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“The Era of Big Government is Back.”


Senate Democrats pass Joe Biden’s $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan, the fight for the $15 minimum wage continues, and Joe Manchin opens the door to reforming the filibuster. Then Virginia State Delegate Danica Roem talks to Jon Lovett about the fights over trans rights happening in statehouses across the country.

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One point: nine trillion dollar american rescue plan by a single vote. Thanks to this of all fifty Democrats. The bill now goes back to the house. Were Democrats are expected to approve the changes made by the and it President Biden will sign the bill shortly afterwards. He had this to say at the White House. After it passed the Senate elected, I said, get the government out of the business badly. On twitter and back business and delivery for the american people, making a difference in their lives, giving when a chance, a fighting chance. Of showing the american people that their government can work for them. pass in. The american rescue plan will do that No, I may sound strange, but a lot of sense. Asian congressman. I wanna thank, but I really want
Thank the american people for making all this possible the most significant piece of legislation to benefit working families in the modern history of this country. not one of your meal. Lib she'll hosts talking. That was a statement from Budget Chairman Bernie Sanders, guys. Why does Bernie think that? What are some of the highlights for each of you that haven't been talked about as much time? You start with it the era of big government is back baby. I mean this is excellent. I say something really big and totally unfounded, which is that decisions on a fundamental rejection of Reagan isn't right in the treatment of government as the enemy it's a bit of a rejection of quickness and that we want focus on that, but yeah it took an approach why'd. I let's do it. I state whispered, but you know that, I don't like attacking other podcast us
I ask whether this is a truly is naturally progressive, Billy targets, money towards the poorest people. I mean like the most exciting part of this bill- might be the fact that the White House believes it will cut child poverty by forty five percent as much as fifty percent among families and many advanced countries. I think seventeen is the is reed subsidize having a child. Canada provides up to forty eight hundred dollars per child per year. The united It is finally getting on in the game on this front, because there's tons of evidence that suggest that falling into power even for a short period of time as a child has causes permanent damage in terms of your magic regional attainment, your wages, your health, so This could be an enormous, enormous piece of an even bigger bell and upon their ex. I'm sure love it like some of the same parts. I do yeah. I think I was u setting stepping back there.
A big fight over the minimum wage is actually extraordinary that the democratic caucus was largely unite around the amount. The dollar amount of one point: nine trillion dollars and that really didn't move very much. We'll talk about others that the other fights they played out inside of of the bill, but that tells you something really positive about had just how much the democratic caucus has shifted every. We know an across the board buying shoe Bernie everybody recognizes the importance of like going big and giving people a chance They can see that they can deposit in a bank. That's like bold and simple, and that they were worried more about doing too little, rather than doing too much I agree on the on what Tawny mentioned. I do think that this it is amazing how much politics is shifted even in the past year. This that the fact that the child's benefits extends to people who
Pass, wouldn't have been able to get it because it was phased out for people as they made less money it in Qualify, for it becomes much more like a universal benefit. A universal basic income almost for parents were kids, and I think that's gonna be hard to walk back. So there's a lot of things like that that I think, are are the reason Bernie is trying to make people understand that this is more than just but this is covered relief that also, I think, laid the groundwork for a much more progressive government, yet rights have been traditionally in love, with, like tax credits inside some sort of complicated benefits that the of allowances. Literally gonna be like a monthly check of up to three hundred dollars per child for a lot of low income families, even low income families who are out of work gloves over at New York magazine, said that this bill would put more than seven votes six hundred dollars into the bank account of the typical family of four. When you combine the direct payments with the child allowance in some of the other benefits,
twenty seven billion dollars and rental assistance for those facing eviction driven. Radically lowers hell insurance premiums through the affordable care act just almost got no attention in the bill so middle, to upper income, people start can get subsidies. The first time on the Asia and lower income, people have even bigger subsidies, and they had before three. billion dollars for child care providers and giant orangist, inviting one specific on that healthcare point. Anyone is era, lost their job in trying to file for cobra knows how much it fucking sucks right. I'll! Let you buy into plans that you know. but you no longer have your employer footing. Part of the bill switched prohibitively expensive. This bill covers one hundred percent of cobra premiums for two years that just at enormous the siege for someone they didn't, desperately healthcare but lost their jobs because of this bill, and they he's, gonna reduce the number of uninsured by, like one point three million next year says I want to add that is this, so the great pieces of this this bill. It's
its enormously beneficial to people around healthcare, thirty, nine billion for child care providers. It's gonna make all stew on forgiveness, tax free, which is a huge deal. It will save the pensions of more than one million unionized workers were about to lose their retirement. It will sharp this pensions for the next thirty year, love Republicans trying to push that around as an attack. Oh, oh yeah. Save people's retirements Orban, who'd been working as a tough one. in the largest public investment in native communities ever by the government I mean this. Is you know I think there are bills and we're gonna talk about you know what we didn't get the bell, but their bills. Were you compromise a lot and say you know well, in the end, the good still outweighs the bad. So half a loaf is better than nothing. This is not there kind of bill. In my opinion, I think this is I think this time we got most of a loaf. That's pretty fucking big
the loafers huge, I regret to say. Yes, I think you have to say look better. It seems like there we can do more, but you can say like there is one of these three negotiations. One was over the direct payments. One was over there. unemployment and women's over the minimum wage. The minimum wage fight was, I think, are a defeat. It was a defeat for progressives. It is fully not in the bill. We had hoped that it would be an error that pushes that fight completely off by as much as I think that the logic around reducing who is just producing by seventeen million, who is eligible for the direct payment. so are changing the formula on you. I, which actually kind of we can talk about what the actual Locations of that are like. Let's remember Republicans whether we were how there was that there was a moment where Susan Collins and nine other Republicans. We're going to meet with Joe Biden at the White House they had proposed. Six hundred billion bind was at one point, nine billion. There is a genuine
bait as to whether not where are you going to land with someplace in the middle so that he could get republican boats love it a anonymous Biden adviser who clearly knows where their boss really well decided to be a source political not long ago and said oh well. The these activities and went to the White House in them and the White House sort of Poohpooh the the meeting and said it wasn't really productive and that must be wrong. Cleans fault. The job I know would never do that and clearly Joe mansions gonna make the number come down from one point: nine to at least one point three Joe mentioned in the final toppling member come down at all read that is an enormous victory and also the vets to anyone who wonders. Ok, what was it worth? Two windows, Georgia, Senate races. The conservative estimate is about one point, three trillion dollars right like that. Physically, the delta between the Republican Senate proposal,
when they had no leverage right? They pray could have chopped down even more if they had a item eleven right and what was actually pass. A one point three trillion dollars is is what you, All who fight for these Georgia's entity, it's got for the american people. Good job, and where would be aim by the way it is also where would be ain't right, because Cares ACT had five hundred billion for corporation right there exactly and interest to put it minor point on the election, you know Nearly a hundred sixty million votes that were Cason November David produce Republican Centre from Georgia was, Fourteen thousand votes away from avoiding a run off against John US off, which he then loss, which then gave us the Senate fourteen thousand votes. That is how, we came to one point, nine trillion dollars being like Tommy's at either six hundred billion dollars, or maybe nothing grant etc, is about general international economy. You that's the general, that's the highest, putting those dominion machines, their words like most forward thinking and think about how much I was such a good decision.
