executive action and there's something here that also kind of sticks out to me. So when republicans want to get something deeply unpopular enact

it or overturned- usually they just kind of lean on their shady ass judges and don't try to do it legislatively, because what they do was just come up. Legislation and wait for court challenges to undo popular law is essential. It like that, it's right away that that's the way that they do things so the fact that they are proposing counter legislation. That's like we need to stop this format, turning to me betrays a confidence that they have that there branding of fritz soon loan forgiveness will resonate with their voters like they. They believe that they have successfully made it seem as though student loan forgiveness is an issue that impacts, like you know, pajama boy style path, as a throwback like why well, you know like trigger warning on syllabus chick. You put terry known step they. They believe that their

strongly online angry twitter, facebook base will come out to vote for them or be angered by this. So That's that's one thing that I that I also am kind of kind of stick out to me when we talk about like the timing and the weather we're talking about it and I think they are just you know I think they're sort of misreading the electorate on this one again. I I I if they want to introduce legislation to keep people in debt great go for it. Run on. Then you have like the narrative rick's got out their thing. I want to raise taxes on a hundred million americans. I want to take away people's health care. I want to cut social security. I wanna get rid of sources. indian medicare after five years and now we're going to throw onto the pile owned by the way, I want to prevent debt relief for millions of people in this country like great run on that that that'd be that'd, perfect? So it's like about the the less good news here that the mansion stuff, so there

Political story from yesterday, where former harry red adviser, Jim manly, said that if the white house is still hopeful about a deal with Joe mentioning pearson, cinema quote some one is in too many edibles. If, like its piazza exalting, so he doesn't know what edibles do they don't make me hopeful. That was a mine. I was my reaction like as he is he taken edibles yeah like this may make you if, if legislation was being introduced and like cartoon form, like written wording names. I would be like losing do many animals, but regardless that's that's nit picking from, if you're, though, if you're the white house, what at this point do you do about Joe mansion wasting even more time. Here we are in April of of twenty twenty two several months before them terms, and what do you do by dimension wasting more time talking to republicans about a bipartisan energy deal that, let's be honest, does not seem like it will ever come to anything that would actually put a dent in climate,

I mean here's the thing about Joe mansion, though like his popularity, since he has taken This role here skyrocketed among the people who have the power to elect him or not elect him in west virginia, I think trump one by double digits and he's a Democrat from a deep red state and in the past year, according to a morning, consult pull. His approval rating has risen in his state from forty percent to fifty when president in his mind, he's doing all the right things. So what democrats need to somehow do his too? make him understand that he is doing the wrong things and by that they some honey message to west virginians and and I dont know what that looks like I'm not from west virginia, and I do know that you know, sending sending people into west virginia has had some mixed results, because Joe dimension is basically

the king of west virginia at this point driving around in his mozart three legged goon buys a mass iran. Car people know that minorities are bad. Cars were like doubling those like the ultimate Do she I know like if you see see maserati, even in los angeles, you like that dues- and this is a city full of teslas- like it's a notice is that this is a city full of duties which are more to loses out dances. I mean it's like an idiot. It it it it elevates. You among the baseline of duty is a valid. I can't even imagine the differential and in west virginia, but regardless super popular unrest virginia. So how did democrats get the message across that binds agenda benefits? West virginians without seeming though there confronting Joe mansion or undermining Joe mansion. Like have to somehow message around him in a way, it's ok

it's really hard. I mean, I think the question like through the last couple of years has been what does Joe mentioned really want, which is a ridiculously hard question to answer, because he doesn't seem like he knows what the fuck he wants half the time and he'll like say something to reporters one day, something opposite the other day. I have heard that he will tell democratic senators like hey. I really that plan in then they'll call the white house and say oh mention once that, once my plan included in the in the reconciling, bill and in the wider culture mansion these like. No, I never said that so he's like play. all sides all the time and then on recently, he recently apparently told donors at a dinner that he is that he's running again and twenty twenty four and thinking about the pull numbers that you just cited.

