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Come from you thirsty ghosts and government coverage. History is riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now learn the stuff they don't want. You to know already reward hello. Welcome back to the show my name's met, and I am then and this stuff they don't want you to know. Now what Talking about some current events today than we are you about a situation that has the potential to get rather Harry rather quickly. It's these cuts, issues, what we're dealing with your political factions in, and lots of weaponry and militaries and diplomacy to an extent I just by two I go ok. What has been think about this, and I'm not sure I'm not sure of many of our listeners really know about your background, and only you you know I don't want you to reveal

anything you're uncomfortable with revealing. But if you wouldn't mind, can you please tell us listeners if they didn't know already kind of your background and schooling just a little bit, so they can. Better understand, ok, why you can speak to this with authority oh a thirty eight. I don't know. I believe you can't think you met. This really is really kind of you. I study international affairs extensively, both for fun and profit and kidding about last part, and we're always interested. I think both of us are interested in the way that nations are shaped and the world always interested in behind the curtain thing? So as you and I have talked about before, when there's gonna be an international conflict, there there's a the compelling reason behind it. You know that Why we ve said before that people should always

be cautious, when a politician is trying, convince you that a war should be fought on ideological grounds. The cause no there there's some pretty good arguments that every war is ultimately a war about resources, tangible assets not feelings really, because nations don't really have friends, they have common interests, they have their. This investment southern, so we ve been fascinated by. This for a long time, so much so that I'm and have tried to do in North Korea. Episode might never end. So with this new series of we're doing calling it behind the curtain in its our attempt to sort of pierce the veil of what the politicians and a lot of these mainstream media, whether its attempting to be biased, like archie dot com? Unlike

so whether its attempting to be more objective. I'm not going to name and objective example there, because I am sure that everyone as you know, their own lies in search well, yeah, but everyone also as their there go to source that they feel is the most objective. I know I certainly have one ass, though just insert man, I don't know. There is one. I don't have. What are you? What are you working with? I will there For me a lot of times I go for vice just because of their management, and made on the ground really in it style where their old will send one person in a camera and go and talk to people, but also something. Mark RSI now, which I feel it leans pretty hard. The left guy about a lot of times when someone on democracy now talking about a subject I feel like they allow for that person to speak their peace.

Every year we work with us, so many people who are all just why Lee knowledgeable about things that sometimes I think of just standing on my chair and going hey everybody all honest. I gonna ruin for everyone for your keyboard stone, I meant to say the following key words, and I just wanna hear your reactions starting from the left, which is probably effective way to do it by I guess so so. Yes, I do study international affairs, both on a four level and for giggles yes, so let me ask A couple of questions with you met first things: first, we are talking about the currency? with Crimea and Russia and Ukraine and the West means NATO, then I'm sure there, question that quite a few people had they may be didn't ask out loud somewhat embarrassed themselves, even where,

That is why we are here what's going on here, all Crimea, peninsula. That's right on southern Tipp of Ukraine inside the Black Sea synergy, see you don't remember. The name of that see that it's connected to and is also really close to kind of at the edge of Russia are, alongside their its roughly twenty six thousand kilometers it's about the size of Maryland. If I'm gonna have a? U s very, of marine larded is allowed people called the bread, if Russia does is one of the large producers of wheat and corn, so lots of food resources coming out of it I don't know what else. Ah another thing that is crucial to remember here is that the crew in region crimean region is home to a incredibly crucial port for Russia,

in our net sevastopol, I believe, probably pronouncing correctly but yeah. Yeah cause, I'd like your and hunt for Red October, something nice accident so Why is this port so important? Well, it turns out that there is things that you might not know about Crimea. If you just watch the recent reporting, especially in the U S, first class. Here has been part of Ukraine since nineteen fifty four. Yes, officially that was with the M, always that afterwards there were two men. What was the thing that indicted for his Khrushchev here? Ok wave, his yeah, that's, ok, need to look more into this stuff, the things I was reading of ours, mostly the ninety. Ninety two, They won't we'll just by religion. It would start here, ok, so at the time

