Overtime – Episode #382 (Originally aired 03/25/16) - Bill and his roundtable guests Cory Booker, Jerrod Carmichael, Ian Bremmer, Jennifer Granholm and Reihan Salm answer fan questions from the latest show.
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Welcome to reach me, apart from HBO real time, we're back. We we're gonna get to Cuba and we re at a time when I know you want to disagree with me. I don't even know what I'm going to say:
Well, I wanna hear what do you have to say? Well, I mean, I think I said the monologue we we have somewhere in this regard. We have stood with worse dictators and in Cuba in the Freedom Watch list is sixty second out of a hundred and seventy seven countries, one being the worst yet so it's it's behind China. I think I ran Egypt, which is not a great place to be, but it ahead of a number of our allies like Bahrain and Saudi Arabia. So I guess where I'm coming from is that the United States has all the leverage in this situation and, if you're, looking at what role Castro's plan is, I believe the plan is not to do with China and Vietnam have done not to have a kind of basically move away from a socialist economy. I believe they're looking to Vladimir Putin there looking Dick Chavez has then is
They want to have sham elections that he wants to install his son or his son in law and power and we're allowing that to happen. Now we have all the leverage, I believe we should open up to Cuba and I believe we should normalize relations where we can. We can demand a lot more because there is the most vulnerable oil we were going on for fifty years ago. It hasn't been going on because what I'm saying is actually we should open up, but we can now demand more from them in terms of how they treat their cells and also having an open and competitive political. These things take time of receipt, extracts its weak, but why we're net?
the leverage than we do right now. News is up to Russia in Venezuela for exactly ass for cash. Now I can't their ninety miles away. That's loam the world's largest economy, and if they opened the door a little crack we're gonna overwhelmed and there I will marry a comfortable that in five years time be as eyes. You ve gone by three years as well as I that, when a look, TAT, Ralph Castro, he spoke to the cuban people talked about democracy and that's the first Castro family. There not idiots, they know what they're doing they have given us a lot of thought and if they believe that unionist right maidens, they have a plan b. That's my point. Their plan b is sham elections in twenty eighteen. It's all ready to either we can't make everybody in the world do everything we do. Of course we can make out what to do.
Of course we can. But the point is that why surrender all of your leverage when they are at their weakest noise are enabling all we urge were trailing them, you can never. We can never were drawing something and if it four terms is different from acting from the one that didn't work for sixty fucking years. A crazy idea is, we have one day care to offer. That is normal as relationships and actually offering them the huge economic opportunities that annulling the embargo would be another big carrot. Yeah we're not do in that, even though most Americans are for doing normalizing relations is a rather big thing and having Starwood and having air being be signed, deals in getting hard currency into the hands of the regressive Amorrhites James, they gonna star words, gonna, be there they're going to meet him and dying working, that's working Putin's Russia, that's worked, you know that's going to work in IRAN, I mean that's gonna work and all the other authoritarian countries where they figure to their smart to bill their strategic to these. Given this some thought,
They think they're gonna come out ahead and I think they're, probably right with that said, do any of you have a good cigar connect. That's just what I care about is what are the chances of delegates turning on Trump, if there is a brokered convention in July and then pretty good, very good to me, I mean anyone's and who those delegates their work, and I am now everybody on the other team. Are you in the? U S prevailing, I'm not a super delegation. I wouldn't be on that side, but I know that they are working now for the dumber grown up you're, not a sober telling my used to be when I was governor venom. Delicate down at just one recently, I either citizens, while Bunbury surprised, will the new voter Idee laws being introduced in key states across the country influence the outcome of the election fuck? Yes, yes,
and, like you, did in Arizona as everybody. Who was why, at what I that our go total fiasco, they went from two hundred polling sites to sixty and a heavily latino county by to wait in line for five hours. Wouldn't it be great if the Supreme Court just once went, we got this role, will do Rights ACT, we thought America was better than it was and it turned out. We could not have been more wrong. Is there any argument under this? Their problem is that when we talk about a voter idealized, you ve got very different laws and different states. Some of those Laws- Pennsylvania, for example- that's a really bad law, but then, if you're, looking at Rhode, island you're, looking at tendency, you're looking in other states there, not all the same. So the problem is when we talk about it problem is when we talk about a voter, Idee laws, but a bunch of different provision. The rules- and I am all for lifting millions states since two thousand and ten have adopted more restrictive, make it more difficult to vote laws. Twenty one states have is over the first presidential election for sixteen of those states are largely in the south, are largely trying to have
Minority took with pointed unclear points. One is this: is a solution looking for a problem, it doesn't exist in any guys. Tricking votes is bad, but the but the unspoken truth. It's happening America and the one the biggest disenfranchisement we ve seen since we were fighting or the admin, testbridge and others were fighting on. The voting rights is disenfranchisement, is going on of people who ve,
convicted of nonviolent drug offences. We right now have a country where the drug war, the drug war, is not a war on drugs is war on people, particularly poor people, vertically minorities, and so now you have a nation where you have swing states like Virginian Florida, where one out of every five african Americans has lost their right to vote, and so we have this outrageous reality in this country. Right now we're a prison population. Since nineteen eighty has grown five hundred percent federal prison, popularly eight hundred percent, more people in jail today for non violent drug offences and all the people in jail for nineteen. Seventy, five being locked up for doing things last to President said, they're doing and now there in a second class citizenship, a caste system, but they can't get jobs. They can't vote, they can't get a pale grants. They can't get food stamps, they can't get housing a public housing are they ve entered the caste system.
