Due to the graphic nature of these killers crimes. Listener discretion is advised. This bestowed includes discussions of murder, domestic violence and sexual assault that some people may find offensive. We advise extreme caution for children under thirteen A woman awaiting execution on death row once said these words, my story is a love story. Those tortured with love can understand what I mean in the history of the world. How many crimes have been attributed love. The answer to that question too many to count weather the crime of passion committed in the heat of the moment or killings. He carried out by lovers were familiar with stories in which love and murder dovetail thanks to the popular culture. Infamy

criminal couples like Bonnie and Clyde. We sometimes imagined that these romances, while dark, are built on a real connection. If you take a closer look at the real life bonds between couples who kill in tandem you off find their rooted not in romance, but in fear obsession and toxic co dependency. If love keeps you locked in a cycle of abuse or turns you into somebody. You don't recognize. Can you even TK my love and what love mean if the person you love is also the one who does toys you

I am grateful for this is serial killers, a spot of my original thumper cast. This is the first episode of a four part. Look at couples who killed over the next two weeks were taking a closer look at four Valentine bearings who were driven to murder, I'm here with me. Composed Vanessa Richardson high everyone, you can find episodes of serial killers and all other Spotify originals from par cast for free on Spotify or wherever he listened. Podcast currency YO killers were usually looking at just one monster, exploring what moved them to kill and kill again, but this month king at love in some of its more twisted incarnations, whether from

sex or a shared madness. Please, couples worked together to kill unconcealed while from the outside, they looked just like two people in blissful innocent today were delving into the murder, sprit of RE and Faye Copeland. Some of the oldest people ever sentenced to death in the United States will explore the Copeland deprived of bringing their abusive marriage and how raise violent nature ultimately landed them both on death row over the next three episodes would look at other couples whose victims and motivations differ greatly from re and phase, but these pairs all have one thing in common breakable bond you ve got all that and more coming up stay with us

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The crash of nineteen, twenty nine in raise rural community neighbors were losing their homes and land to foreclosure ray his own family wasn't spared when he was in the fire fourth grade, he had to drop out of school to help out on the farm likely because It could no longer afford to hire help as a result I grew up functionally illiterate, surrounded despair and economic anxiety resentment began to build in re along with a moral streak that would define his adult life when he was about any re began. Stealing he stole hogs from his own father and then government checks from his own brother raise parents knew about his crimes, but perhaps because were too preoccupied with their money worries. It seems that they struggled to discipline him. Instead, they likely covered for him. Work. Traveled fast in their small community, and they didn't want him in trouble? Still

we'll find him soon enough in itself twenties rate was arrested for forging checks and sent to prison for a year far reforming him. His time behind bars only hardened his determination to get ahead by any means necessary, he'd seen. First, hand where, following the rules, got you poor and desperate, but spite his disregard for the law, re was traditional by his mid twenties he was ready to settle down and find a wife who would do it on him in nineteen, for when re was twenty six. He made a fateful visit. What doctors office in the rural community of Red, STAR Arkansas there He struck up a conversation with a shine nineteen year old named they Della Wilson, the sparks flew instantly, early on re and face seemed to complement each other perfectly. She was as meek as he was bullish and within days Again, a whirlwind romance phase

bringing was in many respects the polar opposite of raise born into strict religious family figure. Up in a household, her father ruled with an iron fist. She was used to a male authority, figured telling her exactly what to do, and perhaps that's what drew her to re, who was confident and assertive Venice going to take over the psychology here and throughout the episode. Please note Vanessa Not a licence, the college's dress, psychiatry list, but she has done a lot of research for the show. Thanks, Greg It may sound cliche to say that were drawn to people who reminds us of our parents, but research really has shown that the relationship between a child and their parents has a huge impact done. How that child will approach relationships throughout their life, attachment theory, branch of developmental psychology. Claims that a child's early experiences with parents or caregivers influence how they process emotions as adults. It also

determines how they will bond with other people, such as romantic partners, are in tile interactions with our parents, therefore create a model that shape How we approach adult intimacy, to quote John Bobby psychologists to develop detachment theory in the nineteen fifties and Sixtys a choice its relationship with their parents affects their behaviour quote from the cradle. The grave Ray, may have reminded Faye of her overbearing, father and young as she was. That was possible, Lee reassuring on some level. She knew how to live in harmony with this kind of man, or so she thought wasn't just raise domineering, nature that appealed to thing she to grow up. During the great depression. Economic anxiety ran deep in her re spoke about money with confidence as though we had plenty of it and seemed like he would be a good provide,

