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Cities are synonymous with the cities. They called home in Chicago Al Capone, LAS Vegas, bugs him alone in New York City, John Gaudy, in Cleveland. The nineteen seventy guide me
John Naughty. One could be on top, nor do very well connected gangs. Cleveland,
into the usual gangster, the stuff of making money, charting distortion protection, rackets
he's a mob associate would hopes are becoming a made man clean conducted into the crime for joy.
Capacity has been writing about gangsters and organised crime. Since the nineteen eightys. For now
It was a gangster. Jerry says he was not part of the Cleveland Crime, wise guys with cool
money. Any pays tribute to crime, firmly marshes for their protection. Nobody is beginning
to grow his power base in Cleveland, buddies
so given himself in the money, drop, he's a heavy gambler and sleeves.
To show more risky endeavours like major drug dealing as he looked to get a slice of the rackets around the same time in May of nineteen. Seventy six Johns couch the long time clearly
My boss dies naughty, feels user rights become the new leader. There s a real pie in the sky idea. He begins to see more power and a bigger slice
Ah, he begins forming alliances. What other gangsters? In a who, like him, outside the mobs in a circle and earning less money and respect? One of those cases is Danny. Green, Danny Green, like him, is a independent, violent gangster,
he's a loose cannon just like naughty. He refuses to bow down to the new mafia, administration and green. Doesn't just refuse to bow down to the new Mafia administration. He goes to war with them. Grains man, kidnap and kill the Cleveland family on the boss. This guy, the other boss, is second in command.
Also the cousin of the new de facto, my boss, the one green and naughty want to unseat there
Shooting war begins bombing
these bombings become almost a regular occurrence in Cleveland and nineteen. Seventy six and were recreated in Hollywood, film called kill the Irish hosted. The bombings are done by milk troll, the outsiders bombed the mob, guys in power, the mob, guys bombed and back back and forth back and forth. In this massive struggle for control of the Cleveland MOB, then one afternoon in May of nineteen, seventy seven John is working to his car. We push the button
he's blown up. He died soon after his rebellion. Certainly it turns out to be a very bad idea.
Three decades permanent member Cravens crime Syndicates was killed today by a ban directly ignition others these
They know more about organised crime figures slain in Cleveland this year too soon after his death, the Cleveland Mafia is broken up.
But there's a little known side story to Noughties murder after he died, his widow filled out an application for help from the state of Ohio from a pool of money called a victim's compensation fund
by its victims of crime and their families, with money for things like medical expenses lost wages and funeral expenses, every state has a fun like it.
John Artis widow instead collecting fifty thousand.
Others from Ohio, fun and voters. There was furious
How could a known mob family and getting all that money from the state in eighteen? Eighty two state law makers, bad people who had Phelan convictions from being able to use the phone, but it's not just people
with convictions, since nobody had never been convicted. Lawmakers also ban people with a preponderance of
evidence that they may have committed a crime. This law has had a lot of unintended consequences
and it has to do with the concept of coups victim and who gets to decide that were exploring on today. So we start with our partners the marshal profit,
The rapporteur, Eliseo Santer, has been investigating victim compensation funds for more than a year, and what we found is that not all victims are treated equally. She and producer Kate Osborne gets done.
In Ohio Salmonella second gear on its way.
Z in May and the sun is shining in Cincinnati Ohio. It's the
this spring day, where you wish you didn't have to go to work or to school. They could just sit on your ports, but
a cane I are going to spend the morning at a funeral home Tracy Battle and some three an immaculate three story house on this quiet block.
Come right in Linwood, high J
the battle and sons has been in business since nineteen, thirty, three Linwood and J C R, the third
generation of battles to run the place. Winwin
This job is more a calling. We are committed to taking care of families in the absolute worst day of their lives
That means counselling families through their grief, all the paperwork and the cost for customers were struggling. The brothers offer the battle special. You have Georgia for middle caskets, it
thirty. Two. Ninety five thirty two, ninety five about half
what a funeral normally costs that still
a lot of money for many families who are sometimes dealing with a sudden loss we further that he was a victim of chrome- is oh well, you might be
qualified to receive some compensation back from the same, the victim compensation fund. Every state has a victim compensation.
