Welcome to start off your place in the universe where science and pop culture align our talk begin right now. This is the start of sports addition near the rest face in your personal astrophysicist end today we're gonna be discussing three. kinds of olympic activities, first fast pools. Second, can you hit a target and archery target If you have no arms, will check that admit admits. and we're gonna end with the one and only doctors skateboard a new feature of the Olympics this year, the twenty twenty Olympics, of course being contested in twenty twenty one. I got with me the one and only dairy, Riley Jerry. I knew

to be here due to I was taught Tom people stumble if you got a wiki page of young and the time you're a probe pro footballer. Never? The UK are proud of that. So congratulations on that and it also sports com, potato there before you join started, and I too think you're still a sports com still. I think he s ship, sharing their expertise with us. I could not find a wiki page on czech vice we're gonna Jack S, because I don't I don't have legs it's nice girl, when you aren't you gonna, Gary's, Wikipedia Short short life, where's sorted out again, everyone everywhere and that man has got some gamma ray he's got some great lay so so check your

a comedian and a long time, start talk, co host an actor of late delighted to see when all these things and an age when you now that we knew you when ok, whereas you as you ascend, yeah, well I'm not going anywhere you're, not gonna, get you can't. You can't get rid of me. I gotta top couple tv shows that he's got no like hell. I'm not I'm right. Here I sit where I saw you at a time commercial, with your with your daughter, so you're you're everywhere. That's good, very good. Canada go and keep it going, so we determined the limits which dates back to, of course, ancient Greece when I think life were simpler, but I bet back then they didn't think so. No one ever said she like a simple today knows ever said that ever yet to look back on it and say it was simple then, and they didn't even know it but generally have when we look back on their life and we got cod, we have it so

so the the modern Olympics, which is what is called the expected eighteen. Ninety six, and they try to sort of jumpstart the traditions of ancient Greece. Some sports were all the ones then were included. I think they not all of them and but somewhere added, and course, the ones most people cared about in the day, we're tracking field. today. Many many more events are part of this. This this contest, this every for your contest and for this first segment, we're gonna talk about swimming pools swimming this one of the events as it as a category. We record seem to be dropping all the time. Every limb picks and is like it. What are they is it? Some did some change with a water? Is there some? Is there some thing about the bathing suit. Is this? Is it the ball head that you shave what's going on there and so What we need is someone who's thought about this

an engineer this star talks? I'm gonna brings and we say Hence the shit out of this, as as Matt Damon said from the surface of Mars, or at least his character, did and we got an old friend of the show, Judd, reedy job. Welcome back to start talk, hi guys like you and me that your basic George Attack, and Georgia. I think even your campus co hosted the ninety nine years six olympics. Although the lady at ninety nine is that with the city of Atlanta, I'd love it and your deputy director of innovation initiatives for the George Attack Institute for materials, These materials is one of the hidden things that purposefully hidden, but just no one thinks about it. It doesn't make headlines but news tough shows up on the shelf without new properties and I think of you ever turn that happen. I just want you to know

we were there. I love you yesterday when we were at work. As you know, we always have the dossier on everybody, and I was like I'm wonder. As the chief like research engineer, do, do you ever come up with some time ago? a notice to good. I got you got a lot about. Patents will do people to ourselves as a little bit of not forever here, because you yeah as your principle, research engineer the at the Georgian Tech Research Institute, G, T r- I not quite an acronym but will will take it because could stuff happens there. So let me ask you something: swimming pools. You know if you see somebody was like eight gold medals around the neck. They probably got it for swimming and in recent years we think of Katy. Would Jackie and Michael Phelps, of course, and so I've Markov doesn't count. He has killed Michael thousands related to that that whatever that thing was in the shape of water

less visible progress regarding throughout the movie. The movies that movie, if you ever look at Micro, felt he almost kind of looks like that little sea modest ethics got be flappy fee to like they might have really webbed. You know that certain very assets. What's what's going on. We just getting better org is something happened and on the back end of that, where the poles are getting faster and if they any faster, how does it get fat is just water? I know the properties of water from chemistry and fishing, What are you what's going on, and I know you ve been thinking about this? It's is all about and serve the materials as well as just the technology for the main problem with water is the resistance created by the others members that we just ran once when were the time a lot of those technologies we introduce wouldn't be necessary, but when you put, eight members, big huge six foot strap and many women in there. they displays a lot of water and great waves and those waves create pressure creators.

