Dan and Jon L. talk with Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden about what’s at stake for our democracy in the 2020 election, his final debate with Donald Trump, his plans for tackling the climate crisis, Vote Early Day, and what everyone can do to help in the final days of the campaign.
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not a chance to talk to you. Vice president, Joe Biden, we asked him about the debates. We asked him about
jumps lack of a second term agenda and the stakes in this election. It was a great conversation, so in a list to it,
save America he's the first person to ever win three presidential debates in only two attempts. Please welcome
Vice President Joe Biden, thanks webinar being to vary. The thank you
Leslie Stahl said to Donald Trump before he walked out on the interview. Are you ready for some tough questions?
You guys. I know one these I'd rather beyond Fox. They make easy
wait till you see these vast balls. Governance have very nice. Rather I want to start with last night's debate
on that debased agent. Actually, throughout this campaign, President trumpets lobbed, false action
nation, after false accusation about your son Hunter for doing things
we know for a fact that Donald trumps children have been doing profiting from the presidency. Yet both
both last night and for others. You have not brought up his children's active
I assume that that's a specific decision, I'm curious why you ve made it
civic decision. Lawyers think it's crass
I mean I, I just I've never thought it was a look I'm running as Donald Trump modest children.
and the american people want to hear about their families, not about trumps, family or my family,
Although I am very proud of my family islanders, I think, but
just I just think it's just not. Ours raised some basic spouse
tromp, so also in the debate Trump seem to think he had a kind of gotcha moment there. At the end, when you talked about transitioning away from oil and fossil fuels, even though
subsidies for those industries, is very popular, any really wish. You'd say: you'd ban fraction
there you have it at the same time,
I'm set these ambitious climate goals as party or plan, and a lot of pulling shows that
climate change is the number one issue among young people, particularly among young people, decide
whether or not to vote? What is your message? Should those young people who are passionate about this issue, but sceptic
call that they can count on. You are really any politician to actually deliver and take this issue with the urgency it demand
is the number one issue facing humanity.
The number one issue for me and all the way back in the 80s, I'm the first person ever ever a layout need for a to deal with global warming and back nose and Politifact said check it out. It was a game changer and but it's just the way in which this campaign is Ben runs the beginning about me in the primaries that it just never got traction. Look. Climate change is the existential threat to humanity, the existential threat to humanity,
on checked, it is going to actually bake this planet. Not this is not hyperbole. It's real and we have a moral obligation is not many.
Down. I worked for a long time, don't Henry often
a moral obligation.
We have a moral obligation. Not just a year
people were more obligation to everyone. Look what's happening right now. You just look around the United States of America
Forests are burning at a rate larger than
get on Rhode Island combined be lost people.
losing their homes, their lives in the middle of it
three. We are in a situation where you have one hundred year. Floods occur,
every several years, wiping out entire entire counties.
And doing great damage and by the way
then you may remember the first thing that Brok and I were told about when we
When we went over to where it taking to the over Us Defence Department, I said the greatest threat facing the greatest security threat. America faces is climate change,
because it's gonna happen. You see mass movements of populations.
fighting over land said father fighting over the ability to live.
and it is an existential threat, and so
I just think, but also presents an enormous opportunity, is bizarre.
We are one of the few countries in the world. The joys memo take things that are serious problems and turn them and opportunities its
also, the vehicle by which we can not only save the planet, but we can generate such economic growth.
and led the world. But we have two problems:
one. We have an internal problem in the United States. What are we gonna? Do we make up? We make up fifteen percent of the problem.
But were in a position where the rest of the eighty
percent of the world's responsible. For the rest, we can go. We go net neutral in terms of carbon tomorrow
and we're still gonna, have our shores flooded, we're still gonna these trivia hurricanes. The polar caps are going to count
you'd going. We're gonna have we're: gonna have hurricanes and storms that will increase
and so we have to do two things. We need a president who can lead the world. That's why I was so deeply and
in setting up the existence of the Paris climate.
word as well as do the things we have to do. It can do
point I'll make up our by any detail. You'd like me to, but the last point I would make is that you know the way we have to do this is we you know we cannot discount the concerns of people, what it means to their well being,
not only in the future now, but what about how they make a living
That's why I'm the first person I'm aware of that, went to every major labour union in the country and got them
sign onto my climate change plan, which is extensive,
we're. Gonna get to
zero net emissions for the production of electricity by twenty thirty five and is going to create millions of jobs, but we gotta let people we can.