I had always wondered I'm like. Does he really think he's going to win in two thousand twenty, four and west virginia in a state that trump won by that many points, when it's only going to get more conservative because we only get more polarized as the years go on and the fact that not only is he fifty seven does he have a fifty seven percent approval? Overall that porsche that easy. Sixty nine percent approval nice among us, a nice among out west virginia republicans, and that's That's it that's the path to reelection. Is this: if you have that many women looking and was virginia liking. You you are, he actually might be able to get it done in a year where no other Democrat would win unless virginia the only thing from totally left field that I could see, making mansion kind of check, off is like a primary challenge from the left, and I know that there are people in west Virginia who are kind of see style, democrats, not many of them, but the ones that are there are like made of pretty strong stuff red state progressives are really really tough.

and read state progressives coming out to get aid primary challenger who's like far to the left of him to beat him would be something that could you know rattle him, not that I necessarily want that to happen. I don't want to lose the seat, but that's the only thing that my you know poisoned rain can come up with as as putting any fear into him, but then also you know he can just crimes off to sleep on it. bad of millions of dollars. Then he made off prop profiting off of pollution. and and and coal interests. Look I think there is. You know you mentioned the financial interest there. I also think this guy is just very high on his own supply, like he is theirs. When I was in dc the other week, I heard rumors from a couple of different people that he's been telling people he might want to run for president

twenty four, as the moderate alternative to Joe Biden, which is fucking wild, but also, I think that, like this guy has spent time, not too much time in west virginia, but like too much time and a lot of luck, green rooms and like cable furs and like like an editorial boards, and he really thinks that way He's this moderate champion, that's gonna, fuckin save the country like, I think, he's he's doin himself and if it, if that's, how he's thinking, I dont see how he jumps in on a Democrat, only reconciliation bell at this point, because why would he help the Democrats when he wants to either be the great bridge builder? You know between parties. Or be able to say you know. The Democrats went too far left and I was able to kill it like. It seems like those are more politically, or at least he thinks those are more politically beneficial stances to take, which is just fucking urinating I mean that's why, as any person like

as in the ranks through washington hollywood, any lake bull shit, heavy space, it's really important for them to have one person around who they cannot fire we'll tell them no yes or leg men, because I think mansion has risen passed. The point where it here fired all of the people. Who will tell him? No, it's like Conny syndrome in a way, You know you, you need somebody who's gonna be like this. You are not your view of what you think We'll see you as does not match with how you are saying virginia is not a large state. Immensely popular in a small state it is not necessarily in line with america as a whole and yeah. That's that's yanks! That's it likes omitted! It's tough! For Democrats, when you're fiftieth senate boat comes from a guy who

is not only representing an extremely conservative state, but maybe the only state in the country that is wholly dependent on one of the most damaging fossil fuels Could imagine epithets, like is already rough situation, but I think we ve offenders and I mean anything of a question like you know, Biden obviously promised a fairly sweeping agenda on the campaign trail, most of which have been held hostage by mansion and curse and cinema. Looking back, do you think, there's anything he could have done differently and then I guess, looking forward how to Democrats sort of energy as a base that may be disappointed by what hasn't got done. Yet I mean I don't want it. Can I don't know on morning quarterback. This are you know next, two years later April, quarterback this, but I think that it was maybe a catch twenty. Who for binding, because by then had to either run as a united

if you run as a uniter, then party doesn't matter and you get to vote. You know vote for your conscience vote for you, you think, is the better person. Even if you're a Republican come out, you can come out and do what Joe Biden he's a united or you run as like a party person. That's like we need to be in power as democrats so that we can get the democratic agenda past and I think Joe Biden really tried to walk the line between both were he's had he had this bold progressive agenda as a candidate, but he also tried to decouple the agenda slightly from the like national democratic ticket. If that makes any sense, which I think was something that at the time

