It's no secret that voters distrust Washington, D.C. In numerous polls, citizens of every political overwhelmingly disapprove of Congress. But why? What's the source of this distrust and, perhaps most importantly, is there something Congress doesn't want you to know?
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we wanted to share with you
worked on called Congress. What a wine is no secret, that it seems like
whatever way the political winds blow in
these United Sates a ton of people just hate Congress right for one reason or another
this is thing that happened.
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something with Congress, people being upset
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this episode in twenty fifteen way before I thought that was way before the main
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January six would occur, but even back then,
The main stream world didn't trust. Congress did not approve of
and in this episode we attempt to answer why
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and do you sell everything you I've been witness to said defraying?
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this, my hands listeners, I'm holding up my right and for the guys here and there is seriously
five puncture. Looking things on the side between my index finger, my thumb and it looks like a bite right.
but it's not right!
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by the grease egging of Greece. Yes, you know they say about this week. You gets the it puts the Greece on it.
ah and or healthy gets the vote again, yes, which a we
we are talking about something acquire relates to our most recent video Congress. We're talking about Congress today, ladies and gentlemen, so the first,
first things, first, why why we? Why do we have a corpse? I guess I can take this. So the United States, federal government, you're being a proper here, was purposely separated and three distinct bodies entities. If U S legislative, executive and Jude
This is all kind of basic civics class stuff. I'm under this arrangement each branch was given the ability to check and balance the other sort of like one handwashing, the other etc, so that no branch becomes more powerful than the other, which is called separation of powers and is the basis of the entire american system. Government also applies in all cases, except for one which is
presidential, pardon yeah. The separation of powers is extremely important. When look
at how the United States functions out was formed, how it was more than how it functions. End
the that that idea of the presidential pardon being one of the only things that, as an exception to this,
three powers working together to try and make sure nobody has too much of it. That is a unilateral decision. The president can make up for his own reasons. Is yes, as the only situation
I've been some controversial ones. I you may have heard a couple times, at least recently with the past three or four presidencies, people who were
be acquaintances or
friends, even family who ve been pardoned,
from non dimension that Turkey, that you pardon I mean come full circle. Every year
They didn't yards. I wonder, is it the same turkey?
it's just a stand in for all Turkey's, then. Maybe it
maybe- but there is one other thing that is kind of
in a nebulous world outside of these, these three powers working together, and that is the executive order, which interest
Lee is it's almost like a son.
gesture in to the other powers right to the other? Three that the
second of office can say: hey we. We would like this to happen, but
Negative order cannot be good.
to the actual citizens of the United States like the present broccoli,
I couldn't say exe,
and then each citizens within a state have to do at our each state has to do that. Iraq Arme said yeah. It can also.
Not be, cannot be directed at Congress or at the Supreme Court. So you can't say: sign an executive
border, saying that now there will be
Seven in a half justice is one of them will just do twenty hours.
Yeah, so given sorry just to clarify its given to an agency right rights like the EPA, the deal cheese, something like the exact end thee
the reason that we have this complex order.
Paper scissors system.
is to enforce a kind of czech imbalance
what that means which every again, as Knoll said earlier this kind of early so
big stuff. It means it is meant to keep,
one branch from controlling every thing, however,
I know there are a lot of people, the audience who say we're, that's good. That's part of the beauty of our democracy. Funny
are you guys technically the? U S is not
really, democracies direct democracy.
Proceed. Originally the former government, where people decide policy matters directly, so
Every time, the? U S would make a decision all. Oh
all three hundred by thirty percent
million of US
together and say. Well, you know, I guess I got this bill here about
Andrew dicing, the size for straws I feel like they should be in a democracy
that or a pure democracies even simply look holiday, dramatic direct democracy that maybe
thing that member hearing about when the Occupy Wall Street,
were happening and you would actually have groups of people who,
make proclamations, but they would take turns
Did you guys ever go down to one of those in fast
to see it working at least somewhat working on principle, but
I cannot imagine that functioning on with three hundred something million people are trying to do this right
yeah there's that's what the founding fathers of the? U S thought as well, but there if we're, not a true democracy,
Kind government are we who is
This tiny scab well, never mind! I ll answer your question lad the! U S is technically speaking a republic, because what we do is we vote
Or other people to go and be our representatives right to have our opinions, so
I will say: ok, this person represents a crap load of people in Vermont.
