Donald Trump’s 40-minute interview with Fox News’s Chris Wallace is perfection, the Administration is sending unidentified paramilitary troops to crack down on protesters in Portland, and America says goodbye to Congressman John Lewis and CT Vivian, two giants of the Civil Rights Movement. Then Voto Latino’s María Teresa Kumar talks to Tommy about organizing the Latino community ahead of November.
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Let's get to the news, the bad stretch of calling for the trumpet
and continued into this weekend.
Abc obviously in the Washington Post, finding that the president is losing to Biden among registered voters by fifty five to forty percent. Fox news has Trump trailing forty nine to forty one percent. Both polls show that voters are most concerned about trumps handling of the pandemic and race relations
as well as his dishonesty and incompetence, and so the White House thought, let's disabuse people of these silly views by having the president said down with Chris Wallace, a Fox news for forty minute interview that aired on Sunday morning,
here's. What happened next I'll be right. Eventually they re actually, yet I said it's going to disappear. I'll say it again, but does not go into this in a united front and I'll be right. I don't think so bright
I think so you know why doesn't it reached because I've been right
probably more than anybody else. Everybody was saying: don't wear mess, while I'm sudden everybody's got to wear a mess and, as you know, mess cause problems to with that being said
believer. Masks, I think, masks a good, but I live.
We up to the governors. Many of the governors are changing their more mask into they like the concept of,
asked. But some of em don't agree is the Confederate flag offensive. It depends,
who you talk about when you're talking about when people proudly had their confederate flags are not talking about racism. They love their flag, represents the south. They, like the South,
we're right now, like the south, I say its freedom of of many.
Things now they want to change of. Fourteen
me to Colombia.
Discovered America. You know we grew up. You grew up. We all did that's what we learned, how they want to make it to one thousand six hundred and nineteen project. What did that come from what does it represent
I don't even know slaver, that's what they're saying, but they don't even know Joe doesn't know, is alive. Ok,
He doesn't always alive. Let's take a test. Let's take it s right.
Let's go down Joe and I will take a test. Let him take the same test that I took, incidentally,
It took the test to when I heard that you passed it had is not in the hot, with its not the hardest task now, but unless a picture in Latin, it's an Elinor die again seek that's all misrepresentations, that's what it was on the way I saw a misrepresentation because, yes, the first few questions are easy.
You couldn't even edge of the last five questions about youth when they get very hard, the last, but one of them was come back from a hundred by seven, and let me tell you
you couldn't answer you couldn't answer gets across many of the questions. I get you the test, I'd like to give it. I guarantee you that Joe could not answer. Those questions
That is first person's easier. You take a triangle, you put it to a triangle shaped all, but the next thing you know you got a square you gotta Square, but
Anything is that it's hard to here is after Christmas. Us is one of the core
this cow backward
from a hundred by seven and then trumps our
arguments. In the background you just here while I go ninety three spots and an answer so
I wanted to get more in the part about the pandemic, and racism specifically prefers. I just want to get your overall
actions to the interview itself for me,
it, was a reminder that, like trumps, pathological dishonesty is
rarely challenge with sustain questioning from a real journalist and when it does happen, you really falls apart, but Tommy. What? What did you say?
what was your reaction? May I think that we just saw the danger of living in your own bubble, of like a right wing reality and of surrounding yourselves with with staffers who are
offering, I think, the political equivalent of palliative care right there not really trying to treat the problem here in that zone. Can the pain going in?
I'm sure he's Polly read somewhere. I was told by a staff that bind wants to defend the police, but it is
a true when he couldn't prove
and it was a humiliating moment. I think that
I bet you do like he and Jared walk around the West wing with little coterie of advisers, and they talk about how unfair the corona virus coverages cause they're just doing or testing but like when you say that out loud you sound deranged. If you have only
friends and advisers. Your response to police brutality to say, yeah, well why people are getting shot to
not realise how tone deaf
broken it is, and then, of course he has his staff
commissioning their own polls that show him winning everywhere, because
You know that makes them feel better. So
I am not saying this to be cocky or argue that the election is a done deal like far from it it just. You can tell her divorces from reality, and so
The other take way for me was good for
MRS Wallace for pushing back
the interview itself was surprising, not just because normally Fox NEWS is propaganda. This is also
tougher interview, then CBS Catherine Hairs did last week or David in Europe.
Maybe see did recently. I dont get it
every interview isn't like this: it's very easy to backtrack. Him he's predictability,
has the same lies. The claims are
are demonstrably false and he makes news when challenge so good for Chris Get for Fox for poking a whole in this bubble. I wish everybody would would do it.
What would you think? I watch the whole thing and I know I feel like I saw that you guys were watching it in real time, because your political cutters, but
I waited till it was on Youtube so there.
Could watch it at one point: seven: five speed because he's taken enough of my time
I've gotta go now, but so I would say all day. I too find those clothes I want should again. Last night there is dear, does now you're, just a man rural year does occur as well. As of am you view that you follow Chris walls around over the summer.
For all of us live events, but no, I would say all that's right. I would say to you that I think I want
and I tried to step out because I already seen so much reaction about how crazy it was actually found that, like from
Most of the interview is sort of like normal trump deception. The the part about the cognitive test does take it into a new level of almost art, but the Power
but I do think is was I think chilling to me was obviously I think three parts, one where it talks about that. The Supreme Court's decision on Doc,
is going to give him the ability to do a bunch of things with executive action like that is worrying. I want to get up. Those are what is that they're about healthcare, the about immigration? What are those going to look like to? Obviously, I think people
taking his usual, we'll see, will see to make a new cycle about what will happen if he loses a naughty
happening results, but obviously that's a terrifying prospect. I think a lot of people get themselves
up about it, but it is worth noting.
Many are saying now that he is not one, but he is not coming.
To accepting the result. Obviously, and then the third thing is that final
question. Where he's as me,
what do you want your legacy to be, or what are you going to say about your presidency in hindsight needed any says I was treated very
fairly? That's like the biggest and most important thing that
can take away from it and as we are about to enter a period of time in which is going to be doing these corona virus
breathings again at a moment of incredible crisis. No matter what we do. It is clear that over the next few months, he is going to waste this period of time, fail to take the current of our seriously and put the country in jeopardy.
It's extremely sad. It's extremely enraging and those were my those were my points
yes. I thought I thought the same things you want it that the answer to the last question sums up the whole presidency and Donald Trump and its everything you need to know about him, which is everything is about himself and how he's treated- and
he can't even muster some bullshit.
A second term agenda or the american people or anything. It also reminded me that, like he is incapable, of course, correction right. This is a point in a campaign where, if you're down by this much against european
you'd. Some. You try some new things. You try some new messages. You try some new strategies, like none of that's gonna, have
he may win, but he will either
win or lose on this message. Being this Donald Trump like
they announced today that he's gonna bring back the briefings like what do. We think that there can be a new trumpet? The briefings these guys are taking the pandemic seriously is gonna start work. Now none of that's gonna happen.