To refuse me or not, if you're in the lead, if you do be single single like make a third rate terrorism about you got everybody else. It wait who just who stole, whose behind your right our plans as a good thing, though, have not wake behind her one of Philips else's metals was viewed by one of his teammates than the relay riding the wake of the oh. It was The world record order from France right in his and then right up last minute surfing over top of the wake and then several powerful strokes to win, and you can see it right on the footage whilst we wasted, so you think so, some of the rather, whereas my raising sport like while the drafting likely right just like these, do the same thing when the going through the air. it was done the same thing? It is a move towards the limelight. Given the geese. Didn't take your course in Georgia,

so? How did you know the nightly like alarming fact used to have given us shouted? I don't fly over again for large scale, get a matter if the weight, if the waves, if all of this turbulence in Nepal, is your major problem and we ve built, pulls out a concrete for ever and ever every seems. How has it been overcome gather spring of her ways? Rather we do it here at Georgia, Jack we ve got. The vast has borne the United States. The first is that we ve got tremendous pumping power to recirculated water. You wanna recirculated, and wept excise pool airy at least every four hours to keep the algae growth in everything down so that sixty gallons at least first, I dont tell me the algae, prevent you from swimming faster data. It does because one pomp and keep the boy clear and so by pumping that water so fast you ve got gutters to extract it, and then you have to return it to the pool and so are those rules. Are you saying

that they create said Jerry. I am at any poor. There is current with that. That circulate the Waterford for preparation and if we did that in this pool with sixty gowns per second, we would create a very noticeable current that the inside and outside lands would but experience, and so instead we send it through the bottom, through these things, all results which, like a mushroom, that allows the water to come up and sweep everything to the sides that cuts down on them The other is the gutter system that the waves as the wave reaches the wall. It falls off into the gutter Robin hitting wall and bouncing back and then the third third thing you could wave just love to reflect office surfaces and that's waves and waves and services go way back and adaptable is important as well for that wave. The olympic pool here as well as Tokyo, there three metres deep. So that's like ten feet, ivy

and any other ethnic origin is that the depth of what a poor folks workin. Yet, although all the opinion polls are always is both that as well as the rhythmic swimming and Ivan Pool, actually five meters be pursued. We have the bond for that course, so you ve got those side drains gent. Then that means the pull has to be completely full overhaul and that we leave you know what these eight strapping, young men and women jump into this ball. They displaced that equal volume water just like. If you drop an ice cube and integration, water, so that always, if you aren't archimedes here to use, yeah, yeah yeah, I get Reuben Water and so what's topsy flooding. So you you have to keep

sucking then away every time that they doing so. You really have to have a complete system as a whole for circle pulling closed system. That's that's overfilled slightly, because you don't want air ticket and trained into be such an system because outbreak invitation on your honor compellers are your pop causa those two breakdown prematurely as well. So many things you, your system, dampens the waves as they have the war it's, but I can't do anything about the waves until they get there so Sophie Lane, one in lane aid or whatever the edge lanes. Are you going he'll everybody else's way before it gets deadened to your left sovereignty. Up now that I've got those paddle, we'll wait providers and in fact, here in Europe we actually used to side by side so that the powder wheels absorb. Wake from the lanes immediately to you and and also those serve a I thought it was. just to show those guys if you work out under not not stationary, they spend

as the way absorbs that energy events. If we're going over there, we found the reason what widens certainly records of this very poor, that we used to lay lines along there. to dampen at even further I. So why doesn't every fool have this year could stop? I guess we're Father PAN monetarism. Now by ninety percent went off, then the discount, the gold medals with world records at your poor women start doing that. Actually, until a couple years ago, in fact after this week incidents that occurred and people became kind of aware of this. That was in the early two thousands. No one else was one of those, and so I didn't happen if you look at the footage from nineteen, six olympics? Not only is there a single lay line, but the starting lots of changes well starting blocks. There are flat hours now, they're incline.