Ukraine is one of the Soviet Socialist republics, so this gift that crucial does is. Pretty much symbolic, Russia. Station, its black sea fleet in this port, on Crimea, since the late seventeen hundreds and for much of its history, Crimea has been or had been considered. A part Russia Known- let's just take a second mothers, black sea fleet and point out I saw how important this port now's Russia to access mediterranean visa. Very, very, very strictly controlled area in Turkey called the Bosphorus, and there our treaties that allow commercial vehicles free passage in that in that street. Only during times peace, but also considering that so much of Russia is

isolating Europe from the rest of these big trading ports. This way is a huge deal. We saw I don't wanna college. Much of a similar situation, but we saw some parallels with the with the port that right holds in Syria interests during, sometimes or Russia. Always going to try to preserve these ports. Since the the Soviet Union, Crimea has kind of been honoured. The relatively autonomous for for a while, yet a really interesting things that then I learned about this, just as it has its own legislative body, even though it is a part of Ukraine right. It has its own legislative body and a parliament, and even Prime Minister,

really interesting thing about it. To me was that the Prime minister has to be approved by Kiev, whereby the ministries in Kiev, which is interesting to me, but but they still get to function on their own and make laws, and you know legislate right, yeah, within the bounds of that area, and part of that I think, comes from the fact that Croatia has been historically an unstable part of the world is I by the Greeks, by the ottomans on this. If, if current situation with the the Autonomous Republic of Korea. Has led to military conflict. It's gonna be The first time by any means Is there was one famous one that some people might recall for me, streak lie in the Crimea, nor yet I won't let one of my own name everybody's been talking about them,

if you're interested in? If you don't know that is- and you want to learn more about it- just look up the crimean war, yeah We will tell you that it was rush on one side with France, Britain, the Ottoman Empire and Sardinia other side. So it was not the ceiling even my ear, Ok, so we ve said the singing here. We know that the seventeen eighties. Russia's had a presence in Crimea controlling under various forms of government until nineteen. Fifty four and then from nineteen? Fifty four to found the present day. The Crimea has been so my autonomous part of Ukraine. Let's go let's fast, ok, you wanna go to those ten year, lavender. Ok, seventy thousand ten russian negotiated

remain between the Sevastopol Naval Base through twenty forty two, so a nice long, chunky time there, where they can basically they're gonna exchange were forty billion dollars worth of natural gas discounts to allow their usage of this military base. This enabled a little more ass problem, the Raven Gazprom being these state owned russian energy giant. Today's absurd is brought to buy it. For businesses around the world today is an a restart. It's a rethink. That's why they're partnering with IBM retailers are keeping their systems. As millions of orders move on mine hunters are using IBM Watson to manage an influx of customer questions with a sigh and solution built on the IBM cloud are helping doctors care for patients remotely today were rethinking how business moved forward. So, let's get to it. Let's put smart towards

Is it I be under com? Slash smart to learn more working from home conference calls used on me and John with everything we have going on right now. It's never been more important sleep we need, while they sleep is a natural amused and only the sleep number three sixty smart and sensitive movements at automatically just confidence appoint on both sides, drizzly number setting. So all those other things were doing to stay healthy and happy. Well, they work better chip and now, during the lowest price of the season, the queen sleep number three sixty C4 sport, that is only twelve nineteen a port at all, it's only for a limited time to learn more go to sleep. Number. Dotcom! Ok, see! That's that's interesting! This shows how import! This area is Russia. This port, especially, and it also shows how important the trade aspects of this is. So So, let's look at the russian side of the current situation. Russia is saying that essentially, that protecting its interest in this port that these

current ukrainian government not completely legitimate, and essentially cannot be trusted to hold itself to its responsibility I fear, though, that is very strange situation you get into when there's instability and a country. Now, especially, if say, the president gets kicked out by protesters right, there are so there's so much economic interests going on there. What do you do you send your then you're, you're peacekeeping level, forget. What do you want further them as civil defence eyes. Yeah that ok oh there's there's another problem here. I if you like, at the russian side of it, and they have they all