You going to do that and like maybe. This is enough to have him win and it's not it's. It's not so far according to the polls, but this is who you this is what we're going to get it till
while the start of unity by challenging Trump on his pandemic response, and this is what happens when a factual trump on his live at the United States has the lowest covered mortality rate in the world, but when you jump
but mortality challenge
think it's the opposite. I think we have one of the lowest mortality rate for a week. While we wait any type, although he had nine hundred deaths,
good day. We will take this week ready
you can check it out, he's get me the mortality rate Kelly's right. Here I heard we have one of the lowest, maybe the lowest mortality rate anywhere in the world. You have the numbers place because I heard where the best mortality rate
number number one low modality. I hope you show this because it shows would think this is ok. I don't think I'm fact knows so. It's
it's really not me his message about the pandemic throughout the whole interview and in general, is everything fine? It's not that bad media's make it out to be more than it is like. Don't worry about it, but it's it's not just a message. You know he also threatened in this interview to block funding for schools that don't open Washington Post reports that the administration is starting to block funding for testing contact, tracing and the city c. In the next plane, democratically fell like I can't imagine, Republicans who are up for re election.
Actually going along with us insanity, but tell me what you think I mean on the schools point. The way this navigator poll shows that eighteen, thirty, two percent of the country approves of his handling of the school reopening question. Instead,
Eighty seven percent of the country once Trump to stay out of it and to let local communities make these decisions, so
That position is already incredibly unpopular and then he's confronted with the fact that the eight to ten per.
The funding that comes from the federal government is for poor kids, kids, who debt
special needs I mean Chris, was really, I think, spells out just how cruel this little ineffective punitive approach he's taking is
First place, and so you know
Find a lot of issues with like sixty seven percent agreement period in this country. I do suspect that a blocking funding for
testing for the corona virus in for the CDC might beat it. My
like ninety percent in this environmental get nowhere in this interview. Do you see a strategy there's a lot of like buck passing he talks
He says it's one point like they got a lot wrong. Some of them said the virus would go away in the summer you're the one who was pushing that line body like that was your big thing and so on
None of this is like accountability or owning the problem, which is why I like you. I am not at all worried about the taskforce breathing starting again, I mean
yeah it's a mess, there's no path order,
what you think I did see in the New York Times, there was the month
story last night about how Republicans are starting to break from trauma
or was it- is that this is violate the time is that time of year again get look, look
This is a good example of arguing
Donald Trump makes you dumb or even when you're winning like are we the,
where are we in the mortality charts? None of that is about a process of fixing it
None of that is about addressing a disease that is purely about Donald trumps ratings right, that's purely about how is he
doing compared to other countries where we are in that charge. Bickering with Chris Wallace,
over where we are in terms of like our line compared to other countries is irrelevant, are real president. That person of any kind of substance or character would say in that moment look. The bottom line is critical
people over the number is the most important thing is we have to do everything in our power to protect our people. Get this virus under control, so we can open up our schools right. There's a very clear natural ma.
And for leadership that never comes obviously
we ve done is a million times. So
yeah and then, as Republicans breaking with Trump
a little bit late in other, been in a report that he has done.
Got to labour day if he doesn't get this fixed up by Labour data, really really you're, gonna, you're, gonna
break within NATO on the calendar where the Finnish, like three,
three years and nine months into the administration. We draw the line. Now it's about your own political fortunes are trying to save what
active. Your sentiments are yet the conventional wisdom of no impact pays attention to politics till after Labour day seems a touch off when everyone's locked inside their homes and can do nothing but watch the news in horror, but go on pundits year were true.
The other notable section of the interview was about police brutality and racism. First, while this challenge
up on his lie that Joe Biden supports to funding the police. Let's take a lesson. Liberal Democrats have been running cities in this country for decades poorly. Why is it so bad
right now they run a poorly. It was always bad, but now it's gotten totally out of control and its really because they wanted to fund the police and biting wants to fund the public authority does not look
shine, a shorter with Bernie
Anders enemies. I knew nothing about the funding, all really it's abolish. It says: let's go awry
How do you get me that Europe lingering let's go? Let's go
Where'd you learn or letters on this wording. Where are they
yet charter from the facts are that what are they
what are they savings at short notice?
One of the charter of the stats
No now he sang charter he's now as these charges, because he doesn't even either you know is vocabulary is down to, like five hundred words enshrine a big up that the plans right just want to say that the charter, it's because it's in agreement with Bernie he's. Basically it's a charter to hand over the government Antigua, that's what right building tools around that
I say that was so
support over the weekend. That Trump central message by now is that he'll allow the radical left to usher in a new dystopia
seems like there's a whole in that strategy. But what do you think is that is that a small measures to Joe going to usher in the
new disturb here there is a real Israel, logical problem in all these arguments, which is all of their all of their ads or like if Joe Biden becomes president what's happening now is gonna happen. Certainly
What your president, your president, now do
Joe Joe Biden. These been in Washington forever and he's gonna he's going to usher in you, gotta, be with the radical left. It's like Joe Biden. More of the same radical change like our. Unlike the champion,
one of the first days I worked for Brok about I'm, a robber gives telling me like the first rule of Spain as it has to be believable end
maybe a hundred million dollars worth of attack, adds, could prove me wrong, but it seems
like their other messages, that Joe Biden has senile and cant do the jobs. I think what they expect.
As to believe that Joe Biden is so senile that door
the day, I see, will sneak into the oval office and start writing executive orders and that's how
things are going to go south. I'd like it is. The whole thing is ridiculous. I don't it's just
I'm so burned by twenty succeed in scared of making predictions. But this doesn't seem like it's working in any way, shape or form the
the squad is gonna weakened, Bernie, John, that's the best
He walked around by the eight Ghana decide. What are you trying to drive turn out?
in another exchange. The president said that he doesn't care if the military and a bipartisan majority in Congress want to rename bases that are named after confederate leaders, and then he said this.
What the military says I do I'm supposed.
Make. The decision Fort Bragg is a big deal.
One two world wars, nobody even those general break, we
two world wars: go
community where Fort Bragg is in a great state. I love that state got up.
But the community shake. How do you like the idea of renaming Fort Bragg and
then, what are we gonna name? It
after the reverend. Now Shopton, what are you gonna? Do?
Nicholas, tell me what you gonna name: it subtle, subtle, subtle stuff. I mean
that common about our Shopton really tells you everything you need to know about Donald Trump and his particular brand of racism, which is like a very
you know living through the eighties senior posts, Europe pays a New York pose New York Post, it's the would have the New York posed in nineteen. Eighty four that is, that is who is president the wood as they used to say I guess in out back in the day
It's just amazing to me that he, like we all know, he's he's racist, but that he is gone,
to run to the right on race like the right
of the Mississippi state legislature that took down the confederate flag. You got them.