Well. How do you think binds rescue plan compares above substantively and politically with the other two most recent rescue plans? Trumps cares act back in March of a year ago and Obama's Recovery ACT doesn't nine. Let's do the Recovery ACT first, divided reports this to divide. We would do so to say you know like we have a joke we now to basically which is like Recovery ACT is divided into three parts, because we would say that every time Barack Obama gave a speech The recovery act so who cut with seven hundred and eighty seven billion dollars this One point nine. So this is two and a half the size but that was also divided into, as Tommy palpably pointed out into three parts, a third of which protect benefits, a third of which were released for people who had lost their jobs or an otherwise it s. Her economic trouble and then another It was long term investments in infrastructure and just end. There is, there's two things: one there's more money in this bill at a much bigger bill. also that bill was design is John said to kind of it was based on the theory that you kind of now
people in various small ways to get them to spend the most overall more efficiently with very well may be true, but a man. A lot of these benefits were hidden so that some at some of the and of its for individuals, were through payroll task credits. It there. Not see in their paychecks in it. We have this that the the The this one point: nine trillion dollar stimulus gives people an additional three hundred hours a week. This mix the in which unemployed and there's got direct help, but it was more like twenty five dollars weaken direct unemployment insurance, at least in one part of the bill and even so, this was also a third The money was for a long term infrastructure projects. It just give you a sense that, like this is- more money that will be will be able to see a note they're getting and know the origin of it, because I do think that that is one of the lessons from the recovery and we invest MAC and by the way we had to pass the recovery act through regular order, which means we need.
Sixty votes for it. People forget that and so be, and why did we do that? Because we couldn't find even fifty one democratic senators were willing to go through reconciliation back then, because everyone was, you know so enamoured with the Senate rules like so rather frustrations. We have now with your magic. in cinema withdraw legitimate like we had a bunch, of conservative to moderate democratic senators back in two thousand and nine who just didn't want to go through the reconciliation route, and we had to find in that's why the bill was ended up being smaller. You know and then in terms of the Cares ACT, I do think that even the trumps Cares ACT was like two point, trillion dollars a slightly more money than this. It did deliver much more of the benefits to businesses than it did individuals more to upper income, people than it did to lower and middle class income people. So this is a much more progressive piece of metal patient, then the cares means also good remembered into those nine. I think Democrats had thought that the recovery ACT would be the first, but not the last stimulus bill. Now we ran into Mitch Mcconnell, who was happy
the country if it harp Obama politically and benefited him right and into their great credit by it. In shimmer and policy. They did not make that mistake this time and in your dear point about the cares. Actually, the cares acted a lot of good we're right. Five hundred, billion dollars of that bill was enough. Of loans and other money did they corporations and that that had to happen you couldn't have bank yell airlines going Bankrupt will allow us targeted. Similarly, the PPP programme. The small businesses created winner and losers in way that was not great, and so this is direct money to people, strict money to states the schools, and I do think that this. lorries are written about how effective it is right, but that in the way the money is used will be uneven, so some states will take the check they get from the federal guy then and now invested and stuff. We think is important. Some red say governors approaches, give rich people a big taxes.
If it's just kind of is how it is, but this is a hell of a hell of a good start. If you want to, you know, get the economy running, I will say politically to the fact that every republican and most Democrats voted for the Cares ACT and its two point. Two trillion dollars bending opened the door. I thank your shirt for more moderate Democrats to vote for this much money this time around. So I guess thank you. Donald Trump Fit for that leg. The vega we republican president, who was now, just solely focused on deficits, though I can remember one who really was forget profits conspicuous in either, but the fact that both the drug administration, partly because he wasn't paying any fucking attention to legislating, actually was and because he thought that by giving people money, he could win real. Action re like that's what that those are the motive, the probably drove him. So
great motives, but I do think it opened the door for Democrats mostly muttered Democrats is that yeah we're not afraid to spend a bunch of money now. I also, as I do think we benefited from the fact that report and spent this week angry at the entity that controls doctors uses image for the bran maintenance they decided to do. I do like it's a big deal like we're doing like government here, Politics is gonna, ultimately to government. We're due the government part right now Are you doing this suits part? I saw I saw so you're Hackett, who worked for William Castro, during the primary tweeted just now once as undemocratic prominent democratic, should go out and say that french one stone is racist, and then we quickly eliminate the filibuster Fox news coverage for emu. Tioga, obviously, like that's a joke, but is it A third is my my work might work so every mentioned by mid democratic leaders didn't get everything they wanted in the bill. We took them Thursday about how Centre moderates demanded to lower the upper income threshold for the fourteen hundred dollar direct payments from
a thousand down to eighty thousand, Joe Mansion made a last minute demand to reduce the expanded weekly unemployment benefits from an extra four hundred dollars a week to three There's a week, though, the first hand as in two hundred dollars worth of benefits, will now be tax deductible enough. that Bernie Sanders forced on the fifteen dollar minimum wage failed when eight Senate Democrats voted no, including Arizona Here's the cinema. quite a bit of attention when she marked her vote by flashing thumbs down on the Senate floor tell me what's with the unemployment change, which we apparently almost lost your mansion in the entire bill over. What do you think that was all about? I dont know, I mean it like is hard to know if he really so The generous explanation is that he really did want to try to target as much of this bill ass. He could to people under a certain income threshold. But like there also just seems like there's. A part of his purse reality and his gun? philosophy where he just draw these lines in the sand and then has to be dragged, kicking and screaming
back over them I mean that the final changes he made in terms of unemployment, insurance or the four hundred dollars a week went to three hundred dollars a week. That's significant, this that last minute wrangling like basically what happened was to get it Yes, the benefit is expire on September sixth instead of September thirty first Andy Tax forgiveness, part of this will be capped at people who make a hundred fifty grand in income which all said and done wasn't that significant of a change when you look at the scope of the bill. Yet it also love it to me seemed like You know listening to your mansion. Talk about these last minute, wrangling, listen to them the other senators, who like really tried hard to convince him. I mean it really did come close to their was apparently port on amendment from Rob Portman that was just gonna. Take them money down from four hundred to three hundred without me any of its tax deductible and have a shorter time frame, and mention was ready to go at that and of manner
did vote for their important amendment, it could have sunk to build. The house progresses in the house could have said no and just like sitting down twisting arms talking negotiated, compromising like they got mansion back. Tells me that, like a some of the recent dimension, is against bills or for bills or against Persians. Provisions are for provisions like make little sense and be like he is getting awful like. If you talk to him and sat down with him, it's you know, you can actually bring him back and that would allow the democratic centres did yeah. I think it is going to continue to be hard to tell when Joe Mansion has eight legitimate, moderate policy view based on talking to Democrats and Republicans and finding a I should say moderate finding the center of the Senate, which is quite conservative mom. and when he just actually kind of also believes in a by partisan. process that he has a kind of aesthetic or the kind of faith in by parties
and behaviour and wants to model it or three? He knows he's gonna, ultimately vote for a lot of massive, very progressive, democratic pro. Parties, as is done in this case, and he wants to do some performative, sir. Tourism, some performative moderation- I dont- think he hates it. Well then, Graham and Johnston are on the floor of the Senate. Joking about, like oh, oh, no they're going to they're going to get my friend Joe Manchin. Somebody protect your mansion from these democratic. I don't think he hates that at all like in this case, That would something where I think we're. people that comes out in the wash, but not for people who make over a certain amount he won't get the tax benefit it seems like he might impart, have been genuinely persuaded by people who said Republicans who old him in person in this issue. Much of a benefit is going to dissuade people from what we can disagree with him on that, but I think there's with him gonna be a mix of those three incentives. Tell me what you think we do about the minimum wage. Now it wasn't just cinema, but eight democratic senators, mansion tester.