it looked as though he had to do, and I dont I dont know if things would have been different if it would have been like you, gotta get out there and vote for democrats because who could have predicted that we have ended up with a fifty fifty senate split, but the twenty twenty election was not good at what we Democrats under performed in the house and the senate and twenty twenty, and I think part of that is because the risk, you know parties is a matter, we can unite, you know, and that's that's just patently not true. I may look. Could Joe Biden have set expectations lower? at the beginning of his administration, knowing who mansion is and knowing who sent him is yeah he could have, but then he would have rightly been accused of not fighting hard enough for democratic priorities by But like us, I'm sure we would have done that. You know, and so he sort of set expert. You know he did. He basically said this: it'll be my big agenda and I'm to try to fight for it, I'm to try to bring mentioned in cinema along. I dont think that, like

You know I was for other candidates in the primary, but I dont think that, like Elizabeth Warren or Bernie sanders or people who did or any one else running would have had an easier time per. During your mentioning kitchen cinema, just behind like they, they they get a vote. They represent states where they clearly have made the calculation that Thumbing. There knows the national democratic party and the president, the united states, is not going to hurt them politically at home. Now that mentioned, I think, is correct and that assessment dzierzon cinema- I don't necessarily think, is correct, but whatever that's what she thinks he's just chaotic. She is a chaotic entity and it's impossible to figure out total what she's, what she's doing at any point, but I think the Maybe the calculation here was that Biden could put these extremely popular policy proposals out there, if americans would respond well to them like look how popular this is, and then cinema and mansion would be moved by their better angels and I'm using air quotes because you know Biden loves that that phrase to do the right thing:

and that's not necessarily what they are going to do or ever have done, and I wanted I'd want to just say one more thing, and you know the lucy with the football comparison that is constantly coming up. It was coming up when, during the trump years now it's coming up in reference to to Joe Maddon we need a new reference- I know it's getting very old. I love, sergeant, but stop using that reference gregg lucy, with the full, how about how about gene parmesan from arrested development, because it's like you get into a situation and so all of a sudden he takes the mask of it's gene. You know, We get into a situation where we're negotiating Joe Manchin is along for the ride he takes off. The mask adds Joe mansion. I accept you know we're not delighted by it and that's my final thought on the matter. As you can see extremely highfalutin. Look, I think, that's a great idea. I think when we're looking ahead to the mid terms. You know the best messages you kind start from like what the truth

is in the truth of the matter is. If we elect to more Senate democrats, then we don't have to worry about your mentioning cares and cinema, and I think I was Joe Biden. I would have a message that both talks about what he's done, talks about what he hasn't been able to get done, primarily because republicans won't work with him on anything also because he has to democratic senators, who have been extremely difficult and if you send him to more democratic senators and you return a democratic has majority, he will be able to get all the rest of his agenda past and by the way, if republicans take over nothing, more will get done and in fact a lot of harm could possibly come too people, because we might not be able to confirm judges and we will be able to from other cast us up. That may look. It is a more common. It message than anyone would certainly like, but that sort of the reality that we're in right now an end. You know going back to some of the popular provisions that Biden propose that mentioned in cinema have successfully cycle,

and the care agenda is such a popular agenda and With such a missed opportunity by democrats- and I think that seriously, if democrats just ran on what parental leave, it's family leave and a bolstered care economy like somebody has to take care of all these kids. Somebody has to take care of all these, these elderly people. somebody has to take care of all these people who are suffering from long term disability as result of long covert, like the thing between where we are and where we need to be, is literally two senators and I mean not where we need to be but getting on the path to where we need to be because we're so egregiously behind. I think that that's it you're right. It's not necessarily in straight As an arrow message. You can't really put down a bumper sticker. He could it would be a long bumper sticker, but that's kind of what we're working with right now you're. I would also that there

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President and wanted him to resign, but it turns out. If there were more audio recordings, let's take a listen. He had a thing that we have today lenders an eye or whatever position you are calling out under fdic got to stop, especially in nature yeah, I'm going to colgate tension is too high. The country is too crazy. I didn't not want to look back and think we caused something or we missed something and someone got hurt. I don't want to play politics with a little to wake. Have, as you might imagine, some has republicans weren't super happy about that clip mad gates. Tweeted them occur, demonstrated quote the behaviour of weak man, not leaders, congressmen.

