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Thank you very much. I love you. I know you're, so I don't know why I had to ruin your son, it's my job to report the news and

since this terrible fight going on now in ukraine, you heard there's a war there. Oh, my gosh and their fighting near the biggest nuclear plant in europe and if they break at this, could be that that they say that it could do to fall out could spread to all these eastern european countries, slovenia, slovakia, could threaten trumps entire wife supply. Looking at this issue right when it is men not going to be in the news now we're like weak three of box gate. where they went in the mar a lago. The fbi ought to get his boxes, and you know every week now we hear different stories about why he is ok to have taken these from maga land I know it's like they weren't classified ok, they were classified within our magically declassified and latest their planted. The f b I play

did them in a related story? Dijon watson today said that two dozen, besides there is planted his dick in there Rudy julie on as if it be said, it's ok that drugs doll this stuff, because you know they're there in a place that just as safe as the place they originally were, and everybody knows that the rule you are allowed to take shit if it's in a safe place, Try this in real life, I didn't write that drugstore. No, it's just in my safe house.

And now it is running the republicans very against the f b. I know there were always the law and order people right now to define the f b. I get rid of the f b. I leave behind. Am I the only one remembering this there? The squares, the iron, their underwear that show the f b? I is dull they're from the nineteen fifties. It's like bitching, there's nothing good on CBS the fucking thing lol on my aircraft, but I tell you this strategy is working. We're coming to the end of primary season. Trump has won eighty five percent of the people. He endorsed Liz cheney. First on her ass in wyoming

Thirty seven points the Republican there were like who likes elections now bitch, but the truth is most residents of wyoming does relate more to trump, because most. residents of wyoming our cows, the persons digging with journeys by your wyoming named harriet, hagman, used to be an anti tramper call them. all the names that people called trump and then of course wanted a job switched up and trump lesnar is trump loves the most. When you flip someone who used to be against him

like a pimp. Turning out a virgin, you know so he's got four investigations now against them and the people he worked with are being rolled up. Wiseman is the moneyman guy. He pleaded guilty this week. Fifteen counts of really giuliani had to sit for six There is a testimony lens. Graham a federal judge that he must testify there in georgia about trump trying to fuck with the election there and graham said he is not going to cooperate, but he always wanted to be the target of probe. We make it so this really is says all about american the world. What we in our scandals or about like coups. undoing real election janata. A scandal is in Europe. There all upset this week about the prey

minister of Finland, santa Maria she's, thirty six there. She is and they gotta run tape, partying yeah, this is the that's, that's the brain. your defence. It is still hot girl summer. That's the prime minister of Finland! That is not fair. They get that we get this.

Three blurbs that people are saying like Margaret thatcher, wouldn't do that Margaret thatcher couldn't do that the she's, a millennial you're just lucky. She wasn't doing it on her phone. You know the thank you one. Guy, the and now prime minister maroon is your chance to answer this she's saying or the other you're drugs. She said. I've never used illegal drugs and, as you can see from the bite hips, don't like why, as everyone in the world once it has two way and on this in saudi arabia, Mohammed been someone said I'll, give you

a million for the dancing girl asked widen about it. He said I have no comment A good relationship with the prime minister in the end, her hair, smells terrific yeah. The first half is an actor writer and director film vengeance out in theaters now and available on demand, bj Novak, the alright I'm going to muslin bury the lead. I loved your movie. I told you that two seconds ago finisher thought that my joke is ballroom girl, runner and it is great

This will be so it very hard to give us an absence of a good moment. James you to do with the bad movies, but since the title is vengeance, I don't want people to. It sounds like you're trying to be John wick, because people do that right. They get to a certain point in their career and not like. I need a franchise where I'm a bad ass killer yeah. This is not the beginning of a franchise where you're a bad ass, skillet- probably not yeah, but give a shot at just because people say what's it about. Whenever you say I saw a great movie what's it about, I saw your stood up. I saw your segment about the obsession with movies that have the word vengeance in it and I smiled thinking that that maybe you would see this title coming up, but is in a way about that. It is. Why are we obsessed with vengeance and it's about a sort of journalists and podcast her played by most? of kind of shallow guy little lost and he finds what he thinks