And most of the money comes from court fees, not taxes, but a lot of people don't know.
Money is out there. I didn't before us
working on this story. Sometimes people find out from their funeral directors
so happened with Caron Darling Givens the couple lives just fifteen minutes, west of Jason Battle and sons.
An area of Cincinnati called Price Hill. We just had a diverse. We made a fit to be thirty one years
Carl's and Seventys with a young face, he's
nineteen years older than Darlene she's, petite retired eyes.
The deep smile lines and her face can beam with light when she's talking about her son to MAR who they lost in twenty sixteen throughout his growing
children are always in our home because of GM more every day he
are you so wanted a door, as does the cloud the more fatal. I wish we d
to their neighbours. Love us, so many pay rise, wonder what they did to my ass.
Please could you relate.
The so many different people
everybody knew two more
I lived with his parents and brother crush on almost single family house on the corner of a busy intersection, Carl
darling, always worried about their boys telling says she had
bad feeling about certain parts of their neighborhood street she's.
As a rough and would tell your Marta steer clear
Coral and darling would constantly call her sons to see what they were up to, even as the boy,
became young men. Then one nineteen. Sixteen
tomorrow is twenty three years old, he didn't come home darling called he didn't answer. She left voicemail, I'm pride less person on the
or his phone, because I was college of more aware. Are you about the leaf or work? I need you to call me as soon as you get this
and I went on about my day at work and around ten o clock. My husband call and he was crying. So I get to the house and nearest like about a hundred people of surrounded by my house.
And he met me as I was getting out of the car and you senator sand. Something happened to MAR the police,
the given should come into the station docilely told his debt
and identified our sir and he was killed shot. He didn't suffer
I do know. His body was moved from where he was shot air and just down
area like he was a dog or something and left there. It was horrible!
unimaginable, told me tat. It was he'll need dignified and yet is identification in his pocket, and his
dental records. There was deaf me, you may just dropped a resistance shot can still a sharp were learning to bear is still very difficult to have today Toby and we came back home and to think about
The coroner had his body, so I had to call now so do we decided on a funnel home still dawn?
not even I, how is gonna pay for Addis DE nevers sure it's
So when the funeral director told darling about Ohio Victim Compensation Fund,
She was relieved there.
And right away months, passed
police charge, the man with the murder, they never did
covered the motive darling
There are some victim, but in July of twenty six team she got a letter from the victims, the crash stating that they did not pay for nothing. Can I guess why didn t I didn't know it.
Darling thought the funeral had already been paid for, not real,
I think that the processes lengthy and only covers reimbursement,
But she had gone to the battles for the funeral and didn't really understand the process. So I opened it
and I really didn't. I got to the middle part of it as it was blinding the love. This is how they told you right. Ok
Information we received by the attorney general's office shows that remark given was adjudicated the links
four aggravated robbery at first degree. Suddenly, on October, the EU two thousand and nine darling
This application was denied. Unfortunately, the state would not be paying for tomorrow's funeral the reason
that one thousand nine hundred and eighty two state law that bars Ohio from giving money to crime victims who have criminal records within the past ten years and Tamar had a record
found guilty in juvenile court. First part and robbery, a record that isn't supposed to find.
You into adulthood, but engine
hours case. It did meaning his family wooden
beginning any help you don't we
right now we're leaving paycheck glacier me eh
additionally, Ebay is rough. We could came meeting called
is to work full time for General motors when they still make cars in Cincinnati back in the early eighties. He picks up odd jobs, now darling
worth more than full time as a certified nursing assessed at source.
Ro regime, as were I just get associated. Jake was the money you know, and that's not the memory net that, as you know, in our salaries, that the greatest either
so you take like me some day. You know what a Dagon duty you nurse endeavours in making a billiard balls of pain.