And a big called the comments, incredibly undermining and hears what Tucker karlsson had to say on fox Wednesday night. We do not mean certainly to suggest that it only Democrats who favour censorship for political ends, republican later support it too. In a phone call. Reporters neighbour, the new york times, for example, congressmen, Kevin Mccarthy of california, told us close friend with cheney than he hoped. The social media companies would sense. More conservative, republicans in congress donald trump. The sitting isn't he already been silenced by those companies but Mccarthy wanted the tec oligarchy to do more to force disobedient lawmakers off the internet, quote quote can't they take their twitter accounts away to those of the tape recorder. Words of congressmen, Kevin Mccarthy, a man who in private turns out

It's like an MSNBC contributor, and yet, unless concerns get their act together, right away, Kevin Mccarthy or one of his highly liberal allies, legal, we stefanik is very likely to be speaker of the house in January. That would mean we will have a republican congress led by a puppet of the democratic party. Just just Why is Tucker carlson's broadcast voice like the voice of a person? in a story book to a child like the in tunisia is lighter and that's why we can't let more black people into harvard it's like talk. I mean anyway, that The thing the thing about that is, curse care deregulation of least defining, as is widely liberal, whilst is absolutely wild. So there's

part of me that thinks ok. Well, I guess if Kevin Mccarthy gets out of the way, I don't like govern mccarthy whatsoever, I think would be fun to Jim, be sad and to have his it ambitions dashed by you know. The type that he has by the tail in the far right members of congress, it he's trying to wrangle, But, on the other hand, I think Tucker makes an interesting point because who's who's, who are we talking, would be speaker of the house, if not Kevin Mccarthy like how crazy are we talking here, I mean this look. I remember dan- and I talking about this when it went from Paul ryan, who he had plenty of bad things to say about to Kevin mccarthy- and I remember thinking of our maritime, but we went from John vainer to Paul ryan, like each incarnation of

republican how speaker is only going to get more extreme if it's not gonna Mccarthy? Is it steve's police like its they just they just get more extreme as you go down the line air? So it's not like I've. I found myself feeling like how you do, which is yes, it's fun to watch Kevin Mccarthy feel sad, but isn't chemic. Are these not speaker? It's not like. that's gonna, be beneficial in any way to the country, because we're only gonna have someone who's more extreme and all of these people are going to have to bend the need to donald trump and probably tucker Carlson now look, I guess, apparently Mccarthy went to the house caucus yesterday and met with member for the first time since this idea recording came out- and he got a standing ovation of There'S- a few freedom caucus members who is still giving up shit and, I think, demanded an apology or whatever, but it does make me think Ultimately, he might be able to survive this, but all- Him surviving this and becoming speaker means that he will only sort of

go along with whatever donald trump wants and whatever the freedom caucus wants and whatever tucker karlsson wants more so between oh and if he ever becomes speaker, god forbid, I think him lying about the virus, Three of the new york times story got knowing that there was odd you out there or, like probably having some inkling, that there was audio out there required in a death city in an ability to just manufacture your own truth. That It had been a little bit admirable to members of the freedom to act as a way of him lying, so so nothing I made when it really how earlier that look at this guy shit complete shamelessness heed, demonstrated the type of shamelessness that the modern geo p needs and a leader doesn't matter that. Maybe he was should talking donald trump as long as you sufficiently gravel like what we need is a person who can lie, knowing that there are real recordings of him doing the thing that citizen, do yeah now his wealth