It's an affront to democracy, because, basically, what we're doing is millions of Americans were cutting them out, taking away their voice and their participation in our countries? Oh yeah, what a set of rules for agreeing on Zan who are seeking to reforming this ought not at heart, and it is on partnering on legislation with everybody, from allies from the coat brothers to others, trying to fight something. This system is completely broken up. Some of the greatest tragedy is going one in our country. Right now is that what we are doing to entire communities, like the one that I've lived in for the last twenty years is, were devastating these communities a chance for an african american of your rested in by the way, no difference between blacks and whites for using drugs. No difference for dealing drugs over some studies show that young white men have a higher rate of dealing drugs in blacks, but an african American will get arrested for drug cries about four times more than one. This actually make communities more dangerous. That's the really scary thing is: if you wanna tough on crime, it turns out that actually using the conservation too much you actually
change the dynamics of the communities in ways that make them more dangerous for the people who live there, and that is really really bad eyes to deal drugs or do I did not deal drugs deal drugs drug was it ever deal drugs number back, motherless known as an excellent bagger. You use a deal: Drugs Owen College. Yes, well, yes, yes, I was going to say just I was going to say just part, but that would be a lot and when I got out of college it was just a college. It was whatever my dealer, so you would you buy from your deal. You're like a middle, you buy from your deal, earned its other, that's not very nice. I thought of myself. As an entrepreneur who has always this now, what is it goes onto they look I with one eye I would to stamp out there's no, I got your college will there's an oyster
he's gonna kill you. If you paid, you went through college student, drugs- yeah- that's maybe I'm gangster now, but for the record, for the record, stillness like is on the right yeah China alone you gang survived, though you gangster or gangs in bremmer off basin, suggesting that the Eu S rethink its involvement in NATO. You know what must ask indifferent russian. It close to the Trump said this week that he was not putting nuclear weapons off the table. Dealing with agents could we need to be unpredictable
You know you had me a trump, a nuclear weapon. I mean that's crazy thing to say. Well I mean I would say number one Trump slogan is not make Amerika great again. It's America first and its let's find everyone else to blame. Mexicans are gonna come to rape. Are women? Japanese chinese robbing as blind Europeans are taking advantage of our goodwill on security Muslims, we're all gonna blow us up. That's that's a problem right you see that with NATO as well, but I have to say at least from my perspective, I think the likelihood that Trump actually could win a general election. Given the astonishing negatives he has among young among women, just normal Americans is, is really really low. I know we're talking about it because we have to and entertaining, but I just
entertaining. He could be the republican nominee and probably will be, and by the way in this country the Republican can always win. You know they always said. Well, you know the Republicans are losing minorities losing women. Yet Never try to raise were election. They never like really roused up those people who, when you lift up the rock you find out, what's lived in this country and a bomb a god like forty, something per cent of the white vote against Mitt Romney trumps, gonna get more guy in that very he's. A diversion lunchtime percentage points behind Romney among white voters, but what I will say, I'm Trump is yes: in a general election year,
well behind Romney, among so many other initiatives, you're gonna blow to the NATO. That's what I thought why this? No, I don't think you will move to the Middle North. He doesn't know how to do here and we know how to adjust. I think that the issue we are my TED nanos are going to try to see that no no trundle teddy will know how to move to the little girl surrounding world knows all new ones. Being. Oh, no, he will say stop. That is appealing not obligated to be consistent, no one, it's not exactly right. Seventy percent of women, for example, can't bear the thought of voting for Trump and a general election. All women.
He's gonna say but he's gonna he's gonna, try to figure that out. Member he's super Smarty went toward and that's how he is going to try to figure out a language that makes them more palatable to groups and he's gonna. Do that and that's what he might do as I have done that, would you like? I will stand up serious blow to the morning, one neuron where he got more reasonable, how lady LISA, you know what I think, I'm gonna be says that he doesn't want to see poor people out in the street. He doesn't. He wants to have health care for everyone, and then he said that radio. I said the thing about trade, which is a democratic position often, and he thinks that we should be creating jobs in America. He has sent stuff. That is appealing to to my side of the aisle. I fails HIV yeah I mean he will he will its right of minorities kind, occasionally incapable of not doing create Lebanese in front of a camp right? That is the they tell uprising reading from a teleprompter ending, we saw him being disciplined right
happen wondered I'm going out. They fucked it up anywhere tat. One thing: when woods: interests involved from of nervously way, people scramble before. Ever seen like White America really like confused and like what the fuck are. We gonna do it's very interesting area. Three like Donald Trump I've. Compare Donald Trump to me is is like White Hurricane Katrina we didn't realize it was gonna, be the levies of broken and everyone is panic. Right now, and it's very its interest and watch but there's a reasonably worth reviewing and promote our old transmitted by a bigger ones. Do you know they good manners of drugs or anyone else
What's the matter is I mean it definitely met? I'm just saying it's an intriguing thing to watch Le Mei think you know, I've had a healthy mistrust of literally every candidate that ever existed in my lights on, he's in the pile with me of Amr with Obama. Unless we were all very excited There were young we're excited, we are very happy and until Corey runs, eurobonds is good. I went back and I was a child and say that these are the days were I'm gonna run, but not this way for something more like from something where you gonna give the white people return and
fuck it up and then you're gonna be like come on so abominable is bringing you miss the first hand. I want to show you. You said that this policy gives this thing right. You know what this joke digging to think that these black eyes are good. At this thing, I could ask a blog about two years later Software Bank Joam, you mentioned we haven't, had a watch him. Any more commission, not mind each be oh dot. Com.
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