The story of a lifetime, his big break woman has died of an opiate overdose, a girl he was kind of looking up with the family there were more serious, it's kind of an awkward comic, beginning and away. He goes to the small town in texas, where family, thinks ay, they were very close and be. She was We need to avenge her death. My character wants to not be involved in a vengeance. Papa does one talk about Why do these people in this red state feel they need vengeance about something that doesn't need vengeance? Foreign becomes sorted. His social thriller story becomes more of a personal surprising journey and its funding and it's a comedy. They emanate the good kind of comedy, not a joker company there, although the lab lots, alas, but it, I think it comes at a character this year

I like that so much. I also related a lot because I'm a blue guy who goes to read states all the time, and I love them right. What and this is, I think, about what I got from something that your character goes through to. How can these people- who I really don't agree with politically I love them so much. I see that in the right I mean your car, you speak very self from my cared about what tour. I mean, I think, what s great about, exploring something through comedy or through drama, which, in my opinion, are basically the same thing with different writing. That sounds like completed when we start to get a great comedy comes from playing the drama in finding the funny situation, so I do think when you play anything with that. You need to feel for the characters and unique to every actor needs to love their character. A director needs to love the characters. And so finding the love for the the point of view of every single person. This movie, I think, was important any for me

by the year or two hours after loving the redneck characters. Oh sure, well, that come slowly out, but I Come sure you're, not there, that long and taxes should go down there. It's not that long before your written at the water for regular. What where the absolutely why'd I do think in my own experience. You know when even one I went down to research, the movie, the the warmth. I was shown right away. I expected or they're gonna see this blue state hollywood guy, who is probably soup liberal and there to make fun of them. I should be careful here, I was treated with so much warmth and benefit of the doubt in person the same people about you, not your car, it's hard to differentiate, especially at the beginning, but when I went there I was, I would absolutely the same journey of the character that once you sit down with people in an

sure room. It's a hundred eighty degrees different from who you think you are online. So one thing on line about the movie, is there is a character arc? You know I mean that we make so few adult movies these days, it's different in ones where characters of raise shooting out their fingers that's not how you resolve the plot with bright blue so what we say to american how this prescription you have for the car, dissidents, the I don't agree with you politically, but I like you personally right that your character goes through. How would you advise the whole How can we do that on a national level on mass? I think, in my opinion, it's about

a motion more than argument, and I think it's about stopping ourselves from picking at the scab of everything that we disagree. Which is twitter is a. Is a sort of drought, for that and when we're separate behind screens, we we pick the scab we bite. The canker sore of things we disagree on and I mean you and I think that if we, if we just all true, do that less and focus on things like comedy or sports or art or whatever or sitting down over dinner. I think that that is a start. We do have. What would you ever live in a place like that?

I mean forty nine percent of taxes, a blue right, I mean these places are very diverse. Right so sure I like excess you love these, but I do you and by the way, where one of funny part in the movies you go to a rodya with this family that you're living with somebody would never go and do something only some and not from text. Would not. Now, when I yell out the name of what does it universe, here's a fan of the university of texas right and you stand up. They gotta be her with the crowd, not realising that university of Texas is the one in austin right and asked, and is not texas to saxon right and it is a very blue place yeah, and so when people about when I saw that I thought you know when people talk about how we can have a second civil war. We can't because we're amongst each other there is now the only way out is through meaning. I think we need to. There is no separating we're stuck we're stuck we're stuck at the dinner table. You know. So when are you moving? There

so they're interested bound in places like texas, the big yellow cry is often freedom. I want my freedom through government is getting in the way of their freedom and we all have I is about freedom. My freedom gets in the way of your freedom. You know they want their guns. Other peoples want to be free from thinking, I might get shot right. It's a tricky thing freedom, but Lately we ve been talking a lot about this, we're going to talk about it. Tonight of freedom in the arts. You know you ve written some episodes of one I can think of off the top of my head, at the office which they don't show. Now I see jamie foxx. His new movie was shelved. I guess he made it a few years ago, but they're not going to ever show it and

make less comedies mean you beyond awaited, make a comedy about something, but I'm sure you to be very careful about a lot of different things there making less, because it's worth it took to even try. What what were you and I think that feed there's a difference between the gatekeepers in the audience, and I think you probably this first hand as a stand up. The audiences, I think, are pretty down for we're thing: they're, pretty smart people can be handy. Trusted can be trusted a lot more than the gatekeeper. Sometimes worry into. Gatekeepers are worried about that, at her. In their own spheres, but I think audiences can be, can be trusted to be pretty smart. It's not in the hands of the audience, and that's what I'm saying so. I'm saying I think the problem I dont think the problem is the audience is reduced sensitive. I think the problem

