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we talking about something completely different, because
as you know, as we said, spoiler alert net and
no- and I have a few irons in in the fire- would guess who schemes cooking and as
we have been checking out somewhere classic
pursued a moving into a new channel, and this week we did something
that I really enjoyed at the time
and ass. I still am fascinated by it. Yes,
arctic Energy, the Herodotus machine, yeah man.
it's a cool idea. In any time we talk about free energy or somehow harnessing energy that just exists right in
this star wars, middle chlorine, world
that we live in a very real, like radio or going, I won't add, phaetons because tax
Finally, again spoiler alert, they are ghost, yes, we're its yeah
yeah. I guess you re in a
it has and what you know, perhaps one day will learn how to harness them without cause I may,
I really really worried by the other, harness the fetus inside each other. That's that's interesting. Well
now that we have once again flirted with
negation by the church. Scientology
look out of you release ones. I verily believe one time is in contracts, let's go
head and just like a quick recap of what this a lot
energy, as you said, it sort of an ambient thing, as was to be all around us, and it can be focused
through these devices Hieronymus Machines devices named after the guy who invented them put on quotas
when her optimism exactly fascinating character and
interesting story. He was a here
idolized by a sigh fi editor at the time back. You fifties forty six.
and if he did a somewhere in their match. Your daughter and this guy, I Campbell, took a step further
and said: not only do these machines work, but because
harnessing this unknown power and endless there's, unlike pointing to my forehead, legged, crazy personnel. I assume its
no sooner, was a cyanic powers,
sort of psychic ability and so
Campbell argued that you didn't have to build the device you could just
raw schematic of the diagram right here I would have the same effect and you could place things objects
in certain areas of this diagram. Yolanda peaceably
for that. You ve drawn out, and you could sum
ah harness through that object,
like a memory, Europe
all kinds of things. You can do with this device with a piece of paper and the diagram, and you know what
your mind. Yes, you have how you're my screen being your own thing.
The primary mover, the engineer
Promise himself objected to this in and, although we thought Campbell,
Heart was in the right places. Intentions were good, yadda, yadda yadda. He believed that this guide actually set back
science, radio, annexed by a century or more, because the way that he built these devices is you.
Take a substance of some sort of sample new put in single tree receiving area. Then you would be a
to be able to effect that by
modifying or I guess, harvesting, collecting and and focusing this radiometer
energy, which is not proven, certainly not proven yeah. I
I don't think it is out of the realm of possibilities, especially you know, as were starting to tackle what we're going to tackle
this episode right yeah there might be something there, but
for now we re in no way can prove that nobody can, I understand,
and in a yearly it is quite possible that we have
to encounter all the forms of energy affecting the the reality in which we live. You be
He tremendously arrogant to say that we have
figured it all out either we are still in what future historians will likely call the dark ages, but point being like Hieronymus one interesting thing I can't ever made into the video which issue
if you have watched it yeah it's does deserve.
Well, he has mentioned earlier recycler setting
the science a hundred years you suddenly, he says they did.
is, the thing though there is, is that those diagrams worked when Campbell did than they actually were Harare, Miss Machines, because the gazed India Ink
which surrounded the said was conductive. While
I can hear the more sceptical people in our eye in our audience, dowagers as their eyebrows raise in their eyes rule one of them.
Made it into the studio, but do check it.
in this scatters thinking this concept
logic energy got his thinking is something that you and I have looked at several times before, like free
energy or suppression of energy or Archie,
We suppression of technology,
alternative energies, zero point energy, all these different propositions that we hear
Lord, it and vilified and
mostly most often
It is not accepted by me,
stream. Science. Today were
to talk about the newest version of that are bubble
we get there. We have to ask a question. I asked ass. You
she ended. Its actual one Amar are bought by his favorite question.
Ok, so are bosses
a guy named Jason he's our seas you're. One of the questions you ask people is: what's your
Red STAR Wars or STAR Trek or do happen, I've
think I have addressed this before on the show maiden and
It is our track. However, I did just get back from the STAR Wars Convention and I was starting to turned a little bit.
star wars, starting to turn Edward STAR Wars, just because of when you're around that kind of phantom. I think it's it's a bit infectious and
you and your assembly like Holly FRY who is one of them.
