Welcome to an h b, o podcast from the h b, o latency and real time with bill Maher worked for overtime are doing it. First of all, thank you for coming back. As I know you were, I don't see how it goes quite as a republican I gotta say, is a rising star in your party in the long run. Ok, alright! So first question is for you: what's the role of government in policing, big tech? Oh, that opens up a can of worms. You're right about that. In your book I hear you're all well over the boy. That's something people on both sides can agree about. I think, to a degree of enthusiasm. Big tec is duly punished. Power too

and too little privacy. So what is the role of government to police? Then? Where were we? We often talk here about this thing? Is it? Is it more like the post office is more like a utility or it's newspaper? What is a little bit more like a utility? And you know this is not typical of republican approach to things, but I don't think the antitrust laws are sufficient to deal with this problem because, as you say, it's not just market power, it's privacy and and the control of speech censorship, and I think congress is going to have to intervene and pass a statute that targeted those problems and what do they on? What's in the bill, I mean what is that?

Where are the main problem comes in his back everything's? Their needs do something to be done, but how do you do tat? And I think that the scale of actions are usually earthworm begin on giving private companies free rein? Personally, I think they have it, except in certain areas say we regulated eighty cable companies, networks, telephones, you're all further their certain times where its require its necessary. I am an end. What I think we should do here is skinny down these companies by requiring them to divest some other come to companies that they have acquired. That could be competitors from face.

It would have to give up and instagram google would have to give up. You too has now here at the coming, but when I saw the news that facebook and instagram are now going to allow you to show a bare breast, but only if its gender, or not with reports of and make this shit up yeah. I know I'm not even alright and then that, while I thought as to ask congress to be weighing in on this thing, you've got members of congress, I'm not all, I'm I'm a techie myself, but that don't even know how zoom Arta, login. It's not that ugly making the rules for these things. They don't understand that the technology, sometimes this is for you- trump- will make his first twenty twenty four campaign- appearance, oh and your home state of south carolina. Did you know that?

I will not be there, but will you I got. I have something else gone on that day, even though we learn of my thing is, I hope, there's a a big deep. Why bench in twenty twenty four, I want to see a vigorous primary ip who hosting a bunch. Canada forms we're gonna cocktails with the candidates for twenty four, I will see women on the ticket. I want to see that a little more diversity on our side has been a hundred years, since women got the right about where are our republican women and may need to run for president

I guess my computers. That does not mean that I have a few constituents. Actually TIM Scott Nicky Hayley, who, through the media they both live in the first congressional district already run for president, is exciting to see that in south carolina, but the last time Anyone from the? U S, house man for president that was abraham, lincoln lamb, no abe lincoln, running I ever that anytime soon by debt, but we have some exciting things happening in south great leaders. Could you could deftly beyond the took you like? Your brand is interested. Mind, spontaneous first social values.

yeah. You should see me in church yeah. Well, that's that's not going to help the question on the card was: will you endorsed trump? If he's the robots, always a question when you hear republicans on here right, that's just because I didn't write this, I'm just a I'm just the monkey, over time. As these are, these are the people the people want to know I mean it's so tough free I get one is actually has not tough, I mean I, I would love to see a big field we want to see a diversity of opinions. I have my own opinions on where the future lies Is it a unified we somebody's gonna, bring and not just republicans and conservatives independent voters growers?

will you and the independent voters want a home and if it's between Biden, anybody else and with anybody else at the end of the day, the floating crafts were here I mean I never would have thought Joe Biden was that scary, I mean we were just talking before the show and and about stuff that we're not crazy about with Joe Biden, and he certainly has not stuck the landing on all of it. But the fact that he Joe Biden, who not that long ago was just seen as a kind of a clubby politician who everybody could get along with. He wasn't great. The out there in any way that he is that much of a dracula, you guys you wanna, go time ever donald trump we already saw, is not just stupid but crazy,

Somehow, both the talking about getting or Biden won't even talk to republicans about budget reform. Right now- and we have this debt ceiling vote without any budget reform that should be a bipartisan, was writing love letters to the korean dude. The apples and oranges are talking about normal and I'm saying, but this is outside of normal and you've seen it it's not like it's new or he's going to change when he gets in office. We've had one term. This is twenty twenty three it's at twenty seventeen, it the non starter for me. I mean any party that nominates that man is not a party that should be in any sort of government positions. How do you- because I know you think I don't think the left is capable of really taking on drugs So so how do we? How do we? someone in the republican rice to replace drunk? We do have someone,

The second issue- you know you can say- also classes of is, but if you want to get a trump unita. You better place bets on him which is. Why was that rising? What you said you would combust if he asked you to begin its principal issues resulting from that we have been happy. I need the things by the: u s house go into the white house as at present, or vice president, since Abraham lincoln, and it just doesn't help. I am happily, the president of a variety of measures, but happy with an insane vengeful, pathological, crazy purse right like trump here, There are more than we ve already seen parity side by side, but we think that is the safe word for you guys. You already tried it again. We seen it, and I know you can't anything because when you're in the party, if you go pro across that line, then somehow europe

exit diary across that national remarried may long Republicans and survive a primary from general move on to boost the booms, both through simple. In a nutshell, I think, when the poor these are relatively close together, are in the same ballpark or in the same universe. Right character should count for much more than it does these days and its much easier to compromise, and I think the dynamic its governing here is that when you have a group its way out to the left open about fundamentally transforming the united states and so forth its hard to get compromise, because people thank there mate. Yeah, it's a slippery slope and they're dealing with potential armageddon, and that's also why they say: look if it comes between policy and character. On this case I'll go with policy. I mean, I think it's I I look. I mean we, you and I andrew. We both talk. If you write about it, I talk about it here on your podcast