This king of main ginger, human, Maggie hasnt of New Hampshire Tom Carper, Increase Koontz of Delaware. They all say they want a minimum wage higher than the current. Miserable minimum wage of seven dollars and twenty cents an hour it hasn't been raising over a decade but did make it through did make it through this bill, What do we do now? We look very very disappointing. It is not clear to me if they voted against it because they think fifteen dollars is too high or it was because the parliamentarian, in this instance determined that it couldn't be part of the bill, but it frustrating deserve a benchmark piece of legislation out there called the raised the wage acting as Bernie bill. It is thirty, seven democratic cosponsor it which nowhere near enough, so I mean, I think, we're There have to make the case twist. Some arms try to get fifty people find it. they do it in another conciliation bill or republic. and Democrats are going to have to find a compromise that power
Basel II is closer to an eleven dollar minimum wage increase. But if taken index that to inflation. That could be an important development and in up in an he had just been stock for a decade now really needs to be increased however, when you think about that thumbs down from Kaerusson Cinema, my dont, don't care, I am, and I am I find her logic frustrating I find them policy decision frustrating. I don't give a shit how she votes. Sometimes they vote with their thumbs down. I don't care Don't care at all, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. They look a lot. I dont like those things like. Where do we want? Where do we want to channel our energy right like think we're gonna general energy now is what Tommy was just saying, which is like ok, if you have made, May the press at every single, centred, even republican centres, wants a higher minimum wage trait. So if you can a compromise, even with Republicans, to get eleven something around there. That's index to inflation, maybe get sixty votes for that or maybe, as then has suggested you fire the parliamentarian quietly so
next time you do a pickaxe like they should get a more favourable ruling, and then you see what what Democrats want? higher wage, maybe get eleven, maybe get twelve from them. The other thing that we can do is the fairness project. That is one minimum wage ballot measures in nine states red purple. blue. They want to do more in twenty twenty two, let's get it on the ballot in in some states, we can win it very red states there and then, like as we look ahead to twenty two. We have bunch democratic candidates, we're gonna nominate for the Senate? Let's make sure they specifically support of fifteen dollar minimum wage and when other people This too, is like we should focus on the people who voted no and try to stand why they voted no and like, for example, shocking she said. Basically, she is worried about the tipped minimum wage given the vulnerability, the restaurant industry. Let's make an arguing about that. We make an argument about why it's really important to raise the Tipp Minimum Wage Cinema had a problem with the process and whether not to do it through
reconciliation, maybe she's, open now to doing our fifteen our minimum wage. Otherwise, so like each of these points, who voted no offered a different motivation. Let's understand those motivations and which of them are getting to get that number higher and higher and closer to fifty, because the closer we are to fifty. I think that Better position will be into negotiate if it ultimately comes down to negotiation over coming down from fifteen to thirteen to another number finding and other kinds of compromise, for example, when it look, like the fifteen diamond minimum wage, was gonna, come out, there's a brief moment where there is. Option for figuring out await you. Just do a fifteen Dodd men wait for big corporations that fell away because it seemed complicated and and their requests. but how to administrate, but like that they policy idea. That's been floating around for a long time and raising the minimum wage for big corporations with great pressure on the wage across country. So like there are. There are different paths we postpone should pursue, but like
would say like focusing on the actual motivation for those people and criticise them put pressure on them, but, like understand their reasons, yelling you dont, have to like her we're stuck with cares and sentimental. Twenty twenty four we're stuck with mention intelligent, we're stuck with them. There, They're gonna have jobs, there's nothing. We can do and so it we need their votes. We every single vote in the in a sentence. It's tie right until two thousand and twenty two, and maybe we get some more sandwiches if we're very lucky and work very hard, so what are we write loved that, like understanding what has caused these people to oppose? It is much better than like. I see a lot of people. Tweeting old statements I'll be senators who voted. No, that's how they want to raise the minimum wages of its. I gotcha hypocrite in outside, well all the waterways the reason and wage either they dont. Think fifteen is the right amount which I disagree with. I want fifteen. We all want fifteen or they didn't like the process. Right so like understand, why didn't like it get everyone in a room and, let's, like figure out a way to do? This, just seemed like the best bet,
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screen out undocumented worker, so their bill is not designed to just help the working poor designed to be a wedge issue and probably up a popular but in the sign of how full of Shit Tom Cotton is Arkansas, His home state already has a minimum wage above tender. there's an hour, so this guy's proposing something that doesn't even help his own constituents? I think that tells you all you need to know about their sincerity in this area level. what is the unified republican opposition to this bill say to you about the future of bi partisanship in the in the binary. I say, prospects are not good, especially because look we talked about this. I think the fact that, like it's actually a bat. Obviously I think republicans we're never gonna support on mass this bill. There does not. You gotta tell tells you something about the ape asymmetric polarization in our country. That Democrats got behind. The cares act.
Republicans will not get behind us, but the fact that none peeled off not at not dig nowhere begins to made the calculation that, like that they should but their party and get behind. This kind of legislation tells you how much more afraid Republicans our primaries in the general election. How difficult will be to pry Republicans? from their their leaders and from the base to vote with The crowds even on very, very popular built like this one They told me I, like my view. As you know, Biden obviously part of his campaign. Was him saying, and I can probably I can deal with mitch- Mcconnell the feverish break, some of the sum of what we from Obama back in the day, to part of it was. You know, I think I can bring the country together around a sort of big policy goals. It feels like he achieve the ladder here, even if he did not achieve the former they look at people like the bill. The more you tell him about the dog obey if they liked it more right. I mean it can argument about Washington polarization that they partisanship is action.