One of the issues- and ever here, I believe, is the editor- is when the host of stuffy business class shoes with
and she is such an avid fan that I was man. I was getting pulled that direction, but for me this
science of STAR Trek, the it's a bit
I would say a little harder on the science in that it sticks a little bit closer,
do the known physics,
Although it does extrapolate a whole bunch to get things like the warp drive,
yes,
but it's you know is its trying to be as in line with it as possible and also the Social Sciences Aspect of STAR Trek, I think, is stronger. I add the at the post in
real society is any argument in the there's a missile
it is, of course the STAR wars right, oh yeah and analyze. I think I
have not made a call on either of those overthrown, smart idea, just wait.
Why only I make it so much hate, firstly, that I'm sorry star wars, fans, I do love star wars, not the same.
I love you star wars, but I'm in love with STAR Trek exactly. I beg the nail on the head here, man, because if we talk
about STAR Trek, we're talking about the warp drive
and in white, like Buddhism Warp drive more easily,
it's an engine for a spacecraft,
that would allow the travel allow the crew
after the inhabitants, everything inside it to travel faster than light.
So everyone, the rest of the world, with its two hundred nine nine million. Seven hundred. Ninety two thousand four hundred and fifty eight metres per second, yet it seems
That seems like you might be dangerous for the whole of a ship. I'm just saying wealthy
you're a mean it's it's tough in its a theoretical engine by it, we its tasks
wise humanity, since we solidified the underlying laws of physics- and that's that's part of the problem with the warp drive right, yeah, it's something that we give the dream, divides and land
right and the the thought of being able to achieve that man
I think it's driven a lot of people in the field right now in the fields of physics like the that kind of dream yet and even
for we really had codified,
what would become the laws. Modern physics, as we understand them today in twenty fifteen
when there were numerous p
both were.
A building religions based off stuff singing in the Heavens, writing stories about going there staring into the sky, inventing different
Means of trying to discern what was happening, our nearest celestial neighbours, but the way we get there
as always, or off has in
every single case eluded us
release, everytime unmanned exploration here. That's that's one of the big deals, but the law.
the physics have been around for a long time. Philosophers knew about these other people explored and, due to these slow, steady grind of history, we don't we year, we can't say
with certitude who
actually discovered these things first, because maybe a record of them doesn't remain here, but what we can say is that the credit for
the codification and like the laws of motion, goes to a guy named Isaac Newton for them
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the first one that hopefully you remember these from school, guys ivy,
we do
first laws that every object object will remain at rest or in uniform motion in a straight line unless it is compelled to change its state for
the actions of some internal forces, it's gonna, keep going where it's going, we're staying were staying unless something
comes in and knocks it
Second law concerns how the velocity of an object changes when it subjected to an external force, so
slows down, speeds up the scan things on the third law. This is probably the most famous law,
Is that for every action there is in
equal in opposite reaction and that's no?
The idea of when a ball hits another ball that have roughly the same mass we're going to see the ball they give it move.
in the opposite direction at the ball of which hit it. Yes right exactly and these these laws so far have not been
This proven right, no, not yet not yet, and it
hey to say it's ok to add not yet on there, because we could
elsewhere probably never will be displeasure. I think I think it's best to hedge our beds and say
they haven't been disproving yet, as far as we know at least on earth, we are like a reprieve.
Sure. That's those are the rules guys, but we are faced with again the relative impossibility of a warp drive, or at least the appearance,
impossibility pails in comparison to the benefit that this kind of technology could give us a me. Imagine, though, cave for the STAR Trek fans,
they are an for the star wars, vans? Just imagine
every time you saw one of those long pans of the inky blackening the tiny pin bricks of stars right. This is
duration of the sheer past
We know about the size of the universe, not,
the spacing between heavenly objects means that human beings, not
travel to another star within a person's lifetime,
not with our current technology. Right again, if you think about it, we're still, let's build crass about it, we're still lake
taking the liquefied remains of dinosaurs and ex. Maybe
M explode to power
space travel die if oil is actually made out of dinosaurs, then well
The majority of oil is not made out of dinosaurs nobody'd. That's that's crazy point. That's
that's the way we are still getting out of our atmosphere. Yet
to work near orthe near earth orbit.