it's there is something going on. That is very cultural revolution in china. Nineteen sixty six with the red card on the left there, just as there is the burden, is not in control of that. It's in control of him right right end and he doesn't even kind of realize what is what is going. That's my sense anyway, I like Joe Biden, but how can you not? How do you do I like job, I'm right. It is also its minos, evil individual hand. Writing ok, he's off as much as we as much as is I just wish you learn adventures. We acknowledge that is happening on the left. It is a slow and encroaching problem. Where's trump seems to be sort of immediate and existential, but let me ask the last question today: Andrew what should republicans and democratic

we doing differently to appeal to millennials and gen Z, and I think the Democrats have stopped trying to pander to them so much, because I think that suggests the party doesn't have it's own ideas about the world the kids like being pander to know that that is the fact that they can be grown ups. If you tell them that what you want to do in that agreement, they re without a bit telling it's not call up what they can see their one thing. They are good. At their media savvy and they can smell pandering when you do it in advertising. They hate it when they smell that out and I think they can smell that out and, as you said earlier, in the show they want to be led. They want somebody to they know their kids. You know when I was a kid I didn't want to be like kids, I wanted to be like johnny, carson and james bond no, I I get so what do they do? So one of the parties do not

I think the the main problem that the republicans have bought from trump, I think is- is the successful branding of them by the Democrats as racist, homophobic, old, all the things that the younger generation just over right, ah, and they don't have they haven't been able is in. Message of say. we believe that you should succeed in america, regardless of your background or orientation or race or color agree, as opposed to the erika saying. We want to succeed because right back right that's the way you wanna contrasted insult. We want to see one diverse, multiple for multi multiracial future based on individual rights, individual freedom, free speech and

the chaos of american culture. Let's, let's go for a marrow too scared right now and they ve been, I think, psyched out in thinking they can't embrace the cause of diversity is a different kind of Firstly, they need to embrace your party of the younger generation that doesn't seem to be too in love with you. We gotta stop acting like alpha hotels. I mean I know Ro in rome, delay was overturned. We just turn our backs on women across the country and that's an issue. I was raped at of sixteen the something I've been very passionate, I'm pro life, but I also see that we gotta find middle ground with america about eighty nine percent of people are in the middle and we've got to protect women's rights and the right to If there's a way to work together on many issues, cannabis is another one

canada's as another issue I have built on the states or for act that that that takes at issue and makes it in a way that's bipartisan. The republicans and Democrats can get on republicans and been the wrong side of cannabis. You'd been on wrongs roe wade we and birth control and gay marriage on these issues that are important, var mental issues, climate. What should the lobby for road rovers now that its turn back to this really I mean we could write a law now, which is what most other countries do. Am I right in most european countries have laws which are very often too right of where we were looking at them. We learn to resurrect way I'm we're talking about the russian germany, denmark, a liberal countries, but now that we good and probably will write a law about it. What should that law say because when you say we couldn't kindness but the difference, too hard thing to do as heroin are, it is a what is the law say that its abortion is legal, but only to twelve weeks or fifteen weeks or what

well. I think gestation limit should be part that conversation in Europe its if you're even allowed to have one it's twelve to fifteen weeks on average, would we weren't you you, while I mean for them, is rather a joint democratic at twenty four republicans or in congress prior at fifteen? Can you the twenty and meet the middle, but both sides have to be willing to work as legal right as well especially exceptions for re, and says life another futile abnormalities, those kinds of things, but before we even there? We can't even pass ledge I shall write our congress to give every woman access to birth control. We can't even do that and if you can't even do that, It's that saves lives at that fewer pregnancies mean fewer It wants and needs to have abortions. We have entire counties in south carolina or we will have a single o b doctor I mean in so like. Let's start, their list are worth birth control, making sure everyone has access to the yes. You could look like this.

to make the rules, and regarding these things, I'm perfectly happy. If they do, I think the federal government needs to stay out of this stuff. I never understood that the that something could be so high up on the moral totem paul as life were not life. Then, but let the states do not have a lot of north south and north carolina wants to kill babies that certainly find in north carolina, but it south carolina. We believe babies are I'd that and I think my mind their number to say nobody either it is there, it is, and how can it be us up to the stock? And how can you cross the line of one state to another and have something so fundamental change? It seems silly last year a couple of different people personally believe. What do I think, as a conservative, is a solution that will keep us it's a stable, a durable solution that will be a stable solution in this country and has to conform. Politics is not about

affirming tricked it's about finding a compromise between different opinions are not always going to mean on some of these questions like abortion, you're gonna have to live in a good cause rate which is violating other people. Have I let me some core feelings and beliefs of yours so get used to it. Learn to live with it accepted you know I I I you know I actually. I believe that the fetus is human life. I do understand that it's inside someone else's body- I do understand. I don't like governments telling people what to do inside their body. I also believe there are good faith disagreements. faith, disagreements about when human life, the argument person, and so we have to accept the belt that'll, be from the one thing I would say out, this discussion is is, and I'm the last presidential weathers you'll, never have anything to do with an abortion about is here

An exception I would make, is late term abortions, which are often used as a cultural. In this this war and they say you're you want there see what this its barber. You know, I think you make an exemption for women who find out very late in pregnancy that their baby or their child is incredibly. Has herbal de formative or or developmental issues or he's gonna live like a few minutes or right, and the question is: how do we humanely allow this child to die and and to come and that that is the need for the women involved? It's usually just horrifying. And the families is awful and to come in there and condemn people for making those decisions. I don't want to do that How do I much everybody? I told me when he said that we have every friday night watch any time each be removed the nation love and each be oh dot com.