Worse than it was under Obama, because their recovery ACT got republican votes other vastly different bills. Let's may be apples oranges, but you know the thing that I think is hard to understand and confusing about all of this in terms of how it shakes out is that Trump in the republic Congress are in very different places when it comes to these issues. Roaming trump blames Mcconnell for the Georgia Senate loss, because Democrats ran on giving two thousand dollar checks in Mitch would only offers Six hundred dollar checks so that the future of their working party is very much endowed with this major trump Slash Mcconnell split. And I'm not exactly sure what what path they will charge. but it does seem like the republican members Congress are wildly out of step with the country, even their own voters. That's the most important point. I think for buying the Democrats to keep making right. This whole thing has been the test for binding bi partisanship, its test by
has done great Biden decided to put forth a bill that most Americans, including republican support. He asked Republicans for their input. He met with them, They decided that they didn't really want to play ball. Everyone in the country or seventy percent of the country still support the bill. It's a bill that will deliver benefits to people in blue states in red states. he had a bunch of mayors and governors will Republicans supporting a too if a bunch of people and in Dc Wanna be you know, intransigent and discontent continue to oppose every single thing. He does that's their problem, they're the ones step with the voters and also say that, like. I have obviously there's a lot of different ways. You can describe unity, it's entirely nebulous concept, but one thing that was striking. Is, after this, after this past right no republican votes there. Is it There is a times piece. Tat was like Joe Biden, efforts to produce unity couldn't overcome the acrimony of Washington and the bitter fight over the stimulus bill. Everything was a better life.
It was no better, it was. It was Can't you know like it. Abnormal to have a republican party, not interest in saving the country in the midst of a pandemic, but the actual process by which produce yeah. I get your usual bullshit from your Tom cotton saying. Oh it's just that for prisoners, even though they did the exact same thing with whatever there's a lot of the usual shit, but like this wasn't vertically your fight desires, you think it was a much less bitter fight than the fight of robotic hair and a lot of respects in terms of how it actually played out. So I don't know, I think I am Why? What binds that right is focused on actual policy, not twitter? I think his um having some knock on effects That was it. Maybe in the in the inaugural he's at every disagreement, doesn't have to be a cause for total war. That's the standards set then that's what happened with this bill, there's a bunch of disagreements, but like everyone's removed on, we passed a huge progressive piece of legislation. Great then add some great ideas in this week's message box. This weakens message box about how to sell the american Rescue Plan Tommy Honey.
If our important, you think it is to take a victory lap on this end, and do you have any any other good ideas on how to sell this thing it's important, sell any accomplishment, and this one in particular because, as we talked but earlier in the pulling the more people here about this bill, the more. They will like it now. I do think this is it. This is a very different sales job than Obama attempted to do in two thousand and nine right as the way Biden is going to sell this bill will be in part to just continue to manage the vaccine roll out while, like we have even talked about the fact that this bill provides a ton of money from covet testing for vaccinations, People want the people want the vaccine or if they don't want the vaccine, they want others around them to be vaccinated so that the cases drop down they get their lives back right. People who get checks will be happy to get a fourteen hundred object. They need it I do worry a bit about the people who got it the first time during the trip the administration and aren't getting a check this time. Beak
as the the income threshold was changed, but hopefully Biden hang that change around the Republicans napkin and make them make them own it, Look, I'm glad that by saying I want to be out there. I want to talk about this bill. I want to sell it hard. I think that the there deftly room to criticise the ways Obama, White House did or did not say the stimulus in two thousand nine, but is also an entirely different context. Like unemployment was way higher, the economy wasn't recovering fassig. Hopefully the Biden he will be in a place going into the mid terms where divided the covert outbreak has just been managed completely in the country in the economy is just is cooking again, because this was a very different recession. It wasn't a big structural. Challenge with the banks. It was you know everybody having to sit in their houses. They didn't want get sick yet
it certainly wasn't fur lack of trying that we didn't really sell the De Recovery ACT into. Doesn't I love it? How many times do we the recovery ACT is divided into three parts. He did a lot of events after the billows pass. He traveled all over the country that a turn of events, I think part of the problem. As you know, the substance of the bill, like you, said, Tommy, there's like an lovey, pointed this out too, that there's like tax changes. The people can't really see. As you know, Posada peace. This weekend that said, Ed Randal, I can only bring at up but He wanted Obama to send a letter to every American saying what benefits they were going again and we said no, I think Ed Randal was right no doubt Donald Trump, If I can sign the czech sties, I'm the stimulus checks like I at the time I wasn't one of the people criticise in that yeah sign the Fuckin checks Joan. I just didn't want him to know. I don't want you to sign up. I don't want to name those fuckin checks right its valuable to do that. Yes, we look there, no vaccine for the
it's alright lending and and mortgage crisis that was unfolding, and so has no clear end in sight, and so we were a very careful, a prisoner bonnet very carefully were very carefully speechwriters to make sure that, even as we talked about all the things Recovery ACT, did we very nervous about sir. Turning to Pollyanna about the state of the economy, because it how things were and how long they were going to be heart. So I do think that part of it is just it's a different sort of crisis the agenda at the briefing this morning that the vast majority of Americans will be getting some relief by the end of this month to that's a huge different in both the Recovery ACT and the affordable CARE act which, like the benefits for that and kick until two there's no way, and so the fact that a bunch of Americans are gonna. U know they'll know this bill passing a month later, gonna get relief, I mean binds gotten address. Primetime address its third. They now scheduled to talk about covered he's, we think, has the rest, a Congress. His is joint session to Congress, which is like a state of the union in the first year, hopefully that to sell
I saw a story that they're gonna be working with, like social media. Influencers sort get the word out two different communities that they're doing this, so I think it's gonna be a full court press and what Pfeiffer pointed out in his message bucks to as like it's up to all of us to it, everyone who worked so hard. to organise. In this election till I get friends to vote that work and in use in selling what Joe Biden actually did for people, because people don't know that the government did anything for them like you can't blame them for not voting again You got to be explicit. Just a paraphrase MIKE Tyson for second, like everyone's got a roll out plan. Until you get punched in the face, I mean some shit is going to happen. That is going to entirely change the focus of the national conversation. Maybe it'll be another. Other doctors related crisis, or maybe it'll, be something farmers, eras, we don't now. I hope that their able to really focus on this bill and sell to the american people, but, like you always have the choice.
