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Reporting on Science (Part 1)

2014-05-11 | 🔗
Take an eye-opening journey beyond the headlines into the business of science journalism, with veteran reporter Miles O’Brien, astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson and comic co-host Chuck Nice.

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Skip the commercials support star talk on patriarch to listen to every episode commercial Free welcome to start off your place in the universe where science and pop culture collide. Dartle begin right now welcome to start radio meal, the grass Thyssen, your personal astrophysicist, I also serve as director of New York Cities, Hayden Planetarium right here in New York City at the American Museum of natural history. My co host is the one and only check nice, and thank God for that, her, the one and only you thinking, God did not your parents, snap, my birth in your right right today, we're gonna be talking about my
you, with the science journalist MILES O Brien an ice. My I mean how many sad sight journalists. Can you actually name now why now. In the name of one of our supply miles, o Brien he's had a whole career in this stuff. Use science corresponded foreseen in for sixteen years, and let him be they from the beginning, when seen any and all at old right, really right, right and he's reporting saw Ensign space in Aviation and Environment the issues he was there go to man and right now is no longer CNN and we're ahead does pieces on science further PBS News, our that's great Formerly the Mc Neill AIR, the earlier one of em dynamism, I'm not one of them laughed when I'm so gone unless you have left us completely, don't ovaries left right, left the earth or not at that table retarded both retired
so we I caught up with miles on the road, and I said I can't miss the opportunity to get him on start talk. So I pulled out my phone and we started talking and sound so there's a I just I wiped out you made it. I made it clear medically dirty. I was wondering it was is interested in science and did each study science in school? And how do you become a science rapporteur for a major news? So this is what I was here. About let's find out, I'm a history major and it shows I reported I'm a classic example of a guy who has a natural interest in appreciation for science and without naming any names was taught by some teachers who didn't infuse the enthusiasm for the subjects that should
either it was just because you can read that immediately in the face of a more exact, it's interesting. How, when I came to the such I came to it in such a strange way compared to other people, history major have become porter, I'm in local news for a dozen years, local, where we local, I was in Saint John Missouri. That's a big market one hundred and ninety one out of two hundred and three at the time you should shoot my own stories back in the day when the camera was attached to a big recorder it's about wait about- underpins all myself woman band and Then I found a way to Albany the Earthen Temple Florida, Boston and then, while Austin at market ever bigger than the prayers were more caused cover this poor bodies and therefore, what is fires in May, and so I was getting tired. But I didn't see a logical way out. Necessarily until I heard that CNN was looking for a report of the catch was you were looking for a science correspondent, a science
the history major. Wouldn't you you seen around conniving audacious to respond to an ad for assigned reporter scientific terms with the Basel Convention cobble together, tat. They had a reasonable number of technical stories that was kind of science e science something scared. This is the key The reason I am where I I was never afraid of a subject as important yes in this is a key issue with people, because there is a science phobia which I discovered in a palpable away. When I was trying to get stories on the earth CNN you're that newsroom is populated by science phobic syrup LISA history, English majors- God bless him on one of them who are petrified here. The S word actively run from you and I cannot how many times you go through all the. The process is to get a piece ready, the air and then there's a final play for supervising producer CNN play the tape for them. Tape we had in those days was wanted.
Economic. Miriam had really till the esoteric, isn't Bucky bombs, carbon sixty making the vertices over soccer ball racially areas graph under the cover of silence magazine, you know, is a big deal further. What without we're gonna have superconductivity? By now, I'm bars with Bucky path by these things, didn't but anyway, why are they not forget, though, that site through my job back in, men and play this tape about people in the ocean. I know this is science, but that was interesting. Why? Yes, as if the two were mutually exclusive, so it's interesting. How science is perceived by people, and I think we do it. A good job in our educational system are scaring people away, but how much of this yet was because you are simply a good journals. That's going to soar! That's really a question because really the purest definition of journalists are being.
