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tricks for a limited time or offering vocs media podcast network fans. One hundred fifty dollars off our standard tick go to the virtual com, such on the virtual tickets and enterprise, code dollar sign nine, nine. Now a czech I'd love to see you from CAFE and w unwisely studios welcome to stay tuned. I'm prepared there must have been assistance, developed people, Cooper producers who were aware that he had a way of tricking these women to be alone with him in his room and so the problem with our industry, as those people are worried that they'll never work again affair. The persons that calls a prosecutor and says he's hurt thing? Always people? That's my guest on the show. Today, writer, director and producer epitaph, you know a lot of his and tv shows, they include forty year old virgins, locked up, freaks and geeks bridesmaids girls and most recently the big sick, which I thought was terrific, his new stand up special the return debut

next month on networks, and I actually had the privilege of being in the audience. When was filmed in Montreal over the summer, we had made plans for me to interview John on the pot cast some time ago, but the interview actually took place in the midst of all this news about sexual assault, sexual harassment and other kinds of misconduct erupting out of Hollywood. It's the complicated issue. The news continues to unfold. The scope is not fully known and there are lots of voices that need to be heard on the issue, particularly women's voices, but since I was seeing jug and allay anyway- and he has a powerful voice as a successful producer and director, I wanted to hear his thoughts and I hope. This is the first of a number of conversations will have about this important issue on the show, but before we get a jug best answer some questions, this question came from twitter from the handle at Fini lives for him, and the question is: is it just my arrogance or is the agee just about the worst poker player you would ever sit down?

table with three question marks. So I assume that's a question about the attorney General United States Jeff sessions, and I presume it came in the wake of his testimony this week at how oversight committee, the forcing I'll say, as I hope they bugger never have. So I can't speak to that. But the important thing I think is not whether not just sessions has a poker face or not. The importing is whether not just sessions has been completely truthful. When he's been testifying in Congress on more than one occasion, including his confirmation hearing and is Jeff sessions properly. Administering the Justice Department standing up for the independence of the Justice Department, now I'll say right off the bat that one thing that is difficult for me to watch and always has been no offense to any particular member of Congress, but the memory that it asking questions and time and time again I get the question you did. Jeff sessions, perjure himself and people want to know, did someone in a line? Can they be processed

for it? I don't see a legal case to be brought in part, because when members of the house asked questions or even the Senate, they don't ask them well and they don't pin someone down so I've seen exchanges where a member of Congress asks a question. That's meant a pin down just sessions or or any other person is testifying and the witness in this case just sessions, answers are completely different question and the failure to answer a question doesn't mean you lied and it may be a small point but there is a reason why, in a court of law, when you watch tv or in real life, the lawyers and judges say we need to hear your answer to the question: is it a yes or a no, and sometimes it can be too yes, but members of Congress only have five minutes. It's somebody who's trying to make a point and maybe make a point for the cameras and it's another person, the witness who's, trying to make sure that they see message, not necessarily get a lot of truth out of that, and not necessarily get alot of clarity. Out of that

it is very, very rare that any kind of criminal case of perjury comes out of that. Does next question is from twitter from at fifty pound head? That's that's! A very He had and reads to your knowledge. Is there any president for a party gnp going after a political opponent? Clinton who is no longer even in office to investigate things. Uranium, one that happened years ago. It's like that. The Democrats when after Mitt Romney, so I have not school myself on all history since the beginning of the republic. I think it is its highly unusual and it's something that you more often see in Greece, there not fully formed democracies, in fact that you know in the immediate aftermath of Nixon resigning, although he wasn't a political opponent of Jerry Ford, he wanted the country to move on and Ford Pardon Nixon, which most people credit with being the reason why Ford end up losing the presidency did Jimmy Carter