Military wanting to rename the bases you got Republicans in Congress in here
still has staked out this position. I I don't understand
I mean sharpen being what he blurt out is incredibly telling amended
a name he didn't know is Army sergeant, William H, Carney, the first african American to win the medal of honor for his bravery in the civil Fucking WAR have out that guy. I is what for
I guess, renamed answer, because you know there have been thirty five
mental vonder recipients. Only eighty eight of them have been black. That in and of itself is a scandal, but all of Us-
People would do more honour to the military if they add bases named after them. Then, like confederate traders,.
Yeah he sort of gives way to game too, and that aside, when he's like no one, even those who break is so who cares here as it now? Then
he doesn't want hogs your problem. Why why? Why do you why you want to keep the names so badly, if, like the Donald Trump from Queens, has this great connection to the confederacy from his days of doing reenactments, full it just the Ets but he's a guy that will we know what this is? We ve been doing this a long time he's talking to a sliver of the country who will either help him stay president or help him turn away and into Trump TV in either
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Let's talk about what's going on in Portland, where hundreds of Prodi
actors have been on the streets for more than fifty days. How many them protesting police brutality,
and systemic racism in the wake of George Floyd's murder, most of the protests have been peaceful, but to deal with
those who are not Donald Trump, has deployed. Unidentified federal agents from the department of her
insecurity who so far have used. Tear gas-
Rubber bullets fractured a person skull with a quote
lethal weapon and pulled people into unmarked vans where they ve been detained without a warrant. So state local officials in Oregon have explicitly ask these federal agents to leave, but the troubled ministration claims they have the authority to be there, because the President signed an executive.
Protect monument statues in federal property Tommy. Are they write? How unusual and alarming is the
pretty alarming. It's it's a scary precedent. It's a big deal.
So. The administration says that, under the Homeland Security ACT of two thousand to
the age s secretary has the power to deputize other federal agents to assist in
is agency called the federal protective service that protects federal property like the courthouse in Portland, like a bunch of monuments that we're all now really
about apparently, and so the administration is deployed. Two thousand officials from like see Bp Ice T say the coastguard and support
this agency to protect federal properties assent,
simply, but what you're? Seeing in practice is you know,
jumping out of unmarked vans, who are dont, have clear markings
what agency, therefrom and and and by the way who would expect to be detained by sea BP and in Portland were not very close to the board,
at the moment, and so the ACL you says, yeah, usually when you see people and on more cars, forcibly grab someone off the street, we call it kidnapping. I think that's a pretty good point.
Organ Department of Justice is going to sue them for civil rights
abusive, Soothies federal agencies, the? U dot S. Senators from Oregon aren't using amendment to stop the deployment of these paramilitary squads. It looks like they're trying to deploy a hundred and fifty of these men
Call them paramilitary ds, people to Chicago theirself
to me, this feels like a very purposeful effort to increase conflict to create scenes of chaos on the streets. Every time you
We time protests have gone badly in the last four or five months. It's when the cops overreach. It's when there's police brutality when protesters are beaten in the violence escalates and
Sometimes you have to wonder if that's not the strategy, because as images or what they want and Fox NEWS, it does
like a purposeful strategy, love it and also you know, by all accounts, it seems like the protests were dying down until trumps sent in these agents and now they're bigger than ever. It seems like he is trying to provoke these people
that's. What I think that's right, you know there's an interview. In the times Charlie we're tell interviewed Robert Evans, who has been covering this on the ground in Portland for last fifty days, an to sort of get a feeling of what's been happening, an end, and what that reporter described
Basically there's been a ton of overreach by the Portland Pity, right that what the federal agents are doing with the sepia, basically acting like a secret police, are doing it
is in line with what we ve seen in Portland, but the difference is
There is a kind of randomness to it and unpredictable
to it. When there has been a rhythm to these exchanges, which has made, I think a lot of the protesters
incredibly wary and yes, it does seem as though there are looking for a car,
station. There not mean this has been a bit
no problem in Portland now for fifty days, but but it it doesn't seem like. Anyone on the law enforcement side is interested in de escalation right if we had
escalation that was effective. These protests would have died down. Instead, you know that the third,
agents doing this is only brought out. More protest has only cause more unrest, only caused a greater responds and there has to be a greater response because you,
just allow you know
identified people in fatigues to go around grabbing people there.
A whole bunch, obviously is dangerous in a ton of waste. Why
We presume that that that these
from the government. You know if somebody is just pulled in grab.
The street you know. You're. You do the rest
police, we need to identify themselves the reason that their procedures, the reason that this kind of thing is not allowed is because you have a right to defend yourself. You have a right to know who's. Picking you up was pulling you off the street. You have a right to know that this is
Is it legal or not extra legal, which is what's happening now, yeah
we wanted. The protesters said that when he was pulled into of an he didn't know if they were a federal officials or like a right wing, Pelham paramilitary groups right because they ve been out in these protests as well. And how would you? How would you know the difference when you're just like thrown into event?
no it's great Emily, its incredibly dangerous, its incredibly scary. I also think it's in its fairly stupid as a whole.
Local strategy anyway, I mean you know you- did I wash Impose ABC Paul and trumpet
fine really hard for sort of crime and in law and disorder to be like a top issue on people's minds. It's not in all these poles. It's not the corona virus is the account
he is an crime, is weighed down there, but even on the issue of crime trumpets, but
Joe Biden by nine points on who would do better handling
crime and handling on order. So the idea that Trump is now
I'm going to
oh gain in the polls by sending paramilitary groups too liberal cities across Amerika it to crack down on protesters in disgusting ways is just
You know it is one of those things where it will not. It will both not helping politically but also sort of push us too much. Scarier places that country.
And when I say one more thing to you, which is that being I've seen, people try to you know, look at where the kind of
possibility for this lies, and I think, there's people there may talk about how you know the above
ice movement you know was predicting,
or at least sort of pointing
out some of the dangers of having this kind of an unaccountable police force in the country. I think, that's, I think, that's fair
in a broader sense. What we're seeing is, like NATO Tommy pointed out that there is this
made about the legality. You know one of the big goals:
Your trump is gone has to be not just to make sure we figure out what crimes were committed, not just to make sure that the president is accountable and that there is no anti corruption efforts to make sure the present can abuse and partner. Just as as he's done, there also
needs to be a real look at some of the laws that were passed in the wake of nine eleven at some of the
or powers that have been granted to the federal government into the present in particular, and those powers to be devolved back to Congress devolved back to the station
has right now, this guy, you know Chad, Wulf the acting Secretary of Homeland Security, he's making these incredibly broad statement about what is prerogatives are as the head of homeland Security, and I think, even though I think we are, we end up trapped in these kind of legal listing debates about what's aloud and it's all very murky and it's all very foggy, and it has to be the job of Congress in the beginning of the next administration, to really lay down some new barriers to abuse of power in this way vessel the dismally
the Department of Homeland Security has some fairly broad extraordinary powers. Yet to do so
the bullet in part? Because of those powers being, I think you have people, even within some of these agencies, worrying that their becoming this on a cow
a bull pyramid
Terry sort of
pseudo intelligence community force that scene,
The only respond to Donald Trump into nobody else mean the: U S, centres from the state Cancun answers that who
these guys are shocking people into vans in detaining them in their own state
it's not a well functioning democracy. That's not a well functioning police force.