republican knives also appear to be out for our good pale. Madison Catherine, you remember him I'll keep them for a sexual, get together a section. Get together. Experts look at that doesn't have foreign calling orgies as actual get together is my is my favorite quote of the law. Small sexual get netflix and chill with leg sectional, get together, He got in some trouble this week for for bringing a loaded handgun to an airport for Second time, and he also made violated federal, insider trading laws because of a pumpkin dumb scheme involving and I'm not making this up lead. Scope, Brandon crypto currency, medicine. Catherine, too good to be true, that's my question. yeah there's other things that I think that that should be send, alongside of of the village, comprehending crypto currency

which is when he, when he lied about training for the paralympics in a way that was very, very easy. For us Ireland peons to debunk, like he was posting these things on its social media accounts about how he was training, and always these paralympians were like no he's not he's a training. Is that going to the paralympics He he's lied about a lot of things. He is not a person who tells the truth very often He also, I believe I don't know why I have like brain cells devoted that have like stuck around that are devoted to to memorizing madison catherine facts, but I think he was in college for one semester and he dropped out cause. They had like a d average. He had a creepy reputation on campus for taking girls out and being like hanzi and way over the top and and crossing lines and the

a lot going on with madison copper. There's a lot not going on with medicines there. Certainly an hour ago. I find it very interesting that republicans have turned on catherine, so quickly and harshly. There is now a super pack affiliated with republican north carolina. Senator Tom tell us, that's already running, adds against him in it. like why. Why do you think they're going after car thorn so fast and so harshly, not some of the other wing nuts, like your your marjorie taylor in your your learn, barbours and your steve kings and all those people I mean This is going to sound, very tinfoil hattie, but I'm nothing if not a paranoid person or somebody who's, always trying to look for a sub text. My thought is that there is something that is well known to republicans about madison, Catherine, that they are just like we to get this.

out here like there is something about him that or something even worse than all of the stuff we just talked about again. Why is my brain? Why are there units in my very impressive know? I liked this is very impressive. I just it's it's like a it's like a grudge against a clown. Like I remembering oh yeah, and then he squirts the the water under the flower, and then he does? This he's got squeaky shoes. I it's. I think that there must be something else that is damning, disqualifying or harmful about madison hawthorne there is. on two republicans or he's going to be seen as somebody who can carry forward more damage then. The other young people he's also not a particularly I would imagine that you know marjorie taylor green for all of her. Nunnery is an effective fundraiser for the dual be she gets people to give money which is not to me that saying about a fool and his money being easily parted by marjorie taylor green. I think that madison cod,

he's probably not really offering the. Status quo, what it needs it may be more of a burden than help, and maybe bobo and Margaret taylor green bring them in ways that there is sort of like begrudgingly accepting of Margaret green this week, by the way, so that the catholic church is being and by satan, because there's all kinds, there's like catholic, increased missionaries that are resettling immigrants and refugees. That's that's where I do have a green was this week, but like no prob silence from republicans on that, but madison Catherine, you know he's. get me he's gettin the boat. You get, the super back money run against him why we want, as second, if the gothic church was run by satan, why was like easter, so chill this year is utter, would have been a banker this year of satan, the running of the catholic church like

the blessing in Saint Peter square, would have been just completely off the chain it would have been. I do think that, like vit people like mccarthy and other leaders of the republican party, think that green and bobo and those people like command, a large part of the base, or at least have or are admired by a large part of the base, and then in Madison Catherine probably doesn't have that connection, so they can like fuck with him a little bit. or which just goes to show you like, whose whose really leading the republicans, which is just you know, the most extreme members of the party in there and their fire that, yeah, and I I did want to add there was. There was a comment that stuck out to me in a madison cawthorne story, either this week or last, and it was from a former aide of his that was like madison cawthorne is a big old liar who lies about everything and like the

I don't know every time I read a story where someone is like yeah, but I can't say I'm just like there's something out there about medicine, Catherine, that we don't know yet that I think people are just like. Let's get this guy here, but a headache will substitute. When we come back, we will have a special climate edition of take appreciate her with the hosts of crickets news pike ass I take the pod. Save america is brought you by future future believes that people motivate people and having your own future coach isn't just the best approach is the only sustainable approach to your health and fitness future has built the most talented team of his coaches on the planet and when you join the future, you get paired with the one. That's right for you, your goals and your experience think about all the things that would be ridiculous to teach yourself or to be an expert on without a mentor teacher or coach a whole bunch of defense, Your coach will tailor your plans to your goals and balance, consistency and motivation to set you up for long term sustainable success.