Fox NEWS certainly isn't gonna help. You don't give a shit what you say oh fuck Susan. I grow like a region it and we can spend their every episode of pod, save America being like now for a two minute segment on the american rescue plan. My support is impossible to do that. Like some of this is going to be, you know, there's some outside positions, organism paid advertising. I think that's predator out yeah. I think that's but part of it too They would you just need again. We ought to have to get some mega markets to say that a prince Philip fucking hated it. Professor I would be a good idea. Think outside the box, Romania hesitating to like one of it. One of the challenges you like, I think, by knowledge to talk about Cuba, the fight for the minimum wage, because I do think that like people were pointed and the fight over the minimum wage, I think, could for a lot of people until then, if they dont know more about what's in this like he could overlook, that defeats could overshadow the the that the enormity of what achieved, and so I think by people like Elizabeth. I thought struck the perfect note when she was describing this like how
the victory this is, but on a come on I've on these key issues like the fight continues and biometric data to, and then very well and in some even in like very online communities, people were wallowing in the defeats and then slowly figuring out what was in the billing you'd see twitter from like policy reporters. like, while the more I dig into this, the more impact full indicative gets no shit like let let's, let's, let's take a win policy. Reporters and activist who been working on these issues for years, like the people, Rosa Delauro and a lot of the organized and activists have been fighting for a child allowance and in Cory. Booker and Michael Bennett. Sherrod Brown they've been pushing this for years, and they cannot get people to really pay attention to trying to fight child poverty with a child allowance and like what you talked to any of those people who been fighting for this for a long time pretty fuckin excited at Heathrow. Let's talk about what's next for buying and the Democrats in terms of their legislative agenda, they have one more fifty one vote reconciliation process. They can use to spend money on infrastructure, climate and other economic budgetary priorities like we saw the american rescue plan. As long as that-
buster remains in place. Everything else has to be passed to the regular sixty four process, probably a path to citizenship. Protections for dreamers pay This reform the equality ACT and each hour, one, which is the voting rights and democracy. Legislation, known as the for the people ACT, Prime. Mr Mansion did around of interviews this weekend where he made some newsworthy comments on both reconciliation and the filibuster. Here's what you told my gallon of access. Reconciliation is not a team sport and Estonia, healthy situation and something we should not repeat after you swallow the covered relief plan. President Biden has now have a second package laughing, but a second package, maybe even bigger, probably focused on infrastructure, and energy climate, one, that's all good, but I'm not gonna. Do it through reconciliation, My Democrats bought on my fellow Democrats, have bought on that. You have no republican friends it'll work in a reasonable manner, subscribed to that would you support, my kind of filibustering reform
the only thing I have even considered our thought is basically some through that history, how it used to be Talk there should be paid to filibuster, and Ukraine, and what are they talking? Basically you know you read the phone book I wanna do whatever, but make sure you a little bit of pay. Just don't say we're not going to go on about what what other paying, what you have the pain. Basically, as is the fellow buzzer talking filibuster, they talk before some. The rules could be changeable bit, but not to the point where just a simple majority rules. Nobody wants to make the filibuster more painful. What they look like in practice and wise that potentially big news was wanting to know that. I think a lot of people didn't fully understand how codified and recognise the filibuster is right now, which is nobody has to show up nobody ass, he sat up and talk one staffer in Aceh, it offers just has to respond to an email saying that they are not
owing to go along with the unanimous consent righteous like an email response right now that causes this explosion in the number of filibusters we use talk about added their sort of like shadow filibusters cause. No one ever actually shows up and does the filibuster its located on the assumption that there will be available. And what mansion is saying here angers, let's actually forced me to filibuster, let some show up nor morons It is written in the Atlantic. A number of different ways at this can play out. Some of it is you're saying you have to show up and talk. Some of it is a changing from you need sixty people to say. Yes, there s postponing forty people to say no, so if they want to have an ongoing Philip, you're, forty, but to literally being the body, but all this is about getting rid of the assumption that every single piece of legislation requires sixty boats, so so what it so. Basically mansion is saying he is open to those kinds of reforms, and it's interesting right because people have been shouting question that dimension about the filibuster for months now he seems to be quite frustrated with it anything. Will you about civilian foster way about filibustering joys? I'd know. Never how dare you stop asking when you consider it, but as we ve many times follow fall.
What Party of America that that left the room open for some kind of reforms that maybe leave some version the filibustering place but gets what he wants, which is bipartisan debate by partisan in Knit minority involvement in the decisions of the legislature without giving Mitch Mcconnell of tell on every single bill in perpetuity there Tom it. When I first heard about this as like. Well, you see a grandstand or like asshole, like TED crews, are Josh Holly Vienna Gal sit and talk on the floor for a couple days, but if they the talk forever right or vague, or if they need forty people, forty republican senators, basically to maintain a filibustering to be on the floor constantly that's
How long can you keep that up like? Maybe that is and that you know that sentence pretty good to me yeah I lay I will live more questions and answers about how this process would work. I could you just like stack one filibuster speech after another, so that it to factor last forever. I know that these gazers can pull that off. But it's a question I asked is dismantling think we need a bunch, a republican votes on a buster reform package before the support it I dont know. I know the mansion backed a virgin. filibuster reform bill like this back in twenty eleven they didn't pass. I mean like the talking filibuster is better. We should note that the context that It was used extensively to filibuster civil rights legislation, but there's a dark history there that may get repeated with HIV Once was, and is a great option, but to hell of a lot better than just things as they are now, where, basically, we could do to bills in Joe Biden
this term and they both be reconciliation yeah. I think what the talking Oh buster does. Is the long if, when the public comes to need. A Senate just be added. Stand still and just speeches against voting rights and civil rights for like a week get a time two weeks at a time. It just keeps going and go and ongoing. Eventually. Is there more pressure than there would be with the automatic sixty vote margin to slightly, sit down and start compromising right. So maybe age, our one you get like you know, mansion sick of this filibuster, that's gone forever. Cinema is you say: ok, maybe they're publicans dont want publicly funded election. but maybe they'll, do automatic butter internally. I like it, it yes gives us the possibility for more compromise than we had with as love it was point I just an email that says yeah my senators no and we're gonna have to get sixty, no matter what it's it's something and we just had nothing. So this it's it's good news for that. I also They too, like you, know,
on this question about him requiring bipartisan votes on things like infrastructure these maximum hypotheticals posed to Joe Mansion- he is very, he is Hell bent on demonstrating that he, when he says, he's bipartisan, he means it. but he still leaves the door open and I think sometimes that is lost. So he said I am not and you get on a bill that cuts them out completely before we stop trying trying yet for wider trying read. I got back to his own soul so like he is, I think that one of the reasons sometimes mansions positions on These things have been presented as like fait accompli or like kind of immovable is I think he actually wants him to see my way he wants When someone that's like, will you ever do this without being by partisan he's like hell? No, how dare you then asked me, but when he actually comes down to the governing the legislating he is leaving the door open. I look like
I'm not saying dimension is where we want to be on a whole host of policies across the board, but I think we just need to be like really specific about where, where what actually been saying because someday Joe Mansion being Anti something kind of slows everything illegal. Why bother? We want a mansion, but, like gadabout, we should think of him always being edible which back to our question about you- know the future bi partisanship, even though there are no republican votes this time Biden is going to continue the dance of. I want to try to get Republicans to work with me. If not for the american people or because he believes it to be true for Joe Mansion for the audience of Joe Mansion, as European Cinema like no cause as he should as he should emulate today, saw. He was asked about binds position the filibuster and she said again. You know you prefer the rules not to be changed. I wish you know he with his position now Joe mentions idea of the tongue filibusters interesting, but like maybe Joe Binding, want to get out in front of the prayed. Maybe he wants this will have mentioned in this