yeah but they're all kind of the same rights, so it makes
One person would represent them. Sure, yes,
if you live in the U S and go you're only really rep voting for that representative and we talked to a height, have to vote for every decision. A policy. The founding fathers thought that
democracy? Direct democracy was terrible idea, instability, crime, dogs and cats, sleeping together revolution, their property mob rule. Man is one of the biggest problems they could happen.
and especially if you guys
it's so horrible, even think about, but the disparities in
levels of education and understanding throughout humans mean mob rule is terrifying, he'll haven't we take for granted that that we have not really had to,
experience too much of that yeah, no you're right. We really do. I don't think I've experienced mob rule in any situation. While this there's like a going to a concept, for example, where you here at this picture, going to a contract and gives swept up in a marsh pet yeah you're not into it at all. What you just have to just go lamp and go along for the ride has provided a simple version of what mob rule within ten years,
and then there's read it. Oh yeah shots fired year was more of certain jerk action, so we could say, if we add an adjective, we could call the some different kind of democracy. Maybe a representative democracy, because we elect representatives and those are the people that we're going to talk about today. Interesting me enough, though it could also be called a constitutional democracy, because the Supreme Court, according to the constitution appointed for life
selected, never fired, say whatever they want. It's a law, that's a little weird I mean in History- is going to look back on that as as a vet,
that's compromise, sure,
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so I saw how did this all work out these people that we here today
accuracy, is often used to describe a government that gets its power from the people and is accountable to those people. When it comes to use the power, then it that's the thing right of the.
That we're all sending to washing each election? Our are out
can't do it to the hallowed halls of power as a working out how to people feel about Congress. Well, then, people hate them here is a good step. I love this with every ounce of my being so. According to five thirty, eight, the common public policy pulling in twenty fourteen Congress, held a staggering thirteen percent approval rating. Now, if you're, not into polls that might just gonna write off what does anyone me here? Some things with a higher rating one charge our banks to dog poop, three traffic jams for cockroaches, five, completely unfair. In my opinion, Brussels Brown. I love brought on the grounds of Brussels brows and six nickel back, and you know I'm almost hired a ragged unequal back. I think it
It's got really been through a lot. They really have really guys. Really, I don't know it's making me listen to their music. Just look at his photograph. Look outside the finger of nickel back looks. I know I think Sir look like wings. They come in on the side of that photographs.
I was at a Halloween party in two thirteenth and there
a house mix of music that was going on in. There is a tiny little computer in one of the corners in
Living room area. There was playing the mix and Chandler our co worker.
Would go over and throw a nickel back song in the mix and
the owner of the house guts,
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dude. I've never seen someone so upset about some music and again, this guy probably prefers nickel back to
thank you
also it strange because a lot of people to participate in voting every four
years people will turn out to vote for the president. However, that is not that's not playing the game to the full set of rules right you're supposed to vote for the person was
post to represent you. However, a lot of people don't do that. So we
they do so there is a little bit of irony in there. You know with what people vote for Brussels Rout. I think I would, I think, they're tasty
especially if you pay him with a low honey honey.
Yeah reserve so who freed like the time had a little bit today, is why people often don't participate. If you like it,
first the vote, and why why Congress is so very, very unpopular. So what is a guys? What don't people like about
Congress, your eye. It is crazy that of that, that is
a real power as a citizen at three citizens of the United States right here we listening if Europe is in a mean that
our least on paper, that is our power right. It's a very important right on paper.
Salute me. Well, one of the reasons that people dont vote and for a while there I didn't vote is apathy because it feels like it doesn't matter.
Especially if you live in an area. The way votes are counted
If you live in an area that is predominantly one way or the other way, because we have a two party system of its gerrymandered yeah yeah,
gerrymandering as you did. It were honest,
doesn't matter what my opinion is. If I don't fall in with the majority
of hearing Lana, which, by all accounts, is something of a cultural harbours. A lot of fun
tv the goes on here. Let a music lot of interesting culture, but it is a sliver of the overall. You now make up of Georgia and we can vote to a blue in the face,
and that's not really get it. Things turn red we get away with again. It doesn't really matter what side drawn, because you could say the same thing:
certain areas in New York. I mean just like in from the opposite direction, of course, but I think that
me at least in my experience in for a lot of people. I know that feeling of apathy that you can actually doing it.
See meaningless power? Agree on the not personally agree that that is definitely a factor.