why? Why didn't anyone figure out that you might wanna incline the starting blocks long ago, if his right, so the yunkers you're approaching off of something I mean in track like nobody start flat rate. He writes a white light. Is this take so long to Federer, while the first starting black was nineteen? Thirty six, the Berlin a webpage was literally just a wooden box. There was bolted due to the poor back and that's what they stuck with her got slightly better. They started using battles, but up until the ninety six Olympics, it was told us a centrally a box, but a metal flat surface that had an anti slips offers on top of it, and I was really I do agree with your toes ground

onto the edge, and so I went back and looked at the footage and all the members, except for a couple, are always to footed on the flat pearl in their toes over where there is only a few sprinter styles. But after that eliminates the incline, firstly inclined the surface to add it, and then they added an additional incline. So it was too in fine style. Something push off with and so get your starting What that extra? Just like us policy, too inclined you mean for the two different fee. Yet now a well yeah so to one foot on on that. One puts pushing on the back pedal so you're like a sprinter and attract exactly right. Ok, very cool! I just did you pull her ten lines or guidelines? You're all olympic Poles have Why is, but you lay zero. Alain nine are not occupied evident. That would reduce the impact on this. One is on the sidelines. Am I correct in thinking like that, then? Yes, they do not have that that swimmer, so you would want want those others downs.

eyes and that if any of your right hand a breather or left in a broader, sometimes you're not able to see your competition, perhaps on the critical final leg. So that would do me maintained Arlette. What is that s lane, because the and why do they always give the fastest to the best com? Superstition are we with horses and everything? I think life works. I would pick line for, but now I think a lot of it depends on just your train, Your strategy like, even though we are introducing these things in that swimsuits there's a lot of biomechanics that will go into a job we can provide all the thing, but when it comes down to it is the human in the loop. That's really makes a difference. Well, maybe, then, you wouldn't have a job, so stick with the technology? What are we gonna actually brings two to a close, but it's been a delight to have you back on and sorry is only one segment because as a lot we ve been covering for our would pick, detention would be giving to the one picks, but

like I said you're in one of my favorite, feels material science and the more people know about what you do, that I think the better off will all be so happy job so thanks again for being on star talk and when we come back, we're gonna talk to an ace archer who happens to not have I told you tat. regret start sports, we're talking about the Olympics Series these programmes, where we just trying to figure out what's how on it work

and all the ways that science might be informing six. So Gary We have for this segment. We have the most wonderful, interesting, Astley Paralympic, statesman one silver in the London Olympics in twenty twelve Guineas world record for the most accurate arrow shot at a target of distance by any individual three hundred the ten yards, that's three fulfils all the line. then and then say now. Go into the Parapet Olympic Games in an individual silver in the paper in the Games Gregor Rocket MAC. Welcome. Welcome to start ought to have been driving test, I'm gonna hunting trip and take a new gown do you ever hunt the you bear hunting with a bow

you know I have it. I have a baronet yet because I feel like if I don't do good view or taste me down in trouble my arms to I, that a more appendages but no more limbs limbs for you. Let me have, could you just explain how forgive my naivete here, but how do the Paralympics work? I presume Each sport has its own rules about what needs to be your circumstances in order to participate. So in the case of the Paralympics, Archer how what are the rules about it, so the division that man is basically there look at. It the least amount of disability possible. So pretty much everybody in my group of, but they are a hundred all of them have most of their disabilities are from the waist down

whether they're paralyzed have to be in a wheelchair or they lost a leg, and they have to spend on a prospect that there's different categories, but that's the most competitive category and that's why I want to be because I just want The best you about areas, really you just showing off doing less do agree on is a me there's a guy. You know like I've, a prosthetic leg, and you know I can hear the target from a hundred yards in your life, I don't have aren't. You have opted out from back into it from the three times the dissidents and is already by that's how about together. He wins every argument here. There's no argument to have many hands down. You know I'll get. My analyst rode back a little bit here. These guineas book of records, which you oh outright, Someone was saying to me that when you attempted this because of the cross wins you had to

aim at air conditioning unit on a building in a completely different place to hit the target, What is going also that the air, so that the air would move it onto the target. We have to know that in advance. Is that what he saw, the roles that you have used, a sixty pounds bow and you only gives three attempts at you ever to make, yet the call your memory drift wait for the non archers when you say sixty pounds, that's the force necessary to pull the Sakharov act. not that both ways, sixty pounds just to be clear, is that the can help pushes the arrow forward sixty pounds, wait! Thirty pounds! You be Hercules, happily bigger our about one but Sonia. Yes, to figure out how to shoot that far away. When you do the math, you have the aim at a certain angle. You know like whether it

thirty two degrees or whatever. That is, and you have to calculate the arrow speedily and so for me. It just so happens that, where I needed to aim to calculate all this to activate the bull s eye, I ain't got a air conditioning unit across the street at like a high rise building and if I happen to be like right in the perfect place, I was aiming at bat and all my calculator. That's where it ended up being so you're, not only at expert Roman you're, snipers. two intuitive scientist them that's the hallmark of a great sniper. Is that originally adjust for cross winds in and distance mare. Now we need a poster we needed poster with mad with it, with the target pit and end the captain, just as do the math?

