Due to the graphic nature of these killers crimes listener aggression is advised. This episode in dramatization and discussions of murder and assault that some people may find offensive. We advise exe green caution for children under thirteen people, often dream of finding a soulmate, a partner who will bring out their best qualities. The in Brady in Myra Hindley thought they were soulmate buttons. Bringing out each other's best. Their union brought out the very worst from nineteen. Sixty three nineteen sixty five, their toxic relationship, nurtured, dark and depraved urges that left a community in ruins and five children, ranging from ten to seventeen years old, dead, hi, I'm Gregg pulsing, and this is serious

others today, we're going to take a deep dive into the lives of even Brady and Myra Hindley. The infamous british couple, who terrorist the people of Manchester in the nineteen sixties, taking the lives of five children, I'm here with my co host than this a Richardson. Then this is not a licence psychologist just psychiatrist, but she's done a lot of research for the show how everyone we'd like to ask a quick favour. Would you leave I've, STAR review of serial killers on your favorite podcast directory it seems so simple, but it really helps us out and don't forget to subscribe oil you're there, because it website comes out every Monday. You can also find us on Facebook and Instagram at PAR cast and on twitter at par casts network so Gregg who were in Myra before they formed their disastrous partnership, born in in steward on January. Second, nineteen, thirty, eight and Glasgow Scotland in was the

illegitimate child of a waitress named Peggy Stuart. He never knew his father and was adopted by Marian John Sloan when he was just four months old, while his mother would visit him for the first. Twelve years of his life. She she married and left Glasgow its interest, that even was adopted, given this psychological trauma that parental abandonment and adoption can create for a young child, do think the UN's Abed by his mother: Peggy influenced his transformation into a murderer while, while most adopted children up to lead normal lives. There is denying that many adoptees grapple with strong emotions related to their adoption, including grief, anger, the lack of self esteem due to parental abandonment. However, I'm not sure, even would qualify as having low self esteem, given that he spent the majority of his life bragging about his intelligence. You did signs of intelligence at a young age. He was smart enough to get into

mere schools, but too lazy to do the necessary work to excel. He didn't get along with others and began to take pride in being an outsider. He enjoyed horror, movies, earned the nickname Dracula from his neighbors and was a chain smoker by age, eleven. In other words, he gravitated towards an identity, as a loner, unfortunately in was consumed by even darker urges than chain smoking. His family said Even at a young age, he had a tendency to act out violently and he was already interested in murder, a warning for listeners. This next description contains animal abuse at the age of ten in through a cat, often apartment building, he enjoyed hearing the cat Ya'Ll with fear ass. It fell to its death, his Aber Frank Flanagan also recalled an occasion where even buried a cat alive to see how long it would live the Eu Neighbours freed and saved the cat, but what kind of child? What torture cats

a child exhibiting. What psychiatrists call callous, and an emotional traits Kalis Cha don't feel no remorse for their violent or even murderous behaviour, and they are far more. Likely to become psychopaths as adults. So given how he behaved us, child and is obvious lack of remorse. Was it in notable that even would develop into a psychopathic killer, not necessarily The children are motivated by rewards not by punishment reach Searchers now focus on using a reward system to persuade potentially psychopathic children that it's worth it to become law abiding citizens, but obviously, in the late nineteenth fortys and fifty's, there was no such treatment for children like in and so was dark child had urged were left and checked, and it wouldn't be long before the focus of the UN's dark fantasies about torture and murder shifted from animals to people at the age of fourteen or fifteen even had a mental breakdown. He began suffering from tariffs.

Hallucinations, he saw some sort of green vision that he later described as the face of death, love English seeing visions. Does that mean he was suffering from mental illness, let's possible, especially considering the fact that a site, I trust would later diagnose him with paranoid schizophrenia for boys. Symptoms of schizophrenia, generally Into appear, when they're in their mid too late, teens since in dancing visions in his mid teens. This could potentially indicate the onset of schizophrenia worrisome behaviour continue it into his teenage years. He began stealing, though the police eventually caught him in nineteen. Fifty four a Glasgow judge ordered to leave Glasgow and live with his biological mother, Peggy in Manchester Eons exile to Man Esther did little to improve his mental state. His sense of isolation, and only increased. He began fascinated with disturbing books like Hitler's mine, Comf or the Marquis, decides,

one hundred and twenty days of Sodom. None of this is book club material. The Marquis de Sade is the godfather, so to speak of sadism. It's due to his name and his body of work that we even have the term he was famous for his sexually I want fantasies given that in would eventually reveal his own fantasies of violent rape and murder. It's not surprising that he would identify with the Marquis DE sought in in mind the marquise writings legitimized. His disturbing urges to commit violence and rape will that makes sense, but why was in also obsessed with Hitler and the Nazis in recognised that he wasn't like normal people in Hitler and other nazi leaders in found a group of people. That was just like him, callous an emotional and we to commit violence and murder without remorse, just like the Marquis de SOD, Hitler legitimized ends darkest desires. But what about my recently? Was she a cow?