iter. As far as Faye was concerned. Raise word was gospel list. Did. She know he was really a penniless con man putting on a practised facade within months our first meeting Ray and Faye married. The couple had two sons, Everett and Billy Ray and move young family to Fresno, County California, craving a fresh start in the golden state Ray and Faye. Had two more children in California, but becoming a father. Did Soften raise rough edges and soon his criminal impulses brought their life on the West Coast to an abrupt end in the late night he forties RE was accused of stealing horses from a local farmer and Fresno no charges ever filed by the legation destroyed his reputation in the community then soon after the birth of his fifth child re, move, his family back to Arkansas within the overriding he was arrested for stealing cattle and

sentenced to a year in jail. We began a year's long period throughout the nineteen fifties in which re was constantly in and out of jail for livestock theft and check forgery the family moved around a lot during this time between Arkansas Missouri and Illinois the most for periods for the Copeland were during raise prison stance when he was behalf. Bars, Faye and the kids could breathe easy, but he came home things god ugly. It's not clear Fraid was violent and abusive from the beginning of his marriage to Faye or whether as personality darkened over the years, but by the time, the Copeland Chill were old enough to four memories. They were likely terrified of their father. When raised. Third son out was a teen rabies. At him with a pair of metal cow pickers, leaving him with lifelong back problems, recalling

his father's violence in an interview with investigation discovery, Alice, said what ever re came home from prison, you had to be on your guard as far as what you said to him, how you set it, because if you set it wrong to him, you'd get physically abused waiting to AL but was even worse, was watching his mother. Take the abuse in the same interview. Al said that he and his siblings became accustomed to seeing Faye with bruises and black eyes and knew what it meant de l rate treated his wife a lot worse than trash despair. The violence is not clear whether Faye ever considered leaving re given the relentless abuse she and her children experienced over the years. It's likely that the thought at least Two crossed her mind But there are many reasons why leaving may not have felt like a viable option. Favours deeply religious woman raised in a christian dimensionless family, where the patriarchs we're

was law once more. She believed that divorce was a sin on em practical level. She was also financially dependent on re, with five children to feed and Sophie stayed with her husband and life carried on by the night. Sixties ray had a new strategy for cattle rustling instead of sin stealing the cows he bought them in a seemingly legitimate transaction, but since he lacked the funds to actually afford them, he used bad checks that promptly bounced this scheme unravelled fast in nineteen, Sixty one re was caught and sent back to jail a few years later. He served another jail term for the same crime. Nineteen sixty six Ray had moved his family to Moors Phil Missouri and bought a forty acre farm. Hearing this, you might assume that the couples finances had taken an upswing, but in fact the purchase was a stretch and the companies concerned

new to live a hand to mouth existence, even ass landowners ray and face both took odd jobs to make ends meet him on farms, her at a local motel and Sometimes they read out parts of their farm for pasture by this, I'm rain based children had all left home and we're not hunger around to help out on the farm. This left right no choice but to hire employees to pick up. The slack butts financially ass? He was, he had to get credit Dave about his recruitment methods. The precise dates get a little murky here, but it some during the nineteen seventies re started, picking up hitchhikers, rather than giving them the right they wanted. He offered them work on his farm, which many accepted he also sought out employees at a local homeless, shelter offering fifty dollars a day plus free room and board. It was offer. Not many desperate people could turned down and so

Collins neighbours watched wearily, yes, dishevelled drifters came and went from the farm over the years. Little did they know it was re himself. Should have been keeping an eye on not his hired hands That said, there is no record of any confirmed criminal activity during this time, its past, will that re put his cattle theft on ice for awhile, perhaps spooked by his numerous stance in jail, but one report paints. A deeply Durban picture of radiant phase disintegrating marriage according to forensics colleges, Lenore Walker, who was interviewed by investigation discovery, re brought far hence home enforced, fade to have sex with them in front of him. Sometimes at gunpoint, Walker back violates that this was done for raise pleasure and should be part of as part of this abusive behaviour, forcing your wife to have sex with strangers and wanting to watch it happen is an act of such perverse evil that is hard to make sense of. But if this report is true,

It may have laid the groundwork for raise next scam. After all, if we could MRS employees to have sex with his wife at gunpoint. Why not force them to commit other crimes for him to Ray resented the men he hired. He felt they were lit, off the welfare money paid for by hard working taxpayers like himself? He felt that they owed him something, he saw them ultimately as dispensable daddy in mind. He hatched a horror, buying new plan Coming up, Ray Copeland. Murder spree begins. Hi. It's Vanessa from part cast this there's, someone for everyone, a song to share your secrets with a companion to grow old with conspirator too, commit crimes with