Cavalier about the impact, is going to have an hour and transition to do all this, but I just think it's a gigantic opportunity. A gigantic opportunity create really good,
What are you see as the relationship you're gonna have to do so, a lot of climate active, as you have said. Basically, we have
everything we can to get Joe Biden Office is an existential threat and in their plans
but a ton of pressure on you to make sure that Europe,
solutions are on climate change. What are you expecting? I went to put pressure on advance groups. I'm gonna put pressure on them to live up to what their this cause. They talk about starch off with body
You stole softly voluntariness starch off with making sure that their organizing and they're taking care to make sure that people on the ground from the fence line communities can take
Kara make sure the priorities you said so we had to sit in a situation where people who were hurt the most could help. The quickest you know is that this is
You know I and I understand the sense, but the fact is that look. The first thing we're going to do is make sure that
we use the ability we have now and I will, as present it, to do away with a hundred changes in in an executive orders. He isn't he put forward to do everything from allow more methane to
sheep, into the. In the atmosphere allow to pollute river,
A whole range of things. We can do that very very quickly, but
also many require us to make sure that we deal
What with what we have to do now, for example, we should you know, as you guys know, because you both worked administrations, that
Where's United States has control over six hundred billion dollars in assigning federal contracts.
everything from one of the largest auto fleets and trucking fleets in the world to infrastructure when, as
Dan. I remember one the present
made a handle, make sure we got
recovery ACT in eight hundred billion dollars was going to be distributed to keep us from going into a depression,
He gave me the authority to run that from beginning to end and what we did
as we were able to invest in bringing down the cost of renewable energy to compete with coal, gas and oil,
and so now you see what's happening is becoming a fait accompli.
No one's gonna build another org.
has fired electric plant
to build one that is fired by renewable energy. We have to invest billions of dollars and making sure
Rachel to transmit over airlines, you may remember damage
sadly, that of those office buildings in between the interregnum period there and we thought we could just make sure we could transfer this rule. This renewable energy across the country
Remember that big map upper we show revolver Alma, all the high tension wires. We're gonna go the smart grids, that's right exactly right, but what happened? What happened was not mine,
for her people didn't want to have a high tension wires in their neighborhood. So
we're gonna do is happening now in working on this. For three years
You have a lot of folks in Silicon Valley, in other places, doing research on battery technology, so now
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going to be able to have all the energy you need. In the meantime, we're gonna provide five hundred and fifty thousand charging stations for real on the new infrastructure green in. For
we're. Gonna, be burning, we're gonna on the electric automobile market, creating millions
problem doing that. This is not hyperbole. These are the things that have been run through by economist and Wall Street and and also by people who are in in in in in in the thought community. The people were running these major institutions, and so there's so much we can do and we can create a clean and vine, but we can also grow the economy.
And get people good wages, the fastest growing industries, are solar and wind solar
and when I got up and fifty bucks an hour
repairing prevailing wage. Every single contract, the president gave new thoughts,
let when we were running recovery at every single one paid prevailing weight at forty five to fifty bucks, an hour plus benefits, so that's happening,
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and in just the last hour here the Republican Party tweeted out his second term
and some to read that to you
item number one establish a pie
minute man presence on the moon,
were to send the first
and mission to Mars and number three filled. The world's greatest infrastructure system, and I dont number
or establish national high speed, wireless internet network now
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that absurdity, if you do not want to buy what would sort of
your version of that we wanted what are the three or four things that are at the top of Joe Biden First term agenda. Yet control of the virus yet Control corona virus. Without that nothing else is going to work very well. Number one number to invest
in the community in rail infrastructure arrangement promising and invest in infrastructure in seventeen eighteen, nineteen, twenty he
hasn't done. A single, solitary thing servant
rest in generating economic growth in the United States by making it and why,
from bided American Maiden America. He is exporting jobs overseas.
the first thing we're going to have to do is to in order to compete in an Ashley, is we're going to have to compete. We used to have we used to invest a little over two point: six percent of our gdp in, and research and science
two point: six percent we're going to invest in science and technology, we're going
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and the Good NEWS is the people on them. They are not private institutions.
whilst ass most of all by a university
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continue to invest in the research and development and it's gonna go from.
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as well as we're going to invest five billion dollars a year in cancer research weaker to cure cancer. Mark my words,
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things I laid out- and I know it's boring is hell, but is consequential. I laid out a farm policy.
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courage able of set aside, so we pay farmers for putting their
their land and a lamp bank and planning deep rooted plants. You say what's out about its about carbon capture. Put this in perspective
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we're not doing much at all, organizing the rest, the world go to them presented.
and say we're going to pay you collectively the following small
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this interview is gonna cut out tomorrow.
Which is early vote day, and so on the issue of inaction.
to question, which is what I think
A bomb used to call pulling a chart Todd so perhaps
wine. What's your message to the folks who have not yet voted or do not yet have a plan of in part two
the folks who have already but fifty million Americans, you ve already voted. What can they do over the last ten days to help make sure that you and Extra United States.
First of all, you know what really rankles my opponents
I say that the thing that bothers the most he's, not a patch on Brock's jeans, I mean Barack, was one hell of a president, and I tell you what man what an honor it was. I think you guys believed it to to serve.