Eddie that treaty that we talked about that allows them to maintain a presence in a port that already allows them to have twenty five thousand troops in Crimea. Twenty four hour Tilbury systems, over a hundred armoured vehicles military planes five Russian Naval unit station there so basically just to protect Crimea from any invaders of Crimea. That's what it's worth while it's off. It's also something that we ve talked about before. That's very, very big. In international naval forces and voters in general nets called force projection. Do you it states currently run. The game enforced Projection Force projection just what it sounds like the ability for it three or maybe in the future. A corporation to project its hardware and its troops to a little cow. There are three types of navies: there call

brown water greenwater blue Water, groundwater, the ones that are closest to the shore. They can kind of only protect their territory. Greenway we can get a little bit farther out blue water. She's, the ideal would be. Navy that is able to travel around the world and kicked out Light fires for lack of a better phrase or more dignified or respect, one united, It has a blue water navy because they have aircraft carriers and not an bases around the world? The world is lousy with? U S basis position is pretty easy from any location on the earth? Outwardly? U s reality, and so this point because it allows access to the Mediterranean Sea, allow Russia to send out their own. Their own units to project force, so they ve got We think there man they ve, got submarines again. Missile boats they ve got ambition

maybe the most dangerous of all I'm? So now we come to I really weird thing now. We know that we know that this the tricky pike ass for us to do because we're talking about current events now to resolve themselves right now, the west a name countries are saying: no Russia don't take Crimea, and belong to you? It's power grab. If you do this through huge consequences? Russia is saying we're just trying to protect our interests, and the people of Crimea? Welcome we're already there calm down. Why you macro man? What do you think well, I think one of the things we have to look at is the destabilization of Ukraine, who can have thing, that's really important. Why did this happen? Who I have started the fire and you know what?

Is there is there anything behind a lot of things have been reading online? to hey. Maybe you, Russia did this or on the other side, may be the CIA. This on purpose, right to destabilize some of the gas, the the oil that's pumping out through what is it to Russia? where's. It from Russia for the natural gas from Russia to Europe. Yes, yeah much which runs through pipelines in Ukraine so in its tough to wade through all of it, because, there's a most after it the Russia destabilize, your cream for its own benefit. Origin. Everybody's favorite organization, the coup. Instigators of America also make a new a new revolution right, yeah that why Russia so quick to act and response will that

very interesting point in that does take us behind the curtain to some things that you might not hear a mainstream news, which is that Russia has a deep and abiding distrust of the west. Cause. There have been. There's been, I was a circumstantial evidence, but it did convince the Russians that the West end a particularly the United States was instantly. In coups various or various former soviet areas and areas long the russian border. Also, energy and so glad you mentioned energy. So much of this stuff goes back to energy, so Europe needs. What like a quarter of its gas comes russian, so Crimea then needs electricity from Ukraine. Europe is hesitant to anger. The

sleeping red Bare of Russia, the chair, because there are, Russia we're gonna get out, but also we should keep em the economic disaster for Russia as well. There are, there is wide support for coming become part of Russia. I guess that's that at least from I understand it has a lot to do with the ethnicity of people who live there, because it was again at one time. Crimea was of Russia it was kind of just given away or changed its name essentially by their the ruler at the time. So those people still feel Ellie. I can't speak or any of those people, but they fill a culturally culturally their part of Russia, but then It's so interesting to me when you then look at Ukraine and how Ukraine is is fairly split. Almost fifty fifty on sentence.

Towards Russia and bleeding there there. A part of Russia and then the other half believing that they want to be a part of the EU, really fascinating. Howl. How much schism there can be between in one country, cheating do not try hard enough said. Former Cubs first place been marked raised this trick. Duration, a new weekly pod gas, but deep dies into some of the craziest attempts at deception and sports. I'm your host about wax and each week I'll interview, key players and some of the most brazen and bizarre attempts to unravel the playing field. All in the name of women. Powdery MIKE are in the word. Had I had a like, led, Zeppelin T, shirt or something like that, and our classes tonight gave the signals to my coaches from Mileski, That's former Metz manager, Bobby Valentine telling me about the other.

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yeah. That's an understatement. If ever because the odd. At various times the Tatars have been deported for the labour in camps under a horrid conditions during World war, two in Russia, why a few people died as a result. So they have no compelling interest to trust the wildest stop that you might not here too often in me Three years I have to ask I I hesitate to make some predictions, but I do know that Crimea may well become a part of Russia again because their holdings now TAT S on Sunday when, when this is published, yeah coming Sunday, they're holding that vote.