because he might include aspect, simple question: how many times did you hit the air conditioning you'd? That's it churchyard. You should amazed that was you drop out so the air conditioning the killed three people in this world growth when they never actually found out. It was me because I don't leave fingerprints to prove it was me, that's what we're wasteful man They ask another naive question and forgive me it's the sound so that a right so do you have an advantage over those who, who would have lost their arms later in life you having. In born with no arms, so you only.

ever have known life with norms and absolutely there's an advantage eyes its funding, because when I first got an archway there like there's no way you can shoot about. You have no are it's impossible? You have to use your arms shoot about then I started shooting abandon their likewise Others, like an annual limit any aimed at them here's allocation. That would be a great argument. There's no way you can shoot a book I guess I was the last word on Tuesday. I do if I was wrong, but I guess how I ever started: shooting there was a there were. They were like a tv show like that, a stiff, come I got news and they said Armas man went over by shots several people along the way, his body. But yes, why,

but your brain has never known, or I saw you not fighting a pre expectation of what you can hear if they tested my brain and they said that the average persons brain at the area of their brain controls their feet. Motor skills is the size of a p and minds like besides. I like a software. Well, my brain and you all this extra staff with my feet. I probably said we don't need handlers, throw that trunk of the brain out and will use that to store foot, I guess so that we may serve for those only hearing this week. I can describe that. Your looks like you're sitting, Some kind of a garage workshop. There's some bad ass looking vehicle over your. left shoulder, but would it what's going on, and that is what it is, that of a set of safe house Is there a banker? Were you do know something with reference by keep my arms that way the people in the house of think I can't do anything but

very serious about Isle of cars, and I love working on cars at you. Almost all the work, myself behind you right here is my race car that I just got guns building in fixing up short term. It would tell me about some of your science background. Abusive use, you sound at produce, you sound sufficiently physics flu went through. That tells me you must have some physics in your portfolio. To be honest, not a lot of it, is kind of like soft heart grown up farm that there were two shrilly arm and I had to a lot of times. Think of how I was going

like, for example, I remember I was like eight years old and my dad said I needed to carry this five gallon bucket of feet off the trial, and I had to figure out how I was going to take a barn and put it across from one feed bucket and then stand up underneath it and balance, and I had to figure out like I was either the measuring stick, trying to find the middle of a steaks when I left it up on it. They wouldn't fall. You know, so there was things like that throughout my whole life that I had to rely on unlike physics, a map to describe overcome things really cement Euro father of three boys right so how do you? How do you do the super dad heroic home? While you prepare to go to Paralympics in Tokyo and write a car tat you now what's amazing about my boys is just like they don't know any

This is who they now. This is their dad. They go along with my craziness, whether I'm shoot him about work and cars. They just support me. In fact, they are one of the biggest motivations of my life and wife wish myself to wear a mad because without them pushing me, I mean that's honestly how I fell in archer in the first place because I nobody would hire me and I kind I couldn't figure out how to get a job because people would say you have no arms, and so they would hire me. So I found archery to put food on the table for them. So if it wasn't for them, I probably would have done this. I would have been trying to figure out while self man ass, I am reminded of an episode- is thanks, in the family, Bulgaria has ever minor me, and I don't have it was Twilight Zone One step beyond one of these sort of half our short story: format: tv series from nineteen sixties, where there's this kid middle school cater younger.

in school and in our class they beard muddling clay and they had to make a mockery way model of their hero, and so one person Superman and then Thorn and one person just I'm doing my father. Ok, Annie doing this clay thing and he can He gave it one arm and the teachers no pity other arm no deserted and then later on, the teacher meets the Father and the Father just got one hour and it was Oh my gosh that Father went to go on and star in the fugitive, this is. The point is, like you said that if it, if that just is life- and you don't know any different- you're, not in a position to judge it or that it just is, and then you live life and celebrate life for being alive. Let me ask you this: when it comes to the outer edge of targets for this out there and I've tweeted this tutors I've been thinking about this and more time, and I thought I wonder if Octopus is pity

humans for have few limbs. We have kids, they ve got eight. I read so we use what what are the mechanics behind you shooting yeah yeah through what that is about. As I'm explain it. I can also show you Not really I was aware, and because many people will only hear this will be a little discreet, more descriptive than you otherwise would be. I sell their frightening air is a release aid that I had made. This is the only modification that I used to shoot my boat. So when you look at about or when you listen or in your mind, visualizing above oh I'm shooting a normal bow that you would buy off the shelf that you use a shoot with your hands like they didn't specifically make this both for me whatsoever, and let s there's the impotent rulings with general. So and even even this thing