child, like in Myra, was far more social and personal, and an unlikely in Myra didn't grow up. Torturing animals, in fact Myra Hindley biographer Jean Richie, describes Myers upbringing as relatively happy. She believes that Myerst childhood wasn't that different from their children growing up in the nineteen fifties. Myra Hindley was born in the summer of nineteen forty two to working class, parents in Manchester England, my father, was distant and a strict disciplinarian but her mother and grandmother were loving parental figures who voted on Myra. However, my were lived with her grandmother down the street from parents while attending school does. Mean she may have struggled like even did with abandonment unlikely mire. Grandmothers House was only a few doors down from her parents house even act moving in with her loving grandmother, Myra could visit the rest of us family, whenever she wanted, unlike in who didn't care about anyone, Myra was at least protective of her younger sister

but if my or had a fairly normal childhood, what could have caused you to fall under the sway of a sadistic killer like in Brady? Well, psychiatry to analyzed Myers, unpublished, autobiography noted that this bite, Myers, ostensibly normal childhood. She had an abner Molly, strong, charismatic and hardened personality. She was so and you didn't shy away from violence, she was so someone who saw herself is destined to do big things with her life. She was a leader better than the other kids, this inflated sense of self importance. Especially left her susceptible to an since he had his, Similarly, grandiose view of himself and his role in the world, my were may have had a high opinion of herself, but her confidence was shaken by TAT. Jack events that occurred when my room was sixteen years. Old Myra was very close to a thirteen year old boy. She often baby sat for named Michael Higgins. She viewed M almost like a boy

other Michael ask my or to go swimming with him at a nearby reservoir, but she does hang out with other friends. Michael drowned and Myra blamed herself for not going with them she was a good swimmer. Maybe she could have saved him someone like Myra, who viewed herself as a leader and someone with a special destiny. Her failure to protect and save a close friend like Michael. Could have undermined her self esteem and mentally destabilized. Her robot would make sense, since my recouped with Michael's death by immersing self Catholicism. She had been baptized Catholic, but it wasn't until after Michael's death that came religious. She received your first communion in November of nineteen. Fifty eight lay that same year, my referral in love got engaged to a man named Ronnie Sinclair, but eventually called the engagement off. She insisted she couldn't Mary Ronnie because he was to ordinary this is another example of conviction that she had a special destiny and x.

Ordinary person like Myra, couldn't Marian ordinary man like Ronnie Sir. Enough. Myra managed to find a boyfriend who was as far from ordinary ass. She could get ten year old, my room at twenty three year old in nineteen sixty one. It would mark the greatest turning point in our life within years in would transform Myra from an ordinary charismatic young woman into a sadistic killer. Our story will continue in a moment after a brief message: high its Gregson Vanessa, and we have some news for all of our incredible cults listeners as it. Thank you for your wavering dedication and support. We re released, Eighty three episodes of serial killers from our back catalogue and are already in your feed and available to listen to right now. Do you have a favor, from these episodes. I really like our exploration of Harold Shipman, otherwise known as doktor death. I also

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And now back to our story. In the summer of nineteen, sixty one eighteen world Myra Hindley took a typing job at Millwards Chemical Distribution company, not long after twenty three year old, enjoying millwards in a book. Keeping position and Myra immediately became infatuated with them, Myra Road extensively about her crush on in her diary quote. I hope he loves and will marry me some day. End quote it safe to say that her infatuation with him bordered on obsession. She watched him for months like a predator, with its prey studied him. Really, there was a darkness to an even from a distance, but to Myra. He was in credibly cool and she found herself irresistibly drawn to him, where others, Son uninspired, aloof rebel Myra saw brilliance. My was coworkers shied away from me and whenever he had an expert,

about burst over a lost horse race, but Myra wasn't deterred. She began trying to get his attention but to no avail her greetings when ignored. So she did everything she could to get his attention. She died her hair, platinum blonde and hopes that he would notice she began stocking him finding excuses to stroll past else in finally took notice of Myra after she sat next to him at lunch. While reading the works of eighteenth century English, poet, William Wordsworth, in had never, had Wordsworth and was impressed that Myra was reading the poet by showing him that she was so an aspiring intellectual Myra peaked eons interest at the office christen. Party even made a move. He asked my right to dance. This dance would mark the beginning of a fusion, would in just a few short years become atomic, yet even their first dates showed a dark and malicious potential of the two budding lovers on their first date.