the people are worried that other people are too sensitive right. So this is like a question. I really would ask you and other kinds of shows, but I must and do I have to ask: is there going to be a reboot on my office? I I know the I love that show so much. Thank you. I know you do and I appreciate that so much and and I love it too- I it's not up to me. I know, but what I always think that just the relationship between ryan and kelly yup Which obscure is nothing like your relationship with this is people magazine was so serious so long. But what am I gonna clause break for something smart, I mean what about just bad? Is it show there

college ass. Just that relationship I waited like would be very much. I will bring it up. You will bring us. I love, you know something with hammer when you're up my house and my dog bit poorman my doom, but I feel so bad about that will tell you said: johnny, ok, she's become, I should have asked anyway, thanks for being here, it's a great movie you're, going to make a lot more great moments during the game than the warrior is an associate editor for commentary magazine and author of the rise of the new puritans fighting back against progressives warren

I know a rothman the fears, an op ed columnist at the washington post and cnn political and economic commentator, catherine rampell, the smart people. So, let's go right to your book because it fits in with what we were just saying, because your book is about how somehow the you are saying- and I've certainly heard it before. I may have said it myself before They are the ones who seem to have the stick up there s now. How did tat happen? That's really the question that I begin with this mystery, because finding corrupting influences and innocent cultural, fair was a right thing for most of our adult lives, all the sudden treated to moral crusades from the left in europe. Familiar with a lot of the arguments like gonna go, tell a tabbies exactly that member who is a jerry for well. The purple teletype was gay document. Corrupt eu correct your children,

great society and the latter hearing some more echoes of the day we rise me, I mean those who are still out there. They are. The road are cobra, revamp, chests all the sudden, the left, which emphasised self gratification self. Even here Ism is somehow now decided that they have to emphasise their own moral code of competing moral code and re moralize society you're familiar with all these anecdotes been rather than survey the landscape landscape of crazy and say this is all crazy. This applies a moral framework to its tried, it he's out the puritanical strains that produced progressive ism, mainline protestant new england and has produced progressive hasn't today that hates idleness that which is in contributing to the progressive project? Even an innocent cultural stuff is detracting from that. object. Ok, so you're saying, if we're not helping, were hurting, that's there. generally the outlook there doesn't there's virtues to this. A lot of this is virtuous conduct of euro conservative, for example, watching progressives. Read this

where the idea that, when you're in a room with men and women who are single and its bathed in alcohol, socially destabilizing things can happen. This is of value the conservatives have understood. Time immemorial. That was not a progressive leftist left wing value during the sexual Lucian during the nineties, even there. Okay, now it is today increasing. I don't know why we just had a vice president, who clearly alone and wrong with a woman without whose life named mother that sell what I do not. I take your point. I don't wanna be scolded by left or right, but I'm still much more worried about original recipe. Puritans than than leftwing puritan particularly where I'm not take away the ones who have our. I mean that's I'm not because those people never affected my life. I didn't care about the gay tela tubby

when jerry Folwell attacked it, I'm not into the basil, controls the supreme court right. I want to see the Jamie fox movie. That's my life fact is great. It's about time. You gotta directors job make his own Well, we he finally did it with Robert downey he's great too. I'm sure this movie is fucking awesome, it's funny, because a small group of people, it's your opinion, you think asserts eminent tmz, say well, the movie looks bad, it doesn't. It looks fucking great yeah, but why should your opinion control? What I say I agree, but my concern is that this is much more widespread. You know who who's who's, taking the books out of the libraries right now, who's, taking out

tommy's to Mommy's and the diary of an frail are going to go to the world already bird, whose taking out the case- and I mean this- is decided by partisan phenomenon, now we're eyes area within or and two beaches point, which is very eleven years an element of condescension here who has power in the height? The commanding heights of culture is not the right. It is the level when it who have a condescending? There already have the supreme court, who can actually exhortatory doesn't make movies or capital that separate I'm. You know orwell had it a little wrong? It's not the government. That's big brother social media. That's the supreme court. Has this, of course, certain powers, I mean obviously affecting people from having sex right now that well, there's researching abortion. I dont bigger wells ex. Quite yet,