Yeah and then another thing. I think that a lot of people daughter like about Congress overtake him at the average voter is that here is a disconnected. It doesn't seem represented. You know, like the average age remember, the House of Representatives is run fifty's,
Heaven and for the vast majority of our listeners, many members of the House of Representatives and Congress are going to be financially in a much different plagues without stout. You mentioned about the the income
member Congress. Yes, where the act from there
put in the fifth per cent I'll. I believe
of all incomes and inside the United States,
and that's just what they get paid for me
a member of Congress and for all
on. The Senate, in particular, is not about the present it makes the president
a four hundred thousand a year, because I just have this memory even from when I was a kid. My mom told me how much politicians made- and I remember thinking that doesn't seem like much. You know, like our think they ve been
millionaires or in the thing is there
lot of benefit, some say: amazing, an anniversary got a lot of opportunities to become garage
especially then, if you're on the board of a couple things you know, I'm a nurse, I believe they're certain restrictions on so thereby
as we are going to find out a little later, their ways around which I think brings us to another point about why the sort of related to the apathy about why people are distrustful Congress is theirs. I think a pretty palpable sense that these folks aren't necessarily in it for the greater good there in it for their quoting quote constituents in there for their special interests genome in kind of like too
propel their financial interests or their yellow their career. Their question hour, there consultancy so the year this. This brings us to some disquiet, all things right and who are the true constituents. One thing that we ve talked about on the show before is your: how race car drivers where sponsorship patches, I would be great if elected representatives had where those two. I remember this gas- a great idea that I am less and less
we all about it. As we go on to this seems like a better and better idea. Seventy two fantastic idea we'll yet the way a just this is my frame of reference. A u of sea fighter or an enemy fighter has a big banner that has all their things on it if they, when they go and make a speech, just had to be behind them at all times,
bring about that have to really go fine with the print on some time,
maybe just make a bigger banner right, so yeah maybe sneak a bigger ban, or maybe that's the problem
this country right lays heat? I beg you to create jobs. Do now to say: that's true, I was just thinking about the graphic designers will be working on that
The thing, though, with Congress Alot of the rank and voters amongst that group that we put ourselves amongst out of the rank and file booters see Congress as somewhat above the law.
came the head with an insider trading scandal for a long time. Insider trading was just fine Congress, both Jeff,
when you could keep it quiet and nobody is really
talking about it,
the with the nature of lobbying you ve, always
handholding right and negotiations going on between the congressional
do you mean it's just a hot Tipp right, fine,
we got a hard Tipp, but buddy,
comes a problem then, because when we're talking about constituencies
when are they really looking after the people? They represent a they looking after the people, the hand that is giving them so money unless
a lot of? Unfortunately, that's a lot of voters see it without knowing every single congressperson. I can't really say. Ah, I can't really speak to it, but it is a popular and widespread opinion,
at these representatives are these elected officials are not representing the people so much as the the powers, and we came. We we saw this really great thing the intercept published on back in what name or something this year. You may recall that you may recall that a few years ago, Congress gun trouble with insider trading software. Mentioning, however, lawyers last summer in twenty fourteen filed a brief claiming that an s he see security Strangers Commission investigation of insider trading
to be blocked on principle, because law makers in their staff constitutionally protected from such inquiries, given the nature of their work, because they are constantly in contact with these lobbying groups? Member that thing that checks and balances was also because
insider trading probes would violate the separation of powers between
the legislative and executive branch seems so counter intuitive. To me, this seems like it's a rule, to keep their from having to be any rules.
But there was this thing- called the stock act right here.
and to all those pass by Congress, and it was meant to try and enforce some of these things right to stop insider trading. However,
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well we'll talk about it. We don't want idea of air. Can the young ok moving on here's, where it gets crazy
because, as you might have guessed, ladies and gentlemen, com,
This is the subject of a lot of conspiracy theories, some big some small sum, I think completely
true and then some then cut a wild and then suddenly somewhere,
between yeah- and these are apart from the general stories of corruption, that you're here on a micro and macro scale, all across the internet alyosha
I can buy stuff like J, F K, ways, gentleman, John F Kennedy and the House select
committee on assassinations raid, the h as see a the investigator, both Kennedy. Martin Luther king,
deal here and is something that we talk about four
on numerous episodes, and it's a fascinating tie.
when those things were, when the ask many gosh, what is it the heat
The selection of on assess? Ok, when they were?
doing their thing just because for people
reading along at the time. Again, not me eighty three over here
they you're following
and with this news in it just seems like there is information that or you're not getting all of the information right yes or that it is changing.