The important thing is an overriding since curiosity, a desire to understand your son matter, the end, an ability to communicate that to your audience, ass. The job right right so, whether its politics in Lord knows we get a lot of that or science it should be the same discipline when I went down to interview for the job They was the was decided at the time. She was a former molecular biology. She actually do science, came in there. Is this local news guy cobbled together this reasonably technical tape at Boston, I really had no business being there. And she put me through the two day interview which could go out. Stories? Reading for the camera, the stuff you expect, but also written and oral exam about science. I flunked use you just now things about climate change, and this was nineteen ninety too early,
in this- you wouldn't known about it, but I was the history. Major case embodies Random Boston. I don't really know much about. We knew about it from the eighties when we start talking about the effective climate change from asteroid impacts and nuclear winter, and always, of course, Jim Hansen. Al Gore we're talking to Congress that it ladys that I was parentage anyway, cyclical do we get to the end of the line of this today already or the president of CNN Boffin on any result, DAS, guys, you don't even look up from the paper Siemens Desert accuracy. Look up about science paper sooner his those in life, what you do and I threw the hail Mary pass. I said That is why you want to hire- and I thought of it that was deep into the bowels of vacation. The truth is, it is the truth, because the audience of Syrian? It's not scientists, tell us the right to somewhere between the feather eighth grade education and what
need somebody is curious, not afraid of the subject and able to figure out ways to communicate complex things, anymore, simplistic way, although things as turns out, I was pretty good at it Actually, having somebody come in their defending a degree might get the way and We all know. Science is a lot of things to a lot of people when it's very compartmentalize. If I happened to be, and after a physicist, what would I know about, but you boss or whatever I would a keener understanding the scientific process, but I learned the scientific process pretty quickly along the way, and I also had a former black you buy. Just as matter. So it's a great lesson for all of us. I think about science and white scares Essen, how it for just a little curious and embrace it
we might all like yours. You need to start talking to view with french journalist MILES, o Brien that'll continue when we come back. We're back taught Radio Neil Title here: Jeff NICE at right crossed the desk from me, we're here New York City and we're talking journalism. Yeah ever got miles, o so poorly we know one science, journalists and his name is miles a bright. Ever how to get out more. I really do an excerpt. I also knows I in spry day, except I don't know the journal and you don't know the journal, genocide, Frodo, NPR, USA, but I'm gonna rename him ballsy, o Brien Balls,
What is clear is that history nature burst into the man's office your science report and have an policy o Brien. But that's kind of that that that's it there's a gender neutral way to say that what does that say, go natural or broken those that of Gobio go that men and women animals both have done gonads there you go so we we have more. My interview with him. I like that. I caught up with them like on the road and somewhat clip sound like we were in a rain conduit under a highway through absolutely that soldiers but we gotta. I got a month on tape. We that's graffiti in a warm place. I'll get the interview whenever I add and whenever I, and so it is in this next clip I'd, ask them what is what's going on
because it seems, like journalists are now the center of the story. You know they're not talk about something else: everything's gonna go through them and get the European Union there perspectives and I just was tourism. The trend. Let's find out, I think the idea of Europe becoming personalities was probably rooted in a good, yeah, but it's gotten out of control. The good idea is that we all need you gonna. Have somebody take us along for the ride or otherwise you'd, although I do see reason you'd be, may have right the notion of. It was amazing. You hire a guy like me who, as the time, wherewithal profession, to go out and talk to people by complicated things and everything that back in the process of doing you gonna wanna go along for my journey and see how you did that make for more effective storytelling motif to go my personal guy, I kind of like the avatar guide to the world of science. Now you can do in other ways where people like you,
Ass, a scientist could carry the entire strikes or the old BBC saw right, no narration, just let the scientist others Roy, there's nothing wrong with that. It's just that this is another way to do what then so is if you get really good at it. You get in the way of the story as the fame and fortune and the attention Get right? Vanity becomes bigger life, since I did the sun exploding in taking the planet's with tiny. That's about the point is, I think it's difficult to stop this train once it gets going down the tracks a pretty far down the track right now the thing about working for PBS is no one cares. Who does not want your famous? Does we got destroys Don't you want to the natives here myself to the extent that it makes sense, had no more no less and it doesn't get out of control? What happens is it becomes a real money, gay men, frankly it Lee the bigger contracts for journalists, listen, so
it's obvious- that they will do this, but I think there's a little bit of a conflict of interests there in telling the story, I guess I don't mind people being personalities, but what has happened is the journalists have now become opinion leaders and so the line that I thought used to be their between here. Someone do, I trust you. Any news and hear someone who I just heard the news but now they telling me how to think I don't know. What they want is starting now it's gone, but I think what has happened. Part of the problem here is that in world, where information has become a commodity. What is it what to do to provide the value added right. How today, in this cacophony, World waiter has hey, listen to me over here and it's a natural up my experience. My experience, covering news for in years and space for twenty two have enough that the knowledge to accede