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all right before we go. We have a special climate edition of take appreciate her and we are joined by the hosts of crickets newest pod, hot, take Mary enemies, heckler and Amy western belts welcome to the pod. Thank you. Thank you. Banks having ass were so excited about how take it such a good package, I'm so glad we ve been thinking about a climate pike us forever and you guys are done such an amazing job and where we are very happy that europe the family and everyone listening go. Please subscribed heartache if you haven't already, you will not regret. Thank Now. This is the part of the segment where I handed over to our chief, take officer, illogical, Hey Mary having us meet, you guys, welcome the network, think we're gonna play special climate edition of the take appreciate her so to say: no, how work samina shares and takes with you for mountain the content, industrial com, wax the producers of players have not they'll give their reactions.

read them on a scale of one to four poetic, goes with four politicos being the most egregious John Amy and mary: are you ready. air transport, where you can you do a half, can you do have polluted, Yeah, but you can give it, you can acquire percentage there, no rules, honestly a great a great question. I can't believe none of us have ever thought about doing public. That's great, I'm into it. Okay, let's see, if I actually do it now Well, we're going to solve the scorcher here. This one is a clap all I'll say about it is I'm sorry advance charlotte go ahead in as I've said before and been mocked for it? The simple fact of the matter is over the course of the next hundred years. When you see all these maps and it's like this area will be flooded and all those people will be dead, no because they won't be living there, because, as it turns out when the tide rises, people move inland. This is what has been happening throughout human history. Not a huge number of people were killed, presumably land bridge between russia and alaska that that from which therapies could see

right when, when that land bridge ended up being covered up in water and tens of thousands of people who died in that because it took thousands of years for that to be covered up by water, slow moving crises are not crises, their problems, not emergence so then Shapiro I would regarding. I, then appear. I would recognise that nasal twinning anywhere a network yeah. like I said, I'm sorry in advance. That is by fire here, man, man, what you guys take the first query, I'm just I'm. I've heard this a million times, but I'm legit speechless like who, like his whole thing because you're supposed to sell when their homes get blooded, people will sell them, but like so fucking, who I also like there's only so much livable. Alright, this is so stupid. This is so incredibly stupid, but I also don't believe a stupid. I don't believe Ben Shapiro is actually this stupid. I believe Ben shapiro

this heartless and he masquerades it and stupidity. He knows everybody can't move, he knows. Look. He just doesn't care about those people. He doesn't think that their lives matter rattle. The bottom line is fuck been shapiro. Ever want to hear that voice again: oh, but how many politicos mary, four and a half that's it, that's a for that. The playbook and a mac whirr yeah. Yes, yes, like my skins crawling yeah, he's grass amy I would be. I would also given a full playbook, because I think that- and I agree that Ben Shapiro is not stupid and I agree that he is heartless, but I also think he's strategic- and this is like a very compelling talking points for people like oh yeah, that's true people will just move,

now who's going to help them move, do they have the money to move to? Where are they going to move, and are we going to accept all those people coming into this country that need to move because of sea level rise, cause, I'm pretty sure Ben Shapiro says no, so so yeah? I agree. Four. maybe four point: two five and I'll go slightly less yeah. This is one of the one of the more awful ben shapiro takes. It is a classic, of course, but yeah. The idea that also the like, just like everyone, has the resources to just pick up and move and by just just move to their second or third homes when their first home floods is completely insane, and it is, I think, to marry what you were saying like he's just so much of climate denial, I think, is just justification for not giving a shit because you think well in my lifetime, I'm going to get through it and everyone else screw them. That's it so yeah, I'm good