I mean the states are: are going to carry that through to restricting concert contraception access? Well, we hope not possibly, yes, there's all sorts of not to want to do all sorts of things. Let's stick to what's really happening. We have taken away abortion rights, that's right! Okay, but again doesn't affect my. I ain't gettin in my brain, I wanna be emphasised. I mean it does affect millions of people's eyes does is wrong, but we're talking specific thing. Why can't we? Just? Why did we I have to go to the what about them? Yes, we're emitted in the first minute. Here there are still. The tellers they people out there, but this is a whole separate thing: that's real and going on, There was an axiom, pull this week, self, silencing there's what they're calling it now that most amount guns are self silencing here's one example. Forty four, Democrats publicly say

Let's see, owes should get involved with making stands in with their company about social issues, only eleven percent privately and how they got that because its private, but that's what they printed. Ok, this kind of gap is not good for a country where people there is this quiet, resentment and you're right, there's probably more important things going on on the right that are actually scarier, but emotionally, these kind of things effect is it's obnoxious to be told what you can see and think The nepal is disturbing, but we don't actually know that people are self censoring more today than they were in the palestinian that that's always.

In the case that you know, people have their inner monologue around or monologue and people do vote with their wallets such a thing as moral merch, which is literally wearing your politics on your sleeve. That used to be an expression that describe trite and shallow political values. It is now how you are expected to navigate society to wear a unit. that reflects who you are what you believe too. in your subordinate. This is all sort of eleven rejected? I don't love until I saw no way, I mean how could people not be self censoring? Where did you hear about the station nineteen story this week? If you don't know what this is, I did not it's. A thunder rhymes show about a firehouse okay, so it's one of the characters is racist,

and they had the character in an outline using a racist term for latinos. I'm not going to step in it and quote it, and it's a word. I don't think people should use, but it's a racist character. How else do you depict character? I mean all in the family. Archie bunker. Where's the people where sophisticated than they understood dire. We whitewashing the racists. That's that's an excellent question like how How would you do world war? Two movies going forward of the nazis. Gonna be nice to the Jews. Now it's like you have to trade, the ugliness. What british that show they closed the whole showed down because of a single word. Talk spoken by a character, not one of the writings death, a character they and here's this we will not be meeting creatively. This is their statement, Should we email, we will not proceed.

With business as usual until the recent harm and systemic issues have been addressed and healing has begun and closed build it. What like it was a reactor leak. What they sound legionnaires in the building they had to close to her. How can it three survive with people on the level of this kind of fragility? Of course, people are more aware: or whether it saying and afraid to talk, but I can't I would money down that none of them actually believes their colleagues in the writers room are ticking time. Of violent bigotry, they're afraid that you might be sap that you are, and you can't be permitted to explore exposed. To that cultural stimuli, urban trigger you, it's it's a condescension in part also, if fragility but a condescension about everybody else who might be exposed to this are and what they might think- and I think some of that sum virtual signalling to write people want to show that

expanded to get you know kudos with their but their peers. They want to show that they are offended on behalf of the people. Who should be offend, but there's currency there and that's part of the plants cycling, but is actually only permissible reaction. Now is over reaction. That's the only way you stay. Here's another story I wrote about: there was a progressive summer camp outside of san Francisco called hidden villa okay, so they closed down because of what they said was structural racism not heard that exact term. You know it is a tile. This camp is built in nineteen. Thirty in by somebody who was buddhist and as the swastika in the title, which was assembled throughout history way before the nazis used it. Obviously, there are reasons now why we wouldn't suggest using it but it was there from nineteen thirteen before the nazis.

Ok, so many sought they had issued fit the people at the camp, which of course, will take the title. not good enough. They call it that every progressive camp counselor quit and now this care that was doing a lot of good for a lot of kids. It's closed it! It's insanity or it's how you community. your zeal for the cause around. That's what I might even new puritans, but you are you're you're from your current road, promoting itself as being most committed by cutting off not only your enjoyment but other people's enjoyment. Your contorting yourself. oath zealously. For that and it gets you, a lot of points is happening said it does help you in a social dynamic, but it certainly does deprive us of something enjoyable. this case it does anybody ever asked these people, who are you actually helping?