More relevantly have to be near the Obama administration, and there were a lot of people who wanted the Obama Justice Department to go forward and prosecute some of the people who were responsible for the harsh interrogation methods in the war on terror, and my recollection is that Obama and other folks that they proceeded in some ways, but they also felt it important for the country to move on. But this idea that I think, generally speaking, of people going after their opponents, particularly when he's directed out of the mouth of the sitting, president of the United States, is not healthy. That's not good for unity. It's not good for the rule of law is not good for independence. It is, that if there is a solid basis for pursuing criminal investigation against somebody nobody's above the law, on the issue of the appointment of a special council to invest, uranium. One thing what I took from just session assess Mony House Judiciary Committee this week was that it's not likely to happen

and if you saw the testimony, he got little testy when being asked even by members of his own party, why he wasn't directing the appointment of a special council that, to me the like the letter that were sent, but I dont know what that's him like to me, was just sessions and the Justice Department. Hence in the letter to Congress, saying that they would take a look like people, not just as a problem will often say to appease Congress, will take a look. but dont get your hopes up. It also may be simultaneously possible that part of the audience for that letter suggesting a hard look at putting a special council by the Justice Department was dull Trump, who has time and time again so that that's what he would like. So I think we should wait to see how this place out. I would not be surprised at all if the request was declined. But you never know area is not a question from twitter from someone with a handle at used to be GNP interesting and the tree

type report no, by the way, these are longer an accurate one hundred eighty characters much or how I feel about that. I prepare our love your pod. Thank you. What you're take on the trump administrations nominees and the stories of their lacks qualifications and hyper partisan leanings, otherwise, to counter overturn lifetime appointments. How do we pushed back on this? So couplers monsters no way to counter overturn lifetime appointments. That's an important structural feature of our constitution and helps us in it protects us, and it keeps a visionary independent in fact, given what it sounds like you current leanings. Are you dont want there to be a way to counteract lifetime appointments because their people, who have been on the bench for a long time who don't wanna, be intimidated by whoever the president is in its on the trump has been trying to do in connection with a travel ban and some other things. It is like I think that would be a dangerous road to go down now. On the question of what to make of the qualifications of some of these trap nominees.

in fairness, I will say there have been in a less than stellar, qualified nominees in every administration- is true- the Obama administration. It was true in the clinic ministration and the Bush administration in between. But I've never seen before, and the small period of time. This number of nominees being declared unanimously unqualified by the American BAR Association and that you know, association people have criticised before. But it's a group of professionals who take a deep dive into judges credentials their experience with their colleagues, think of them and their temperament. And it's a lot in just a few months here, and that's not a good thing, because you, Sir for life- and you can do you- know a lot of injustice if you don't belong on the bench. As for the question of whether these nominees or more partisan their persons on both and it would be ideal if people were shut down. The middle, when their being homage to the bench, but if something happens both times, I think it's a little too early to see whether trumps nominees.

more to the right and bushes nominees. I'm not sure that that so I think the respect the Supreme Court nomination, of course, such that somebody that Mitt Romney might have appointed that somebody that George Bush might have appeared So I do know that their any more to the right, then a different republican present would have appointed and asked your last question. How do we push back on this while the way pushed back on this is to let the person that you would prefer to have in the White House so vote anathema conversation with a kiss the writer director producer jet appetites jug, and I had a really interesting conversation. It was funny, but was also serious, the serious part related to the news Hollywood about sexual assault, misconduct and even possibly rape, We talked about Harvey Wednesday comedian Louis UK, who God knows personally talk a little bit about Woody Allen and also the role of people who have enabled. Our kind of conduct throughout Hollywood some of those people have been lawyers from non professional. Where's, your human accommodation starts,

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sir, I went on to become a federal prosecutor. You went on to change the face of comedy. What went wrong for me and right for you? Well, I don't know seems like that. It's that's reversed and allow tat would have added to the world. I find it interesting as I when I was a kid I wanted to be in committee from the time I was about ten. I just thought maybe similar to you. The world is really screwed and comedy seem like a way to address it like nothing, seems fair. As I love the marks brothers could, I felt like they were basically saying. None of this makes sense like a movie like duck soup, which was just making fun of government and worn. I do I just like people were flip in the book, the bird to powers of in a way you did that acquire your own power and in fighting for people to be held. Annabelle, so maybe we're doing the same thing in different ways. Why did you until eight ten, exactly why so lately he has actually I needed to get the right amount of beatings, wheel,