I always knew that in some states having a record meant, you could be denied some forms of public housing or get barred from getting some jobs or loser
the vote, but I didn't
a criminal record could stop you from getting help. If you became the victim of a crime
Ohio attorney. Michael Downing has worked with clients like the givens. For decades we figured, he might be old works,
in the logic behind the law logic as no role in it. The logic is entirely political in my opinion, in that the legislature does not want
be perceived as giving away money to people who don't deserve it. I think the assumption is that criminals are criminal, sets a moral calculus Michael told us after decades. In practice he finally stop working with crime victims in part, because he was discouraged by the tough restrictions on the victim compensation fund. Some.
People when they get these letters feel that the state is telling me you don't deserve our help and note there right. That's what I say is telling us they're right. That's the state is telling them
when I first learn about Hylas law, I wanted to know exactly what the state was telling victim
then family members and how often
or being denied entwine seventeen Irene
out of the Ohio attorney General's office, which runs the fund.
Some for data and documentation about the denials. After all,
once a year. They finally handed over hundreds of letters along with the original applications. Here's what I found five hundred fifty two people were really
acted in twenty. Sixteen for criminal history. That's almost one fit
All the denials issued that year in all of those letters was Darlene. Therefore, why the attorney general of supplies with you for your louse? No, we work, can green and on this claim about a quarter of those
Niles. Our families of homicide victims for the most part, its mothers and fathers, like the givens being told the state, would
not help them very their child
four Darlene, tomorrow's past head
Nothing to do with his victimization, two more assertive
He moved on. He was not
in the community
I've been anyone harm and anyone. He largest lesson from that
my producer, Kate and I travelled to the attorney general's office and Columbus Ohio to find out why they were denying so many folks like Caron Darling, I'm ok
we sat down and MAC, and I who overseas the victim compensation fund and I've got to ask him about it. So
You know in some ways these rules what they seem to do. It creates a situation where this office is deciding who counts as a victim, and who doesn't know I mean so we don't take the position that it minimizes their victimization it anyway. It's important rumour that the compensation programme isn't, like charity, grant rate it to compensation granted inactive grace by the state. That is, if you had, expenses will pay for some of these expenses,
and it doesn't apply every victim right it. It's not saying you weren't a victim. It saying that there are only certain types of people and certain types of victimization that we address until I dont think its assent.
Am I saying you're, not a victim in your opinions in compensation not be available to us
due to previous crow.
Behaviour that might not
I'll be related to the later victimization. So I mean I can't really speakers.
In my opinion, I can really only speak to the wall in my understanding. Is that the purpose of the law- and these are stained- this law was passed like an eighteen eighty, so I was like six years old when this law was passed. You know a lot of what that comes down to is this feeling
if you don't respect the law and your break the law, then you don't get the benefit of this other side of the wall. So it's kind of like say
If you dont come with clean hands to the compensation fund, the new fund turns you away.
That said, there would be fewer denials if people with criminal records or their families were told, don't bother applying.
You'll be turned down,
Oh hi was one of seven states with laws restricting people with criminal pass from getting help
oh hi was law is one of the most restrictive. It bans anyone with any type of
Donnie from getting compensation whether the crime was by
or non things like a drug possession or failing to pay child support. One of the things that outraged me the most about this is that people with money
Power are treated differently in our justice. There, they're, not police. The same way. David Singleton is an attorney in Cincinnati. Here
presented Jamal Givens when he was incarcerated in juvenile detention white folks in black folks, in routine of we all commit crimes. But if you are why, in privileged you're, not gonna be subject to the same police involvement, you're, not only police,
the same way, and that's just not fair, that we're gonna deny p
or when they are victims of crime compensation in particular,
we in tomorrow's case, were his adjudication was juvenile
juvenile records are supposed to be sealed to protect kids from adult consequences and in fact we couldn't pulled tomorrow's record to verify all the details about his crime, but the view
Abundant Ohio could and they used it to deny Darling Carl Compensation in Ohio, a juvenile chrome
Past can follow you into death.
Kane! I drive a few hours north of since Nay the Cleveland, where Antonio
the lives of this family took it into his head
We walked up a narrow ramp. Connecting his house to the street,
the only orderly Antonio,
welcome to then we found the couch. He was in a wheelchair,
John driver Donna hadn't three miles an hour in random, a car from back and said that have a pole
and what are the results of the accident? But he got twelve years ago paralysed and just now,
He got the better.