so the SBA actually met from ninety seven, sixteen nineteen, thirty, eight and then finally, in seventy nine issued its final report that concluded at Kennedy was probably assassinated by the mafia and that the CIA was lacking
and its investigation right, yeah that the CIA did not actually in assist, even in the limited role they were required to assist in and a lot of people had the here's the thing, so they did say that they believe there was a conspiracy to assassinate John F Kennedy. They said that they did not think any anti Castro groups or necessarily entails
all groups were involved, they couldn't find out who was wall was connected to, and he's got some very interesting adventures before that for that year, when he performs ease ass needs, we are travelling. Yes, some very strange travelling and many people have studied this looked at it. Neither an attempt to you,
their pre existing opinion or in an attempt to find out what actually happened. So all this,
is one of the crown jewels. I would our
The reason is shortly. People don't necessarily trust Congress regard
of what political stripy like to paint yourself with, regardless of your philosophical,
differences on the nature of federalism, etc. You know, if you get the idea that your own government is is shooting,
he rose. We are working to trust them. Strangely
if, though, in this instance, this is the House of Representatives is saying that hey, you
government is like may have had
in this. Releasing there was a conspiracy right then
they don't give you anything more in the next. The next thing is what I think
The Congress seem even Lester
Furthermore, I yes because it this way,
in eighteen. Seventy nine! It not only consisted of the full report, but also twelve volumes of appendices on both assassinations.
and in that was published by Congress. I did have one quick question. I was wondering if either of you know how many pages this report was unjust, always kind of amazed at how massive some of these official documents are, and we think about how easy it is to slight things in their when there's that much just absurd overload of information interesting to see that this is like slighted there, because it is about
one page suicide. It were so they decided at doors, were a thought well well volumes and then
at a single volume summary report, so without gaining exact page count for you, it's it's addiction, guy. You know it's huge and I would say that a lot of people probably didn't read. The whole thing got someone to read it for organ someone's rhythm food.
Which is pretty common there when I was gonna fish with with, however, just throw this back in just mention
that there are
you're, still a lot of information that we that exists
that was found during this House Select Committee on assassinations that is still locked away and
It will be released if these
the present it decides that it will be released and it's this date there we'll just continually beep.
back until a president, decides that a it can come out this year. How does that work? I mean if it isn't occur to a president, even consider it to someone just like
put in front of them say: hey how about this thing using air you now, let's keep pushing it. I'm feelin spunky today, let's, let's just go ahead and let it out there, I would say the highly calculated decision, because
you know. Some people know what's included in those documents and depending on how it's going to affect things to me, the council, based
Mr President, since this committee at least know what's going on politically, you know strategically. Yet probably not the best idea to let this same thing with alien stewed shared is says, mats brain yet. So it is strange because we we talk a little bit about this without going too far into the J F K episode or something robber. Blake Lee was the chief council. The committee change some, whose views in two thousand and three interview
He is he strongly comes against the CIA and says that I think all of their statements representations are suspect and
I think the CIA was obstructing justice and I'm just can read this code. If I can't analytical
I no longer believe that we were able to conduct an appropriate investigation of the agency and its relationship to Oswald. We now know
that the agency withheld from the Warren Commission, the CIA Mafia plots they kill Castro had.
Commission, known of the plaza, would have followed a different path of in its investigation,
see unilaterally deprived the commission of a chance to obtain the full truth, which will now never be known, cheese
I don't wanna go like with the resolute boy.
Congress was fighting to
Congress as an entity fighting itself, because when we talk about these
ports in the secrecy and the secret interpret
nations of laws and stuff. There are a lot of people Congress who are fighting against it and saying Hey is reduced.
How can we all people now? Can we hold people culpable for a thing
That is not like they're not allowed to know about the bizarre thing agreed.
That brings one of the last points. Throne I go on to on mass surveillance. Mass surveillance.
because when it decided that mass surveillance can happen guest
who makes those decisions guys, is it no? No,
I wish I wish he was well no, no, I don't.
who makes this decision maker had to let go this particular delusions of grandeur, although that will the laws obviously arm are decided by the Senate and by the wall by thee.