get any beatings. I always think that Donald Shrubs Tad beat the living. It's one of my private theories, which is he just bring behaves like somebody who is physically abused whenever I hear that story that they sent him to boarding school because he was unmanageable and none of his siblings whence a boarding school I within what kind of bandit meant is that as a kid and does that make you feel like? I must have come wish. I must be a winner food dad who sent me those boarding school and beat the hell out of me, but just my guess, I'm I I'm not sure of that the budget go like what mentally happened, Donald Trump, that he is this guy. I know no idea but

but along the lines of what your career is about. The one thing that I find out about Donald Trump, that didn't appreciate until literally the day before I went to go meet him last November. When he was can ask me stay on. Is this on characteristic that he has of not laughing he smiles at jokes? He makes jokes himself with you find them funny or not, but but there are almost no cases of him on tape laughing. We think that's about. Do you think the vessel mental illness? I think what a serial killer does, because you know when you laugh your showing you understand someone you showing you care about them, that love them you're, making a real human connection. I think that something we all talk about, that Donald Trump doesn't seem to be making human connections and that's why it's easy from to fight with the widows and the parents of people. You know who's whose kids gave their lives for this country. There is just a lack of empathy that we dont quite understand what is at the root of it, and we don't know where it leads us,

certainly leads in certain respects too terrible things like not having compassion for the Dreamer kids in our country, just just being comfortable with the suffering of other people, and to me at all was back to being a guy that owned a casino, because what what does a casino do? It tries to take your last penny because we all the side in life where we want to spend our time what we want to work on, how we want to make a contribution to to the world to the all casino Unreasoning Stephen is a terrible, but all absolutely these are the words we go down the list. We should go yeah, Sheldon ABLE sent. I mean, I think, that the eye, dear that your vocation is to figure out how to get people to their money with you, I think, as a horrifying way to make a living only go back to this point of down trap, not laughing he's out humorless Knows how to make other people laugh, maybe not you, but he knows enough about people to get them to laugh from

time. Well, if you really made a list of the Donald Trump jokes, they're, usually attacks on people, A lot of humor is about making people. People feel terrible, France's ebonite. I guess he considered it a joke, I'm not sure, but when he said about The head of North Korea. Are you I didn't call him fat in short, nobody's had he column kinda. apparently call them an old and Donald Trump responded by saying I didn't call you short and fat, although I could end, I think, had some level, he thinks. That's it. I think we're literally watching a mating dance between two of the most awful people the earth has ever seen, and this is part of their for their like flirting. It's like it's a lunatic.

flirting who is using humor? Well, if we think the trumpets not. I think that our frank in is one of the funniest people love, that's ever meant and government, and he is very careful but using its sense of humor, but when he does, I think that is very effective in his book has very good. I think that a Brok O bomber was stare, I think to the point that he had to hold back how funny he was. I remember seeing him in a town hall when he was first. The running for president was on C span and woman asked a question and he said to me so cutting and so funny that I thought Oh, this is too funny borderline mean that this guy is viciously funny and he has the sensor this, but he's actually hysterical. I mean I wrote some jokes for him for correspondence.

Dinners, and I was always amazed that he would do what view it would be almost a fifteen minute, twenty minute routine. He wouldn't stumble on one joke he wouldn't flood align pretty practiced enough. He practiced, I dont know, is a really good question in his timing was so impeccable, and he really got the spirit of every joke and asthma does Stana and who has a Netflix measures Forgot December I was there that was very good. I was always another amazing. He just doesn't he never slips on this, and then I seen him speak. You know, just in advance is talking to people, take questions and he he he is used to see. You were very effectively Michelle. Should you write? Can you tell it I'd. I'd want to be a joke. Late claimer lead people like alive. that one, you know wanna be that person, but one of the jobs that we wrote was people say

on reach out across the island ef. I don't hang out with these people. They say what do you have led? Should Mitch we're gonna have a drink. I rather think that your guy, I know your job better than you. You say it. I use this I've who's this Why do you have a drink with which Macfarlane I say? Well, you haven't rhythm, reckless it's a simple is job. You have a drink that Milano Treatment Management. I was, I was once so. I work in the Senate and I found Miss becoming where's shrewdness very smart, need, depending on your perspective, you, like his policies, are not not a funny man that if any man a terrifying that is the purpose of comedy just to make people or reserve in over a higher order of it. That means it should not. May people app and make them think make them feel alive, make them We consider their positions, the idiocy? The world order? you. Cerebral wedding is all that. I think there is a place for that. I remember