Or your national security infrastructures.
Yeah. We got a really fix the ship. Yet
come on. Congress is demanding answers. They probably have to act as well
whether its investigations are whether its holding up funding and in whatever way they can, because I dont think just asking Donald Trump
answers is gonna were gonna get now. I think the organ senators to John spoiling, I think they are trying to put an amendment onto the NBA, that offence Department Funding ACT that would prevent the deployment of these individuals to their state and hopefully to other states if there actually gonna splaining on sending these guys Chicago, is that it's not gonna go well, so
There is also some sad news. Over the weekend, we lost two giants of the civil rights movement,
city Vivian about this minister and a key leader of the southern christian leadership Conference, who is described as one of Martin Luther King
Yours feel, generals passed away on Friday at ninety five,
On the same day, we also less congressmen Jean Louis, who was eighty years old, loose
notice, the conscience of the Congress, where he was first elected to nineteen. Eighty, six before that
is one of the younger leaders of the civil rights movement most famously he led the march across the Edmund Pettus Bridge and bloody Sunday. He was deeply involved
the student nonviolent coordinating committee, and he was the last
living leader to have spoken at the March on Washington, which he did when he was just twenty three years old here some of what he said.
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may hear reflections on Gmos. It is truly astonishing. Our young, though civil rights,
Others were when they were or changing the course of history. It is remarkable I mean look I'd too. I think day
Jean Louis is one of the greatest human beings this country has ever produced in that. I suspect that our kids will be taught about him in
school, in the same way that that we were taught about George Washington and it starts
starts with the incredible reverie he showed as a civil rights leader in the fifties and Sixtys, and you know that
We talk about non violent protests lap. I think it a bit of a misnomer, because their response to the non violent protest was so unbelievably violent between
we ve all seen the iconic photo of Louis being Claude by now, damage
true Brung Yemen, Pettus Bridge, but before that he was, he was nearly beaten to death for trying to use the whites. Only bathroom, Mississippi
I won a bit. I read talked about how Louis and afraid
we're staging a sit in a restaurant and the owner, lock them in started. Fumigating
place in nearly killed them with pesticide. So, like the courage,
they showed was was superhuman in the visual image of violence from white thugs is what changed the hearts and minds of people across the country, and I think a lot for some chain
civil rights ACT. The other thing that saw inspiring by Jean Louis is that the guy
state in their fight for decades ready. He came out in support of gay marriage and the early two thousands long for many others. He let it a city.
On the floor of the house and twenty sixteen to support gun violence, so he's just ate a tower.
He was also as kind
in humble and indecent a human being is. I think anyone
new in washington- and you know it just it made me very sad.
By went on a John Louis related book by
spree, starting with these great one, these march animated
yeah? So anyway, I just you know
very, very sad day. It's incredibly sad when there's a generation of people who were part
something so monumental like the that civil rights generation or your holocaust,
I right when you to lose that that living history of these moments
incredibly sad, and I think it's even more incumbent upon us to learn about
understand and pass along that story and what happens so we can all learn from it
yet there is a M pieces.
At times by Bernard Lafayette, about what it is like to fight to desegregate the buses, and there are two points that peace made- that I think we're striking one
the fear when they split up. When John, though, has got off the bus and Bernard off, it was still on the bus and they didn't
where was safe, they know what would happen when the bus got to its
final destination, because
was dangerous and there were you know they were. They were beaten, they were arrested and what the peace talks about is what it was like TAT would look into the eyes of that bus driver and know that it wasn't safety. None of this was somebody that wasn't on their side
at a time in which the law, the
government was on the side of segregation on the side of her of of
in pain on black people throughout the south, throughout the country and to Tommy's.
You know the experience of John them.
Experience of people like Bernard Lafayette, experience of people like City Vivian of look
to the eyes of white people enforcing legal racism.
How acceptable it was how taken for granted it was. I do think
something we're we're losing as this generation.
Design in the same way. As I pointed out that were seen the last of the World WAR Ii generation and the other part of the peace
that was striking too, is too
about what it was like to be arrested,
before there was a national Congress
nation around nonviolent protest before it was accepted right. We ve talked about the fact that the pulling around this
rights. Movement was near now,
as part of legend now, there's by partisan,
it when someone like John Louis passes away at the time? It was extremely divisive in the sense that white people
were against. It took a long time for why people to come on board, and so you know we're talking about.
People who were arrested and beaten before they were legends before it was long before it was clear what would happen before they would be revered when they were just taking
personal risk of there
reputation of their livelihoods of their safety. To do this
the remember. The first first major speech I ever worked with Obama was a a tribute
Jean Louis, in Atlanta, on his sixty fifth birthday, is in the winter of two thousand and five and to prepare for it is that's not one that you screw up. I'm a bird reading, his memoir by his time in the Cellar rights movement. Why
with the wind over a weekend and I have been
Ah the man ever since, and one thing,
did. Obama always went back to on Louis. Was the discipline required to sort of live a non violent philosophy?
the movement and you know Tommy. You were saying this that, like it's, not
it sometimes a misnomer, because non violence is not about shying away from violence. It certainly not about her
training violence, but is actually it's about by putting yourself in
arms way and in many instances, knowing that violence will be committed against you, and that is actually
part of the strategy- and he also talks about the fact that you know you have
look into the eye of someone who just put a cigarette out in the back of your throat and think that that person is just as much of a victim of a larger system as you are, which is sort of like a just a view that is so
hard to grasp, and it you know in a non violence, was not easy both because he was beaten to within an inch of his life multiple times,
but also in a later in the movement in the late sixties. You know he leaves
student nonviolence coordinating committee, because stoutly car, Michael and others thought that you know. Maybe violence was a tactic that we need it
and dumb, and you know he was seen as too close to I'll be J and then Martin Luther king at that time and so destructive to balance this and to have the discipline that he did throughout his life. He was almost sort of the perfect example of the activists policy
fishing, someone who starts in the movement and organizes and then becomes an elected official.
Even as while he's an elected official continues to protest, he was arrested at least biting five times. While he was come here of Congress,
there's that sort of iconic picture of him marching with with the parkland students after after gun violence. So he was right up until the end. He was still part of part of socialism
it's all across the country, so it is that it is a giant loss. So
As you mentioned, limit tributes. Sort of two Louis poured in for
just about everyone, including elected officials, and both parties? Many these tributes were requite moving
summering a bit hollow Mitch: Mcconnell in Georgia, Governor Brain Camp
Louis as a giant and a hero, despite spending most of their careers, fighting against the voting rights that he risked his life, for?