Some representatives and then the Senate in it
One of those things where these are,
representatives deciding,
whether or not our stuff is private,
private or not, in this case
a huge conversation about a ban. What's the future, a privacy, oh yeah,
who are you I mean, is that we can. I think we have several times on the measures I feel about it. Yeah yeah, it's
the strange in horrible thing to think about how quickly privacy is just not going to exist very very soon and how recent it was historically
they go back to. I think it was wasn't our conversation about the deep web
where we really got in to some of that stuff. That might be a really good absurd to listen to you if you're interested in this agreed. I have a question for you guys for close
so we did have another story about someone in Congress being obsessed with conspiracy theories, which, which will have the whole
for later day. There are just a lot of searches for it, but I have a question for you guys. Would you like to hear
Andrew List of things, you're congressperson won't tell you. It was on the show share your course. I found this as well as regarding in art, so this is by a couple of former senators
in former house reps in many cases lobbyists right the bills? Yes, we this right, John Oliver
five or ten lobbyists per climbers person for a high profile issue,
and then see most of this
offers on the hill or in their early to meet twenties. Why is that? I guess that the people who work the hours-
that nature man, interns, yes and then
as soon as someone gets the Washington, whether republican or Democrat, their party pulls them into a retreat and apparently tries their best to brainwash them, like all progress is built on.
beating the other party yeah party lines when
You can see that happening and getting increasingly increasingly morceau over the years and
falls and emails do matter, probably more than you think
one of them is assigned to a database and others database the tracks everyone rather and then, when somebody's going out to vote they'll ask for that number of how many people are furrier again it well and, let's see
It's against ethics regulations to fund raising calls from the congressional office. So a lot of people go to another office. Just down the street
I've seen I have seen when we were in DC banned. You remember, seeing all the other official
offices, war, congressmen, but not officially congressional offices right. Yes, yes and it's it's weird, because there's so much
there's so much stuff going on that is accepted? Is
definitely the rule of thumb.
Not necessarily in in an explicit written form in a legal document, namely those who, just a few things that I thought were important. Some
Oh, I guess I'm just imagining ok, so we already know that a huge amount of time
I am for any elected official, is spent campaign
for the next time they have to come up for election right right. Yes, and now I'm just imagining.
All of our elected officials having too
Eve the office like they have to go it be like taking a smoke. Breakin haven't a walk to another,
building or something, but every time when in a way
in season comes around instead of focusing on wide. There
Representatives want or need to be fast yet and hurt in the other office. Do in their thing
but I guess they can do congressional stuff. None office right
and then there are also its true and they are also there. Also members of Congress who are just Pasadena hopes to make up a positive change or, to accurately represent their constituents, by which I mean the people.
voted them into office. If you have a list of those people, we would love to hear it why? I also think it stresses its easy to beat up
Congress, you're right, isn't easy target. It's an easy target.
it's for the right person, it's it's a tremendous responsibility and it's a tremendous opportunity. Why are you what's that? Are you
I would never get elected, you know I don't know and elected I dont know. I know we get away
I don't know if I would get elected I before him yeah. I think a lot of people would versus to watch the world burn. Seeing what you do. There is yeah that'll, be my dad I'll, be my slogan left wing it s, not a wreck.
With the well
I can imagine you being in a public office, I'm not sure how to feel about it
say that no one not ivy, I think, you're a truly live of diplomatic. Thank you anything. You could actually work with people. I think you could get your way been. I think you couldn't you could unite the eye.
whenever the waiting. I see it all we do. Is we do ok, so I'll agree to write and for office? If one of
You guys will help me out a run for the same office in the opposing parties on ok. So
still you, whatever we want, all I'll, be craziest I'll, be there
We all know that that no no lyre it doesn't matter who gets elected. Then we can still use what we were going to do the other ones. The right here. Be there a bet it's like donating to both parties. Ok done! That's what they go.
brothers. They write. It is
I think it is George. Does George Soros? Do that? I'm pretty sure. I don't know what it's I don't know what it's like. I haven't been in that rarefied area. It's like any bat
I mean you got about a little array a little over there. The pay I'm gonna make up the difference. I you know I think, you're on the right track for that air up there now I've I've never gambled in, like a casino,
I mean that's good, then, like I've done, Russia relay and urges. That is why we ask you ran a russian relay his kid. I ran a russian relay and I dont speak rush,
and so I was hilarious. I must have been drinking. It was tough, tough guy
we're gonna get out of here, nor you think you can kind of why it did you and have the final word o real, quick. You guys already know this. We say it. Every time will just cut pass the small time Facebook, twitter, conspiracy, stuff. We have
sites that they want you to know where three conceal podcast last word goes to you, Mr Brown. I guess I would just you know. I would encourage people to cut through the apathy,
and try to do some research and figure out what issues of them are most important to you, and you now cast a vote accordingly and must be part of the process.
If you can, I mean I understand that its it seems futile at times and I feel the same way. But we do have you look? It was going on other parts of the world. We are very, very lucky to be in a situation where even have the guise of any kind of voice so take that for what it's worth at funnel happiness and that's a pretty good way
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