So my shoulder a year is within the rules. So what on earth is a kind of a yoke around refilled, a draft that goes on and eat my armpits and across my chest and then exciting it up and over my right shoulder. I have a releasing the looks like a trigger maybe like a gun or something like that and has to unburden embargoes on my chin. So I'm aiming at all my shoulder. That applies pressure to download trigger, which allows the boat a shoot. So it is this a buddy. Did your chin or your teeth that that lessons I put my mouth Look it under the boat hook it onto the bow and pull back with your soldier that causes the boat to combat. But then I have to do is put your Jim down around the release and then the hook pulls up yet, M Bang, Bang, so so this body of any use

as above, I am actually gonna use at the games in it is shooting a little anybody. Guinea arrow, I know you guys are going to just stop this airways. Poor honoured, in twenty nine grains, It's out of my bow at two hundred miles per hour out, o my cell literally at play fire the bow woman. You gotta see this went by time. This arrow hit the target which is going to be about three or four feet away from me. It's already doing two hundred miles per hour, so it would be a tuner miles an hour, the instant it separates from a strategy, and so big That's the last moment where it's getting any energy that you supply and then the rest is just is aerodynamics and gravity at that point, ok, I know seated slow down our a period of three hundred and ten yards, but you haven't circulate that ensue.

You know how much they gonna throw down. I know what I did I saw it was about six second arrow fly. Ok, so you have to so you had to shoot wherever that commissioner was, it was sure, the higher went to the side of the target, because the cross wins, but also who had been above the target gravity, is you have to allow the air to draw? It was about money, twenty eight thirty thirty two degree. Angle that I was in the air thirty two degrees are, as I think, that gotcha La South. I rest above people looking at sea, basketball against my left leg and I'm staying in a fair. I use my right foot pick up the arrow and load it onto the bow like that. I didn't use my right leg and grab the bow, and I pick it up and I sit gentleman style where I cross my legs but kind of brings my right foot up

Just at this point I think merrily say, and I've been down to the string and voted on in our little guy. I think the Boa and so now is very weird. Awkward. Young opposition thought this boy, I'm gonna take I ran away from my chest. And now you're. Now you get that sixty pounds. Of course, I guess that's what it looks like The target my job and then pressure evaluates ban. Does then that that result in those eyes and metals Lastly, smiles you ve got to do it. You got a certain number of arrows to release in a set period of time. That's him!

tens, how are you controlling? How are you able to die yourself down and focus in the middle of competition? The essay should seventy two air for followed occasion, and you should six arrows at a time and he get format the shoe each six arab group, and then he got score them Poland's that, but when I do that, I'm sorry this down on that when I did. When I draw my ball back, I don't know who is around me in practice. The timing I do a lot of mental prep. What a good shot feels like so since that will shoot in Tokyo is fifty meters and the ball What does nothing for you? They all thy smaller, rigid his hand, you the metal, and then you keep the balls eyes as smaller than a city so perfect, a perfect score is seven hundred and twenty,

science and the world record is seven hundred and five and the last several monsters. I've been shooting the practice about seven or eight. The seven twelve range. Again we can be action. Your ass o my earth, this year's been amazes me, his farm Smith's lad. I just got back with trials and beat the old world record by twelve points are not only allowing one point is what they are now on the new record so

ass, a man is to records thats a desolate. I compare said he, I wonder now, so I ever drag seven hundred points at fifty meters gay. The number one ranks able bodied archer in the world sheets, for a United States of America and on the same day on the same feel when they were shooting their scores. They saw a seven o or maybe- and I thought seven hundred so that I'm only like three or four points off the number one able bodied archer in the world so as a comparison right, yeah. Well, there is no comparison. You make him look like dog food, three real here, so that when you did, when you broke up, do you all of a sudden get a lot of attention? Because of who you are yeah yeah