able to analyze it in a way that is not just a fax man. I can go beyond your Friday now. Does that mean that I turned my work into just opinions: greed after opinions, greed Nor does it mean that I, in the context of what I do on the web through the various media that I'm involved in their places for me to kind of accept dots any, would necessarily the classic AP styles right. Yes, given a licence to give their opinion. It's very easy to just keep doing that happen. With blue dots, use politics, to do that in a really big way. I used to work for news, and then I noticed a growing fraction of his delivery of content which well. He thought about the world. It was like the ludicrous rather than trying to get more news. What is it
history to support you know, we call this the Fox suffocation NEWS because Fox of course made a huge business out of providing news from a very distinct perspective. On a point of view right, there used to be a thing called the fair stop transcend all that's gone for the broadcasters. Cables never been as he seek unrolled anyway. So would you ve seen as this kind of polar icing component to the mainstream media on cable Lou saw that got right down there and she helped lead that charge and the Something is that plain old, vanilla, Deuce Gas, the TED Turner always said the dews will always be the star. Here I was his quote. Nineteen eighty nine sentence was was uttered its equation. Humble title, four o clock. He got off his horse in Atlanta and it was lit by kerosene, the news be the star? What a notion somebody should rest The Syrians philosophy should be that still today, but for what
reason they decided. They have to answer this fox vacation factor, but the Catholic forgot her dukes. They want to be the world's most respected important network which they are globally and yet they wanna put in this action against where the Roma. So I think frankly, if they just got back to that notion, you could cut your salary on your talent. You know touches washed up local anchors to do it back. Ninety eight because, as I could afford, in order to give the news well these days, could you make a bit he's doing that with all the other observers. Not I don't know, I'm not sure the subject, is your fame, get and wave your story telling of accurate, can't yeah yeah? time, and by get in the way I mean not at all, because I dont have any thing spent kind of hard for it to get in the way of
it doesn't exist doesn't exist. Let me ask you something, because I'm partly on the journalist side of the line in the sand, because I get called by journalists to talk about the universe. If you're watching the news, what do you want to hear? Did you want to see a thing? this person, and then have them talk about now news objectively- I don't want to famous person and he's right in a mouse My brain is right. I love when he says. Basically what we say is you gotta get the money out of journalism. You hear that Matt Lauer, but we're coming for you now from other your page Wickham for you pay. It's like like citizens, United, get the money out of politics. We gotta get the money journalism, because it really has become about personalities, it's a call to pursue. But it's not the journalist for all people tune in they were they want to see action where they want to see Rachel re well, she's, cooks, but yeah still personality apparently matters. While you know I blame Walter Cronkite for this.
The point is repeated loon into these, the guy that did it he's the guy that was, people were like. I gotta get home and watch water Cronkite. Because I really trust that guide and whatever he tells me it's his it. His fault, God rest his soul. I have to agree with you. It was his way of telling the news that people trust it right and we can think of it as banality type of rats what it was really when it was yet and for him to be on the news nightly and coming into your home and saying you know your living room in your living room and that's the way it was or is or will be. Children might have been a lot. So that's true journal right right out and that's the way it might have got eyes too. I'm totally objective for most of my world, the universe, it's hard to put a strong opinion on it and if I tell you
Two galaxies are gonna collide or the son just worked up some plasma Rhine that gets reported. It's not susceptible to politicizing. I don't know you don't want a lot of Fox NEWS that EU aid you be super, I mean all of science- is re. Astrophysics I think, is the least politicized people like when you think about z, biology, there's health there's Joe. Do you not think of all the other scientists and the way people try to put a spin on the sea? Now here's the deal once again, you're thinking like us scientists, because when you think about the absolute you know what you think is just a truth: ok, for instance, the age of the universe,
because of measurable light, yes, a billion years or fourteen billion years, all their people, whose they now that's? No that's got to be a big well so, but it's that it's like, I say, we're getting about scientists, true, whether or not you believe in it move. We just move on a register that that's that's a good point. That's all! That's all I'm trying to say here, but the idea that we have personally, I think it's unavoidable, because like personalities there. It is, you can complain about it, but it's not gonna change and also information has to do with whether or not you receive it has to do with from whom it's come. The storyteller story, ten, not everyone, is an equal, storyteller, absolutely vital and the journalistic version for storytellers. Do I just like well what you wear, what you sound like your hair, you're right, you bid your great journalist, hair, crazy. We take a break we'll be back with stars.