John Stewart during the re election campaign and George Bush in thinking, there's no way. George Bush can win based on how hysterical and well thought out all these pieces are that his shows creating and when George Bush one I thought. Oh none of this works. None of this works because it did. This would have had an impact, and I wish it did work, but I dont know if it works in the way we would like it to Do you think? Maybe training. The next generation will be more tolerance and more thoughtful and and hopefully stand up for certain ideals, at least do you know, doesn't have to be the way for his question was about what are you persuading people, your point of view or not, and maybe the more important thing is it's more like school school is not there to die, you into being left or right if they are to teach you, hopefully how to think for years

to be critical of institutions and be skeptical of politicians and that sort of what you have done and John Stewart does You don't just stood when he left his show. He said you know- and I am I paraphrase at exactly said- that pay attention, and these are bullshit out there, and he had a great monologue about being aware of. The bullshit today is being spread every day, and that is part of comedy is to help. You learn how to think about certain things to point out in justice to point out that a ridiculous and other times it's about other things. It's about come it's about, love and connection. Smaller human foibles in everything we do to try to survive this life and try to find a happiness. So different kinds of of comedy. But the political comedy right now is especially charged. I'm amazed that they can do it every day as a comedy writer and I'll turn on South Myers and go these guys, wrote this today

I think about brilliant ten minute run of observations, jokes, so something has happened in the news they have to process it. Then, to figure out their point of view on it. Then they have to find a way to make that point of view entertaining and funny, and they do that between, like ten and five o clock every day they write ten minutes of something remarkable and always people are doing it. and I'm in awe that they can do that. I'm in other John Stewart did it for seventeen year and everyday. Unlike are you in all of the people in certain at times? I am time at times I you know. I think that our life sometimes goes hard at people sometimes go soft people. Sometimes they try to take both sides and Ilsa. We had the Republicans we're gonna hit the Democrats here, and I think that in the past their attempts to keep everybody watching the show prevented them from having a strong point of view.

For me personally, I like, when the show has a point of view. is ahead. Writer has like this is what I believe and my comedy follows this. I want to turn to an enormous, a serious topic, but you been particularly spoken about it in tone: ass, a couple of questions about the allegations against Harvey Wine steam, against Lucy K and by the time the stairs, maybe it'll be a bunch of new ones have short, which is disheartening and unfortunately, that's happening. Why is it so prevalent in Hollywood.

It's hard for me to know what it's like and other businesses from what I hear. There are similar problems at every business, but there are specific aspects to how the entertainment world is run. That sets up to be a problem. One is its. You know it's a business. That is a lot about like a point of entry, and so there is the potential for abuse to say you can enter this world. You can get this job. If you do this and is not about you know, you don't ticket taxes on a quantitative exam you take and so people have an outsize power to make you successful or not exactly, and that that becomes a problem, and I guess it probably is the same in every other business. Someone decides. If you get the job, some undecided, you get the promotion,

There are certain people a lot of power and if the abuse that power you get these these issues of harassment, but there's something about out of meal handsome young men and beautiful young women trying to get noticed, trying to get people to realise their towns it to give them opportunities. You care, prove you're a great actress without getting the job. You have to get the work to show what you do and that creates a lot of power and potential for abuse from the people who give out those jobs. So you have that happening and then I think there's something about people's self interest that keeps them

from stopping it. I think people don't want to make waves, people, people, don't wanna, get on the phone and call someone and go what's going on with Harvey Wine seen what what is it like, the other day out baldness, giving us each somewhere, he preempted some stuff, and he said the I heard for decades this rumour that Harvey wine seen raped, rose Mc Gowan and I just thought did ever ask anybody about it today, your agents ever ask. I don't know he made movies with Harvey after the point he heard that rumour, maybe they may be, didn't. Did you ever think it was worth saying? Is that true? And if it's true shouldn't, we come up with a way to keep actors and actresses safe from him, and I think it's is unfair to point them out. As the only example he he just that one person had set it out loud.