We know that Western was it is not happy about it. You will probably be able to read some stories. They say there is no no option on the vote, what Just do you write like yes, oh yes, you check check for yes and offer. You can't refuse and we know that we know that water. Putin DNA, a very, smart man he's trained his background was KGB rent yet, and it just makes you Oh yeah, he's trained man he's trained his background is KGB rain yet, and it makes you cannot understand the tacticians that exists in sight of him. That is him, and I hope that around him a bit of a cautionary tale, because It it's an illustration of what would happen if CIA openly ran

U S: government safe living leave, because there have been passed, politicians who were high level in the CIA and ultimately ascended to the presidency or suppression W right, and I know that at that point It goes into a little bit of a different can of worms, but I believe this is about force projection. Control over energy in international trade. What do you think again been whatever You think I'm probably gonna go with that for all. For me, it's it's tough! To give a full on opinion coz its study, I have to have to continue watching really in as much as I go back through the history in and try and understand what is currently happening. I am left with so many. Questions that.

Like a lot of these topics, I don't I don't know what my opinion is it? Ok, I ask you resume: maybe somebody can prove disprove. My assertion that this is primarily a grab for force project, for control of energy trade I will say that the camera who but recently a congressperson in the. U S argued that the union. State should begin exporting natural gas to Europe, as a move, to sort out the clause. Thing Russia, but what they ignored. Were a couple of very important, points which are that there is no infrastructure currently in place. That would be able to perform a fraction of what they're talking about, and the Senate I think it was a senator, I'm not sure this

When, however, speaking also failed to mention what on another names yellow in it? I know a couple were in particular. If you look at Exxon, they had a deal or they have a deal currently too I want to know their names I know a couple were in particular. If you look at Exxon, they had a deal or they have deal currently to build ever leave too there have been a drill to wells right off the shore of crime. I will end here, they're they're, trying to figure out. What's going on, then you know if whatever new government comes in whoever's ruling, if they will, I can, you know continue on with it. Contracts or not so well, There is. Definitely U S There's a lot of interest in energy over there from all over the place would we're good people we're going point people to want to learn more about the situation.

Oh there a lot of places you can go Again, my go to you right now for the most interesting information coming. L is from vice news and that's vice dot com. They ve got a series running right now called russian roulette vision of Ukraine and their six part. So far in its hosted or its basically just a handful of people over there and led by Simon or Strove ski, have leave as his name fascinating. They're going into ukrainian bases. Actually, jumping over walls so that they can get into a ukrainian base and talk with the soldiers there there attempting to make contact with the the soldiers and green and soldiers and get him asian from them they are speaking with naval commanders em. It's fat is fascinating self willed. You know I'm glad you said they could also surmise. We will couple things need to say before people

Hate mail or say that I'm being pro russian about this first first Ah the russian government cartoonish, disingenuous about this entire thing? When the same look, I'm militias, I don't know your own local militias just trainer, it's right up there with whenever p. In the? U s once support for something, and they say just trying to feed their families in earlier as by this year as implying that, if you disagree with whatever crazy thing there spouting, then you want families to starve. It's kind of saying things like it's just me Is fighting for their safety? What are you Are you against safety? Do not- people to be safe and search for It was. There was a lot of disingenuous rhetoric their. Secondly, I, the primary concern here, while maybe energy for quite a few decision makers or hedge ammonium for other ones? Are the prime

it concerns should be the safety of the people these areas. She's store, living in Crimea. If you look at the span of history etc, dangerous place to live It reminds me of that old statement that, when elephant make war only the grass suffers well, and I hope that the population of Crimea does not become grass. Some down that I dont me, I'm not saying they might die, I'm just referring to that quota. Sure We would also like to hear from you. Let us know what you think. I tell us on Facebook and Twitter who, who has the right of it, is the West should they? take the Ukraine into NATO and then also get for me. Into NATO, and apart, is Russia during a reactionary thing, or is there a longer game? And what do you think will happen in the Black sea

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