Some of you with miles journalist. I have a secret for you I'm gonna consider singing all of the ads on this shell there's just one and where to get out of hearing there go to patriarch arms last star, talk and support. Where does at the five dollar level or higher to listen the star talk ad free, You can download all current episodes into your favorite podcast player and never we're here another commercial on star talk ever again. You will definitely not have to hear me saying if you support us at Patria, dark coms. Last our talk, radio, I mean I'm just thinking I mean just saying:
This is our talk, radio, continuing I'm near the grass station performance of visitors, Chuck nice, personal comedian. That's right! I'm trying to be sound so caught him on out of sight of me something I want your twitter moniker, but check might come at chap. Nice comic comic! Okay, I follow you. I value to locate, will thank you, of course, mutual. Following society right, we ve been listening to my interview with miles of O Brien fascinating stuff. The science What started out its CNN and and freelance forbid, and now he's a regular correspondent for the He bs news, our as honest. Its journalism- and I just wanted to get to the bottom, because I've been interviewed Gillian Times and not all sides. Journalist are created equal and I wanted to ask him what did he think made a good interview or bad and if you let nets
How many times have you sat and listened to an interview on tv words obvious? The person doing questioning is not listening. When this happens a lot in life? Tb, it's right, but you just going through the motions. Yeah is very difficult to say aimed at noon. This morning, I will talk about this. New plantings got right and we got maybe four minutes and when you get on the air somebody's gone long before you, the politician, and they can, you hear me say www to it today and then you know you're going to talk to you, the hot? I haven't you talk to me. You say something theirs, my ear, and I can't it's obvious what happens that becomes. Horrible interview, and a lot of that is not the fault of the the moral of the story is. If you allow the opportunity to actually have a dialogue, is Having now you'll have a great interview, Larry King famously did not do hope. He was proud of that fact. Now I think that's a little extreme There is a little colonel of wisdom
so you see that's easy families in the family, but heap famously did not duly homework. He wanted to be as if he was a view which led to some very very sick moments on television frankly, where he just ass, a really in name stupid questions. However, by and large, I think, there's something to that it want to forget who's. Coming along with you on this and to the extent that you, trying to impress people by being smart, knowing stuff you're, not doing a good job as an interviewer you're, just trying to show off You just asking questions that seem logical to as reported person and by extension, the viewers and your listening to your subject. You can have greater so that must be the times. When I find myself sometimes having to toe the interview were one and being energy because they don't really but they're asking so I have just wanna help them along and that's a big effort
I have to put in it have to do that. It takes two to tango. Sometimes you just don't click, because when they do click, then we can go, place, it's a short amount of time, its extraordinary backup, I noticed a famish all, but it is like some other things in life. You ve got the chemistry or downright yeah, I'm fatigued. When I have to tow journalists interview a man, it's like we could. We could make together right now, I'm Tellin, you write your legs large. What you're big journalistic nor I gotta carry your around now because you don't know what do you want to feel that? What you must feel that if you do in a room, if you work in a comedy, do in a room and the room is not with you, you gotta told them right. That's that's a burden yeah, but you know you can't look at that
can't look at it. That way is a comedian, because it's my job to make them Labrador. I can't look at them and say like what you guys get this. It's your fault, you now I dont you suck you do as the complete. Would an overwhelming right, remember my axe, and you know why not have no sense of you right now that it's funny without what he said about. I think the thing I learned, the most in their clear was tat. Larry king is lazy workers. I did. I never did lurking while he was on she's, never interviewed by night, while he was on CNN heat. He hasn't, he has a web shown outright, and so I did his wet show. Ok so my first time ever with Eric kings, their suspect, suspenders in Cleveland. Your eye
look around me out the grass besides we're sitting here, having some jib son together what some questions so so what was interesting was he never actually followed up on any answer that I if he just kept. It was like a machine and motion right, so it was super. Actually might have seemed like conversation, but it was, but it really was it wasn't. He was just got again through these questions. Get democracy. What every answers de madam moving! You know, and that means he gets through an interview- You know you got acquainted him that right he's not gonna, leave anything out from his agenda items, but that's not a conversation. It was not a car, it was Conversely, it is also not an opportunity for people to learn even more and special, with someone like you because you're no place, they have not serious, you do and I'm not gonna, let somebody sure, but just a little bit right now. The fact is that you're, not just smart about astrophysics, you are, and you are intellectually curious period so like there.