Let's assume there was a hundred people who heard that rumour did anyone call anyone to say shouldn't we protect these women from Harvey. I was talking to an age in the other day and he said to me: you know Harvey had a process, he would go to a film pencil He would say these are the women I want to meet. He would set appointments for the morning at the last minute. He would cancel and move the appointments to the early evening, they would be multiple people there and they would meet this person like at the Russian. Downstairs and they say Harvey I'll, be right down and one by one people would have to leave to get other appointments till there's just one person, and then they would say Harvey would like to meet you upstairs. and then they were left alone. Now who were those people involved in this process? There must have been assistance, development people co producers, who were aware that he had a way of tricking these women to be alone with the minutes,

and so the problem with our industry is those people are worried that they'll never work again. If there that the person than calls a prosecutor or the. of an agency or studio and says he's harassing all these people and that's what we have to change. We have to find a way to get the business manager who writes the check, HU, the woman that Harvey wine seen or raped to say. I won't right that check. I'm not going to do that and you think we reached a tipping point where more more people will do that now. I think it is the beginning of a massive change, because women always felt like no one will believe me and I will be supported and we ve just said to them. We will support you were here, we publish support you much more, there still be well, who feel that they didn't get supported enough, that the environment has changed dramatically and that's why you have and ignore

of people saying oh, I can say now well. This is half of them here, and this is what happened to me there, and so suddenly it feels like a tidal wave. It's because all these people have been traumatized and they have been terrified too forward, because their word about losing their careers or being sued labour look at Brett Ratner did he's he's doing this. Woman Radner, whose a director images bridge Jones producer and finance. Here a woman wrote a facebook post, accusing them of right. He soon her. No! It's it's a woman, I think she's in the business anymore. Thank you live in Hawaii or something and he suing her for millions of dollars. She cleared doesn't have the money to defend against this. But what is the reason he's doing this?

The signal to anybody else that might be thinking about going forward, but I'm sure they're married your life, health right he's not showing any the famous people that are accusing him because they have the means to deal with it. Luckily, that woman got a lawyer to say I will defend you pro bono, so she is being defended, but that why people don't come forward because of things like that? Do we have this wrong? Is he also the person that associated with wonder woman? Yes, yes, he's one of them. It is a wonder, woman and Gal Godot said: I'm not going to do this Who played wonder woman in these in that's something that you might not have seen yet some years ago, yeah she's that I'm not going to make the sequel and that's really what it takes to changes. business is people to say I will not work with that person They were rumours about bill cause me for years to two women when, on the today showing and told the

their story, you know more than a decade ago, he still was getting development deals to do new tv shows and specials. You know people did not say we stand with you, they want to ignore it, because these people generate a lot of money and people don't want to be the one to make the call like it's hard if you're the head of a studio to say you know, I'm not gonna make this tv show any more, what was your pedophile well evening, attired, obviously for the head of a studio to say that how hard it for you know for the king, yeah for the lower level manager happened, it's it's a problem. This happened beginning of time, because people dont want to be ostracised.

We should have a system in which its the perpetrator, whose Astrid ostracised not the victim, is ostracised end and maybe that's beginning to happen little bit. I hope so. I hope things change are being eroded, fairer rights. Is these incredible articles about Harvey White seen in everything that he learns Anita? We hear crazy things he's hiding ex massage agent sewer private investigators were pretending to be victims in order to find out where information is really dark, evil, stuff, but yet Ronan Pharaoh, not that long ago wrote an article about his file. Their Woody Allen, molesting his sister and sister wrote an article about it, which was in the New York Times. Everybody ignored it and if you ll notice, no one ever turned down a job in a Woody Allen Movie every single person says yes, nobody says I I believe her, and so we are also willing to say yet we were wrong about rose Mcgowan. I guess she was