I go. Do this themselves, that's fine! I think there's going to be. I do think, there's going to be a moment where Joe is going to have to show leadership on this and push potato. On each hour one? It may be that Maybe the moment is not here yet, but he's gonna have to get their at some point. But there's also like one thing that has been very useful about Joe Biden: moderate aesthetic a lot of times what it really boils down to? We were incredibly frustrated by him in the primary saying that Republicans going to have an epiphany and all that what are the advantages of that is when he does come to a progressive position. It more moderate it becomes the and of consensus position and its really valuable. So, ultimately, when he does come out for some kind, Philip must reform. You know that it will be a consensus position that some other Democrats that are reluctant can can hopefully, hopefully get behind. I do this. reconciliation bill. If it ends up being reconciliation, bills can be pretty wild. It's going to be an infrastructure climb bill, maybe up to this, they floated
four trillion dollars and now Joe imagine saying he wanted paid for by raising taxes. He want some peaceful papers to Georgia like Europe. Has a Ford trillion dollar bill, raising taxes and you're gonna. Do it getting ten republican centres on board. Well, I don't know what your mentioned smoking. That's! Why he's annoying rake as you what's a two to four trillion dollar bill by one vote for it, if republicans aren't included, but he's it has to be fully paid for, but he wants to increase the corporate tax rates and then repeal the from tax. You. You know that that that scenario does not exist so to float like that, in an interview to create a dynamic that is impossible to achieve is its baffling to me, I mean again yet will be like He, like, maybe just like to make a scene soda. he can proved evokes back home that he do you know not loved by either party. They get things on and zone man like I'm sure that plays well, but its very fucking for us
waiting for those of us who are trying to Parson statements and create something, is logically coherent because it does not exist there. How you tell me how fucking Are you talk about Joe Mansion who we love his deserve? These are their prime minister? Look, I think the most generous interpretation of that is the Jamaican was speaking to republican centres directly, and this is basically saying this: is our opening offer? trillion dollars bunch issue We want to raise taxes to pay for it. We want to work with you guys. What do you got right and then will soon, and then You know they won't come back and say absolutely not some of them well, most of them well, but like his buddies, who are Susan, Collins and Mister Mc Caskey in an Mitt Romney what back it's ok. I could do some pay for some taxes. I cut down to three trillion. two trillion alike, so maybe this just sort of the opening negotiations here, but
I do think for our purposes like Democrats and activists and organizers need to start pushing our priorities for this next reconciliation bill for the build back better bill. Whatever it's going to be called, and it can be anything from, I think it's going to climb it's going to be huge in this bill. This is where we're going to get climate done, we're going to get done. There's a lot more there's making the childcare permanent could happen in this bill as well. Some some of these measures most of the measures in the Covid nineteen, the american Rescue plan only last a year, so making them permanent. The next bill is going to be really important to so. If there's a there's a lot we should like, we should fight to get down there. I do think on Hr1. The key now is going to be really put pressure on your representatives. Were there democrat or Republican in the House and the Senate special in the sentence going to go there now to pass this bill to make sure we
you have a big fight over this. Are you got about market outcome? Slash for the people to learn more about each hour, wanted to make help make sure it gets pass. This is gonna, be hopefully the next big fight and the real test of Joe mentions flirtation with filibuster reform, to flirt it's an open flirtatious. Since it can pretty Prettier pretty flirtatious, pretty young. I think they may. I will will you say enough on anymore now more than ever, less They spend I'm good on one year We have a year anniversary boys, my God, one. Well, when we come back you'll, get to hear love it be funny with region stay, delegate, Danica row pots. America is brought in by a zipper gruner and the next
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president Bind was inaugurated January's made federal protection for Trans Americans are priorities lifted. The ban on Trans service members, for example, at the same time, are also seeing a record number of anti trans bills at state level. Where do you see the fight for Trans rights? Right now What are some of these aggressive local efforts? to discriminate. I what do they mean to trans people in which people do right now and in response sure. So I was allowed to take the second half of the first in and when I come back to us in the first half, so the first thing about what should people doing response is a watch people. Who will actually take care of their constituents who want single out and stigmatized the very people. Their alleged deserve. Look what happened? here in Virginia now that you ve done that now that we have our democratic majorities, that we work so hard to elect first you're coming within it, here in twenty seventeen and actually winning the majorities and twenty nineteen we
passed so many pro alphabet, Eu Bills and the Virginia General Assembly last four years it's been I can give Bothy Irishman. It's just me I've done things like the Virginia values that was actually put some real teeth. Ensure enforcement mechanisms is be ten. Forty knife going or being what answer orientation general data more than seventy difference, sections of non discrimination code. We pass my bills to prohibit discrimination against transport. Health insurance was actually happens, mean point. Fourteen we passed my bills to I'll be in the game. Scrap and defense. This year is Bi two thousand one hundred and thirty. Two They go last year to allow for localities to include such rotation generate dandy. In their nuns from nation or necessary, local level? We passed my resolution each day, eighty five to recognise a transgender Dave remembrance on November. Twenty is very urgent and Virginia. We have not Mary driver's licence is now as well. We
are, you know, actually have we passed one bill from? Don't you just clarify who is now running for governor of it says that if your gun, to have a dress code under public school that has to be gender neutral. So you're, not just picking on me. I gained Trans kids and we have just there, so many more if you belong it, I just couldn t move not unhappy diamond joint. What I'm enjoying the alarm about the other so like what we are really trying to get at here is like we ve been doing. HIV modernization this year, for example, who else would he Q Advisory taskforce and actually responds directly the governor, for example, we ve had they also deal with your people, who were on discharge? if anything other than honourable under don't don't tell so that illegal, LISA Virginia while respecting their service and The list goes on, and so you know it's like o o and I should also mention- we also has to bill for a model- trans policies for how to mainly trade, transgressing schools, which is something
These are the heart of a lot of you fights going on right now and also here's another thing. One of the fight for now is about you, don't like me, and sports and stuff like that. Virginia. We took carried the six years ago. you actually look at the model policy, the Virginia High School they use this year in Virginia. It think non issue, oh there's an entire process that trains out things go through said near its basic urban. like a heavy you'll, inherently competitive advantage over other people. At the same time, you look at the policy that we ve done. You look at new that there's a few trans does not allow for just a few who should play sports in first place here, because most has failed to stigma. You could do it and you will get where we are insists like what's the point of attacking children, their heads, they want to play sports. I want this mean that Europe is the only points my say like all, then this is gonna play you know the sunset gender girl from getting
university scholarship order first off this system of girls who are competing for sea levels are incredible Athens to begin with. I covered them as a newspaper report covering high school sports for ten and a half years like that. I'm telling you what We are looking at a lotta kids, who are extremely dislike about. Another thing is that when you have Trans kids, on bureaucracy were on in Turkey to begin with, and within nine months. There testosterone levels either that at that level or even below that of Sis girls, they're estrogen levels, that thing you seem range they dont have their competitive advantage and, in fact, with fury blockers plus answer in Turkey, you're even new, basically allowing their growth Being consistent with that assist roles in the first place, asked me how I know, as a transport will be happy to tell you also Europe read their focusing on Trans youth and specifically around sport. Sixty five of the seventy three Anti Trans bills introduce at the state level two year, specifically targeted Trans youth