So many things that you could talk about. That's what had that's you know. That's. Why do the shell? What good flesh is rather, like you think, for further? Yes, it fleshed out all that the surrounding terrain, exactly of conversation. I who I agree so so, but it's interesting that he is definitely aware that cause he's on the journalists that equation I crises at any knows it when it happening right. You know so so Jim when I go in I'm ready for the journalist to not come back at me and I tried I partially info, Patients saluted lives on its own gotcha, but if then, then engage me we go now. It also says that you do do and quality as I do. I could tell this is stupid, audio take this would not about let it go someplace else where we come back more talk with you.
Start operating, we're back. Your patient here which organise Jack just came up that clip about what's a good interviewer, bad journalistic interview, I you know, I don't expect anything from the journalist. I try to come with my information parcel and a check to see. If does it click, or does it not right- and I put on I need testers to see. Are they pay attention are, and are they not o absolute? We do then comedy till you do you have to calibrate Roddy, calibrate how I love. You have very scientifically literate. You gotta float little trial, balloon, you gotta, make you tell a joke and then they don't get you like. Oh ok, see what it is, we're gonna dig joke city tote rather get gaping smart for you not,
The calibre of intelligence level of your body so miles O Brien is a lotta history. There. He started it CNN and then seen in closed their science division, and I said, look I can't interview miles without hearing some backstory on that. So, let's see what he has to say, in nice, eighty when seen and was new and fancies commercial they could get on. The air was the chief pat and then for the flu guy. Eighteen t back when I was really model approached at her and said TAT how'd, you like it. If we sponsored you're fledgling cable news them for science stories and TED said science. What do science now, admittedly Tad turner, probably would have done so its eventually we ve got round, but gaiety anti foresee a ship they came in and they three spots a week: you're playlist
right after the spot, will errand eighty anti commercial and then will compile those. Pieces along with a few other things we can show how science technology and we're gonna give. You have made brilliant idea. All the sun. There is a science, you ll see in a brand new network, cable news, twenty four hours and they had a science. You know run by a molecular biologists, bellied irish and after the races they went. For years and years and years the world could be coming to an end. At those spots would air the hierarchy of ETA? The pieces were linked to the advertising. We had a direct linkage between our science coverage and move on. Another crashed through flock from Norway possible. Did you lose money money? There were other there. He had a travel show that was similarly linked. Commercials and overtime CNN decide they didn't like that they didn't have to do it. I got to be the bigger, and so why should we force ourselves producers
It is because, in the middle there show they have to put the Bucky Ball Peace and, with the eighty induced by right after it anymore, their show if something's going on and makes it difficult for us to producer shops. So let's get rid of the linkage, and once I got rid of that linkage, it was just a matter of time now deluded myself into thinking. We were so good and that they cared We should not therefore, while, but then I noticed we were getting on here, who would pitch ideas? Produce stories they wouldn't get on the air, and then we get queries from you chose to do you know how does that Water schemes, rule water ski anyway. Sometimes there the vote the beginning of the year, so the first shuttle wants that. We're, not covering four CNN, because you got things left right, I'm watching CNN income, the replaced since that time, the replacement and this particular wants landed at night. But there was like the night scope on it, and so they
Thank you there's a glow. We area of Digital, you haven't, got a special camera. It makes the hot spots glove, and so I tweeted as it could someone please report were infrared, so he was describing what he saw but with no understanding behind it, and so, therefore the viewer is not taken to a new place. They don't see for themselves and worship. No one in the decision would have called him up and said you dummy that was infrared because they either are not listening or are equally uninformed so check. If you dont have dedicated staff that they don't have the vocabulary, they don't have. The insight it'll have the lexicon to carry a story so they're just people on the street at that point right, not train journalists, exactly People who work in these guys are going up into the sky in their sky cherry. Yet my God look exerts Madge.