About everything, but why does everyone still say I believe Woody Allen. Daughter, look, it's not just from my perspective. There enablers in the legal field too, and there's a lawyer of great claim, and I know all the details and I think he's apologize for for deep David Voice Was representing Harvey once you now? It appears that he was actually investing in some them so have you wanting was making, at the same time retaining our times and cut contracted with investigate of company that was As you say, these former massage agents to intimidate people get information about them. That's kind of gross second exam lovers, behaviour by lawyers, there are cases of people the media business who basically had in their contracts that nothing was going to happen to them if they from time to time, had to settle. Even for millions of dollars. Sexual harassment claims against other folks that that's enabled by lawyers who does I did at the company, you don't ask, don't tell you do these bad things

and we have to know about it, you're so profitable to us a good Newscorp you know Bill O Reilly he's paying a tens of millions of dollars to people that he is sexual here, asked they know he's paying out claims. They claim they didn't know and the last one how much it was four or what he did. That's what they're saying so they? Finally, as a new claim, he they'd he's they. told that he settled it, give him a new gigantic contracts on the path forward These issues are coming on a Hollywood. Should people like she people rise up and refuse to work with Woody Allen and Harvey wine steam for all time going forward. I think that there is a debate is about to happen, which is what do we do with these deviant people? What happens to them? The sum of the maybe criminals was, none of them should be imprisoned, some of them it's always difficult to prosecute these cases even come.

Maybe you don't gotta Hungary with in an insane amount of accusers and a lot of evidence at him on the record, saying that he women waylaid. So this is the very difficult to prosecute So now you can have all these people at different levels. At the high end, you like these rapists and sexual harassers and people blocking doors, whether masturbating and then you have people who just treat people badly Shhh mucks, who are really hurting people's lives and ways they dont quite understand this, all sorts of will. power dynamics at play. People are manipulated to doing things. They don't want to do so. You have every level from the worst to a lighter level, and then we go what you do with this point. And what do you do with Brett Ratner? What do with Harvey wife

Is he barred from show business? What is no law in show business? Are you? But you are you saying that once you so you have you? Have your life Leslie, Mass, so wonderful actor. I think she's, terrific! You have two daughters. Yes, who act? You know what they say, what you say to them on this question. If it ever comes up, if I get offered a job and Woody Allen Movie or a bread Ratner movie you do it? do it either? You don't you dont, know absolute right enshrined. That's it that's come up and you don't do is come up from I mean there's a reason why I haven't worked with any these people. You know this the Euro. If, if you look at the resume, I do my best, I don't always succeed, but I'm avoiding the awful people as much I can't I don't have a tunnel Harvey lines, theme collaboration side, not making movies with bread Ratner, and that is because You know when you hear someone is terrible. You avoid them

but is that your advice to everyone's? They look especially now if we want to put an end to this conduct and take away the believe of powerful men to abuse women and other men in a terrible way or who are up and coming stop working with him. Is that your eyes it lets part of it? I hears a thing. It's very difference when you're talking about one complaints five years ago. is not a lot of information verses, James Tobacco, three hundred accusations- and this is what is going to be so difficult about this- which, How are we gonna handle these situations where it's not ten or twenty accusers is one person its debts, very tricky thing and I don't have an answer for that would be for the general public who not deciding do you know what I'm getting offers to being a Woody Allen Movie or a arguments movie, but Trying to sign- or do I go see a movie yes.

how are we supposed to view the art of people who have done these terrible things? I not one of those people that psych That's burn the negatives and these projects. I just I don't care that much about it. If, if you get a kick out of watching the Cosby show, I don't go it I dont get while it wouldn't trouble you deeply, but I'm not going to support it, but I'm Arabs, so that spending my time going. We gotta get it off the air. I think the people who run it in there people run right now. I think it's creepy. I think that its it sir I think, it's probably wrong, but it's not my ears. If you're gonna go watch any hall, I get it. I get why there, sir. but that are like yeah. I think he is probably four person, but I enjoy the movie and I can separate it and I don't think

for me in America to say you shouldn't watch its. Let's try to prevent you from watching it that that you that's I what our country is about for me personally, these protests get ruins because I see them through the prism of who the person really is the jokes mean different things, the stories mean different things. You you're, you lose respect for the artist as this now the same. I lose respectfully artists, but I also think I in new level, so the artist. So when I watch it max you not even seeing the story in the same way, because it might be an episode. Cause. We show where he's the greatest guy in the world in my head, I'm thinking One of the reasons why he's making the show is so that he can not people unconscious and rate people, and then you won't thing did he ever would do that because he has such a sweet episode of the Cosmos show it might be even more difficult for you. because, as you know, him well Louis UK sure ends his comedy, it turns out.