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having spent his entire adult life, scraping together, a living re, was, in opposition to retire, but he heard come up with a new plan to get ahead. He'd been caught more than once, using bad checks to buy cattle and had no desire to spend any more time behind bars. Instead, and he figured he could use his farm hands to do the dirty work for him Ray had nothing but contempt for the drifters. He hired you, them as a lazy men who never bothered to pull themselves up other bootstraps and resented having to pay them further labour. But now he found a way to make use of them. One of the first unwitting participants and raise new scheme was a man named Gerald Perkins based on race pattern of behaviour. It's likely that after hiring Gerald RE took him to the local bank and helped him to set up an account next. He drove during to a catalogue, action and pointed out the cause he wanted to buy. He had Gerald make the purchase

is on his behalf. Using the start, checks from his new bank account final Ray sold the cows on to another buyer, then or Gerald, to leave town the deal was that by the time the Czechs bounced the cows and their buyer would both be long gone, leaving no paper trail back to re, but it didn't work out quite like re, planned Gerald about Lee confessed, the whole scheme to police- and so back to jail. Re went, after he was released, he'd learned his lesson. It wasn't to get rid of the paper trail he needed get rid of every single piece of evidence, including a human being at the centre of his plot. By now Murder might have seemed like an inevitable next step, radio, we ve been violent and abusive with his family

and among his neighbors. He had a reputation as a suspicious weirdo. He was snappy in cold. All it took the little desperation to push him over the edge into true evil and by the nineteen eighties. Re was desperate, that was when the Copeland Financial troubles spiral out of control, theirs now went to visit his parents in nineteen eighty six, accompanied by one of his brothers. They knew that there and were on the verge of bankruptcy, and they wanted to help, but re wouldn't hear of it. In fact, he was furious. She shouted at his sons telling them to stay out of his business. Eighteen. Eighty six proved to be a critical year for seventy. Two year old re records indicate that was the year he finally put his murderous new cattle rustling scheme into action, perhaps he'd been sitting on the plan for years, not quite daring to start, and perhaps

The shame of his sons pity was what finally pushed him over the edge Here's how raise new scheme worked. He hung around place were transients came for food and shelter. He talk a big about money and job opportunities waiting to see who, bit in CEPT, or of nineteen. Eighty six re met is thirty. One year old man named Dennis Murphy. He offered Murphy plus free room and board in exchange, He said he expected help around the farm, most importantly, help with perch in cattle at auction. Story may have been that he was hard of hearing and couldn't managed by him self and allow past paste environment of our rural auction to homeless man and desperate need of income and housing. The steel The ban on no brainer once he had Murphy on board re likely took him to a nearby town and had him open a new post office box and checking account ray what

Fronted him the money for both from there the cattle scam began, Ray and Murphy able, together to rural auctions, all around the county where Murphy bought to let raise direction using his starter checks, Ray sold the new cattle immediately afterwards and pocketed the prophet. He knew the check would bounds, but it didn't matter. There was no way to trace Murphy's account back to re. Now All he needed to do was make sure Murphy couldn't write him out as rain Murphy returned to the farm on October. Seventeenth array struck him Murphy in the back of the head with a twenty two caliber rifle killing him instantly Murphy. Crumpled to the ground and re sprung into action. He dragged me these body into the back of his truck and drove out to a neighbouring farm where he sometimes did odd jobs there. He fixed the corpse to a forty on concrete, wait, then heaved

both over the side of a well Keith, No one would find him they're just a later, in November of nineteen, eighty six re carried out the plan again He hired a new worker Wayne Warner and had an fraudulently. Purchased cattle had an auction once Warner served, his purpose re shot him in the back of the head and drove his body out to the same farm where he'd buried Murphy He buried Warner's body in a shallow grave beneath bales of hay and drove to his own farm, where things was waiting for him. At this point, we have to wonder: did re put on a facade, poorest, Pretending that Warner and Murphy had simply quit. Did she believe or play along with the lie, preferring to keep the peace rather than risk. A fight. Or did they know exactly what was going on? The answer is unclear, give