Marco Rubio. First attempts to Jean Louis Tribute featured a picture of Rubio and Elijah Cummings, which believe
Not is a mistake that Alaska, Senator Dan Sullivan also made,
when you think about all these new John Louis Vance, very
need a prey simum when they're dead, because there
longer working against you that fits
that is about right. I just you know. I also want know
the serious point is only that, like it is
It is a positive and I talked about the internet. Whatever changing poles like it is a positive when P
like John Louis Become,
revered in our national consciousness, because it's a good it'd it up.
Model of leadership of human virtue and values, to elevate, of course, but the danger.
Is in the elevation in the making of a legend, you divorce it from the actual
hard substance of what they fought for even parts of that
agenda that are either political or partisan, or what have you and your
making sure that, as we elevate some, unlike you John Louis, it's not denuded of the actual,
radicalism that he fought for four huge ports of his career and for the continued relevance to some of the things he fought for all the way back in the
fifties and Sixtys, is really really important, because you know we're in the midst of a fight over whether or not people are gonna, be able to vote and Japan
look, all right now is sitting on a restoration of voting Rights ACT.
Yeah, there's a lot of commentary,
twitter about like a wise and Donald Trump Data sent me yet I am- was prefer trumps relative silence to like just naked hypocrisy,
from Republic who wants. What are you gonna do with John John worrying. Do the job to a statement, Donald Trump? What who needs up? What are you gonna do about what
I don't know, I think it's. It is a threshold amount of decency to show respect for like one of the greatest human beings in our country, and so the fact that he, you know put out one with the type of from the golf course does speak too. How little he cares about the black community in his country, and people liked on those
me, but it's funded Duncan marker Rubio for being diamond after to post a photo of the wrong person, but so many these robins we're just gas lighting in releasing these statements, I mean
Mitch. Mcconnell, like love it mentioned, has actively fought legislation that would end voter suppression for decades and his statement.
Really pissed me off the one it might it in the worse was from Georgia, Governor Brien Camp, who stole
action from Stacy Abrams and has done more than this.
Franchise black voters in Georgia. Maybe there
than any one else alive. It
this moment so
It was pretty this
casting cynicism there they are,
clinging to the legacy of a heroic man, despite doing whatever they can t to unpack,
an undue that legacy, and we need to call him up for it.
Yeah, I'm edges anything. It's we're talking about so the best way to honour Jean Louis legacy.
The others, a bit of a movement on Twitter to rename the Edmund Pettus Bridge after Louis, though in a Louis himself set at twenty fifteen. That's a decision that should be made by the people of Selma
substantively alot of progressive Democratic proposed. Restoring the Voting Rights ACT, love it. What do you think you're gonna, take the names of of horrific racists off of bridges, replaced them with
aims of yours, I think that's a good thing to do is get everyone I do think if there
the way in which connecting the restoration of the voting rights
to John there was his legacy- is a really important and positive step that we can take. I think we should do it most
thinking about right now. How were in the midst of a fight
in Florida where, despite the fact that voters in Florida voted to restore the rights of of former
felons in that state. There is now an effort to kind of you know
get around that by making sure people can vote if they have to pay fines. This is the
the combination of a racist effort to right disenfranchise black people in Florida. Those kinds of efforts we need to fight,
all across the country and our sort of making sure
we tie what's going on right now in Florida to two to John lose his life. I think it is really important, but yeah I mean
One of the first things Congress should do is if we are able to win the war
I keep a house and when the Senate and when the White House is restore the voting rights,
in a way that lives up to John Robert is dumb opinion that
Maastricht. It back and has caused a lot of these problems. Tommy, I think fit.
Jean Louis in that generation, but him in particular showed us
the power of combining protest in turn,
direction with indian
I've legislative game that was designed to pass legislation, and
We I talk about this in the interview today, but what up
exciting and inspiring. Is that
We have seen these record historic protests led by black eyes matter, and
and, in the wake of those protests, have seen registration bumps among you
voters of color all across the country. So people are clearly following that path. The other thing. I think that you too
away from someone like John Louis is the great
in the end the willingness to to redeem others, I mean the
decency, the moral certainty to takes too
You know tell someone like George Wallis, that you forgive them for what they did to you
It's such a staggering.
Amount of grace that it's almost incomprehensible to me
it's sorely lacking in the political conversation it sorely lacking in the way I talk about politics and I think that's just something to emulate, and then lastly know you guys both hit on this, but you know what I think about money.
One or two of the Obama administration. I wish more than almost any
thing else that we are just jammed through some massive pro democracy Bell and John you're tweeting about this over the weekend. Like you know,
now, just generally making it easier to registered about making making easier to get to the poles on days had aren't elect
day or make it a national holiday there's, a million things we can enjoy.
Do that will ultimately protect our democracy
from another monster like Donald Trump, but we need to get to work on that on day, one of the binding illustration, if he wins- and he can't
sit and wait to negotiate with Miss Connell over things like the filibuster or waste any time, but I think we got a really move on this. You know. I think we should go really big on this. I completely agree with everyone who called for you know introducing legislation to restore the gutted provisions of the Voting Rights ACT. I think Joe Biden NHS first bill that he introduces, if he's president, should be the John Louis Voting Rights ACT of twenty twenty one, and I think it should go beyond restoring the Voting Rights ACT. I think to expand voting rights and basically have to guarantees and there the guarantee a guarantee for the right to vote and the right to equal representation and under the right to vote. I think you do like Tommy said automatic. Voter registration, including those have been incarcerated,
it means make sure everyone is male. The ballot make sure everyone has the opportunity, cost that ballot through universal early voting, making election day a national holiday, fully funding pulling locations, and then I d give a second part: that's the right, equal representation, and that bill should offer the choice of statehood to the people of Dc Puerto Rico. Another territories. We should do equal representation in the house by ending partisan gerrymandering, more equal representation in the Senate by eliminating the filibuster and more equal representation in the presidential elections by ratifying the national popular Vote- Interstate compact, which essentially gets rid of the electoral college. So I think we do.
You know, vine is going to confront. If he's president, obviously the pandemic, the recession, racial justice climate, I think his ability in the ability of future democratic President's and Congresses to deal with any of that is going to be constrained by the reality of a system that give disproportionate power to mostly white.
In rural citizens, and so there can be a lot of jockeying, unlike what's his first bill. But, like you know, the Good NEWS is the democratically took over the house when they passed hr, one that was a building includes some of these reforms, Joe Biden and a lot of the other candidates. When they're running in the primary said that this would be one of their first priorities. I think you gotta do it soon, because you only get a couple pieces of big legislation before the the midterms come around, and once we had twenty to twenty two twenty four twenty twenty six like it is going to be harder to get.