Antonio is remarkably grounded, not optimistic and sunny, but honest and clear about.
But it takes for him to live every day when the accident happened. It was at the beginning of the fall semester
the sophomore year college. He was
wearing guard on the key yoga Community College, men's basketball team and was studying.
Be a gym. Teacher school german live like a better way.
And after he was in rehab re learning. Everything put such onto given was myself up to turn it in a bid to turn aside. So
everything and also need and financial help to make his house and car wheelchair accessible. He applied to the victim.
Compensation fund for help where you hopeful,
or when you had first applied that you're gonna get some help from the sea.
I don't know. I was gonna get some type of help in order
and I would prefer that had been in trouble is in a dark period. They always said it did. You know
Seal. They can't use it against within a daughter, and yet they still found a way to use on the Heaven. To now.
The state denied Antonios application because he'd been in trouble when he was a kid. He had a couple of charges, one for drug possession and another for trafficking
But he says he had moved on approval
I would like to ask you Bob s: love ass, it were
where are you staying Jimmy State? I travel pretty much. Do you stand Jimmie Dale show the Jim is pretty far off for him now and he faces
constant pressure with turnover is always bills, always prolong a cucumber bills.
For his health care and the new handicap adjusted car. He just got he's trying to save up for a wheelchair, accessible home.
The only gets about seven hundred and fifty dollars a month for disability, most people in his position.
You can turn the Ohio victim Compensation Fund which awards victims up to fifty thousand dollars
but Antonio got nothing, is at the age of mad?
outer by tobacco, are not allowed to drink
later on. I ll do anything Lamb loud to get something better hot me for us, my life:
oh Margaret, saw affair the sorcerer, the item victims
fun close out with fifteen million dollar Surplus Tom
left over money. Then
so we have a lot of money to recycling it out with the sailor, but her
I said a wheeler criminals. Antonio, was surprised at the
on had so much money left over a million,
of dollars a year fur lethal
ten years, but there's something else. I found that didn't support.
I am as much in the form
more people noted the victims race. We found that the majority of those people,
Sixty one percent were turned
for having a record we're black
I took that information to MAC and I at the Ohio attorney General's office.
He's. The lawyer we met earlier who oversees the victim compensation fund. I asked him a straightforward question: why are black people heard the most by this law?
My reaction to that is that I don't necessarily find that surprising. There were analysis of the two thousand and ten centre stage
that suggested that African Americans word through disproportionately incarcerated at a rate about six times the average for White american,
Ok, so mad says it's not surprising to him that black victims are disproportionately affected and he said
The attorney general first became concerned about this law about three years ago after he was approached by family members of murder, victims who are denied because they had criminal histories. I asked me about Antonios case and why a paralysed car accident victim would be denied. I really would be hard pressed to find any wall is unit
her solely applied in such a way that every person decide agrees that never has an unjust conclusion. So Madman saying this is the law. We don't have a choice. We have to follow it, but in fact they do have a choice in some cases, because under the law the attorney general's office is allowed to turn down people for crimes they were never convicted of, they can decide. Maybe the person should have been found guilty, but got away.
And twice sixteen. They did that twenty four times the standard reason why
exists is because that there are people who are sort of obviously guilty of a crime
for whatever reason there not convicted match. Saucy is a former police
sir, an firefighter who now works as an attorney who helps people file victim compensation claims. He says he deals with this type of thing a lot and it's very frustrating thing because its than evidence he told me something else, something really surprising. He said that sometimes
AG's office offices, digging up old accusations that were never even prosecuted. Oftentimes prosecutors already made a decision not to charge or to drop the charges not to pursue it, because there's not enough evidence there. Yet the attorney general turns around the reeds. A police reports us up denied
We are entitled to look at the evidence and say no, you obviously committed this felony offence, and so we're not going to pay so, but that really protects you against. Are the cases where
You do have good solid evidence of an offence, and you know you just kind of not letting the person slipped by because they didn't ultimately get prosecuted and convicted
as the criminal justice reporter. I often hear that the system is about getting justice for victims, but not all
sums are treated equally about a month ago,
Are we are finishing the story? Republic?