These men lived with the Copeland on their land. It's hard to believe that Faye was completely in the dark the very least she would have noticed their disappearances. But, since re made a point of hiring drifters with no close ties in the area, they probably wouldn't have found its train if they moved on without saying goodbye and she were. To regularly at a local motel. So it possible. She wasn't home to hear the gunshot when either of the men were killed. However, given what we know about the Copeland marriage. It also makes sense that Faye might have simply looked the other way during during years of abuse. She knew better than to ask too many questions if this is the case. Then phase behaviour could be attributed to learn. Helplessness coined by sight colleges setting animal behavior in the nineteen sixties. The term learn helplessness now describes what happens when an individual faces a continuous and

tolable negative situation and gradually gives up on trying to change their circumstances. Research. Suggest that living within a cycle of abuse for sustained periods can lead to learn, helplessness and the victim. Even they knew what was happening. She may have felt unable to stop re if she could keep him from abusing her and her children. How could she keep him? from hurting strangers. It's also possible that fade did me than look the other way. She probably wasn't directly involve than the actual murders killing someone with a rifle isn't typically a two percent job, but perhaps she helped re dispose of the bodies clean up any evidence afterwards in it, nineteen ninety paper on joint murders for the Journal of Crime and Justice, Philip Jenkins, described two types of partner serial killers, the dominant submissive pair and the equally dominant team in a day

minutes submissive pair one partner. Usually the man is the dominant partner and the woman participates to please him. She may or may not take part in or observe the actual murders. It's clean, that re was the dominant force in the Copeland marriage face of fitted to him both out of fear and because of her traditional values. If she was involved, this was likely the dynamic weather Wife knew the truth or not raise murders went undetected for years, simple Murphy and Warner were drifters. It doesn't seem like the disappearances were investigated by authorities or, if they were, the investigation didn't get par. Over the next three years: Re Copeland hired and murdered at least three more farm hands. Twenty Seven year olds, Jimmy Harvey and John Freeman twenty one year old, Paul Coward in the case, of coward and Freeman unlikely for Jimmy Harvey is well Ray, had

each man open up a bank account and by cattle on his behalf after each job was done. Re shot his most recent employee. In the back of the head execution, style by the spring. Eighteen, eighty nine when he killed coward. Seventy five year old, was one of the oldest serial killers in american history. In getting away with murder for three years, and he was on top of the world. Twilight years, he'd finally found a reliable source of income that would keep him and his wife above water and is far we can tell the human cost of the scheme didn't trouble re for a moment, after all, I saw the many hired as leeches on society. He resented then for relying on government benefits paid for by working people like him. This is ironic since right himself made a lifelong habit of stealing things. He hadn't turned self awareness was obviously not his strong suit soon

Ray was ready to strike again in July of nineteen, eighty nine, he hired fifty six year old, Jack Mccormick as newest farmhands as always told Mccormick that he needed help. Purchasing cattle under raise instruction, Mccormick, opened up appeal box and a bank account then began. Companies re to cattle auctions before we go any further or into Mccormick story. It's important to note that Some consider him to be an unreliable narrator because of his own criminal history. His account is crucial to our understanding of the Copeland. However, he's a near victim who lived to tell the tale Mccormick once described himself ass, a quote common gutter tramp and drunk Even still, he was sharp enough to pick up on a strange vibe at the Copeland Farm and of the weird Miss fear wasn't bad enough. His new employees, I had some strange ground rules on this.

First day RE told Mccormick that he was not to receive any visitors at the farm. This seemed reasonable enough, but re went on to tell him that phone calls and male were also forbidden. The suggestion rate didn't want anybody to know that Mccormick was on the farm for obvious reasons. Mccormick tried to brush it off. He was making good enough money to put up with a few corks, but soon format noticed Faye watching him as he went about his work on the land. His unease turned to real discomfort. One in early August, according to Jack, Mccormick's account Mccormick was walking past opens barn what he froze a few yards away. Protruding from the ground was a bomb large. Possibly a leg or an arm. Asthma looked more closely. He noticed something else: go and just like

the bone. It looked human shaken Mccormick, headed back towards the house where he was met by FE two Mccormick. She seemed upset and told him that she and re didn't want anyone going behind the barn story is chilling but seems odd. We know that re drove his victims, bodies out to neighbouring farms and made a point of not bearing them on his own land. It's possible cormick, made up the story because he was suspicious of the complaints and wanted to get the attention of police. He was afraid for his life, here's. Why for a few days, re announced that he was unhappy with Mccormick's work. Complaining he done a poor job of buying cattle sense and out Mccormick told re that he didn't think the partnership was working and that he wanted to quit its neck. Or what race said in response to this, but the next day re walk towards Mccormick, holding a twenty two caliber rifle ray