Rest of electoral victories and legislative victories when you don't have a historically unpopular republican president in the middle of a pandemic and the map,
can I get harder for us and if we, this could be our last chance to institute pro democracy reforms that make it easier for everyone to vote in sort of change, some of the anti Majorian Majority Marian institutions that we have right now. So I think it's a good some pretty important to do and you know had. Let me go. Let me, like Ms Mcdonald, try to filibuster the Jean Louis Voting Rights active
of twenty twenty one, and that would be such a perfect opportunity to finally end the filibuster on again yeah. It's it's injured, like I do think like it's worth thinking through
I think sometimes the filibuster has taken as this abstraction. Like do you support to filibuster and its it shouldn't, be
thought that we there's gonna be a moment where there's gonna be a piece
historic legislation versus the filibustering, I think it's worth thinking through pure politics like what is the best message bill to be the bill. You break the filibuster, it might be this, it could be climate, it could be immigration, it could be healthcare. There's a host of big like.
Even thing about this? It's like that. The staggering there are some their people talking about what inoculation might be like, and we should not count our chickens, but I dont who whatever happens like Jack
where a twenty twenty one, even if
he's gone, is not gonna, be a moment of celebration is gonna, be a moment of chaos and and grief
country an end anyway. That's all
yeah? No, I look. I
really agree. Adam there's going to be a moment early on where that's. Why, like you know, seeing a lot of people say we shouldn't reintroduce the that the bill to restore the Voting Rights ACT now. Yet absolutely, but nothing is gonna happen until we have done
President Democratic Congress and then, when we get that opportunity. Think big go big because, like this is a this will be. If we get it a very rare chance to grab something big and meaningful, and so you got to you got to take it. Okay, when we come back, we will have
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So much for doing the show its great Socrates,
They found Yon Tommy up. So
The guy I've been watching you
work and, following for a long time, acute tell us a little bit just a start,
about border latino the work you guys do and then how is that working impacted by the corona buyers here
what the Lebanon we started fifteen years ago, and I can this encounter intuitive, but it's like we were made for this moment. Our focus is young Latinos, because we recognise
they play an outside influence on their families, their oftentimes first generation, navigating America telling their parents what you don't wait:
Where was hard abide you wear it. What neighbour to live in and
it will don't are use the exact same influence her and talk to them about democracy.
And we use it really know where I was, and we speak their language, meaning no, not spanish. We speak german English. We use technology, used the internet and really do mobilization online, and so, when covert head timing,
most people were devastating,
that they will be able to continue their work on voter registration and if anything we were
able to scale in the mouth
the June, to give you an idea because of the George Foy protest vote, but I didn't know that
Experience at young people were leading it that young Latinos were outside in the african american experience when it comes to police brutality, and so we started serving up ad specifically time protest to voting busily selling democracy and by
Third, we had exhausted our voter registration and budget weeks now to have registered like twenty one thousand by the whole month
and made register over? Ninety eight thousand
credible in the states that matter right. But that's where we make our investments on young people returned. I don't have to tell them that is important for us to hold another Billy
Retraining was last mile people, young people, care
but the environment. They know that idiot you it's none of your business, you love. They know that women have a right to choose a care about gun control and they care about. You know honest immigration is that cultural shift that often tunnel
harder for older voters, not for young people
but our job as state now, let's eat about, so that you can actually make that change
I like it, makes sense that you are able to adapt I've. I've already talk about
starting that starting organization going to debt and credit cards working at Starbucks votes as an energy, our scrappy isn't gonna. Now, I'm really only it was up. There had high speed connection at the time that, like free wifi, you buy a coffee refill. Seventy times like, I was deeply unemployed for a long time. I buy expensive dinosaurs
The current, like it's incredible that you ve had this success in the midst of the corona virus is really and affirming thing to do here.
People understand that you protest and then you vote and it's all a piece of the puzzle. But
the kind of virus hasn't changed. The way we're doing voter contact is disproportionately impact.
It is of color. Has that change the conversation
in themselves that you're having our people more focused on the pandemic. That what's the difference huge area is. The challenge is sadly that lacking a clean. Any african american community are at the forefront of who the essential workers are
in times our communities don't have the choice of sheltering in place, but we are the economic engine for the rest of the country and the bigger
challenge, though, is that we are also, sadly, the leading causes of death and are covered by forever
on time in San Francisco General Hospital. Well, I think, are roughly thirty percent
population. They were over eighty one percent of the covered cases at the General Hospital,
I am in a twenty percent of the workforce has been left out of the cares. Act passed by Congress because Trump doesn't want to provide benefits to people. Tell me
and citizens who may have relatives at our undocumented living in their own households? Ah, let alone undocumented innovation.
Even though we know that in documents pay twenty seven billion dollars a year in federal taxes,.
That doesn't even include what they pay for such security? So the way we ve harness? That is we realised that we would like
we guess we d voter registration, but where a civic media organisations, so we reach roughly about six and a half million people a month before covered
in the month of June, we reach ninety two million, while
nowadays it is yeah, no, I mean, but that was because we start provided me with the information they need, and rightly we started learning that a lot of young women were really concern that they can access reproductive health and abortion care. So,
brought in Alexis Miguel. The present a plan parenthood and had a frame conversation without looks like wooded young women each no, so that they could actually get the help they need it
we ve had conversations with the ribbon guy and Hunan Castro around. How do you access ppp loans if your PA,
a very small businesses
providing them with relevant information and obviously than sneaking in that voting message. That needs to happen
why I love to talk more about the Trump administrations in these policy questions in a little bit, but allow me to start with with political tactics, gazettes or my brain is these days.
There is, I think, understandable, concern about Joe binds level of support in pulling among the Tina voters. I saw an article that mentioned how great pulling firm
Tino decisions did a survey of six battleground states. They found
letting especially younger Latinos, had a low, lower intensity or enthusiasm about twenty twenty, then at they did at this point. In twenty succeed
and I thought I always cringe a little bit when I hear like broad descriptions of latino voter,
because I suspect, if you and I were making those calls for the poor we'd here,
different issues from Cuban Americans in venezuelan Americans that may here, in LOS Angeles, but
what is your sense of Joe Biden, enthusiasm level and if there is a deficit, what might be
Having that, so we actually worked with a voter participation centre and we actually helped craft that survey that you mention and issues
When that we actually crafted, because we know that the house is on fire and
were able to well and other things that we have been seeing? Is that in the lucky no use community after Bernie Sanders dropped out, there was
Agnes in participation and so for the first time for selecting a we endorse a political candidate. We endorse Joe Biden after we, we
requested real serious policy changes from him and he's you know he we now. We have received so to speak,
the reason we did. That is because we recognise that there is a huge gap
we want to know what was well
that level thirty percent
register latino use active one will vote for, but Joe Biden right now at a soft that is a code red for
because we recognise I, unlike in black and white,
households where the parents tell the chance to go,
just turn out: it's the opposite in the local community.
