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Outdoors and socially distant: yeah yeah, it's outdoor, socially distance and the alien tries to communicate with us. How would you try to communicate with an alien there? How you music, I dont math, I dont know what are they doing that arrival movie? It was some combination of those things here. Rivals got some really interesting stuff, attempting to speak in tones and in ways that those creatures would speak. I mean us boiler alert, but you know I like it. I, like your thinking, winds, were closing colours of the third kind kind of thing. I wonder what happens if the extraterrestrials species is attempting to reach us from their planet like what happens, then hat? Who gets that message and Could it be kept secret yeah and how would we even understand with their communicating? These are questions?

We do not solve this classic episode. Supposed to ghosts and government cover. Ups, history is riddled with unexplained event. You can turn back now or learn stuff. They don't want you to know everyone. Welcome back to the show the big show. My name is Matt. Then, and that's our super producer. No behind that behind the boards the average can appoint to him he's right over there. If you have a very specific form, probably nonexistence Anastasia, you can feel our workers moving, probably feels like avatar smells or something of TAT feels feels very, very nice unassuming. So it's, Justine that our sag way or are banter at the top of this episode concerns sensation right, because that is one of the abiding

you reversal characteristics of life, it's the ability to since something From your outside environment and then in some way to respond to it, what when we, when we think about what we? actually is Owen spoiler? I forgot met. What's the name of this, this episode will search for extra terrestrial life, so life not on planet earth, yes, and also a bonus points to us as a species. If we find someone intelligent wipe us out here so anyway we're talking about we're talking about this search for life somewhere out there in the darkness of space, and one thing that we have to do before we even address the idea of looking for life is defying it right wait. What exactly is this whole life stick or life?

is the it's the thing worthy condition that separates plants in organic material and animals from inorganic material. So of kind of like what you said Ben the ability to sense the outside world to taken stimuli, so that It also includes the the ability to grow the capacity. growth, ok and reproduction, you have to be able to make copies of yourself. You have to have some kind of functional activity. Either, whether that movement more? really slow rate of growth, This also one other thing: the continual change until death. Although that's not necessarily true, because we ve seen some of the animals we talked about and when the immortality stuff earlier, like new, tricky, Latour Topazes, the ad, isn't that the jellyfish that a

and it turns into a child, essentially just going through entropy yeah. Ok, I see, I like the way, say that last for better going through intervened, we know there are different types of life while there are different types of hypothetical life, so We are carbon based life forms you listening to this right now the overwhelming probability that you are also a carbon based life. form and less extraterrestrials or artifice The intelligent programmes have read the level of which we were unaware, or unless we're all just holograms inside some huge matrix right, yeah inside dream of some gigantic turtle and in that sense the carbon vicious bits of data yeah. Just a firing sign, apps snaps. Rather I so we know that their

our theoretical forms of biology that could exist. Other lifeforms as possible. Carbon might not be the only creature in the game, Silicon baseline forms ammonia, methane, hydrogen, fluoride in and so on, right and this concept of non carbon life. Does a very important thing. Theoretically opens the door widens the spectrum for Zeno biologists and sigh five. and so on. To look at a wider range of possible homes for alien life right exactly No, you can look at. You can look at a planet that isn't that there is a lot of water on the planet. Great. There is a lot of carbon, but there might be a bunch of silica, the bunch of alone there you go and made their way the battle of Methane Lake Smith. Nothing fool!

all over the planet? Nay, let's go check those up yet, and I think that's, I think, that's a fascinating! Well, I want to go back to types of life toward the end of this, for something that's complete speculation, but one thing and we learn- are continual search for extra terrestrial life. Is that. We still have a lot to learn about terrestrial life, there what we don't know like, for instance, what the most common life form Well, can I guess, I guess what I I would guess some type of bacteria bacterium yeah. I would have to end the it's it's interesting, because there great article. I think it was in Smithsonian that tells us that a ok here we go to my first me. Pronunciation of Episode Pelagia backed her beak, which sound sort of like it is from Eastern Europe.

paean shoe store. This single celled organisms is usually cited as the most common Yes, I'm in the world, its debts, that statistically, if you were rolling. The dice should become an organism. The odds are that you would become this. One was cruising around yeah. What that might not be the is because it turns out there's something they eat p, unique. Ok, that is also a widespread just all over the place. He had numerous, yet the virus. Ah! Well, ok, so here's the thing this virus panic, has four different viruses: that Paris ties it her prey on and one of those which has the incredibly