looked right at Mccormick his eyes cold. He said there a raccoon loose in the barn we gotta chase it out. He handed Mccormick a stick and gestured into the dark bar telling him to try and scare the raccoon out from where it was hiding behind Re Mccormick noticed a tractor backed up close to the barn tat was a two wheel trailer and on top of the tree there was a shovel and a piece of plastic uneasy. Mccormick headed into the darkness of the barn. He felt the hairs. Back of his neck standing up and had an overwhelming sense that something was very wrong. He turned around. Re was pointing the rifle right at him with his finger on the trigger it's not clear exactly how this tense moment ended, but it was the last straw from Cormac who persuade It ray to take him to the nearby town of Brookfield to close his bank account

along the way they stopped to pick up Faye, who seemed surprised to see Mccormick once the banker, was closed, Ray and Faye invite Mccormick to come back to the farm and collect his belongings, but by now Mccormick feared for his life and refuse to get back into the car with them. He skipped town soon after and ended up in Nebraska, but though he escaped with his life Mccormick couldn't cheek the feeling of dread that settled over him during his time on the farm. He couldn't forget the atmosphere of evil that hovered over the coastlines. He knew he had to do something in me, August nineteen. Eighty nine Mccormick called a cry. Stoppers Hotline in Nebraska, he told operator. The story about seeing human remains on the Copeland Farm, given his own wrap. She'd Mccormick was nervous about being arrested for the bad checks he wrote for re, so he hung up as the operator tried to get more information

but soon enough, the authorities caught up with Mccormick. Anyway, he was a arrest in Oregon for the bad Chuckie Roeder an auction in Missouri on re hope Lens orders drew. His police Interview Mccormick explained the whole story. He told them. He was afraid for his life. And that he was sure re was killing people and bearing the bodies on his farm intrigue the claims. Nebraska authorities contacted police in Missouri. The sheriffs parliament in Livingston, county was bewildered by the call. Theirs was quite it rural county with very little criminal activity, but they turned up since that seem to corroborate at least part of Mccormick story. A number of boats, expert cattle purchases sign via Jack Mccormick. It was not to convince them to look into the rest of the Atlantis claims. So

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police arrived at the Cubans farm with a search warrant when sixty eight year old answer the door. She was polite and cooperative rebut explained that re wasn't home. He was having breakfast in a neighbouring town. They took her into custody for her involvement with the scheme to pass bad checks, she was in jail. They searched her purse and found blank cheques signed by Mccormick, same day, they tracked down ray and arrested him to charging Ray and Faye with conspiracy to commit daft. Instead, interviews, neither re nor Faye admitted any wrong doing. At some point, RE told the cops fine, nothing on my place, but in fact back on that arm. The search was incredibly fruitful. The police, bank and livestock records showing suspicious irregularities along, raise twenty two caliber rifle they also

found a variety of clothing. Some with me labels stitched into the fabric which didn't belong to either re or face the most increased hitting discovery was a piece of scratch paper with a list of names written on it, aims. Each had a notation written beside them for victims like Wayne Warner and Denis Murphy. Then station was simply an ax, spurred by this ominous. Finding the invite to date is brought in police dogs and bulldozers searching for evidence. Corroborate Mccormick story about human remains over the next the old days they found dear bones, pig bones, cow bones, but no human remains the investigation was gathering steam. With days of the arrest becoming public the townspeople began to, come forward with stories. It was clear that right, Hey was not well liked in this community and hadn't done much to engender loyalty among his neighbors

regularly worked odd jobs like painting fixing, Barnes filling in wells which took him all over the county based on this police right but to put together a thorough list of the areas where re was regularly scene a few days into the investigation. A local farmer gave the police their breakthrough here. All seeing bones sticking out of the ground on one of the farms where re worked at the time. He too soon, It was a dear, but now In light of the rumours about re he'd begun I wonder when instigators search that farm lay pond string looking soil inside one of the cattle Barnes Excavating this oil. They found three human bodies buried just beneath the surface and discovered a fourth body later the men, were identified as Paul Coward, John Freeman and Jimmy Harvey All three were shot with bullets from the rifle seized from the Copeland House on another five

police found the bodies of Wayne Warner and Denis Murphy, one man had been buried and the other was found at the bottom of the well by this Age, the evidence against re was damning and soon face was incriminated to the law, of names was sent away for handwriting analysis when the result came back. They show tat. The writing was phase according to a popular rumour about the case The police also found a disturbing piece of evidence that incriminated Faye a hand made quilt ash and out of the dead man's clothing. This point, prosecutors were sure they had a killer couple on their hands, so on December. Twenty Eightth Ray and face we're both charged with five counts of murder. Both denied everything Sister, she knew nothing about raise crimes, it's not