was about the very things that he's now confess to having done, and that's a different type of situation, because a guy like cause, we were saying I'm perfect and- and it was almost like a pedophile priests, who's trying to say to the world It can't be make us look at all these good things, I'm doing some Louis was exploring the dark side. He were here talking about? so he did that were wrong, that he was ashamed of, and so now we Could that in a different light and go? What is it? What does that mean? What was he trying to say and A lot of it is very on the nose is a lot of. It is very clear. It feels connected to these issues that we're talking about. Do you hear the rumours about Louis Kay? There was always one rumour that I heard, which was that there was this situation in aspen and that's the story that came out what always made a complicated was At least for me, I never knew who the women were unknown.

ever went on the record and said it was me, and I think a lot of things are very difficult to talk about if there's no face to it, but going back now, if you had to do it over again what you have said something to him. Would you have confronted him or would you have tried to enquire more? Would you have asked other people, and what will you learning the lessons of the last few days, and we asked I think that with no right where she lived, what what do you think someone like you should have done? I think that's the the right question and it is it does become about like are we all become investigators. You know, there's all these rumours and where things flying in their some of them that are are very worthy of follow up, and it is these other ones which are kind, strange and you don't really know what they mean and there's no person saying it's me. I got hurt which really require follow up, so they said to question. You're asking me is on a rumour shy of called Lucy Gay. Go. I don't work with

And said, is that true now a lot of people that we know did do that? Then he said it wasn't true, and so until someone said oh yeah, it is true. It's me it's very hard thing. The confronts conversations with your daughter's about show business and through evidence of this in this regard and how, where those conversations I could you can share, I think that's from birth, I've talk to my daughters, a lot about social media, about how show business works, that they are dangerous people out there that are people that can't be trusted. You need to figure out how to keep yourself safe. You need to have to be in tune with who you're with and what they're like that. This can be a scary place at times it rarely, but it's real and we'd. We just talk about all the very openly, because the wondering you dont want to someone.

to assume everything's fine you, don't friends, Gavin Tobakcre, the writer eighties written about Tina Securities security specialist in and he said to me, you know the way women get hurt is by trying to appease men than the most of the times when a woman gets attacked, somehow they ve been tricked by a man instead not being impolite so like an example. Users is here in your apartment. Building and a guy says: hey you. Let me help you with your your shopping bags and the woman doesn't want to say get out here that generally people are trying to be polite and because it trying to be polite, they will let that guy in the apartment to drop off the backs and and they added- and I'm am sure this is true for men as well, that this intention to be polite and not cause a scene gets people in big trouble. So what I would say

my daughter's is, if you feel something weird happening, speak up, get out of their run. Yell, you don't wanna, be the person whose thinking it's probably find unnoticed probably find. I do want to create a scene created get out get out of there. We have a lot in common, as as people my surprising. One of them is also a daughter who treat me with the same amount of respect and admiration that sometimes your daughter seem too, and this is this is a quote. They could have been We are talking about me but you're, the professional comedian unequal, you're saying I'm talking about you I found joke so annoying that sometimes my friends make jokes that are funny and I don't laugh in spite of me. in spite of me. Yes, I did. I did you make your family laugh or not. I sometimes he would sometimes some does not make the effort on like tonight to try to make my family life