many around sports. It seems like gay people were stigmatized for a long time. If we let gay people, marriage societies, gonna fall, they lost that issue. They lost their policy, they lost at issue on the politics. the talk about the fact that gay people getting married was gonna destroy society. Society continues, at this sort of abandoned that now it seems like they wanna stigmatize trans people. They want to turn trans people into what gay people were in the early. You thousands job. Haven't you been reading my email hacking into my phone, as I ve been talking to other people or other reporters, because I've literally said this verbatim we're relegating the fights from seventeen years ago only now with the new victim. Only so instead of attacking gate, gay people for wanting to get married. Now, there's hacking, Trans kids, because there is software target to attack it So it's it's obviously like. If you look at the that fight over rights, what you see is over time they will not when they will not succeed. But what was terrible at the time right as two thousand for a bunch of
discriminatory anti gay amendments make it onto the books and even as the public moves further for the way we have to go back and chip away at those laws. This is even more pernicious because this is attacking children. How do we, sure that even as we see the public moving on Trans issues, learning more coming to understand, coming to be more compassionate. Coming too, to see its people as people and not as a scapegoat that dont end up with a bunch of these horrible laws on the book that will punish stigmatize his harm kids, pivotal moment when they're. Just when when there, beginning of their life when when there, when they are at their most vulnerable, so there's a few things. The first part of this is that one of the most important parts of winning federal elections is having judges rate and being out of playing, confirmed, judges and, that's gonna, be one of the horrible legacies were last four years is having while people with anti overtaking records being put on the bench and others. in time. We know
that you know if President Biden has room for nominees or his impact. If you we know that no there's gonna be their federal circuit court. Judges in the packages is who is getting old mobile looking at Here is basically understanding that when you would tell me when you look at federal Romans formation was in general as it is that fair, rule judges who, actually understanding with the law means and that the idea that discrimination on account of sex is inherently Are you really going you just coming? Accounts exploitation are generally, it is inherently shoe discriminate on account of it as we even saw in the fastest growing last you're right in Bali, not to mention that I have the equal rights in an attachment order, but that's a whole different story for another day. If you, if you get to that level of politics, see here. What you're gonna find is that The federal government has to be our backstop against a lot of these really were regressive and repressive. You know bill centre.
Being energies to past, because if you look at what happened in Idaho, when they were seventeen Chaucer Trans gets, it took throw course actually have to block them in the first place, and so that the first component of it, the second component of it is you, have to win elections everywhere at the minute people level at the county level, at your state level you have to compete. You after win, then the reason for that is what we are seeing. Where are these trans bill? Oh geez? Ty Trans bills, most likely to succeed in Gothenburg. looking trifecta states where ever elegant governor republican young children Obviously republican majority in both chambers of their I'm seat, legislate unless you're Nebraska Givens unilateral quickly tribute reactors. One you're, Colonelcy legislature in the United States, by his arm when I went on just kind of positive here. Is that
one or two windows state elections. That means that you have to be especially those very few people vulnerable enough to be visible in the first place, to put yourself out their knowing full well that there are repercussions that come with putting yourself out there, as it also believe you first I did it and twenty seventeen and I'm not going to be the person who's gonna tell you that my experience is going to be What you were going to experience, neither better nor worse it just is just exist and You know what I want. I took on a twenty six year come and who had no weapons. Thirteen times you had been office since I was seven years old and had accumulated most anti overtake you voting record and not as voting record, but actually the bills he was introducing indeed herself, if not the entire country. Amongst the legislators, colluding he was the author of the states to doesn't six anti marriage called Remember the Marshal Newman Amendment which, by the way we just take the first step, repealing replacing with an actual affirmative right to marry this year. So we have to pass
more time next year in Virginia in the General Assembly and then I'll go to the voters in a referendum on the following four, but I knew to say and to emphasise that, in order once seen elections you have to wonder local. Since two, because that's how you build your formatting? That's how you learn, how to organise that's, how you actually put people out there in the first place. Who are? able to collect data, to put it into, and she kids, but Anne Van you don't really understand how to run a campaign. You have to have that organization, have done. The infrastructure there willing to help that's what we need and there are groups like immersion ok that trains, democratic women to run for office I went through emerging, is Abou Camp? There's the elder teach you victory Institute, they train I'll teach you carry on for office. I went through the betrayed statutes. Twenty sixteen training that November now, then, sometimes your hunger local organizations are trained as well. Wait for me, the Democratic House caucus near their training, be twenty fifteen and twenty four,
he don't hurt nominees of the seed, nearly one day, training which was super cool, but there's other organizations to Emily's list the progressive Change Campaign committee, one for something all of these are groups that the National democratic candidate training our group as well. All of these groups here exist in order to help candidates get on the ballot who actually share our values in the first place, and if your values are based on an inclusive any on of our turning down each other, then these are people who can help you. One point five about and to learn how to one elections and again May well says a few times. A selection asked me how I know how you, how do you know I know because I went through my one and now again and again literally at noon today, just an hour. Forty five minutes turning my petition to call. I can develop this year so I'll be. on balance, our second, yet so
as for making this, as as workers are fighting these fight at state level, any one you do see that as the public is shifting the ant trends movement is kind of narrowing their focus and trying to end its getting tighter and tighter. And now it saying basically like we're just being pro girls sports that they were not anti trans. Where pro girl and we're trying to briefly at the time out by non then for a second address. This little began. Let's do it. Ok, so the same People who, under fun girls works the same people who will promote them, While programming think kids, you know the girls were. while performing arts or put anything else it actually. Girls, you'll new in general, participated in the first place. There are the ones we're trying to tell us the there d be the Saviour of Girls ports there, just there so full of it. It's just their rhetoric. Actually, does not match up and by the way, the same people who were opposed to equal rights. Amendment now turn
make themselves out to be the other, save your girl sports. Oh please! No! No! That's! That's! Just now buggy cute like a little bit about how some of these anti Trans measures would actually hurt. Girl sports they make it make it harder for girls to participate in sport. my God, was his leg. It was just like the tolerable amendment right that came up to you on the substitute version of thinking of first through the cook belief, Bela, just pass straight: the disgust of Senate If, when you actually read the amendment- and I did it because I'm a legislators, why do United State let, while already through legislation I actually have to so I did it, in writing this they said TAT, Basically, this based on Wanna, hear genetic components about your reproductive system. There is nothing about birth certificates or anything. They went in essence center photographer bill was doing. Was he was We too have to subject, every sis, ginger and transgender girl alike,
in vases invasive an attack. Local searches of their reproductive systems, presumably by adults, to see if they female enough. I care where you fall on this issue. If you look at this nigger, I dont want some adult prodding my child, that's terrible! That is absurd. the blame mortifying there is yours, then use at least some people say all they can to her cheeks far for dna and stuff the here's where it gets interesting. What happens when your strength, young, with intersects girls? What happens if you start dealing with girls who are just built a little bit Jennifer? only right, even if their sister and when you actually look at how short sighted mean spirited and ill thought out, this amendment was the consequences of, they were doing is horrific below with the even knew they were doing to start with, and the second part of this is the asking themselves, and they were asking the states to file
other exist, all existing federal law, and so how are they The postal Europe therefore restrict money from you know from states and scope that are doing it right more than a dozen states right now already have Trans inclusive policies. So let us who are doing this right. Let us continue doing what's working. And other states to be emulated. What we're doing Severin Crossing into discrimination. Here we go. You means her. Want to come back to these serve two points he made. One is around this It does seem like what they're really saying is: let's target any girls, any any adults. subjectively side doesn't look. My definition of feminine right. That seems to be like one piece of this, and you also said that basically trying to protect friends, kids by making sure that there were these arm now gendered school uniforms, and it seems to me that, like we're in this right now, which is for Trans people.