or whether she ever offered an explanation for the quilt, but ass to the note. She said that He asked her to write the list because he was functionally illiterate he dictated to and she didn't ask questions not have king questions was a cornerstone of re and phase marriage and its crucial in trying to understand phase role in all of this, the Copeland Dog, Betty Lou, recalled in a nineteen. Ninety news interview that raise authority was absolute told us exactly what to do and when to do it, there was no discussion that was, it fade, knew her place possible. She either had no idea. Re was killing people or that she did know, but was too afraid to do anything to stop him. Their son AL suspects, his mom, had some knowledge of re scheme, but doesn't believe. She was directly involved and harming any the victims. This spring

us, back to the idea of re and Faye as a dominant submissive pair as defined by Philip Jenkins and ninety ninety Jenkins, wrote that the submissive partner in these couples may later described themselves as a reluctant participant or claim that we're brainwashed by the leader, particularly their facing legal charges. This is effectively These attorneys did at her trial in November of nineteen, ninety Faye pleaded not guilty Her defence team said that as a victim of abuse, they only went along with Ray scheme out of fear. Specifically, they said she had battered women syndrome. Battered woman syndrome or battered person syndrome isn't a condition listed in the DSM five, but it is recognized in the city sees international classification of diseases b W S. Is the term used to describe a pattern of signs and symptoms that are common

they found in women who have experienced long, lasting intimate partner, violence or domestic violence. The criteria, we have four b w s are similar to those for post traumatic, stress disorder, which according The DSM five include intrusive memories, avoided behaviors, difficulty maintaining close relationships, but there are other symptoms, unique to battered woman syndrome, which are important to think about here accord. To the national coalition against domestic violence, victims of a boy Use may still feel they love their abuser and make excuses for them believing they can change a case in point favorite. Used to testify about the abuse she suffered at her husband's hands, even though it was at the core of her defence her loyalty to re was stronger than her will to defend herself. Even now, she protected him.

Forensic psychologist, Lenore Walker, who coined the term battered woman syndrome and the nineteen seventies discussed, face the case at length. In the documentary about the Copeland she said, there's Salute me no question in my mind that re Copeland continued to control Faye Copeland at the trial and error. The trial when they were in prison. Dat's. This rank of the bond between batteries and their victims. But the jury did by the defences argument and sided with it, executions case that Faye was a willing participant in November thirteenth. Ninety ninety they was found guilty on all counts and sentenced to death. Willingly the loyalty face showed re at her trial was not returned. When re was told about his wife's conviction his response, was nonchalant. He reportedly said well. It happens to some of em

and soon enough it happened to him- its own trial in March nineteen. Ninety one re Copeland was also guilty on all five charges and sentenced to death, but he's. Punishment was never carried out two years after he was sentenced. Re died from a stroke at the age of seventy eight and death. His hold over Faye finally broke we re in the ground, Faye became more willing to open up Finally, she admitted to the abuse she'd suffered from him over the years though, raise abusive control over Faye faded after his death. Her love for him did not in Did you say from some time after the trial shown in the investigation discovery documentary face, said I only know when I was told he's my husband, there will always be a love in my heart for him, what other people think I dont care in August

of ninety ninety nine face deaths intense, was commuted to life in prison. She died for years later at the age of eighty two, nursing home, where she was living on medical parole will never know the full truth relationship or to what extent phase culpable for her husband's brutal killings, There is a story of an abuser at his victim or a murderer and his accomplice, or both no matter what it seems that, despite everything, phase commit to re endured to the end. Her love or perhaps her loyalty and fear consumed everything else ink holding her self preservation instinct and, in the end, the relationship destroy With her,

thanks again for turning into serial killers, he'll be back soon with part two of our killer couple series to explore another story of a love that turns deadly because sometimes love doesn't destroy so much as it reveals for more information on re and Fair Copeland. Amongst the many sources we used, we found the investigation discovery series wicked attraction, extremely helpful to our research. You can find all other sorts of serial killers and all other squatter fire rituals from park ass for free on Spotify will see you next time have a killer, weak serial killers in spot, a fire regional from par cast. Executive producers include MAX and wrong cobbler sound designed by Anthony Thou SEC, which production assistance by IRAN, Shapiro Carly Madden an airing Larsen

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