A memorable name of HDTV C, o one o p, is them common of those viruses, ok, and so, if We consider a virus to be a living thing. Then it turns out that our boy h, tv is the world's most common life form, but therein and lively debate right, yeah he's a virus alive. Is it why it does not meet all of the different criteria? It definitely meets the reproduction you're right sure as functional activity. I would, I would argue, Why do I will again? I don't know how that deleted as early defined by a functional activities a little bit. I don't know well that soft law right what about capacity for growth, Meanwhile, I can change in his brief reproduction and growth is very dear. differentiate those I will happen

someone been well because the thing is there. a virus for people Think of irish counts as life. A virus has to use the metabolic process of its home. in order to grow and reproduce day yoga so I'd, say you're virus is inherently a parasite. So this means there they they may not actually be life. Are there some between life. You their third category, right, yeah, there's some weird, maybe there's weird spectrum of life to Nottingham, but Kay, so we know that our world is teeming with life. Yes, it's everywhere else, I was going to adjust our name of an ill for yet more her home, but there's a ton of it yet everywhere where we do know where he has gone on planes, but we're we're doing a great job of

can a getting rid of finning. The herd of life right humans are right, we're we're getting rid of the lot of the eye or order animals for sure, There are more tigers in CAP dvd. I think in access than their own, the wild three are in the United States, which may be a pike ass for different day by day If there are so many different types of life that we know of and most common life is still baby life on our planet. Then the question is why have we found anything else? Well, let's have a very simple answer. The youth Ours is a huge Bertha yeah. It's true yeah I mean come on. The universe is: all if we're gonna talk about definitions, the universe is every single

use, all of the matter, all of the energy all of it that exists. that is the universe, a lot of stuff- and you know, if you think about just the pale blue That image were. You know some things, Carl Sagan talk about just how insignificant our tiny little planet is an even how small our son is in comparison to other stars realize that we have this massive amount of life. Just on this tiny little speck of dust. you just know that their there has to be something else out there somewhere Think of it. Sometimes, where have you ever seen an animal, a weird place like you're in a grocery store, and yes, he, a bird looking at a bird, get here sooner load flute, hailed, lizard, atta, Jim one time I ask: what were you doing in here? Yeah can work out

something. I'm trying to take them outside or somewhere where they belong. I wonder they comparison. The pale blue dot makes me think of that, but if we were to talk numbers about the size of the known universe, it so big that we do not have technology to figure out how big it is. It's right there we can we to a certain extent, but that is as far as our technology has gotten us yet right, yeah. We can see the part that we can detect, extend in all directions for about ten billion light years. Based on these observations, experts believe the universe is between ten And maybe twenty billion years old on the earth is relatively relative? a rookie in the game of being only four and a half billion years. yeah and life didn't originated on earth for a while long time after it was created right, yeah, we're still figuring out, poured out to it. So we ve got these people called cosmology s study

malagigi the study of the just the whole universe. You sound like a pig ambitious degree right and of course, to some of these folks, the Euro, has no limits in space or time galaxies. be travelling away from earth in each other and ever increasing speeds, providing this is for the concept that the entire universe as well as apart, we know about, is just expand. Each skilling favours those outer yap, and here that's that's, really cool supportive lonely place. the thing about right and blood and by the way, if you want to know more about this, this kind of stuff cosmology I highly recommend you check out cosmos if you're not already watching it on National Geographic and Fox fantastic,

No, I'm glad you mention cosmos by Neil digress ICE and had another show before that. There was also good Nova and you- and I are also pretty big fans very science shows these signs. Shoes inevitably if they touch on space, they have to tackle some of the big questions which first there's there's this huge paradox right, life on earth is everywhere, some food, of life, it maybe don't even see MIKE Good ideas are still around We have the universe the biggest empty. room in reality, no courses not empty right. Just mostly, we know that has to be something. So it appears that the problem with Fine, Jean Alien Life, which we thought vileness pike ass before, is that the gap in space isn't even as worrisome as the gap

time right absolutely and as we know, we are interconnected, so so people people have kind of point some of these things even before they are really understood. What the universe was when it was made of what the galaxies were Rau. You know even what rotated orbiting around. What people been looking been thinking all men, what the heck is going on up there and we come up with stories. The Heavens and an beings that live up in those stars here, and so so there's been this constant search at least internally, but for what the heck is going on up there and in nineteen fifty nine. This thing called Seti came around the which is the search for extraterrestrial intelligence and in that year, nineteen fifty nine Cornell physicist, Giuseppe Capponi.