A young person who are first generation Americans that are receiving voting messages they influence there.
Parents know everybody was, I would it.
The standards. Do that got all these four
in about it about they targeting young people. They use
the world has seen a strategy. I mean full disclosure. Our meal die for nine years was one of the guys in the side, the Bernie campaign, and whose is like photos you always on steroids, Tommy, whose budgets as well as what averted, unless you know fully funded campaign, would look like my friend or would it, but just to underscore your point and we Bernie Sanders one fifty three percent voting about and about a forty nine percent californian thirty nine percent in Texas Yogi, you talked about
The easy literally had a say. I know here with your strategies in the campaign, but do you think that strength was born
over performing with young voters generally was their sustained outreach. Was it all of the above, like what should Joe Biden steal from that primary
I think so its interests is a burning. Wasn't going bananas like he did among young people, like you, didn't want
sixteen right. There was actually dabbling in latin
community the focus
The again looking influencers, so I will give all completely anecdotal I'll, tell you that when I start voting in my household, I would literally my aunt would arrange a call with my mother and we would go down the list of who they should be voting for, and then they would all my relative strange. That wasn't just me. That was as how it happens, because we have our own little mafia of sorts of who's going to vote for a right. But nobody has time by young person has time right, and so that is, and that is emblematic of what happens in millions of households in the local community and an immigrant communities. I'd say the South Asia Media, the pen, I think, would be very similar and so from for Joe
my night, I would encourage him to identify where those influencers that can make this
hinges and it's not
we use a lot of Hollywood celebrities to amplifier message, but we partner them often times with validated with people work again with
But if we want to talk about healthcare, for example, we would partner- I Rosaria Dawson with a medical professionals so that she can have that conversation, because
Do you believe that we are of a generation where we don't want
What's in the glamour we want solutions
well users Arias based ask really smart passes by four amplification of the facts. Are that makes us
That's the striking is that as a stranger, he needs to deploy, among others,
In one of the things you always hear about, the Democratic Party
especially when it comes out research with Tino Latino communities, the african american community is it is too little too late. It is that the prime
mistake that campaigns making your mind are. There are their mistakes you see over and over again when it comes to reach the drive. You crazy that you just wanted to show the people right now to stop doing is
First, a fire, your team re life. If animal
but in all we do every day is wake up and figure out. How are we going to register another voter? How really get another volunteer harry? You make a butter contact, because
in a way we have skin in the game of it. Has
not on welfare us under this presidency, when this is not just under covered, but the caging of children, his chum, his creed?
de naturalisation task force to be natural, citizen citizens. The outrage should be marching in the street just beyond these basic peace,
is of policy that he's done, and
what I find and oftentimes campaigns is at the centre of gravity of the person who has the ear of candidate does not reflect the
We need that they want to serve. It does not reflect the voting population.
So there has been since eighteen fifty three. I think it is that it was alive,
time that the majority of white men voted for a democratic candidate.
So who's running for them again,
Darfur, is very diverse population that happens to be young.
The times it has to be women, and that has to be people of color, so that
campaign strategy should include people that look of, I would say, a whole bunch of smart young people a whole bunch of women that have you know that are particularly at our mothers, because we actually have different issues that we care about, and people of color.
And that's not the way, usually happens. Now. It's like it's a lot of people that look like me when the reality is that white male voters are the root of a lot for a prophets fell, but no, but I would say something that they look like you it's because he needs youth in there I have. I can call you use it now, as the only those I mean. What are well above the brilliantly is that he had website
young people of all
the cities in his ear
strategy and network areas, and it was not just
field organizers. It was up and down the campaign any they transformed how we communicated
he was a digital organizing president at the same time re. So he opened it up and what I see of the times in the last couple of campaigns, not just with fine with many of them, is that they become
insular and its,
that insular nature actually gives you blind spots
What is happening on the ground to be reactor?
I think that is the challenge facing what
My concern is that everybody right now wants to crimes like these tribal peace.
Lena. There is a generation that is, that is incredibly diverse. That actually has a vision for what the future looks like.
And it's going to take all of us and that should be reflected in the camp. I totally agree
Indeed, the shrink Obama had was one. You know you
an organizer by trade into he was. He was still
in the first lady were sold normal people at that point like they had just paid off their loans, they yell at their first condo was, you know small too tight for their kids. They were
and being sacred, relate under four level too
You mentioned the restoration. I mean
this White House is full of people like Stephen Miller, who seems to wake up every day and think like how can we punish immigrants? How can we punish me
or from Mexico or central or South America. Particular the family separation policies is, I think, one of the cruellest chapters in our countries recently
free that I think the conventional wisdom or waste Washington would be like that, should that you people thought this.
Going to turn off latina voters forever
but you know when you see asked him:
it's like us also mean the Atlantic that sad Trump seems on track to capture twenty five to thirty percent of latina voters. What do you think the disconnect
between that conventional wisdom in the reality of what the Math Navy,
I am sure I dont think that I think the they always protect folks project high oftentimes, because where they find a lot of these letting the voters and even after american voters, is they
We become a sub sample of places like Westchester, Connecticut right. If you're Westchester can yet again a person of color you're. Ok right here, you don't have the same issues and they dont reflect the population at large. What I do those things that is part of the challenge and the campaign has
opportunity to demystify
is that even when I speak to the community and in my again,
who is Sonoma? California. I, when I thought, when I
back home their basing saying. Well, you know the neighbours are saying that trunk gave me a hundred. Our czech airs act
well, that's not from him right, so there might be some sense that he's giving them some sort of lake up,
this pandemic, when we know that that is not the case, so it's a long winded say a way of saying that
everybody it as a voter, doesn't really turn onto a campaign until after Labour day and
At that moment, we have to do mystify until the truth of what has
happened under this. This administration people
die needlessly because they have been able to get their act together. We had when we started the pandemic softer. We start.