They saw movie nothing out of the ordinary there, except in took to see the Nuremberg trials? They listen to music gather sure, but it was Hitler. Marching socks and when they started to plan the future too, they're, even Myra, spent most of their time dreaming about robbing banks. As the relationship transsexual even began to reveal his enjoyment of sadism years later, my recounted their first sexual encounter, which took place after a night spent on about religion. She invited him and after walking home together from a movie and as things heated up, he made it very clear how much he liked violence in the bedroom. While my was descriptions of their sexual relationships varied over her years in prison. One thing was clear: even had no qualms about being a brutal lover there? First, together, Myra left covered in marks from where he bitten her

and, as time went on in introduced elements of media SAM in the bedroom and took to making pornographic recordings of their time together. While plenty of healthy normal people like to engage in media s m. In any case, his sexual finishes were another sign of his dark, violent desires. My wrist, first time with the end was anything but pleasant, but she couldn't bring herself to end. The relationship in was testing Myers boundaries seeing how many lines he could get her to cross as their relationship continued persuaded my red to let him photograph her naked and record them in sexual situations, merit changed, both in personality and appearance reinventing herself as the epitome of the area in german woman that she believed in desired. If in wanted it or loved it, Myra happy to entertain it. My will also enable the in your mouth What he wanted my route would go and get it forum where there was bus tickets.

Cigarettes sore eventually illegal guns, but even had something truly iii. He wanted Myra to do for him once he felt that he could trust her. Their conversations began to change. They no longer talked about fake robberies, Instead, he began sharing his desire to commit the perfect murder with Myra Eons confession did not thing to abate, Myra love for him. It almost makes me wonder if Myra had a form of paraphernalia known as high Bristow failure. We discuss this phenomenon before, but could you reminder list paraphernalia is a sort of sexual perversion or deviation and high Bristow failure is when a person achieves sexual pleasure by virtue of a violent partner, but it's not just physical violence that can spark this in someone you could boil down to being fuelled by disarray. Backed their instances when some one gains pleasure from dishonesty or betrayal. The act of being lie to end or cheated on, is arousing I Bristow failure

is most often attributed to someone who becomes aroused and gains pleasure from a person who has committed rape or murder, in Layman's terms, is referred to as Bonnie Inclined syndrome. So my was attraction to even major the perfect accomplice, exactly but to true understand my Iranians dynamic. We need to look at the different types of murdering pairs. Criminal psychologists have outlined what color classifications are we looking at here? Ok, let's go through them the first type of serial killer pair, is an equally dominant team. With these people, you have two parties who gain satisfaction from killing and are both equally willing participants. It still needs to be said that the woman in this pairing rarely does the actual, murdering and or torture there more often one aiding in the capture or restraining of the victim is it possible, for you My were to be classified as such an account of their time too there is certainly highlight Myra, a willing participant. True and Given how Myra enabled eons fantasies to become reality, it's not completely

out of the realm of possibility, but let's look at the other classifications. First, the next one is the extended family or group, pretty straightforward classification. You have groups ranging from actual families to cults, like the man and family about category doesnt saw what good are poised archilochus right, which is why I saved the best, last the dominant submissive partnership. I assume this for us to our relationship where one member of the parent takes the lead in the killing sets right according to prison, psychologists, Al Carlyle couples who murder together often consists of a dominant and submissive partner criminally the dominant submissive pair. Play a key role in enabling each other, the dominant partners pendant on the assistance of the submissive partner, who will frequently bait and lure victims for the more obvious, Predatory, dominant partner, the submissive partner, doesn't have to be an active participant in the physical aspects, but it's like

that the submissive partner finds enjoyment in watching the submissive partner is dependent on the approval and affection of the dominant and is willing to do anything to maintain the relationship. But how does this real killer, find the submissive accomplice, a serial killer, trolling for an accomplice will test a potential partners. Boundary to see if they found a kindred spirit. We conceive the weighty and slowly introduced taboo books sadistic sexual active, these and criminal fantasies into Myra life that he was testing her willingness to cross moral boundaries and by progressed slowly. The ever more loathsome fantasies in was able to indoctrinate my into his world view. Exactly wanted to see how far Myra would go to be with him, and my soon made it clear. She would do anything to be with an even commit murder, as stated