The attorney general MIKE Doin announced a plan to loosen some of the restrictions he's running for governor,
and he s day lawmakers to allow people with criminal histories to qualify if their applying on behalf of a victim who is a minor. He also ass,
to reduce how far back a person's criminal past is examined from ten years to five. The bills been in,
you spot nowhere on whether all become law. Since Denmark, Givens family was disqualify
His parents, Carlin Darlene, didn't get that help and have gone into debt. They started to get collection notices for funeral expenses. I asked Darling
It would have meant if Ohio had helped them, just as it would have been caught for me to know.
Tat. The government are
who were run. These things cares but
when I got over those just you know, he's just another victim type of victim they're, looking for put it that way, even to their fees victimized,
the marshal projects.
Lisa Santo bought a sad story, those produced by Kate Osborne with data
houses from reveals, Michael Corey Eliseo reviewed victim compensation funds across the country and found it every year. Hundreds of thousands of victims applied state funds
which paid out more than three hundred and forty eight million dollars in twenty sixteen, but
As the Lisi mentioned, seven states like Ohio,
some sort of ban in place for people with criminal past our next toy. It takes us North Carolina, we're program that supposed to help victims of drug addiction instead uses.
As free labour. There is no real structured recovery, the
recovery that we got was
work, your tail off, that's next unreal.
From the centre for investigative reporting and p or x,
from the centre for investigate, reporting and p r ex this is reveal analysis are next.
It takes us to a busy cachet where Manning Lean Haines is talking to reveal reporters Amy, Julia Hares and she shot a wealth and feel free to have as much of this. If you want a kind of trial,
No, no, I don't
You are over fries and grilled cheese sandwiches. They talk about what happened at a drug. We have outside of Asheville North Carolina
It was a client there when he was struggling with drug and alcohol addiction. Afterwards he actually went to work there,
nor are the bodies- are married. Any items
Here's tell about the programme called recovery connections, community Venus, forty four years old, but walks in talks with the swagger of a much younger man.
The browser self must always telling it like. It is no matter the consequences, he's battled with chronic addiction most of his life.
My plea to silver most of the time, but not always I'ma, keep a real recovery connections, is free and open its doors to people like ear
We were then other wrote the desperately needed somewhere. They can go back to the house, Gesine on the white, take them out of mom wherever they gonna wanna go. This problem
The people are really don't have a options: that's catch. While recovery can
since its free there's some ground rules for everyone in the programme. They get housing in food and in exchange they after work full time jobs at local business
you gonna work, work, work, work, work and recovery connections keeps all their pay
its other programme words. That's. How splendid is
the residents working and them
it has made on the jobs goes back into the programme, but over Time
he began to doubt whether money was going. The programmes found it
Jennifer worn was always talking about money. I need to make some money. I my money slight.
That's kind of where I was like you know what this Ross running at this means is generally
demanded that people work around the clock sixteen hours more every day, the more they worked them
money they brought in, but even says instead of going to the programme.
He saw money going somewhere else into Jennifer's pockets
he grew so disillusioned that it could job there anymore
Shanna Walter are here with me in the studio talk about what they found a low ladys. How hail to China? Can you start off by tell me the House programme set up and what happens to the people who take part in
Well, it's a two year long programme. They basically spend the majority of their time working in these contract jobs at care homes
they don't get paid. All the money goes to the rehab programme and they work more than sixteen hours per day as care
givers for elderly, disabled and mentally ill patients, their changing their diapers
their bathing them. There sometimes dispensing medications, helping the feed them and they don't really get much training if any training at all, then most of these jobs so Amy Juliet. How does this help them kick?
the drug habit, what their told initially when they got into the programme, is at this structure
Work is going to be good for them. It's gonna, keep their mind off drugs idle hands are bad. Work is supposed to help them
but when their working in these facilities, the facilities are often a wash in drugs and
Sean mentioned some of these recovery.