Seen South Korea,
ITALY is at an all time high and very covered
right, there are recovering like they actually have, because it under control
they have systems in place, and we have an administration that no people say that it is incompetence actually say it's malpractice, because we have a president who was its encouraged
people to take lie saw as a way to combat
the virus that is
encouraging someone to harm themselves with potential Deaf rice's we're not fire
and with them anymore. I think a lot of times. We will we're trying to figure out how bad was he can be ever learn you Gingrich saying, will let him be an apprentice president and from the beginning I was always. He told us he was the end
nothing that he's done if anything he's crueler and then he's already promised as he would be, and we can point to
Steve Miller, but it
Even Miller has power only because the present allows him too. He is
right locks up inside with whenever Steve Miller, soon will and proposes, and sadly I can share with you that he starts with the document community, but it's also part
of whom he considers American, and I say this because the administration and include a citizen to question the sense of right and they were like- we just went nowhere. Population as well. The Supreme Court struck the
this question because they were able to find
on the day and operatives email, an email that literally said that they want the census question because they wanted to create white now
hispanic republican districts at that
I don't even want Republicans, they just want. As a very specific. There are very specific worldview and seven people say: will you know it's rhetoric as its policies that we actually have during the condemned
he wanted to snap, which is a food programme for
was they for women and children, because he was going
proportionally before brown people write like that. That's that's cruelty! When we know he and then say well, what's your, how do you translated to the general population he's actually trying to healthcare
the asiatic. While we have an all time high of healthcare access- and none of it makes sense, ya, know you're right. It's cruelty. Is the policy and the Thatcher Stephen Miller, its steel, fitting manatee opening suited the top
policies for jumping around a little bit, but your pain and we ve been. We just went through
when are still going through in some places, the six
The ordinary protest movement after the murder, George Floyd and black lives Matter- has that protest movement in six
ass of it in the power of it. She
Your organization, the people you work with think about ways to create chain
or how they want to conduct themselves. Now till the election.
Absolutely so. We we were part of a president bombers,
twenty four century placing taskforce, because we recognise that, while the African America
population sadly, is the most targeted it. We need not far behind
the biggest challenges in electing a community? Is that we know that we suffer police brutality, but because most precincts Tommy, only Rick
Lord raced based on black or white theirs.
Asian and there's no a t now, depending on what shades scale you fallen, that's how the report, but we know that it is it's a problem, and so when the George Floyd protest are happening, we started specifically talking not just about voter registration participation, but we also had a bit of a joke. I come to Jesus moment because twenty four percent of let the universe identify as black
it is because Latinos come from different parts of the Americas
I found my grandmother. She is Africa alone, Vienna, she's, F, Reno. She is that is with her here. It is and where she comes from, and so it was an opportunity for us to have a very bluntly
discussion of what was happening in the world.
Not really even basin, to some policing but our ship about race conversations that we need to have with our parents to an packet. Any problem
did. I think it also an opportunity to speak truth and to end to figure out how do we,
moves the needle I'll policing itself in the survey that you mentioned with ethical decisions. One of the questions we asked was specifically that and one of them
That we learned was. The top three issues were lucky knows: first, is healthcare. The second was jobs. The third one was social
and racial justice for blacks and happiness?
was Hugh S revelation I mean we we knew it essentially, but for older, letting us to be part of that is speaks to how much awareness that is created for us to actually give for, though, that it is urgent that hopefully answers to, by the way, with the things we will cover
It is illegal outsourcing, the show
activists in their own life. They make phone calls and they text on the weekend,
I think, sometimes when people think about voter contact and persuasion
You imagine this scene where you come to a door and you knock on it and you in you talk to it.
I'm photo and, by the end of the day, change their mind and that's not really how a lot of fuel
whereas ran a lot of it is like how do u turn
A non voter into a voter are thereby ass practice
says that you learned over years of doing this, that it, you think, are broadly applicable that people can steal from you.
This is the wildest thing, so in the last two elections cycles, for it
percent of registered Latinos, never received of utter contact. Well, that's terrible,
party, you forget it, it's actually ten zero registered right right now, right and so the big
thing you can do is actually talking in the reason being is because young voters and letting us
civically as well, don't have a voting history and so that we can decide to work as equal. These folks are sure bats with some there sure, but have no are no longer part of our party, like they went to the Republicans I'd, say: you're, voter contact by default
becomes for the other side. I wouldn't
Did you know new year research look for organizations that deal specifically with young voters.
And that toxic communities of color. You know when you talk to don't Jones what he did. He say thank you to the african american community, the lifting of money in the jewish and happy Hanukkah. That was his life is like baby message, but he's ever. What did you do? You think I contacted every border
and every voter on our side you know and for relational organizing people? One volunteer with us. You know
volunteer to seven three, when seven nine- and we will put you- don't work, two texts, every vote because
the numbers are on our side. Tommy
our job is to ask and one of the things that we knew. What was from best practice is that when you asked
Let me not to register and ask them to vote. They turn out
seventy nine percent of the only register about its because, but no,
asking them breakers, anything. If
running innocent people who are registered, let alone the opportunity at so basic
we make it are everybody's. I call you openings and people will wish you. We don't like this register in time.
Then, because we actually have for them.
First time we're gonna have to twelve million more young voters than baby boomers. That's a huge opportunity.
Because for the first time of the mid term election generation,
Ex Whimsie outvoted, older voters, and we brought in the most diverse Congress and when people say will so why, unlike with it,
four hundred pieces of legislation in that speech to values as a result of this diverse Congress that was ushered in by a new generation of voters? All that
exciting wheeled to finish the job there is,
there was set in a new
go by you, which was that of the problem of the thirty two million Latinos those eligible to cast about in twenty twenty, four million of them turned eighteen after the twenty sixteen election wishes speaks to how young and how powerful this emerging crop of voters. Is that a huge number,
yeah. So when we started fifteen years ago, there is thirty thousand looking austrian each and every single month.
Now it's a million every single year in that soon Ami lugging voters won't crest for ten years
on earth. I mean it's also whitey. They decide to get the voting rights address, procreate, alleys, voting barriers because they saw a huge new young in a group of
besides genus, but literally a new generation of voters than last generation is larger than baby boomers generation. Sea is our largest generation and there
means power and with deeply beautiful, but this regeneration is that they are clear, eyed they dont platitudes, but they were
solutions in their rolling up there are there there. I can english
So this is where my yes outcomes in you now. I love to say these idiom that I always felt suavely taught within slaves. They are partly as a good straddling thats, not re words, the fact, but I gotta have excellent better. I never that they want to get people who will work under. We have good. It is good
last question, for you I mean I'm sure, there's like people. Listening who hear about
but I don T, know they want to get involved. They wanted, or or maybe they went away.
With your. Maybe that's why I support you directly workin they go what's which they do.
I think those who voted no dont worry, they can register develop and they or they can donate twenty bucks and pay. It forward were really good at registering voters
registering them roughly at twelve dollars and with the extra three dollars we basically get them out to the poles. Some does Amazon.
And then I'm finally pleased that one tears off a text volunteer to seventy three thousand one hundred and seventy nine. There will put you to work,
That's not a problem, I it. While we have a lot of listeners who who scared to death
and so I imagine you'll get some tax from this a real. Thank you so much for for doing the show. Thanks for your work, you doing, I would vote a latino and
you know, I guess we just work soaring
Ninety goes away until November. That's the deal now.
I see this pillar paying attention and that's good and the fact that we saw such a surgeon. Voter registration is that people are fed up and our job is to close that gap and
folks flood the zone, we there there are a hundred
eighty million of us set it out last time flood the zone.
That way. We send a clear message not just to this president, but also to the Senate, that they have to get their act together, that we're paying attention men
and mine and get rid of the filibuster when I messed around this time
the hue again great idea.
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