earlier in nineteen, sixty three about a year into the relationship and nearly two years after they found themselves working together in expressing Myra his yearning to commit the perfect murder. In order to do that, he was gonna need her help. The plan was simple: she would drive a van while he followed close behind on his signature, bad boy, motorcycle after he pick the victim. He would flashes headlights so that Myra would pull over and Co. The chosen victim, Inter Van once the victim was in the Van Miert, would drive her out to an agreed upon location or even would meet them, and even had a perfect location in mind, since he was a teenager, even had been having those hazy green visions of death in the wilderness, he wanted to fulfil his hallucinations of death by killing out on the uninhabited moors, for our american listeners, the moors, are swaths of low lying wasteland covered in PETE, MOSS and Heather on the night of July, twelfth nineteen sixty three

red drove down to Gordon Lane and her van in falling behind not a motorcycle. They were looking for their first victim soon spotted a little girl. Only seven eight years old who we wanted to murder. He flashes headlights, but my red didn't stop until they passed the girl in demanded to know why Myra ignored signal. She explained that the girl was Marie Rock a neighbour of her mothers. The fact that Marie was both young and familiar to Myra saved her life. That night, but even wasn't gonna give up. They continue to drive in tandem, and this time when he and gave the signal Myra stopped my profound yourself pulling up next to sixteen year old poet. Reed. Coincidentally, my were also new Pauline. The girl was a friend of my region, your sister marine, but Miss familiarity with Pauline didn't save the teenager, maybe Myra, didn't it act, because Pauline was older. Maybe my

I was worried that she had angry and by vetoing Marie Rock, whatever the reason Myra. Willing to save Pauline from in Pauline was adding to the school dance. So am I offered her ride after Paulie got in the Van Miert Pauline for help locating and expensive glove of hers that she had long start on the saddle worth more power. Was more than willing to take the detour to help her friends sister shortly after they arrive yet the saddle worth more enjoying them. My were explained Pauline that even was her boyfriend and he was going to help them find her missing glove in Lead Pauline further away on the moor and admire stayed behind. In the van for thirty minutes there no sign of e in or Pauline and for those thirty minutes, Myra did nothing but wait. Being returned. He had Myra company him unto the more where Pauline Reed was laid out. Throat cut

thing: undone and dishevelled Pauline wasn't quite dead, so even had Myra stay with her while he fetched the shovel he needed to bury her years later. Myra would confess that, while Eden did, explicitly tell her right then, and there that he's sexually assaulted Pauline. She was positive, that's exactly what he done, and yet she did nothing. Myra was so dependent on her relationship with the end that she didn't care that he had just raped and murdered. Her little sisters friend the couple buried Pauline and the more where she would remain unfound for over twenty years, and even in my reloaded eons motorcycle into the Van and drove on there back into town, they drove past Pauline mother and brother scouring the streets for the sixteen year old boy even in my renew, that search was in vain, the sleep These streets of Manchester were no longer safe,

A few months later, the couple found their next victim in November of nineteen sixty three, it was an Ordinary fall night in Manchester, as twelve year old John Kill bride worked in a market to earn some pocket change. He was a cheerful boy ways whistling his favorite tunes on his walks home. My were approached the boy asking for some help carrying some boxes to a car. That was the last time he was seen once again. Myra was responsible for luring in the victim. Yes, Johnson mother would later disclose that she taught him to be wary of men. He didn't now, but she never once The same warning should be extended to women. It makes sense, as currently as nineteen ninety eight an FBI profile or was allegedly quoting at a conference in saying there are no female serial killers. In nineteenth see three Manchester the idea that a seemingly friendly young woman, like Myra, would prey on, and murder young boys and girls was untenable if it weren't for

I was actions her ability to gain the trust of her victims, its power, simple. None of them would have ended up on the more after my red lured, twelve year old, John into a car, they drove to saddle worth more in sexually assaulted and strangled the young boy. The killers burn, Johns, close took photographs of the boys body, and then buried among the more at a site. The couple had picked out in advance. They even took a photo of my reposing on top of Johns grave with her puppy? This photo would help disprove, Myerst claim in her unpublished, autobiography that even forced her to take part in the killings. It was very apparent in these grisly memorial photos that she enjoyed marking the memory of the children they murdered? Seven sceptre murdering John, kill bride. In Myra struck again. They spotted twelve year old, Keith Bennet walking to his grandmothers house. He never made it to its destination