This other hot flames coming up the bags that was apparently in the ship had mexican slot blames covered as currently what a terrible it's terrible. Now it's you know, it makes sense, you're, absolutely what he just hit on and what you just said, one of the things that, beyond that, In addition to that, being annoy the fact that these guys are kind of proud and thickets killed they don't know some about science. You know what I'm saying I M right right. I never did well in science, ha ha ha ha. The interesting thing is theirs. Of mysteries in science. We ve learned with a bit of science. Then you could talk about those mysteries, not the mister. Why you don't know the word infrared at all rags and there's not a mystery behind that it's got public school. This is
our talk. Radio will be back in a moment. Start radioed yielded restoration here, your personal astrophysicist and I'm in studios check my s. Jackknife comic, that's right at nice, come at that We have no you're at here right now. I am here on my mother, which has had a stroke routes. Where, were you be where you yeah IBM, must hope that I can almost field lack of a belt across my. How dare you check bring the ghetto into start? Talking ready, we ve been featuring my interview this whole shows been on science journalism in
who's, the leading sideshow? It's got to be mellow Brian. I mean, who else would we be talking about well, and I caught up with him, I think, was in Washington DC. I did this interview sometime ago and it was the best I could do. I have to be pulled out of microphone and but that you know what you want to happen tomorrow, since then, now he got into an accident and he damage its form if his arm and they had to amputate. Missing half his arm. Oh my goodness. No itchy had really good spirit about because the option was too not amputate and then die. So if that's your choices, I have it you're you're good the missing exactly half an hour and one arm die right. We're gonna be got that, but he's got he's back in business and an active twitter feed and he still doing pieces for the PBS News, our so that he's a real trooper good for half an hour. When I asked him in the interview what kind of stories I like knowing people's favorites right. So as what is what's the favourite stuffy like
to do as well as a journalist, because you know there can be some boring stories s this ever everybody's got to do the boring ones, but why I just want to find out what makes him take. What met the most amusing journalist covering the loss of Colombia to be on the air, for sixteen solid hours live no net and drawing upon my knowledge and where consequently a special programme, alas family first two thousand and three at the time. I was a couple of weeks way. We had been having private meetings to talk about what NASA agreed to do, which was to fly me on the shuttle to the station. That was all ready to go once called. But let me remind you that I was going to ask about the Houston, the whole thing Linda I been working for years and that Saturday morning we lost Colombia, Friends of mine ass, this our family right and so has a journalist talk about a mixed
of emotions to deal with, and I went on the air for sixteen hours and frankly help our nation get through a terrible tragedy, and so I am extremely proud of being a part of that. But to say that your famous Roy sounds really strange, because there is a horrible fits all the book ended at is to cover whence returned the flight with water Cronkite. As my colleague who else in the world can say watcher. Cronkite was their collapse. He ended up having a nice relationship that lasted up until his death and that's the way it was he was a great man, and it was a wonderful experience so that its heart beat those two eyes at some future story with you. You want to cover. You know. If I had the opportunity, I gladly take a one way, tripped Mars had set up at european level. Mars beer or that didn't read that sounds great. Could denials of Brian reporting live from the valley?
look and see that before long I thought about this report. He loves, you think the lag is bad. When the Baghdad. Now twenty minute attempts lines on jokes, don't guess there's nobody mouth, I dont get back and forty billion twenty there by yeah yeah. I can't have yes Montana live reporting right, yuck Mars, you know added sort. It out. Just twenty minutes away like travel time. I travelled right so I may say hey miles how you doing twenty minutes later sees it is, and he can answer instantly right. I'm fine! Twenty minutes later back right! That's great! Here's! The thing, though, that would kill that conversation. I'm sorry could you say that again you ve done. Wasted in our hopes that it will be some serious, nipping and talking of those interview to put him to put him on air. But it's interesting how tragedy and
consider that CNN its greatest ratings over all the years were during tragedies when during the Gulf WAR too, you know when with major disasters, people tuning CNN and so there it is. I mean it's. Maybe it's it's something deep within us all. I don't know we we we definitely gravitate towards them urban and and tragedy has ever consumer to to do. Yes, it does as a matter of fact, which is our because people want to laugh, but now you gonna make him said, and they laugh about being said and what there is a very specific dark humour that many people, you know, subscribed to really there. There is love when you, you know when you have jokes, you like there's a public debt, Grandmama, jokes: ok, put it at Grandma Jack, there's a whole genre of digits caught dead, Grandmama jail, just a grandma genre. Yes, and people
I still we ask that the matter. Would you guys and just meant death so actually no night, I think about it when I told cosmic stories the ones that all people eyes opened, the most aren't like when that speed, the human species goes extinct from asteroids outcome. Would if you, if you get stretched and spaghetti fide falling into a black hole, Seattle people totally dig that while they suffer there are signs that the army or gets us night you comedians messed up. We are messed up as humans. Absolutely I wish I had at one of the most fascinated things to me as when you think about two galaxies colliding a train wreck, there is the most awesome thing to observe ever absolutely, and why would that appeal to your case? We conclude this star talk that human beings are just messed up go in the head. Banks were to have a nice, you listening to start radio, nearly rats needs and check. Nice. Thanks has always been my co host. That was all about journalism. It'll continue
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