I'm an incredible honour and are not being solicitous. I really mean that he had more integrity is little finger than most people have in their whole body. Indiana backbone, like Ramrod, has one
but one of the things that I think is most important is
those who haven't voted again. First of all dot, I will vote dot com to make a plan exactly how you gonna go to vote about when you're gonna, because
It can get complicated because the Republicans and doing everything they can to make it harder for people to vote, particularly people of color to vote
so go to. I will vote dot com. Secondly,
in a situation where we have put together and you guys did Jennifer. I missed the President Obama's administration before this we have put together. I think the most extensive and inclusive
voter fraud organization in the history of american politics. What the press
it is trying to do, is discourage people from voting by implying that there won't be counted. It can't be counted
challenges and all these things, if enough people vote
gonna overwhelm the system. You see what's happening now. You guys know it as well as I do you see the long long line in early voting. You see the millions of people have already cast about and so dont be intimidated. If, in fact, you have
any any problem go to, and I don't have the number, but it's a three three damn vote.
The letters de envy o t call that number
We have over a thousand lawyers
One thousand answer the phone: if you think there's any challenge to your voting, go to eight three three, damn vote dial.
Those letters on your phone that,
get you the assistance that we have already put in place. Thirdly, for them,
those who have already voted, it's not enough with
Love you not enough that you won't you gotta, go out and get your friends you gotta go out and get your family guy
go out and get people for so many people like the old days when we used to meet it used to be a lot easier? There's somebody
people when you guys we ever will knock on doors, are no missus. Smith did never vehicle that you driver to the pole. Are you suppose you make sure that you get your friends your family, because
you know, is Jean Louis said before he passed away. It's really
You have a sacred right and it's a sacred obligation. The vote, particularly young people,
you're, the one who, if eighteen to twenty four year old, took twenty five.
is all vote in the same percentage, but the rest of the population voted in in twenty sixteen, we know what happened.
Would have had five point: two million more people voting you
own the election. You can only outcome, it really really really really really matters and make the case to your friends. Make your case, your friends. If they can't complain if they dont bow and it's gonna, be counted,
It's going to be counted and because I think the american people going to show up Dan in such large numbers
gonna, be no way to avoid the outcome and look what he's down from the beginning done everything to try to discourage.
Sandy's not trail, except the result is not sure what to do.
I guarantee you will accept the results and I'll be out in.
There's no other than a stick with them.
You know how he is using only present. I know that sixty
the generals who work directly form said he's unfit to be President commander in chief. So I'm not worried about any any clue here.
I'm not sure. There's gonna be, but is love.
think about everything has been said.
When I said about three months ago, I think he's going up he's going to see
Yes, you may not step down and may not accept the outcome of our people's at all that there goes by. What do you do two weeks later, it's all designed to try to keep
people from voting, so those of about it you know,
Oh, how long it took you, how you did it, what you did go to, particularly if you have you no grandparents,
older folks, your neighbor to you Now- and they have
they have an absentee ballot, showed
It matters how they feel about it's complicated, some of summit
made it easier for people in many states and by the way,
watch why we challenge it may not out holed up in Pennsylvania with the Supreme Court were to change it
Now they have allowed, the county is postmarked, as can be counted for all the way from next several days, which you should be you
in Texas, the governor, haven't you drop boxes wanting to carry some of the counties are biggest my state almost litter
and the idea is one dropbox and so we're
and a big, have gonna people out there. Police unit watching making sure do not be intimidated
go out and help those who now have physically physical. The difficulty getting up
in place or may need help on how to get done. What they need to get done to vote
I will vote dot. Com will tell you exactly where you could go where you live. What
circumstances are available to you and vote early boat early.
I and I, by the way I particularly at one of the things we did. You know you
our generation is stepped up.
things. You may recall
started. Arguing for is the need for significantly more young Paul workers were found.
some of you have showed up. Thousands of you showed up
because of covert older people of traditionally are the poor, watchers and make sure everything's cool, squared away, they're afraid is shot because they dying.
Are there getting cold with many a worried about their? She was happy to their friends, and so what's happening. Is this election is a generation election? This is this: is this generations opportunity not a joke to
take back our democracy. It literally literally my word is abiding is at stake. Are democracy is at stake
And you know we are, I, and I have to admit to you. You know,
We heard that I was of history and political.
Major in college. I ve been involved in public life. My whole adult life.
But I never really believed that it was really you know every generation has to earn. It will guess what it's in jeopardy man it's in jeopardy, do not be intimidated, do not being
emanated and whether you vote for me or against me- vow whoa whoa
there's, not a single thing. We can do with the american people stand together and ask that I personally I mean it, there's nothing, nothing beyond our capabilities! On that note,
Vice president, Joe Biden, thank you so much for your time. Good luck! In the last!
ten days and let's go in this,
I'm gonna- give it hell way. Thank you very much. By the way you guys have such an enormous following not only with my children,
my grown children, but my five.
Children her arranging age from twenties?
haven't too are to fourteen are now that's not true. Sixteen should be very upset, I say forty, but our can decide you you you,
only the really reaching out and an- and you touch me because you talk, you know you talk plainly the people and matters it really matters.
Anyway, thanks looking forward to seeing you guys in person there. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much.
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