Drug addicts are actually tasked with dispensing narcotics and opiates
things went wrong all the time. So people told us that on the job, drugs acts were com
and people would steal prescription paint.
Dollars and snort them, often if they were cast with dispensing drugs, which
He also were allowed to do you're supposed to have a special state certification to do that they would take drugs meant for the patience and too
them for themselves, and we actually talk to end who you heard from earlier, who got the insight scoop on some of this
so the residents were going and discharge containers and taking the empty
residual classic containers of Morphine
squeeze them all into one cup to accumulate enough to get high
he's talking about right. There's the sharps containers are the medical waste, as are the garbage
and for a lot of this, and people would go in there and steal the residual morphine
I think that was pretty common was that people would steal sentinel pain patches, which are the patches meant, for
bowing chronic pain and they slowly release pain killers that they would just take. Those off of the residence for themselves are taken,
off the residents that had patches.
Take the hatches, often within such a family, or do suddenly get it couple. Women today did they take out. Now you don't get kicked out for relapsing. We actually found that for most
people who go to this programme, but it doesn't really helped them at all. I mean most people don't make it to the two, your mark so sure genre. Why would people who are struggling with addiction work with voting
people in assisted living facilities that are full of drugs at that? Just doesn't make a lot of sense, basically, that I dont care homes contract with recovery connections, as if they are kind of like a staffing agency and its cheap. They don't have to pay workers compensation, it ought to pay insurance.
Have to pay over time. Some of the facilities are only paying minimum wage further recovery connections, workers which is about
on twenty five and our so it's cheap source of labour for them will cover facilities. Would take
people. Well, we wanted to know that too, so we actually went to one of these facilities. This is back in December. It's called camp
living center. We went there around nine o clock at night. It was super dark. There were trees all over the place is kind of seclude,
in this wooded rural area and in the parking lot we actually found a recovery connections worker and we followed him inside through this kind of
Flimsy wooden door. Totally unsecured
we walked down. There
damn we lit hallway into this kind of cafeteria
area there were people everywhere was totally chaotic. There was this
loud radio going on people
around pacing, back and forth and to the right of us there was this open office,
where all the meds were me
you held me no prescription
pain, killers and all sorts of medications to overjoyed will be opiates would be in their absolute
and people are just running in and out in. Oh there were residents running it out of their staff. Member
No one really asking who we were, what we were doing there in Julia. Did you guys get a chance to talk to any of the companies? It only
yeah. We talk to a lot of them and one of them. The company that owns candour living had said that they contract with the recovery centre because their cheap
a reliable source of labour, and they said that they thought.
We're doing a good thing that they were giving these people struggling
the direction a chance to gain job experience. What they said, though,
that they ve never had any problems with these rehab workers whatsoever, but just
and a surprising because when we talk to a lot of the rehab worker
as a former employees at these facilities. They ve said that this whole array
When I was a bad idea, there were drug thefts. I think that we did not touch
I was there a lot of allegations of sexual assault as well there
some really serious cases, seven cases that
it identified where these rehab workers were accused.
Sexually assaulting. Patients at the care homes tell me more about their. What did you learn about the assault in what happened when we,
What about these assaults from employees at these care homes and many of them were so concerned, because none of the
incidents they said had ever been reported to authorities which has required under law. So
some of the allegations were very serious. On there was one rehab worker who is accused of sexually.
Halting disabled patient in the shower. It was never report.
Never investigated. The home did actually answered
the policy preventing rehab workers from
eating female patience, but as far as we know that rehab worker is still working in the care homes. That's horrifying. Lillis get back to the rehab itself. How do people with addictions end up in a place like
This will we actually found a lot of participants at recovery connections. Were court ordered there as part of their probation? You know a judge will say: ok, I'm not gonna. Send you to prison by. I require you to get treatment or go to rehab for your drug problem. There are a lot of rehab like us all over the country that advertise themselves is
free and specifically cater to people who don't have any money and dont have any insurance and therefore don't really have any place to turn. Also a lot of social workers at state, funded, psych facilities, rehab centres, detox facilities, send people really
ray connections as well. We talk to one guy named Brian Bailey, who was ordered by a judge to complete treatment.