the full playbook for sure yeah was agreed. A sweet lodge starting the queensway before playback and just a little reminder that Ben Shapiro's company is funded in part by boyle and fracking billionaire, so he's not an object commenter on this topic and not at all shocked. Now I am scared for the restart. Will the next one I think is it doing the second I've learned a lot about the current discussion on climate change that this announcement isn't so much politicos we're going to need to change the scale here to science fiction like long before science fiction's. So this is a piece from the new york times. Titled what's the least bad way to cool the planet. The piece explains that

can stop making climate climate change worse through reducing emissions by repairing the damage is its own problem. It leads us to this club to call the planet in this century. Humans must either remove carbon from the air or use solar. oh engineering, a temporary measure that may reduce pay temperatures, extreme storms and other climates climatic changes. Humans might make the planet more reflective by adding tiny, sulphuric acid droplets to the stratosphere from aircraft, widening low level clouds over the ocean or other interventions. And then it goes on to explain the merits. Solar geo engineering, guys I mean putting sulfuric acid droplets to seriously the sky. Is this the general? This is complete science fiction. Ok,. Take this one, because this is this- is literally been going on for like twenty years. These guys trot this idea every few years and

there is actually their support. To be a real world experiment with us over sweden, and if you ve heard about this in your research, harvard was doing an experiment in a tube for awhile. There like we need to do this in the real world am, and the people of Sweden, of course, are like maybe somewhere else, because one of the many things its potentially wrong with you in generic ailing. We just don't know what other things might happen. This is only been tested in labs and that's part of why the scientists were saying we need a test us in the real world, because we just of now and part of their reasoning, also is they were, I think, probably accurately, predicting that at some point some psychopathic autocrat will be like Just geo engineer happened, and we need to know like one that will actually due to the planet.

And so it is actually a thing that people have been studying for a long time. Unfortunately, I think it's something that a lot of tech billionaires have been investing in because it's like the ultimate get out of jail free card, and it's not because it's the best solution- and this is also why I feel like tech billionaires- are a problem when they invest in these things in general, because it's it's basically like pointing policy in a direction that suits them, not necessarily the direction that science says. Oh, this is an actually good solution. Looking for looking for the easy way up, yeah, that's right! It's it's like the tech equivalent of a bunker. New zealand? That's it. So I guess for science fictions happen, actually, maybe three as its language science, and there is some like you know, validity to the science, and I do actually they could be helpful to understand how it works, because I agree that I think some psycho will pull the records.

Why? But is it a good solution? Now? It's not my. My first reaction is that you know we have so many tools at our disposal to to get out of global warming or not get out of it, but to reduce greenhouse gas emissions that we are simply not using, and so I feel like we got a lot of other shit to try before we go turning off the slow, and so I guess- Jimmie dale out putting on level three or by also is like big tech- has just rubbed it a lot of things. It has not solved. A lot of things is disrupted the media and create this world.

Or like we have different reality. You know so like they've disrupted dating, and I want a personal apology for them. I don't want them disrupting earth's people, don't have a good track record. They don't like understand problems before they go solving them. So, like I, I want big tech to disrupt itself people disrupting the the the eco system. Yes yeah, so I dunno how many science fiction's. That is, it's more like a sit down I'm, I'm gonna give it our many of it too and a half based only on you, know it and take a procedures, usually like We give a lot of politicos for people who are like purposely trying to troll rights because they're so bad and I feel like I feel like this. This article wasn't really trying that hard. It was just sort of it was a little bit of wish casting. It sounds like from the science, so they get, they get two and a half just for being a bunch of.