I think I saw an NGO Sony and Philip Morrison. They publish this article in nature, which is isn't that a journal and they point the fact that the potential for using microwave radio with they could use that to community eight or at least send signals. Now, and then also possibly receive signals. There were coming in towards her right, and this was a. This- was a very interesting finding on before go over it Let me go ahead and establish some of the other things you there's a thing called. The Fermi paradox You know about that. If life exists, why boy found it? We know you- and I talked about that with the time and space and then there's something else will explore called the Drake equation. Let's introduce like, I know, it turns out in the sixties. He is a young radio astronomer, which was a thing even back. Then he had come to

same idea about microwave radio and he conducted the first microwave radio search for signals from other solar systems in nineteen sixty in spring. I believe so here's what he did for two months. he aimed eight and ten, I West Virginia in the direction of two new by stars that he thought were kind of like our son. He turned his receiver to what he called the MAGIC free when see which we talk about our video series right met. So what what's the magic Quincy or is the twenty one centimeter line or the one thousand four hundred and twenty megahertz. That's that's what you're! That's the signal? Yeah! That's a frequency, the signal, its a neutral hydrogen and this turns out to be a spot on the radio dial that Cosu near Component

Morrison also believed, had significance drakes two months searching the skies for life, did gardener a response and get some interests, but not not from the intelligent life is looking for aliens. It was terrestrial from the Soviets, and then in the nineteen sixties, the soviet union- in pretty much gel, held sway over the city project and frequently just it would adopt all these goals strategies and rather than searching nearby stars, the soviets they just basically set up these. Also, army, directional antenna and they would observe just these wide swathes of the sky and They were just going to count on the existence of at least a few advanced civilization somewhere out there. In this, you know the scope that there are looking through and they would

they just assume that one or more of them would be radiating. Some kind of transmission power on their planet, from whatever it is it they inhabit. Yeah and you'll probably be communists to write lobbyists we're making assumptions they were like I've, mind, dish sort of like the the Soviet search Sha La La when there when they said while clearly this mystery religion and city is real What are you guys? So? What hope is coming out here in this part of the show. is that Seti itself, while there the Seti Institute. While there are Seti projects, theirs is much less centralize than you might think. Seti is just an acronym pursuit right that search for extraterrestrial intelligence. So

a different group, some of which may be familiar. Some which may be unfamiliar, have messed with it, and there is a wide swath steward of opinions about this so NASA even got involved drank oh yeah, so one of the beginning of the nineteen Seventys the aims research centre- that's in Our view, California, by the way they begin to consider technology required for a true search. There would be effective enough. You know too, to prove this stuff, so team of outside spurts under the direction of the Sky Bernard Oliver, for like Hewlett, Packard right, that's correct heap. He made this ready for NASA, which was known as project Cyclops. You ve probably heard of that before. If your fan of the show in the cycle, Report, it basically gave an analysis of Seti Science in that Canada, tech issues. They were dealing with at the time. It's really there

our nation, on which a pretty much all of the subsequent work from said is based yeah anyways, some pretty good news to because during time more and more people began to believe hey this. We might have the science of some two to actually they call him a gas urge, use me microwave radio and so the James Research Centre had some study programmes and so did Jackie Alan Pasadena and they started working together to do targeted searches, witches opposite of what the USSR was doing, but eventually Congress terminated the funding, so we're wasting money, we're throwing dollars it imaginary beings. Essentially we can't find them so people began getting disappointed. In said he but said he can

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this man always thinking we could each red off some projects of Seti O greater autonomy is ok, but I'm gonna start with project My own at the very first were yet it's the first Seti search was conducted, I astronomer, Frank Drake, that we talked about, and I was in nineteen sixty than theirs. Ohio state. Big ears Seti project launched in seventy three, and that is the one that we mention in the video. That's where we got the wireless signal which, which is either a natural phenomenon that we have never heard of before or since, and so can explain, or somehow is a signal from intelligent life, either way it's fascinating under the vigour hours shut down in nineteen, only seven for a golf course for golf course. Course: Ok, so then we ve got project surrender

that you may have heard of his well, that was launched by the University of California Berkeley and that was in nineteen. Seventy nine yeah NASA also the hr in s high resolution microwave survey in nineteen. Eighty two and distant you two. Ninety three one Congress cut the funding, they ve got project matter, let this one's really This was the mega channel extra terrestrial array, and it was launched at Harvard University in nineteen. Eighty five and it was meant to search, Point four million point five hurts channels you're, really low frequency, yeah yeah and then there's the color. this article Seti Cosette he that's an early one. Nineteen nineties eyes searching for laser signals. Many got pro it vader another familiar one, possibly the billion channel extra terrestrial re array. There was also launched