new, nor or sending even rovers into
to Mars wait I saw this gives
a few options than for any
intrepid human beings or groups wishing to travel beyond the stars because they got swept up in that Carl Sagan.
be travel. Ok, so I've got the first often own over. It's really an option. I guess it is an option. Just give up. Just give
Will it down just you know, go back, watch and observe daredevil and that's it we'll know o or fix problems that exist on earth. Oh, no, that's interesting! So it's not it's! Maybe it's! Maybe it's reprisal private
utilization. Ok, that's an
interesting idea.
I think
probably a bad one birthday. What what else can we do? Oh this is exciting. We could try to build
ganz you and gigantic arts and put a little p
the earth in their human beings, animals plants have
biome, that's slow
Lee crawling through the ink towards
alien destination over like millions of years, while I entire civilizations and species rise and fall like a starship
kind of single emblem Miniature version YAP the
Would you, when you envision this to envision a spiritual thing,
pretty envision like enterprise type thing, with their Scott, all the loosely ashore
just got the interior of earth.
Vision, inevitable breakdown, ha ha ha,
yeah
No, I don't think we can do it, I'm pretty skeptical, maybe it's just a giant
Jim, but there are there so many problems that we have not thought of. You do like what happens to you a what happens
you, a woman who has has a child, may contain
the child bears. It did
in space and repeat that over
how many generally, how are you speaking, oven and evolution of what a human would become? In fact, our environment well
you know over over that
the time it might be likely that certain treats would select for evolution in? I guess it also depends on how many people are there, yet what kind of gene pool reduction, but I was I was just talking about the ability to
revive and reproduce successfully got you, because what happens for the first generation of children growing up in space?
will, there
their lynn, their Linz right will probably not be as an open. Some sort of continue.
a functioning gravity right
Who knows, if they'll be able
we produce a man. So that's it
when we clearly not perfect, ok, clearly, not perfect, or I will is there any other thing we could do well, he
is here, is, I think, our best and closest option? What's that.
Just let to devise a different way to travel through space,
right and also us also a different way to get two space. Yes,
Rio to outer space to escape earth scrambling. So
so what's all this that we ve been hearing for the past? What year three about people
discovering a new kind of warp drive. Won't you know we ve talked about the.
Some of the possibilities of plasma engine there's been a lot of stories that you'll find on online about different ideas
as for how to propel a ship once you're once you're in space and that's where,
most recent one comes in the M drive and
Thing is
fascinating and the least it's a prototype rocket is it. You know
Is it the real life warp drive? Maybe at least that's the way
being described
This gentleman named Roger
sure, you're the sugar and
here's the thing he claims is engine generates thrust by balancing microwaves around inside this enclosed metal funnel and
There's no mass or energy emerge
from the engine he claims
that this thing can propel itself, just through
just through bouncing microwaves around inside this thing and innovate?
true this would violate
some fundamental laws of physics, yeah, specifically
The third one can
newtons break out single on his p of laws of motion, which was that the third law,
action in reaction.
to a gentleman in Brian COBRA, clean coal, relying who isn't astrophysicist at interview by space dot com that that's one of the primary problems. With this
what show you the scientists, Shire saying is that he is creating propulsion with
A propellant, a car
are without gas right. Yes, there's still
It would still be energy expended right cause you if you wanna, do shoot microwaves into
thing. You're gonna have to power whatever's firing. The microwaves
Georgia, but they're saying that the thrust they're getting when none exist should be there and there's nothing there.
a reaction to the action. I guess I saw people of attempted several test of this device
done mitten listeners. You ve probably heard the
the headlines read something about NASA testing it right yeah? What kind of NASA? I guess
I notice late, because we know necessary.
some organization, all kinds of different moving parts, different parts of NASA all these departed,
but one of the departments is Taiwan, it called Eagle works and the staff is about five scientists.