So what is your answer to fix this problem that you write about in your book? Well, very simple recommendation is for all of us to have the courage to laugh at that which is objectively hilarious Some of these anecdotes are just funny and you're doing god's work here by actually laughing at them. The second is commercial. Do god's work, I get it. I was unintentional that it will take it, and the second is commercial pressure is among one. That anecdotes that I bring to bear in the book is the story of banned in Boston, banned in Boston, late nineteenth century was this harassment against impure literature and was very effective, but it eventually destroyed itself by becoming an advertisement for really leading literary experiences you had to have for yourself, so publishers tried to get their books banned in Boston, to get sales increase in the rest of the country

you won't get this movie released in a major. You know a distribution company won't take it, you release it independently, it gets attacked and all of a sudden, it gets much more play. Conservative books banned on amazon banned on facebook. What have you by really overzealous twentysomething sensors, have wild coming she'll experience. Success that appear campaign wooden justify its it advertises this sort of thing and breaks down this. The structuring- and I mean there are plenty of people who have gotten cancelled, who probably make more money post cancellation and pray cancellation. Parents actually this phenomena little. Please careful my book, my cool people I can think of who I will not mention on- why Why are you there making money you have speaking career, to our going around. I mean going back to like again this. This predates the exactly twenty twenty two, but like a mile, Milo monopolise, you know right, like his career, was built on people protesting him saying that they are

want him to speak and college students. You know interrupting speeches. How does draw up more business by by getting a tat worked for a time. It was lazy and I think trying to any did show green and the and the next day they cancel this book contracting speaking tour. He never worked again You're welcome. Rethinking the cancelling about moving again had sunlight is the best is infected. So one of my favorite departments on this show is called a twenty four things. You don't know about me and we thought we would bring it out this week because Alex Joe designed, those you know he got here. He lost his little case. There. And has to pay. I think forty five point two million dollars to the sandy hook victim, so we thought this would be a good way to bring out twenty four thing.

You don't know about me alex. I oppose abortion because I like to see suckers born every minute and I've been finally penetrated by alien, so many times I carry lube. My fear here at the diary of Anne frank, is nothing more than a nasty european bee review. My voters, I onions and a handful of unmarked medication. I belong to camouflage that works so well. I can't find it anywhere in high school hours voted most likely to succeed.

I believe the moon landing was real but not dig. What's that land mines, agree name is miss information I mentioned, and the model of the primary season is winding down. This is where we picked for kick you kids at their own power politics too closely. It's a lot like sport. You gonna win in your car,

inference before you go on to the big game right, okay, so this is primary season where we picked the people from each party who then meet in november when we have our big primary midterm election. So I mentioned this to eighty five percent of the people, trump endorsed one one hundred and fifty one out of one. Seventy eight say what you want about mister April, but boy what politicians I mean that's impressive in an evil way, but still press and less. It is so and there's ten members of congress who voted to impeach him and he vowed to knock them off it. So

tarantino movie, he's going to get all ten. He got eight out of the ten for four quit because they knew they'd lose and four lost. The two who won the two who's withstood this all. They were both in something called an open primary and that's what I want to ask you to about an open primary. The way we do it now is the Republicans run only with republicans voting, so the biggest nuts come out and vote for the biggest nut and the Democrats have their version of that they're, not as nutty. But it's you know you just wind up with people who are the most fringe of each side. When primaries, which we don't have much, but we have an these two places. Anybody from any party can get in, and then you appeal to appeal to more moderate voters. Is this not a fix for much of what else? I think it's very help. it's not gonna fix everything the people who show up to the point

areas in other, usually more. The more extreme voters like if you have enough craig people running in the primary. You can still get for people who make it through the junk. What's called the jungle primary in and get to the general, but he s too, that's gotta change. The jungle. Wars are cold, It's not a name. That's going to attract people dynamic. and so gino how it got that moniker? I don't know either I'm very skeptical that this is going to be the panacea that a lot of it's advocates think it is, for example, washington state has this primary system and jaime herrera beutler butler? Who was one of these impeachment votes? She lost the top two vote. Getters are

usually the incumbent and the challenger democratic and republican and a complex ephi, is a process that doesn't need to be more complicated than anything. That's not most votes wins is more complicated than that and the idea that it'll, somehow rid us of the passions of the populace, just isn't borne out by this primary cycle. Well, there are problems in the said: there's a er open primary with three democrats and two republicans. If the three democrats split the vote and all together got fifty nine percent, none of them would make it to the final two, because none of them got more than when he percent, whereas the two republicans got together forty one percent, so they got twenty point four, and that can happen in a democratic district can, but couldn't you make a law about that and say, but you can't totally misrepresenting the will of the people. There's gotta be a better way.