and the other athletes garrison was sort of attention, and is that kind of blood mouth? But for you you change your grown, obviously into this attention, and is it is it all. You know what I've been here before I'm not faced by this, or do you see the other athletes getting kind of outside of their comfort zone with the attention of a fair, you know what I mean. That's interesting as I've been my whole life. to attention and what I mean by that is is it can be negative attention to like people? Naked gonna make us out no arms or like I'm at a restaurant species. Here, specifically at a restaurant with my seat and everybody in restaurants staring at me right, so my whole life, I've been able to say you know I don't care what they think they do me. None of that bugs me like. I don't care, I'm in a block amount. So when it comes to arbitrary and I get and others on the on the stage of it means something in me out. Thousands of you,

watching. I don't even know that they're there, whereas let's say for you, let's say I'll, say I'm shooting you know against Gary or something he's never been in that situation right So you ve got a nice even further metal, but you never saw content. Ten thousand people before. So there is an advantage for me now. You know because I have a life and they haven't been Youtube. The gray standard, comic hey you got it. You got to have that you got to have that same mentality, but I don't care if these people not laughing. No, only shock has to fuel area actually wearing. So I'm delighted by how much physics you picked up in your life and as Gary said, a lot of it would have come intuitively to you. If you didn't have the formal training you thinking about. Nature and forces and energy the right way, and on this show, we delighted to learn when athletes throw in some math

to get their metal, and so man has been a pleasure to have you on programme. We will all be watching you in Tokyo. and good good luck, but it doesn't even sound like you need, and I thank all the good lad. I appreciate guys in the shouts been amazing about. Alas, thank you again. Thank you. We're gonna take a quick break. I want to thank Mr Cashman for being on, for the second, and when we returned we're, gonna have doctors, skateboard, and yet another one of our olympic installed How can you get your own patriotic shadow, like Michael Weber, just in Nelson and MIKE Reno, well go to polyantha coms last starred talk, radio and support us, and thank you to Michael Justin

MIKE because without you we couldn't do this show rock star talks or traditional we're talking about the Olympics AIR, this segment, we're going to address skateboarding the I said it date boarding? It is a new olympic sport Gary Do we know anybody? Would you would you get for the segments where that There's only one telephone number that we needed and this guy can drop the science and he can drop tricks. This has to

the Robinson, a guy doctors keyboard is, is fine by me and ass? A let's give him he's, prompts ok Phd in education selected as a Fulbright scholar, nominated by the. U T pay into south you tap through what I know your British, that you'd have universal taxes are passer. I thank you for you tat for professor of the. it is a TED Yang Professor here, ok, I know the deuce some jobs and then, He gave him a board and he's two times you s, masses champion two thousand thirteen fourteen is three times must Freestyle champion and he is in Freestyle home of so freestyle means you you'd do creative staff that no one ever undreamt of doing, and then you get remember for it. I would like, is provided you don't die from those people

the biggest selection affected member, so bill doctors skateboard. I resonate deeply with you. As I know, you're assigns educator, and but in what ways have you folded skateboarding in two that enterprise I'd be delighted to learn how to pay? You figure that out- and I add my notes Here- says you caught action science. So, what's going on there well so originally started. I was a middle school teacher in New Mexico trying to get people interested in physical science concepts and the kids admin sport is very difficult and challenging they didn't like the traditional experiments of a one day I decided is called hormones using nuclear middle school is not, I. I don't think I like these traditional expire, that is and what's growing food or not at all sure, but bringing my board out. You know made up made a difference and you know I could present things about forces, motion, units, laws, emotion and things we had to cover and

they were they. They really enjoyed it. So I sort of started my journey with that. You not been a long time, skateboard performer, so just worked on the ideas of integrating you know of physical science concepts related to force. This motion in small emotion and simple machines, into that approach and edit it took off from their not only using the escape boarding, but other action sports Bureau be MAX and other ways to try to connect kids to things there interested in and then also to the science. So, to put what, if you will put the action size was putting physical science in the context of things young people like to do I love educator

who can stop telling people crossing and used to say when you're in love, you want to tell the world, and so your lover skateboarding and you just full that in too, where every word, whatever the lesson plan is going to be very good. You Nazis, Sweden, bra your loan and say doctor when we get to deal in pigs and by beside it. Sir, it's a Dave, you first skateboarding, You got two categories: streets and pop out. Well, I'm ass three street Skateboarding Street skateboarding and part. Now me: what can we expect from those two cattle? So in both the disciplines park in and street skateboarding, you got forty of the best women and men athlete said each area competing for a leper metal says it's gotta be quite interesting, be the street. Is