Who test all kinds of unorthodox pieces of technology proportion methods. I tell them
Doktor Harold, Sunny White yet, and this
published a paper with this drop dead. Sexy title here goes anomalous thrust production from an
F tests device measured on a low thrust. Torsion pendulum, though
again hot in here
So here this was back in twenty fourteen and
detailed experiments. They were conducted over a series of eight days in August of twenty thirteen. Now here's the question.
What's the anomaly that's occurring here well, according to the reports these
and by the way there are more than one there's more than one m drive. They appear to work
some small level so under testing
they generated anywhere from fifty to seventy micro. Newtons of I guess energy as
pressure Ethan Steagall knows this: is
than the weight of a snowflake with
doesnt seem very substantial to me, a guy sitting in a room in Atlanta Georgia that doesnt know much at all about physics. You also here,
You also here that in these test, fifty to seventy one
grew. Newton's is
small enough that it might not clear the rate of error in measuring. Ah ha
so who hears than here's the thing, even if it
that miniscule. Perhaps it is
just an error and testing, but if it's not the
seem to be a guy
getting this energy from nothing, no fuel right
the idea that will send quite a few physicists into a livid huh
you have every time you hear it. This is not the first time someone invented and am DR or something
China female scientists name, while one young. I believe I mispronouncing that I am sorry doctor. I should
a team of folks and cleanly
done it in two thousand and twelve
they were. If you look at their papers, is free technical, but they
also. They were also measuring temperature as well
a guy named Guido Feta claims to
have invented one too, he called it. They can catch
DR, and this is the one that NASA Eagle Works, tested, there's a difficulty here, because the groups I did not wish
the same consistent results and did
We agree why it happening
and no one knows what's happening,
and a lot of people a lot of a lot of people.
Coming out of the woodwork to say you know this is utter. Bunk
in its strange, sometimes because again with you
has to be rigorous when measuring these sorts of things have a decent man methodology. We also find like a lot of character, attacks
where people are people are saying,
People are making the assumption that someone is automatically misleading the public, which
I think his done. I think it's it's funny, but I don't think it's professional
Absolutely it's that something that happens when let's say the EU, the bones of physics are being challenged.
Right? Because everyone in that field knows physics, and they know that this is the law, and this is how it works, and when someone comes along and says will perhaps
that's not how it works right, that's very dangerous to most of the establishment, I would say, but
the great thing about science, is that the there
understanding that change must occur or it
some. If new information comes in that is valid, then the whole system can integrate that right. Yeah yeah, that's a great point and the more extraordinary claim is the more extraordinary the evidence should be supporting it.
what a lot of people that that's? What
A lot of you would argue right: foot silver,
for something like this ban. It would need a lot of money to be basically injected in so that there could be vigorous testing of some device like this to them
where you can either outright prove that this is
happening or not, but it see
as though I mean it's kind of on the fringe of this little small driven NASA. That's being test this testing sure, because you
we want to spend a whole lot of money on something that is probably nothing right. Well, there
let's keep in mind that NASA Eagle works. Their task is to investigate these things that
Have enormous risk in terms of cost wasted, money and Peter
surely there can.
they're playing a lottery in r and d lottery could potentially there there could be some huge benefit, but the
school had moved to arms from pros and cons about there. So we said the sky
takes have massive problems with this? Wouldn't what are some of the cards
One is fairly obvious. Why are the result of testing these M drives consistent if they, if you're using
technology that is emerging like this, and you have you locked down the variables, then you should get the same result every time or very similar results. Yet and then we,
also note had through his saying, of course, are the basis of the scientists skewing the test
a peace on Forbes about the M drive by Siegel. I think the guy we mentioned earlier and in that you can tell it reads as though Siegel this professors. Yours just had it
up to and over here and down the street and up the road with with this thing
like an angry person, any makes him. He makes a very valid point stewardesses while they're the same results. How do we know that something else? Income embody also said: the guy
in charge of NASA Eagle works is no isn't it
the phrase users is notorious for his support of unorthodox ideas. That's crazy! That's exactly what that group needs,
and here's another thing we should at least think about
is there is a possibility that these tests were somehow compromised.