Did you do with the way we do? Our joy is not working. I can be other the other interesting thing that is the case I can in alaska is that, in addition to the jungle primary, they are also doing brink choice, voting for general, which basically means like whoever. If, if nobody gets a majority of the votes, then the person with the fewest boats, whoever and whoever voted for them. Whatever they said, their second choice was those boats get those votes get reallocated and things like that- and I think that's also really valuable. A lot of states are doing that now at least we're experimenting yeah, since nineteen sixty eight, the parties have been sacrificing more of their influence over this process and giving it small d democratic reforms that make the voters much more, have much more control over the process and it's gotten much crazier as a result of broadening that process. Maybe open primaries are part of it, but I also think the parties need to exert a lot more influence than they have been in weeding out that candidates that maybe

appeal to the populace, but are otherwise unacceptable to a party that has one goal and us to get people elected sunday. Hardworking of the republican party needs to anymore in the battleground states. And again, we were almost at the end of the season is a few more stage the boat, but we pretty much can say what's happening in the battleground states. Ok, the ones that are important people don't believe Biden won the election who deny that he won the election, let's call them election deniers they want two thirds of the time and problem yes, I mean in the end I think actually the list cheney example is a really instructive. One right because

it is a died in the war conservative? She is far right on social issues on economic issues on foreign policy, the only issue on which she disagrees with other republicans is in an election. Does the person who gets the most votes win? That's the only issue in which in which she disagrees with the rest of the Hoboken party and the rest of the party is more concerned about. You know basically protecting trumps criminal enterprise than than protecting against small d. Opera, see, but what we and that's why you see in these other candidates working in these other races? It's not because their conservatives, it's not because the running on conservative plan There are no platforms thereof, on trump. So what does it mean spoken conceit of the two thousand and twenty election fraud idea. Is that republicans don't to lose elections, so they were erected. This narrative that they didn't actually lose. The election we could see weakening of this a little bit just pulled that donald trump and a populist aspect of the republican party has over the primary voters.

Will republicans leave a lot of is on the table in twenty twenty two there, a bunch you said eighty five percent lot of those candidates are. really unpalatable to a general electorate, arizona, georgia, ohio, ohio is competitive. Ohio shouldn't be competitive. It was always competitive. It was known as the bell whether something of eight eight points about what you said was never was ever competitiveness. We always stay near growing ever way of highly when I went hated with Missouri. What way outside the round? The right of any old missouri is gone but ohio, but so they happiness or if republicans leave a lotta race, is on the table that could have won the the elect ability. Argument gets another, never look, ok, but do we really think that these people really think the trump won the election? I don't I fell out of it. I don't, I think, what they think is. I can't let these crazy.

people take over the country. Men can't get pregnant, you can take over the country, that's what it actually so much of this insanity that we were talking about a little while ago going on that they're like yeah. I know trumped didn't win, but I can't let you take over the country, that's really what's going on in their head and if I have still it's a little bit of if I have to burn the village to save it that didn't work for the village. it didn't work into the village or be it, but that's kind of weather had no fear. Yes, I have to destroy Microsoft received to save it. To save america. I think some people are things.

it's cynically that way. I think there are true believers out there who who actually think I think most of them live at mar a lago. The little bit of news is that the president signed bills, the other day, extending statute of limitations for investigating the fraud from the cupboard money. No back in April. We did a piece here, a very long piece because it needed it. I thought about how much money was stolen covered money, because we did write checks, for I think five point seven trillion dollars when the forever flow hit. Ok, so we can argue about whether that was an appropriate amount. I think it might have been a little high, but what really