Finally, so unfunded, I'm really try to. Let him know I'm good. I would have given the eighth today. I really appreciate other people find you're funny or they will buy it. I did when I go about, they find it annoying for the most part. I think I think they both respected and our irritated by it as they should be we support the support it because you know what they're irritation immediately. I guess, if you live with me here, you know I'm making Fermata jokes by failure is rarely eighty, ninety percent, so you listen to eighty eight bad jokes out of ten. For your whole, I've missed you working it out at home and work it out of my brain and the good sense of the world's not all Netflix a hot trade deficits is the crap together, but all kids think their dad is issued inside I had a dream that I may add? That is, in fact, by factors that that's true, that is true and so You know who wants to hang out with their parents its values, my daughter. wouldn't, I wonder, recalls the other daughters, fifteen. She lives at home and I would say for peoples a family

three as a child observing a weird couple. and the other day like I said why don't you want to get it? Did you write that guy That is why don't you want to have dinner with me mom and she's like no other way, what would ever be fun about what he reaches like? Well, you just gotta give me a hard time about my life or I get Listen to your life, and I don't care at all. This made me feel much because I thought wow, you must be different for judge appetite right I think it's really not money in his home and makes a living off me. That's how they that's how you are paying for college right, because other people find you funny, even if your daughter does exactly that, decide teller. Besides, you know it's pay the bill, so may break here's. My favorite quote from you animal and an you once said. I think that everything I do tends to root underdog, I always feel a kid I was under appreciated, invisible or weird, but I've always secretly people would one day appreciate what is different about me. I'm always put them such out there, eventually the nerves and the geeks will have their day. Ya. Think

the whole time. I was a kid and I was all alone. I just thought all these things are Is it in no one cares about, but I think when you get to the real world, they will care that the rest they well for your family. There still irritated yes, get out. I thank you. So much you even a tremendous sporting guest region, now here we are with you. The show I want to take a minute to talk about some It happened in the news recently that struck me, and this week I saw that Senator John Mccain Republican from Arizona took the floor. The Senate, and one of the things that I like to highlight on the show week after week, is examples of people who don't behave in a knee jerk way according to what their party wants and do things based on principle and on conscience rather than on partisan politics.

John Mccain war hero who was tortured in Vietnam and he was captured, took the floor to oppose the nomination of dialed trumps nominee to be the General Council of the Department of Transportation style nationals. position, but there was a debate about national security because the person we nominated was a man by the name of Stephen Bribery and Stephen Brad vary in the Bush administration. two thousand and five and two thousand and nine was head of an office in the Justice Department, call the office of legal counsel and part of the job of the Office of legal counsel. Some people have said it was to be the conscience. Department, and whilst even bribery headed up that office in the Justice Department, he authored what a lot of people refer to as the so called torture memos, which gave a legal basis. for all sorts of conduct by the CIA and intelligence community to engage in methods of torture, quite frankly against since

The terrorists that I and many other people on both sides of the Isle thought when, against the grain of what our country is, Sir John Mccain not only went to the floor to vote against Stephen bread. But he gave an impassioned speech. I want to just reticence to you. He said from before the Senate quote We have lead by example, and sacrifice blood and treasure. To advance our ideals around the world, to undermine our good reputation in a crucible in which we allowed fears to get the better of our decency. And then he said, Mister Brad Berries work many years ago did a disservice. nation and its defenders, and I cannot in good conscience, vote to give him my trust serve us again. Sir John Mccain was not successful in preventing soon broadband, I'm gonna confirmed, but according to reports, he changed at least

and senators mind he stood his ground and he announced that principle still. Matters guys want to take a minute to acknowledge and appreciate what John MC ended. That's it for this episode of stay tuned, thanks again to my guest, jot avatar, and thank you for listening. I'm excited First live show This I'm an arch on December, Eleventh New York tickets sold out and like a day, I think, can be a lot of fun and special bonus. My mom, and dad The audience, thanks again for all the reviews and apple pie, casts if you haven't written one, yes go ahead and right, one now really appreciated and feel free to be specific about what you like, and what you'd like to hear more of the same year. lessons about news in politics, tweet them to me. If creeper are even better give me a call at six hundred and sixty nine. Two hundred and forty seven seven thousand three hundred and thirty eight six nine too for pre stay tuned is present. by CAFE and W and Y see studios its produced

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