Yeah we're because well
We need more, we say compromises. Was there some sort of intervening variable that was not found. Other ways like the first has that NASA Eagle Works did with
fetters engine. I believe they they tested it. But they didn't tested in a vacuum.
People respond by saying. Well, of course, you appear
Something is happening. It was somehow receiving some input from
the surrounding environment. They responded by testing it in a vacuum, but NASA who
I feel bad for man, because you know NASA has to dodge these.
Overly height science journalists unsure constantly he s with the boys. We titles right right,
nurse reporters hate. The shuttle find out. Why haha,
they were. They were quick to sail this war.
Innovation is not researching a warp drive. That was the headline. Yes, but that's not the
only other condors, there's another big car right, oh yeah, this
Sweden in no way be a warp drive, it might get people
to the moon in a few hours worked. Let's say
but you're, not gonna breach the kind of speeds that you need to go warp speed faster than the speed of light right.
Yeah. That's not gonna happen. You will be able to go to PLUTO, let's say just
go out in argue at it that it is.
Or is not a planet and then get back seemed a year, and this this has been eyes. It can
disappointing to a lot of people treat this headline about Warp drive, but it's not. It wouldn't be warp drive the way that starch, like is warp, drive,
no you're not going to some infinite velocity and at this point,
even if humanity did possess some kind of engine or thing that was capable of this sort of propulsion or we do not have them.
Cereal sides to build anything that can withstand
yeah. How do you mean? How do you move anything else with that, DR? How does the drive even go that fast? Now we would just be shooting in engine by itself and the space and they
you can't. Maybe we find it from an ailing civilization and maybe
He couldn't build anything decade, the use this as an engine, so maybe
the entire story of civilization in this galaxy
for shooting around this engine because everything we built around it falls apart. Guess what do I think it's time to write a short
that's a pretty good idea is that war
we'll see was ever worked I'll wash but their prose. I know it sounds very negative right now, but there are prose their meal
I'll be something occurring here, because these three grew
testing the seem pretty
The same device have found, something
right, or they say they found some. There appears to be something in. Perhaps we dont use this device exactly how its built. Now, perhaps you know like we set practice, nothing in we can just
throw it in the trash and forget about it. Choice of the people
venting it can move on something else, but if there is something
here? We could use that as a starting point right and this. This concept of people accidently discovering the warp drive, sounds, sounds pretty cool right by the way, I think we would end up with
is finding a small
well discrepancy, a glitch in the matrix at all
a big things start right now we see that water sends to bend light. We see these tiny things in the world around us and if we can just obsessed
over them enough and ask the right questions, then eventually
we can arrive at
amazing realizations and in theirs there's something
firing in that. But, let's be honest, and I know of,
Michel, but let's be honest, that a huge pain in the ass a lot of time and is a lot of money and we'd like to know what you guys think about it
I would like to hear some more technical
information about this, then we are at
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we all know that our phone and emails and tax are being watched by the powers that run our lives and dictate what we can or cannot do or have all for the security of
corporation, we live in, or maybe it's just for the security
the elite that runs the corporation we live in here. That sounds more like it. I like this Marty guy, he's interesting anyway, just something
Think about keep up the good work as long as the powers that be allow you to do so
Yo Marty. I think that's very good point, because
This is something that we talked about up before and met. You know this is a huge issue.
so box for me. What what are you have? I don't wanna well, I will just say that I have not agreed in my television for a long time since, since smart tvs have been around, I've got tape on my phone.
Facing camera on my phone.
I'm terrified about my vehicle being made in two thousand, for which is, I think, right around the the Pope pass the cut off date for
in your car can be hacked easily.
so yeah. I live alive in the skies world. I understand what Marty say, unlike its
scary, how much surveillance occurs on each human being at all times, you dig
this. Is your car? Can your car specifically there, I think, could only
really be hacked. If someone had direct
access here you see you they'd have to plug in. Yes, it's in the weird middle ground, yeah with easy. You can be hacked, but yeah. You can't like the new Mercedes you couldn't somehow remotely get into
computer. I hope the way to check out the suffered death can write that find that out, and we ve done some episodes on
Again, your house of workers in general. We done swept so's. I car hacking here
is the huge issue is why this is such a
written frightening point Marty, because the did,
you'll, remember, maybe I don't know how old or young you are, but you you probably remember how for years, people would say-
This is paranoia. Who could possibly be that important, though, do
and that makes a little bit more sense before the age of before the curate. Honestly, because back dear
for instance, back during us
the civil rights era right when people
agitating for equal rights
since human beings- in the? U S, word doggedly pursued with wired.