This is me off. Is that so much of it was stolen and that's what I was talking about an april. Some of these numbers might have been, might be a little out of date since then, but unemployment insurance for people, eight hundred and seventy two billion went out the door they estimate. Maybe up to half was stolen the people again very unfortunate phraseology in that party, that was the paycheck protection programme. Ok, this small businesses trying to cover their employees, who are now out of work and only a quarter paid wages that would have otherwise been lost, and this is the question I asked back in April and I'm going to ask it again. It doesn't really make me a conservative. Does it that I don't want to be absolutely robbed blind. Is there some number at which I go? You know what you are

taking my money and wasting it and letting people still it I mean I get the get the idea that money can never be transferred, except in a leaky bucket. I accept that, but this isn't a bucket anymore. It's just the handle The issue. Is the bucket was designed to be leaky that leaky, stalwart. Well, this is what I mean government is. Functional, whereas dysfunctional as we design it to be and government was designed to be dysfunctional. It was for this does not repeat. Ppp stands for paycheck protection programme, but he said what that man was. It was supposed to keep people continuing to get their pay checks. Even as companies had to shut down or lay off workers or whatever the problem is? The government does not know who is getting a paycheck from whom and who stopped getting a paycheck? The government should know these things because

companies pay taxes. They pay payroll taxes, but the problem is government restructure socks and there are using software. That's from the disco era I'm not kidding, and so what happens is the databases can, to each other. You know that the software is really antiquated, so we have to rely on the honor system, essentially we're companies say, look When I need this money, I promise you pinkies swear, I'm going to use it to keep people employed and they didn't madame dead, but a lot of them did a lot of them are not real companies like we're, not worm, I'm sorry. We can't be on the honors of them it's just other. Other countries have figured out how to invest in good government and state capacity in germany. Didn't do this, for example,

Germany knows who works for whom it, as our government should worse, germany and I pushed out the money really money through firms directly to employees. They spent a lot less per employee and they kept more people employed. If we wanted to, we could invest in good government, but we I've systemically decided not to partly because it's like not sex, They talk about government, I t occur and partly because that way you know the what I thought the governor. I thought the Democrats were the were the good government party. Why don't they do it? I get it. The republicans want to strangle it in the bathtub yeah, but why? Why isn't the other party? And why aren't the republicans are supposed to be? Where the mean old man and watch your money? Why don't they do their part? Nobody does any of their part. So the government is designed to be dysfunctional and then

look, it's point. Let me say a high its dysfunctional advertisements for government lets. You cut their funding, so they're more dysfunctional. This is and can actually less excited about the money there planning to spend. I say a lot about the the funding that we just gushed out of this country in march of twenty twenty two and subsequently again and twenty twenty one february, twenty twenty one. You can't say that the consequences of rushing money out the door with very limited oversight were not anticipated. They were anticipated. We knew that this would be a a font of fraud and abuse and that the government would have to come back up and can clean it up prosecutors. This is the prosecutor, paycheck protection act and congress congress has to engage in oversight here. It's not enough for inspectors general to get engaged and say well. This agency spent seventy five billion dollars on something we don't know where it went. Congress has to go back and conduct its its proper role of overseeing its own activities, the monies god you're, not getting the.

Brain outlined. My concern as when, when there is another crisis or recession- and there will be- the choice will be between- I guess we shouldn't give people the help that they need because look at all the fraud. Last time like we clearly didn't know how to get it to the right people or, let's helicopter, drop more money and hope it. Some of it and in the right place, because I mean that's basely would happen before, because No you get to be this shitty country that we can do anything. I don't. I write well out an investigation into what a bit americans are very little tolerance for this investigation into waste and abuse in during world war. Two made her eye agreements career right. This is sort of thing that americans were awarded a john look rightly on people who abuses the urgent crisis. We did used to be able to do it. Thank you panel. You are

It's the all. You know your dreams of hollywood stardom are over when he only job you can book. Is these stock photo of a guy? Looking at his desk with a magnifying you can't control yourself with the line. There are no small part, only small actors neural the people would giant outdoor just boards have to tell me one thing why? How does that make chest better now hurry up and make your move I wanna go inside and from my tree neural. Someone must make a monkey parks vaccine that you take with paupers

I want to make gay sex safer, make it more intense at the same time- and let's not be woke about this rush, this vaccine, the community, whose sexual behavior obviously puts them most at risk- the clergy neural michael's flynn must explain why he keeps drifting diehard trump supporters when it could be making more money on capture. as these surly chief, who says mccoy of the case. I want your badge in anything. tvs, geronimo make you more relate of load from supporters, and you also have your own trailer euro? Someone must tell every day vietnamese cuisine. Thank you.