merrily, something you would see with rails and stairs and ran yeah. It's in a weed everything you ve ever seen on you too good night. That's right! Watch me! Grinders cell baby, forgot old. I'm sorry well know that at the top athlete is number one an Israeli are unaware by the name and I just used in blue eyes. is all over the place and visa, I think, argued our best chance for forego, but that that we have a strong team both on the men and women side and then other parts star. You have really transition bowl riding bigger transitions and I you have really a good team. There is Well so they're they're kind of two unique disciplines in state border would not say been viewed as a ball. Writing should be recognized by bowl right a yes vote. We the sides or curved any sort of rock up in back.

this accident? Who that you know it's a dozen loosen homes? So what can we expect? What kind of tricks are we going, be seeing what kind of language are we gonna becoming a wife? in what part of Newton are you using the most? That's what I want I think a lot of times. It's you know with this idea of action. A reaction is one of the things I comes across in them and the science you know as they're, moving towards obstacles or are working with the going back going back to Europe. What what can we expect? You know, you're gonna see, I think some really interesting things like God, take flip blood slides down rails, you're gonna, see three sixty flips across stairs you're, going to see in the bulls things like five forty them. twists, you're going to see what has to be clear. Five. Forty is three sixty plus one, eighty okay, so that would be

One and a half ass? Just so I just liked it the the geometric angular measure of this instead of saying one and a half weeks would do no five. Forty, you count now the degrees of delivering good, very mathematical, of you. Ok, I'm so sorry that's the that's the big thing and then and then the riders are going to have you do it. Timed runs and they'll, let you know they'll be judged on not only their degree of difficulty but their creativity and then lay there amplitude ants and a few other categories. So you can kind of tell your whose shining in those moments but you'll, see the best riders I'm just curious part person, I'm sorry it. I wanted to two things when I see a boarding, and then I see in the winter Olympics they have their of what is called abortion, oboes, nobody's, ok, happen in the event that the in the half pipe in the winter Olympics at all times, they are descending a hill.

Ok, whatever else is doing in the middle of it. so they're using gravity as a force of their full of their forward motion, whereas in skateboarding you are pump. Bring your action almost the way you do on a swing. Where how do you go from nothing to a big arc? You are, pumping your own body energy, into your motion. So is it true that all skateboarding you're, describing maybe other than the going downstairs, but the it's a bowl stating that the park escape you do not going downhill, you're, always company your own energy back into your new position is accurate. Yet that is correct. You know you're going to be using the transitions as a way to to push down em to gain speed and enter to go out the transition to bring self into the air. Europe you're probably see very little pushing accept. There's someone is moving through a trip, but they're going to be using

the momentum of the obstacles to to ride the balls and do the tricks and created is an important distinction, then, between the skateboarding and working for me yeah. So what's the most we can subject, because I read that is an during quarantine. an eleven year out through a ten eighty into unapproachable rap now. Even eleven year old can do it doctor skateboard. Surely the top people in the world should be working on a harder. Well, you know I've been. Do my math attend eighty, that's for along we feel like you're welcome when, in the ideal world ten eighty is like the resolution, ten ATP, so The tenet, a circle doctors, cape, we're talking about a ten Eddie. What is there to attend? Eighty would be if you got three sixty one, seven, twenty eight and eighty so be free revelations or three spans. You know on that and dates Gary theirs. Discipline, it's called a mega rail,

it's not in the Olympics, but something they do other than that's how this person was able to do that. These are much larger structures and So you know you really need a bigger scale to do that, but you will see things here, I'm inconceivably in a five forty, seven twenties you'll see a lot of also motion where their spinning, but there also flipping their board, so you'll see like cake. Flip burials tick flip make twist, which are you know where you're spending the border three sixty and your spinning five forty and the degree of difficulty goes way up. For that. yeah, so so what are you up? I don't know if it's gonna be a part of it or not, but either Mega Rambert, Bert drops gonna, be a part of the competition. Would. What is that with our dutch escape would explain it