Harvard University in nineteen. Ninety five and again searching billions of channels, and then this project Phoenix, which Seti Institute a large to continue the work of NASA Project Argus which launched in ninety six- and this was a steady leagues, all skies a project, Sir Lucan everywhere that sort of like shaking the entire haystack any hoping pickers off on a needle. Well, maybe that's unfair, maybe Then there is the southern sovereign debt and then there's the one of them exciting ones. For anybody who feels like personally. ending a hand to the search for intelligent life, Seti at home, now. This is this is the it came out in eighteen, ninety nine! I think- and I think that around the time that I signed up for it anyway, centrally literally a a programme that ran counter behind the scenes on your computer and it just crunched data

ethically use analyzing data. Did you ever do that? I yeah did it first, time even did it here and how that works. On my computer, when I go home, I remember that overnight it would be running Seti home soon. Maybe this could be your way or our way to pigeon and fine intelligently. But now know. Please could I get some conspiracy me, perfect. Thank you. The reason we are asking for this music of courses, because now it's time to talk about whether there could be a cover up because met your memory. We did our video a lot of guys were commenting on Youtube about how sad he has a secrecy clause. Nestled publicly disclose things right,

Please help me a little bit about that message. You gotta think about which just think about the pursuit of science science, when Europe conducting a study, you know, and then you have some findings that you really want someone to know about it. You want the world to know about four Ino fame for and the advancement of science you You generally make your your work known. You release it. You get it descended to journalists to get it peer, reviewed bread and but enough, that's on a general wide level, but at the localised level in the study that occurring, though one study that a group of scientists is doing somewhere. That's usually kept pretty private. Ok because you don't want,

other scientists to know exactly what it is that you are looking at because again, you're searching for, I used the phrase payment fortune, but you're gonna get scooped exactly so lashes between scientists right trying to keep things secretive. Might there's another group That's even more tenuous. Furthermore, tenuous relationship with a swift- individuals. I I think I know you're talking about lawyer, DIA journalist right the media yeah that that does make sense, because if you read News, whether on the internet, whether through a newspaper or beyond your local television, you realize over time that the deadline he and journalists have a tendency to grab something sensationalize it and run with it so if somebody publishes study that says we found and a certain type of a meal

ass. The wind combined in this certain situation will do you. No action acts than people come out. People made come out with amino acid, has intelligence solving puzzles actually that's why the the press releases are so important for our places, like NASA Cdc, things like that or if we actually have a you know everyone you'll hear that NASA going to make an announcement or the CDC will make announcement, and they have a very public in his usually a pr person there trying to give out the message that works both ways in my mind, then oh, it's not only is it trying to make clear what the information is also trying to manage its managing, exactly spinning it yeah, I see that's a thank you- and I talked about this to Lake-

we know that in the sky wrote a book called the eerie silence. Are we alone in the universe? Professor Paul Davies? He was the chair of the city, post detection, science and technology cast group for awhile, and he said that the group themselves grappled with the need- public disclosure, but they ultimately decided to keep the did. Keep it behind closed where's kind of decisions, because they were worried that the information we doubt prematurely, they might be in for lack of a better phrase, a boy cry, Wolf situation, more euro window. While signal came out, there was a huge huge media, just outpouring of loud and speculate speculation, the same what the heck was. The thing is it aliens? Oh, my god, we know now. We now know that we're not alone in the universe because of the while signal right yet and which be true. I bought it, but you know it's not everyone thing right right, we are we

without a little bit in our videos years again view having checked it out, do check it out, as we learned soliloquy stuff in their especially there's that one quote Jerry em in says where the very beginning of video yeah, I don't want to ruin it for you check it out, check it out, so we also I figured it was best for us to go straight to this Worse when we're talking about some of the conspiratorial stuff, whether there has been evidence that has been suppressed so from the Seti's frequently asked questions they tackle a lot of this stuff. One question has said he found life residents life on other planets. The answer is no sign. They found no clear indications of life passed her present beyond the earth. There ve been tantalizing suggestions, that the Viking mission might have detected evidence of microbial microbial Life on Mars, therefore also fossil MIKE

jobs in some Mars rocks, but they have to verify. Yet, though, if you believe that there is an extra terrestrial contact with earth already, then of course it's it's easy to see how Seti could seem like smoke and mirrors economy, but I have to say it. It can be difficult to believe that if there were heads the terrestrials on the planet? It's difficult to believe how they could remain a secret agreed. Snow at one of my favorite part of the answer to map which is where I can. I ask you, you asked me about the sort of stuff I wanna go ahead and jump into the right away. We talked earlier about the origin of life on earth. Men still, Colonel Wishy Washy were still not sure exactly how it happened, but there's that

theory with that horrible name which already mentioned on her part gas hands Berea yet which would mean that if, if it were true it would mean that we were the alien life for right that life here life. Was the alien life form that to go with our virus analogy that if you picture earth as just a single celled organisms right with everything that a virus needs to survive. Then somehow or a meteor. Ah, we washed out into earthen. And just started replicating and now where t me over you know investing the hosts organic life while that, Sir, That's intense men! For me, that's of ETA, hugely compelling argument for how life came about. I know it's