knucklehead spare. Like a really good, truly one coming off before he gets here as well ass, you guys and genuinely curious after a problem for the segment. How do you guys view mitigation verse adaptation that old debate? It's not a dip, it's a false debates. Both I and you have to do both. That's like the simple answer is just like that, of course, it makes no sense.

it's a stop trying to reduce emissions. It also makes no sense to just do nothing about the fact that we're already seeing heat waves and more fires and floods and all that stuff. You know you gotta, do all right. The fact that that debate still exists means that there were like we're stuck in this world, where we don't think global warming has happened right. You know, like the earth has already warmed by a degree. So if you're still debating this, unlike the nineteen nineties when I well, actually, I think the world hasn't warmed by that point. If you yeah it's sort of right right not to this like dangerous point where you're getting hurricanes that evolve overnight, and so I think that when we propose mitigation and adaptation as being in conflict with one another, we don't we're not recognizing how

The world that we live in is actually a different planet than the one we were born on. Yes, good point. I should call well scarier, I know it was last one is so hot. It might melt the ice caps itself. It's from fox news. I am sorry Please call climate change is saving hundreds and thousands, wise or hundreds of thousands of wives. Here's a quarter Can we turn that citizens are ok? Stuff is acquired more or died from cold weather than hot, do landed study report Well, half a million people die from he per year. Roughly four point: five million die from cold. Global warming has reduced the intensity of extreme cold weather. Now we see fewer cold deaths

guys who said. Oh god, oh my god who said it tucker girls, girls. No regard for those now Mary is stone. Faced right now we ve vanity, anyway, I dont know anyone's name just jesse waters course gregg, outfield yeah I go here. We go use of the go down the list of it. It till you get stupid or stupider yeah yeah! That's it! It's actually! That's it. You know what that gets full playbook for sure, because that is just an I mean it's a tried and true track right that, like it's, not the warming, it's the it's the cold and actually gets read for us yeah basis, whether so, but you know at the way that he did, that saving lives. That's that's. It take to be appreciated. That gets a full play, but yeah yeah, that's it.

That's a intentional troll. It reminds me of. There is a period of time. Actually I think they still do it occasionally, where em, like the hard core climate deniers would say actually more co2 is good because it will grow more plants that, but I think it's on fire with that so yeah. I agree foreplay book I'm gonna, give it to play books were working all of the roles, bringing all the rules and I am doing so because one it is stupid- but is also an incredibly dangerous and I dont believe, is genuine. I dont believe the person who set this out on to the prison wrote this blueprint wrote produced. This segment believes that right, I absolutely One thousand percent, I'm just like they knew that the insurrection you know was

dangerous and people like what we know about what they say in private and what they say in public is wildly debray. These people are not this stupid they're, not this due to their just this evil. In this crave, so yeah too playbooks, and maybe a swift kick in the first to play, but yeah well. This is definitely our first two playbook plus swift kick in the nuts and take a picture. So yes, well and then also they're, taking legit research in the lancet and trainers spin. It as like proof. proof point of climate denial. You know like just gross right, though they re the research they well better yeah. They know full fucking better. I guarantee they are not buying coastal property in florida, they're, not bankers. Right now, yeah, hey! It's like what was that? What was that republican strategists who, like redlands, all of a sudden, it's like my yeah, that dude he's like all of a sudden,

my bad. I lied to you all about climate change new it the whole time I gotta house in new zealand, good luck, fuck yeah yeah. They know what they're doing we're sitting on a purely execution, so important break up this kind of a try hard. You know you gotta be more so not subtle enough for you, yeah I played appear earlier, and I mean definitely saw guy I welcome the never guys, I'm sorry I beg to differ saliva is always thanks. Marianne S, heckler and Amy western belt, and thank you aaron ryan, for coasting today. Thank you. Everyone go, please subscribed to heartache if you haven't already- have a great weekend and we will talk to you next week. Holiday of america is a cricket media production. The executive producer is Michael Martinez. Our senior producer is Andy gardner bernstein are producer is hearing

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