In my reward, Keith into their car and drove him out to saddle worth more just like with John Kill bride, seven months before in sexually assaulted and strangled Keith pen. It at this point in my was murders, were carefully planned and executed with the section of their photographs. They were meticulous about avoiding witnesses and disposing of evidence, but even after murdering three children, eons perverted desires couldn't be satiate his monstrous need to rape and murder. Young boys and girls only increased with me by his side as his enabler and procure of young children in big and to grow increasingly confident in his ability to kill and get away with it. Our story will continue in a moment right after the break now Our story continues in September of nineteen. Sixty four

the in Brady in my were Hindley began, inviting over at eleven year old Neighbour named Patricia an Hodges Patricia had six siblings and the fair he was according to Myers account not well off enough to afforded television. My run even gave Patricia there divided attention when she visited their home, offering eleven year old, glass after glass of wine, Patricia, would frequently have up to four glasses of wine on her visits with the couple and their visits weren't confined to house in my red drove, Patricia out to saddle worth more yet, despite the fact that even had read and murdered every other child that the couple had taken to saddle worth more even did not lead Patricia to her death. On that first trip to the more the threesome spent. The trip chatting and drinking wine after an evening spent corrals

in my return, Patricia safely home. The question is: why Patricia dolly two doors down from the couple. Maybe they thought it would be too suspicious if they killed her on that initial trip, but even in my red, didn't stop inviting Patricia over after that initial uneventful trip to the more they continued spending time with the young girl and the couple began, taking Patricia out to saddle with more with them several times a week, Patricia even accompanied the couple on walks across the WAR and they walked right past the graves of environments, victims during the same age, ass, Patricia for reason, known only to the killers Patricia did not join the killers, other victims in an unmarked grave on them, yet eons admirers behaviour grew increasingly suspicious. They took photographs Patricia in their home, which they carefully saved They let Patricia see them bringing bags of soil back from the more and more. Chillingly of all. They asked between

to read aloud and newspaper account about the search for there are twelve year old victim John Kill bride, Patricia had no idea that the couple was secretly recording her creating yet another grisly momentum of their killings. This pattern of behaviour is remarkably dip from what we have already seen of e en Myra, with their first three killings, the pair were careful to avoid witnesses and repeated encounters with their victim and while their first victim Pauline Reed was also a neighbour in my red, did not spend time befriending her before taking her to the more and murdering her. So why the sudden change in behaviour may Myra was fond of the girl, though I doubt in had any true affection for the child. After all, in thought, people were maggots, children included, maybe even had grown tired of his normal way of killing children. Maybe he wanted to up Anti on his own sadism by befriending and

rooming a young girl before killing her. But by spending months hanging out with Patricia my rent in drawing attention to themselves Patricia family knew she spent time what the couple There was no easy way for them to kill the little girl without casting suspicion on themselves may be so, but by the fall of nineteen. Sixty four in had grown cocky. He thought he could get away with anything and as the months tick by after twelve year old keys, murder in the summer of nineteen? Sixty four eons need to kill again only grew stronger. He couldn't contain his blood lust for long as fall turned winter. Eleven Euro Patricia had no idea in an myra we're getting ready for their necks, kill on Christmas Eve should talk to your mother into letting her spend the evening with the couple. It was one thousand one hundred and thirty p dot m when

We're drove the child down the dark, abandoned road to saddle worth more, but something was different. That night Myra wasn't planning to take Patricia home. She told Patricia She could spend the entire night at saddle worth more shockingly Myra and IE and did not kill Patricia that night and my redraw Patricia off at her home at one thirty in the morning he was Christmas Day my didn't kill a cup a strike. My relator claimed they genuinely like the girl and felt sorry for her. But I doubt this is what saved young Patricia Life more light clearly in finally realise just what a huge risk you would be taking if he killed a neighbour whose mother knew she was with them, but he couldn't wait any longer after letting Patricia He needed a new victims, the day after Chris

Miss in Myra found another child. The two killers were about to commit their most notoriously sadistic murder. Thank you for joining us on part. One of our exploration of Brady in my recently join its next week. As we continue discover and discuss the truly despicable actions of the serial killer couple we have much more to learn about the inner workings of the minds of both in Myra and therefore the young victims, while their killings- may have only lasted a few short years. The saga these two lovers spans multiple decades and to this day supplies and hearts the families of their young victims and the Manchester Community as a whole. Come back week, as we take a look into some of the biggest questions surrounding the horrors that unfolded in Manchester half a century ago?

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