You know cause he's the omega reverberate on men are wrapped. You have a large ramp, it's probably datum. Six stories are brought into line. You hit a around there's a gap. It usually fifty to seventy feet that they go across and then I had a huge quarter by you know, which is probably fifteen to twenty feet high. and then they go fifteen or twenty feet high above the little they land. In the first wave Dewey tricks, Ok, so so that would be, that would be a gravity assisted maneuvers at that point. Yes, yes, yes, I guess that's in the next Olympic Games today they ve limited, get other types of skateboarding. So that's one of the things I think is both a plus and criticism. Is you ve got these two disciplines, Bull already, but skateboarding has you know a much larger phenomenon that is actually not just a sport, it's a culture,

and I had an extends everywhere that people live in and rather bored steps ahead of sports everyone so Have we got any technology that emerged in the last couple of years, despite this being a couple of years since we last spoke and we got things like sealed, bearings and things like that, but turn has anything new coming to make us for even bet your bill in your educational circle. Others newtons laws and then there's material science yeah. So what are you waiting for that in gas, adding another well, think about escape, or is it actually state pretty stable and its component since the nineteen seventies, and specifically, with the advent of your thing wheels, it really made a difference in but the one thing you do see now skateboarding. As you say, more customize doors are different designs on deck shape. So

so people are really using the weather the length and though the wheel base adapts to to differentiate themselves. But skateboarding is pretty much stayed the same since we last start. You know it is a board to trucks and four wheel, you're not going through their style. The wheels can vary and hardness. You can have the seal bearings, but I think ultimately it is a pretty stable technology is self employed. Laminate, you know, maple is typically what it started in it. You know said under pressure to to create a concave in that's another big difference over the years that the concave or they ve, come contours was moored, have really helped a writer stay on their boards, rather than just a flat born itself. Plus, if it, if its, if it has the kind of give you can the energy that you goes into now to the form it can be recovered. the jump off of it right as any good sort of spring action would be

Here's what I want in two thousand and twenty eight olympics I'll, give it one olympic cycle we get there. I want the Hover board event. how do they do have a weight? You know They do have a hover bore. A third area was yet that was actually sponsored by lapses, where what's they make a super cool doctor and day make the hub aboard a ride on like that and that superconductor, where it levitate above this magnetic these magnetic whales and you ride the hubbub word around their little track. Its escaped were forgotten. That's it about eight years I'll, give it eight years feels right. Ok, No, I don't see how you feel about how rewards well give something

I'm on a purist, you know I gotta grew up and back the involves the skin off my old school guys. So you know I am. I am all about four wheels to trucks aboard and and the ground. As you know, I like that. So are you going to talk you? You know that I am not going to Tokyo, but I've been actually been working with some of the people from USA. State boarding a couple friends who were involved with that it out and so that its been abstaining, touch about what's happening there all preparing to leave here- probably I think by July twenty third and got your servants to empty just first to have you on the show, but also to know that your expertise is helping Sworder marker try to get Metals in this inaugural event, and I think you know we debated what sports

Maybe we shouldn't be any Olympics we'd like. comes up often on the show and one criterion. I used was you have ever seen it on a Grecian earn like what would the Greeks have put it on, and I think they would happen skateboarding on the earth would go right and a guy guy and a tune it with this maybe you to hang loose. Ok, listen, it's think about it. We, if we talking classics, which is the ancient Greek here, that you think about the jumpy low jump, triple jump things, use newtons lawyer action Ray. I hear this. This then has to reconnect to that classic action reaction with skateboarding site does have some. residents back to where I think the Greeks would have been more with it. I think the archives at it I do we gotta bring this to a close. I build Robert and thank you for that.

Their skateboard, what an moniker that, as is this on your business cards, yet will I do have business cards, but you know I've been doing it ever since I got my appeal. Stay and you know really. My mission has been to combine education with dire skateboarding tat to reach out to marginalize students, but also to give you know a pathways to success for students and education to the things they like to do so, That's really what doktor skateboards olive! Actually you got a TED talk any other place. We can find your online get. You can go to doktor, skateboard dot com got all know who we're ok, I'm on that occasion, any better than that and would have found it very excellent delighted to showcase your work here, and so they should be announced our target. Thank you all for how to me. You know Niels a pleasure, Very thank you so much. You know it's really my honour to be to be associated with star talk and thank you for all the good work we are doing. All right

all right. So this have been another sort of Olympic explain her the inaugural appearance of skateboarding in the Tokyo Olympics. The photographs taken here. Your personal astrophysicist keep looking Do you think.