It's a little talk because you have to assume that life existed somewhere else. Yeah northern words get here, it's gonna kick in the can down. The road is not exactly just exactly so: it's not it's not exactly answering our our stuff, but it all goes back to the idea of life, as we know it, based on DNA based on RNA. What else could be out there? Could there be some other thing that does? use. Any of that. You know it's a possibility and that's the great thing about thirty with we allowed ourselves to think differently through this search, and I think I've man than I gotta tell you. I think we're gonna find some really soon. With with the new telescopes width, I think we're gonna lease find the trace

of life, it's gonna be microbial sauna, be tiny microorganisms, but it's gonna, be there. There's another fastening idea that I heard the conspiratorial idea, which was that for ideological or religious reasons, people in government and in the executive levels, different scientific institutes, We are cooperating to destroy evidence of alien life microbial stuff up so that it wouldn t shake the foundations of world religions it sometimes for Christianity, primarily for Christianity was very interesting theory. I didn't find too much to back it up but one thing that I read specifically with citing the the methodology.

Of testing soil rely for testing dirt on Mars, the moon there's a there's, a method that the rovers used to shake up the we talked about this right, narrated life on Mars, and yet they he up. ample and incinerate it essentially and then analyze the gases. So if there was something in there, they were. It would show up in the different gases right and organised, but when it does not carbon based in There are a couple of your couple different different ideas with that that was an inch. In theory to me, and I would I would love to learn. If there were no is, is it possible that some sort of alien trafficker, alien culture interacted with earth at some point history, its possible it's difficult to see

what could be plausible, given the time and distance involved without going into some sort of extra dimensional idea right yeah, I want to believe that stuff. You know that yeah everybody listening knows. I want to believe absolutely Fox moulder over here. I hope you do that I think it's important. If the sea, inspiration and the imagination. The earlier going absolutely first of if we didn't want to figure out what's going on, we didn't want to believe things in their work. No progress as a species are what. Why would even look into it and also clearly the leave me most implausible thing at all in this tire conversation the most unreason, impossible thing is that there would not be other intelligent life somewhere in the universe. Given that there is

infinite size, that's the most ridiculous. that is literally the most ridiculous thing to think. Thank you doctor. Rick, her yeah yeah. I thank you for the Drake Equation Guide. for us to go. We didn't even get to the shadow biosphere, which I think we should talk about in the future. I will all right, we have to a very good idea really quickly. I just want to read this piece of listener. Mail is comes from Charles, be he says hello. I saw the video about aliens in Dore, say New Mexico near sorry about that My fault guys blame it on me. It's my fault others uses over me. Mexico and I'm a lifeline resident ever since I was in grade school, don't say, is always been associated with aliens like Roswell New Mexico is this growing up and now in adulthood. The people in New Mexico, they have an inside joke for dual say, and that is dossier.

where the government kept all the aliens all towns in Northern Mexico, even though there are very whirl and the management majority of these towns have only one high school they can. It gives. idea how small they might be. I also says that many people in northern in the northern part of New Mexico is still speak Spanish and are very close to one another people in their families. Don't stable, far away from their homes and communities in northern Iraq scope in a town like those these very common to find two or three generations of intermediate and extended families living together and in small commute he's, so odds are finding people that may have personal insight on this alien matter might not be too difficult, in the video you spoke about. The alleged security guard Thomas Castello, and how their might confusion about the spelling of his name: either Theo S r C s, and what Charles here suggests is that

it may actually be Castillo US spanish version of it, and he also says later on that it might not be Thomas, it might be Tomas. However, I kind of looked into it. And found out that it is actually the alleged person is too Miss Edwin, cuss Castelo ok? So I just wanted to let you know. Finally, thank you, Charlie for right again. Let us hear nothing gets interesting insight, but we did a little more digging and we found out that it is Thomas Edwin Castello and we are going to keep it, we hope that you enjoy this episode and we'd like to hear what we should cover in upcoming episodes. There are a couple ways to find us we're all over the internet.

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