Cleveland Ohio. Here,
it had a charge of domestic violence for pushing his step father
During an argument related to his heroin addiction, he had some driving related
just from his heroin addiction and
He ended up at recovery connections and realized. It was not at all the treatment that he needed to overcome that there is no real structured recovery. The only recovery that we got was
work. Your tail off wake up go to work, do everything
Tell you to orient, though pajama move put on punishment. Take what little bit
privileges or freedoms that you from you keep you Workin
thirteen twenty hours a day like every day, the way
so people are working. He's crazy. Long days
Amy Julia walk me through what a day is like one of these rehab centres, it's in credit.
Structured so on people have told us that they wake up at six, a m and they're going to work at the assisted living facilities. So they're working, double shit
essentially sixteen hours a day, that's common after,
that when they're back at the rehab facility, as Ryan was
describing of their put on the move. That means that they always have to be working, so that's
can be a cleaning up around the house? People told us that they had very strict rules and sort of these odd punishments, for they would have to cut the fur
along with a pair of scissors or scrub the base boards of the home with a baby tooth brush and they
to do this for hours and hours on end, and this is ostensibly to help keep their mind off of their addictions. But we talk to a lot of people that said, it was about control,
It was about sort of breaking them down that sells really caught liked me yeah. What a lot of people have said was that the bus colt, like part of this, was actually bees therapy groups that
had that would happen once a week.
You down and then doing bother to build you up in Spain.
She's turn you down and then your self esteem down normally
but what they want out of you and people had said that that was about all of the therapy they got and what the rehab said was o this.
Supposed to be an exercise that would sort of bring their flaws front and centre and help them confront this and overcome it. But what people said was it was incredibly abusive,
It would break them down and again. This was all about control. I've been in therapy that doesn't sound anything like therapy to me. So what happened right? Well, he ended up fleeing
programme he became homeless for awhile. He relapsed he found out that as a result of all this, he violated his probation. So he actually currently has a warrant from Cleveland for his arrest,
and as a result, he's been kind of on the run. Ever since I mean he has a hard time getting a job he kind of has
the state lay low and he can't get a driver's license. So it's really affected his life. For the worse, I can go back to Ohio.
We're they'll arrest me I mean I wouldn't go back and do that again if I had to
I would almost rather take on changes on the street. It hasn't worked out for right, but, as will hear the programme worked up,
pretty well for the woman whose, behind this whole scheme, she turned the rehab into our own personal empire, complete with a collection of exam,
the camps. Eleven La Hague
Frankie Ease was she goes Arctic Fox, that's coming up on the view from the centre for investigating reporting in p r s.
From the centre for investigative reporting and p r ex this is reveal an hour later, I'm talking to reveal
what is a mutually Harrison Shanna Walter about their story. Looking recovery,
extra community outside of Ashraf North Carolina now it bills itself as a drug. We have programme, but the therapy consists
of sending clients to work sixteen hours a day as caregivers at assisted living facilities and the workers never saw the money they made.
A woman named Jennifer WAR instead of the programme and seemed to profit off of it. So aimed Julia. Tell me more about this woman. What what
all about she's really interesting character, I'm so she herself, I struggled with a dick,
and she was getting her Phd in clinical psychology. That's when she got hooked on crack cocaine. She dropped out. She went to this
a programme in North Carolina Thou had
a similar model? It was a work based. Rehab is free, but try to turn over all of her paid the rehab. Basically I she was in this area
ram met some other people and she decided to start a rehash of her own and it was called recover.
Ventures, so she starts.
This rehab programme, but soon it sort of began to go.
The rails for her. She got into some ethical problem. She was forcing people in her power
ram to baby said her kids and color coordinator closet and take care of
animals and was
blurring the line between helping they were covering
got eggs and helping herself, because she was in part of this nonsense.
But rehab programme, she would have them solicit donations, and some of them ended up going to her rather than to program participants.