but also at the beginning of a larger fight, about gender itself in the science of gender in our culture. that seems to scare conservatives. They seem to be genuinely scared about it. We spend they're not now now they're not now, look in the same way they were really scared about marriage equality right now. It's up well, I want people to be scared about it. I should say you want like that. Those politicians who were talking about for doing this their lot for money and they are looking for votes. Do you think they would give a damn about this? If there you didn't think that it can be good for their fundraising rules could be a good idea, twitter moment for them or get them on Fox NEWS or whatever right wing media publication of your choice. Hell no, of course, not they're trying to be as inflammatory as possible because they think it's in their own self interest. This is how they work
they don't really care if it means that they have to target their own constituents and hurt children exploit children for a political game. Don't do it if it thinks that it's gonna help their careers at sea we're looking at this is the same play, but that they used a crow Rove used during the Bush. Illustration when they were engineering, all the anti marriage He merger calling them, and there were upon the bowels Joseph four, five and six right, So when you look at the history of this, we have seen this play, but before the issue is that chances are a lot more people know gay people or bisexual people in their wives. So then they know tradespeople in their lives because we make us a significantly smaller percentage of population were zero point. Sixty one point: two percent of population ending on numbers and so very for me on the first out transfers and someone knows they have met. No, no, they re just don't know they out by.
When I met the doors, though you know, what's that you and the funny thing is I'm next thousands of doors and my campaigns? Are you not heard more thirty little town halls, I've been a very present. Do you know I can count on one hand how many times people motion train stopped at the doors any discriminatory like a negative way. I really can when people even the few cadence of old. You taught me about transparency, Oh, my kids transfers person, I know- is trans. Our colleague Neil they are that they themselves are they wanna tell me a story right and that's fine, but what it People were knocking on doors. You know I only Christy Sonia Inorganic. If only for changing it was more regressive towards tradespeople where we finally going to fit shrapnel That's, not how I got another number upon honest Ebay. What do they want parties? you take care of their community and by the way, my plan for fixed or twenty years from the come off transportation.
Hopefully we can get money black later this year. Look, I remember, I remember that your campaign was on was on fixing roads, but to do it what I was trying to get at those is I know that as a gay person like just you sent, much time fighting political fight about. Why you're not bad that so Little time is spent on. Why being gay is not just where tolerating, but is wonderful and country. It's in it and brings like wonderful things to our culture and our society, and so you know, as we think this transfer fight and the fight for trans people. Trans lives like when you think about a trap this kid right now watching these fights unfold. How do you communicate to them? Not just that were fighting to prove there's no such threat theirs. wrong with being trans, but that trans people are wonderful I'm good and contribute something important too world worth protecting junk win, On the day, I want my first campaign November, seventh, twenty seventeen
I got to the prince my kind democratic committees, victory party pre, like that, like I've been how about a different report, and a similar girl. The car there was a ten year old France groaning Clare, whose in the parking lot now had known her throughout the whole camping, gone back to that January, and it was now November. Seventh. The first thing that I did I picked up clear. I looked her didn't ya and I told her honey you can be whatever you want to be. You can be president because we just want this campaign and you just to make it happen. She has just as much right, chase her dreams and should be who she is and should be that, while on four words sacred sales as any other person and you know, I have a neon sticker that keep outside my heart shape and I keep outside of my my door in Richmond, where it says my trans is beautiful, and this is
those things were. As Democrats, we tend to say no matter what you look like, where you come from how you or should that be. Do you love, or in this case, who you I want to be that you should be able to succeed because of who you are not despite it not for a discriminatory politicians till you're supposed to be. You beat you, than any one else ever could cause you're the only person who can be you and if you are one of these states where you're having these fights and you have to stand and fight for your rights, and this we had to do that. In Virginia, I drove down to the need for change, our assembly four times. Twenty. Sixteen to fight nine anti overtake you bills, I spent a sixteen months eating, spearheading an effort along with our now former schoolwork human rights lawyers, to get the principal county scoreboard to include such rotation generate energy in their launch information policy. Sixteen losing fight that we want or five to three about, and you know what happened. The three people who voted again
did ended up losing their next elections, even though at the time like so many hundreds of people were thing, though worse things, you could imagine on camera into a microphone saying that gain train kids were abominations ordeal bogged down by God, and then one of the actually elected republican officials one county supervisors will applauding them for doing it. I noticed I sat right behind her watcher. Do it ends this in person who then by the way, did named me from my step daughter so like ours, rural class act by you know we had to win a lot of policy fights and we had to really one life elections here and works at a secure that safety and protection and self people in other states. What the model that we sent in Virginia two thousand and sixteen two thousand and seventeen two thousand and eighteen, two thousand and nineteen follow that model. Here's the thing. I can't just tell someone
to get up and leave their state and come to Virginia because they might not have the money. They've been the means, I'm going to have the ability to come here and if they leave, then who's left to fight right and at the same time, if it does get to be too much if you've put your heart in it. If it's too dangerous of your family is being threatened whatever it is, please know that the people of the city as is park in the prince. One canning portions of Haymarket gains will now says that I represent. We will welcome you here because of who you are and hearing Virginia, especially here know everything. As you know, we celebrate you so please by all means. Anyone who likes comes first regardless or because of your identifiers. Welcome, were glad you're here and I just want to hike in Serbia Dining room. Thank you much thank you are supposed to plug my own, a socialist and stuff. So if you do the idea tat I can do, I can just do ya. Tell maggot whatever you need everyone? Yes,
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