Tough economy, where restaurants will do anything for business, you're, willing to say nothing special here ever day vietnamese cuisine located in the corner every street and who gives a shit boulevard the blizzard today or not, who gives a fuck laughs and my finally new rules since america is such an incredibly fucked up place right now, let's scale back our goal of making great again and settle for less just make the mall great again Just start with that, get a w and I'll tell you it's actually a bigger win than you might think, because online shopping is killing us psychologically and invite

Finally, I just wonder why shopping through the male didn't become so big until this century? Of course, the internet and smartphones made it easier but the sears catalogue was founded in eighteen. Eighty seven, it was amazon, just amazon that never grew could have been getting everything in the mail a century and a half ago, and often with a better reason, do because their work or cars that made into the store so easy. Why didn't they? I don't know lately I've been seeing a lot of stories about how isolated and lonely people are. Maybe it has something to do with that in the golden age of the mall, it was often called america's town hall, as market places have always been the same

to rub society- yes, ours was a little tacky, but it was better than this turns out. Ordering online is way more. Echo unfriendly then drive did the store ever was. How could it not be? considering that americans, now shop by the most inefficient means humanly possible, since we can't get our ass to go, try something on and see how it actually, and looks and feels we order nine and sent back eight Give any idea the ecological should show that cause just by making people chauffeur your pants all over town. You know back when people still went out before bricks and mortar stores were just for short

Lifting people didn't job every day. Now they ve made these things called shopping lists. Words that corresponded to items they needed and then they went to the store or mall and gathered all of these items on the list. At one time,. As opposed to how we do it now we're robots and humans who are treated like robots pack, your little bag,

crunchies in a box, the size of the doghouse and deliver it to your home, along with three other giant boxes, each containing one item to how can you have a thousand types of shoehorns, but only three sizes of boxes to put them in the cafe or do we think all that packaging goes. We staff it in blue bins, like it's a portal to plastic Heaven, but only fourteen percent of it is actually recycled. The rush goes into landfills incinerators and the ocean in twenty two thousand nine america's most successful investor Warren Buffett? When big on railroads- and When said operate, you must be senile, come on we're living in the age of streaming in a high and google glasses and robots dogs, rail route

and Warren said yeah. But after all of you are done clicking to get your garden weasels and avocado slicers. The something has to actually get into your door. For some reason, people just don't trust a condom made by a three d: printer, the good luck with doge coin. So listen to this there's a vaping device for pot that I mean a friend of mine, shaft uses, which has a feature that allows you to turn it on from an app on your phone. even though it has a button right on the side that works just now, I'm not knocking this thing. I like it, I'm just.

Not naming it on t v because well, if you want the benefit of advertising, I have a podcast and the ad team would be happy to take your call anyway. The point is anyone under thirty who sees the app feature, thinks it's the eighth under the world, because it doesn't work the old timing way by pushing a button, it so cool, because it's on the phone, hey kids get a fucking coup? Does it make if we think we're super technologically advanced? We push your button, but every time you click buy it. Now a tree gets its wings. I know we don't want to think about the kids that make it or the truck that brings it or the landfill where it ends up. We just want that t shirt that says mindful.

No. It's also easy. You put down the picture of a hot dog. Toaster appeared at your door, ready for you to talk in the garage but it didn't come without cost. If came across the pacific on a diesel powered cargo monsters viewing sulphur, I just downloaded shopping app than the united states. This is a chinese company called gene which produces six thousand new styles a day and ships them direct from their warehouse and gone down to the twenty two year old. In your basement, is there an influence or she and is part of a new industry called fast fashion, which specializes in clothing? That will absolutely positively fall apart? If you so,

Just look at it wrong and that deliberate these closer made cheap, real, cheap The flimsiest materials, because apparently now Genji and millennials like to buy clothes, wear them once and throw them away. The average? U s! Consumer now throws out eighty pounds of clothing each year I hear lot about how my generation has ruined the environment. I don't think it's. My generation is doing this and for what You can hear someone say nice dress. Is that paper the cdc made it official last week. We don't have to stay six feet, part anymore. You're free to move around the country were no longer on act. Sneezer alert.

And they ve turned off the titan. Your asshole sign go out and play go to the more our social skills or atrophy while we one click ourselves into oblivion, amazon's in its pro and but you're wasting yours. Alright, that's our show I'll be calling buffalo october, ninth or hulu in new york city november twelve and at the foxwoods casino in mashantucket, connecticut november thirteenth. I want to thank Noah rothman catherine rampell and bj Novak now go to youtube and join us on overtime. Thank you. The more information log onto each b, o dot com,