And sort of. The final straw for all of this was when she started sleeping with one of her rehab participants who she was counselling and that obviously, a huge ethical breach
Some of our colleagues were trying to intervene and said your jeopardizing your license. This is career suicide. What are you doing and she held firm and said
I love him. What am I supposed to do she continued all of this, and I was kind of the final straw she ended up getting fired. She lost her therapy licence shot into a lot of trust,
and then she ended up just starting a new programme called recovery connections. That was basically an identical version of her previous programme by
This time shouldn't have to answer to anyone who is in charge so Charlotte. She starts as new place, but though she continue the same behaviour. Yes, the same exact thing
this time she is running an unlicensed programme.
No one really to hold her accountable and theirs.
Other everything that we haven't told you about yet, which is her Concord Animal therapy programme
Jennifer has like a
things were animal, protecting animals
she likes exotic animals. That's he and he is again he worked at the facility and was also a patient. He says that Jennifer weren't has an extensive exotic animal collection, their basically like her pats. She uses the programme to buy,
animals and makes participants take care of them. So what type of animals are redundant belly like? How many we talk? There were hundreds. She keeps them at her house
black Mountain North Carolina people have told us that her entire
bed room was full of cages of exotic bird like two cans and parakeets another tropical birds and
asked in this question like how many animals are they and curious going through all of them, probably fifty years. Finally, like no love fifty,
like three or a plus,
eleven lamas, plus seven dogs plus eight donkeys, was in our sheep, Goats Arctic Fox.
Yeah two of them. She could use some cute but violent. Looking monkey
I hate monkeys? No, no! No! No! No! It's ok
Eleven lamas eleven lamas, I know, but we also
heard. That was really sad. Is that some participants had to bury the long as some of the long died so part of their duties after their working at the assisted living facilities? They come home and they have to bury a dead Lama whose very traumatic. So what have we eve.
Yeah yeah had a rough time. He ended up going to the rehab centre in twenty fourteen. He stayed first, sixteen months he sort of saw things breaking down. He questioned the way the money was being spent. He would get into arguments with Jennifer over the way. She was
running programme funds on herself healed,
at Lee, ended up leaving on not good terms and because he struggles with addiction is entire life. He ended up real app saying who is in a
the dark place and after a couple of months, actually ended up going
back to the programme as a participant no longer as an administrator, so he was gone
to the programme working sixteen our days at the assisted living facilities. He did that for a couple of months.
Finally realised nothing was gonna change. This programme was not going to work for him and I wasn't working for some other people's while so he ended up leaving so
how is she able to get away with this? I mean. How could she just
keep doing the same thing over and over
It is amazing out. There have been at least for worse state agencies that have investigated horror that have received
so many like dozens upon dozens of complaints about her and she's manage,
tell you basically got out of trouble each and every single time. So what has warned
say about all this mean. How does she defend herself
overall, she is sort of said that she is providing a valuable service that there's not enough. Affordable treatment,
programmes anywhere in the country that it's better for people struggling with addiction to get some sort of rehab help thing go into prison Andrews.
Have made this point to probe
officers and courts all over the state. So is there an alternative? You know people generally feel like
Doing work and doing a good job at the work gives them a sense of self esteem, but there are programmes that do that without working them excessive number of hours, depriving them of sleep and programmes that also, at the same time, provide them with actual treatment. Further addictions where they might take classes were, they might actually have therapy or counselling. So I think there's that part of it, and also
you know if a programme is licensed and then there's some oversight and there's someone who can say this is abusive, and this must stop
We first came out with this story back in May. A lot has happened since China. Can you bring us up to date all right?
the bad Governor Roy Cooper, North Carolina called the rehab, a horrific scheme that praise on people at their lowest and he ordered a state like
crackdown. That involves at least ten criminal and regulatory investigations into the programme there. Looking an elder abuse at fraud and other problems, so is the programme still open?
programme is still open, while the investigation is ongoing for people on probation,
are no longer allowed to go there, though state probation apartment, pull them out, state social work,
errors are no longer allowed to send people there and several of the care homes that we're
using the workers have cancelled their contracts at the programme. We have heard, though, that recovery connections is still sending people to work at some of the homes, so we're gonna keep track
What happens? That's reveals,
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