being and with a letter tamper,
in and things like that that took concerted physical effort. But what happened?
turns out to be in the room next to the person having a meeting and literally tat through the wall right with MIKE
defined age at our feet on the ground, and even if you were in a headquarters you're still
like mailing people, stuff a mean making.
Calls on landline phones weight.
What I'm saying here is that we encounter
during a gift in a curse of sorts as it as a species in the
Egypt in the computer age. The cost of
information
what's measure that by a money,
makes you to send a message somewhere or the time it takes for that message to travel both of those reduced,
Now
it is now cheaper to talk to anyone. Then it has
ever been before, and maybe ever will be again, but with that means it's cheaper to it's easier to maybe they'll be a better way. It's easier to collect more stuff. You don't have to wait and interest.
Physical mail. You just
if ever shunned it a room in a cell phone, earn eyes provider rightly up, and that in that shunned goes directly to
action, warehouse somewhere and it's just hoarding
people might not ever look at information. Hoarders yeah. I wouldn't,
see, there's lay one episode and then we would cancel. But with this this thing is it's not as its nodded
crazy. As such
new people one wanted it to Sally Ann and Marty, you might, I think you might enjoy how many of them
people who said this was
here, are some bizarre row, distill being
fantasy,
now have all the sudden switched so quickly to say. Oh, you will ever knew that worries yeah you when you were the one saying I was crazy, but that's just hear that occur
dinner, dissonance right sure. People are very good people
good curators of their memories, especially the times when they they
which they had done something different. But but
We see this happening in video game councils. I think it's an actual question about cars because
monitoring for cars is going doing.
He's at a faster pace than mania
things, partly because it's going to catch up to current technology impartially, because
There is a need to push
bored autonomous cars means they connect Leap frog over a lot of earlier surveillance technology partially for insurance purposes.
Did you see that article than men
we may be? You saw to that? There is an article about Google's driverless cars and the number of accidents that they ve been involved in three
when I was eleven, I think out of one point, seven million miles travelled
and I dont know. If I'm completely correct what I ve. I believe that one million of those miles approximately were done completely driverless and think seven of the accidents happen during that time, but it now
were ever. Was it the autonomous Tars fault knows person yes
wisely. Another driver on the road- I know at least three times was of the law.
Is that all states that allow for autonomous testing like this they just to be clear? They do
you'll have to have a driver engineer in the car. Yes driver's seat there, just not driving, ideally- and I guess seven times they tried homer
I'm kidding, I hope everybody bite, but yeah you're, right Marty and enough get a question for you like to hear back from you on this. Do you think they will be avenged
the illegal to try
the car manually,
and, if so, when, wow
or will it ever be illegal to have
camera on whatever device
working on like your computer television,
it overturned I'll, never be illegal for not having on legal fine.
if you close your eyes right, black mirror reference, or it will do no more letter, because I apparently I'm gonna monologues ice
Jimmy from allay rights to us and says, hey, been Matt things for the outstanding work. Let's addressed
need helm. Fifteen. As a former soldier joint operation, training was common, usually conduct
every six months. The reason
the train was yet multiple units to communicate a maneuver effectively during tactical operations. When I was overseas in the early days of operation, rocky freedom I witnessed unit accidentally should each other moved to unfortified positions under the command of bright brigade commanders.
The results were disasters by the loss of american and iraqi lives. They training was supposed to quell officers egos into work in unison, while many officers, lieutenant colonels in pearls were shocking
the generals promotion you orders,
he's promotion. Crazed officers was getting many soldiers killed by aggressive operations and lack of cooperative plain between the units in the quest for advancing
Reza Maize, how the paranoia, in my opinion,
about, eight helmer was caused by the Texas.
Government giving validation to the right wing conspiracy, theorist accusations in the dispatch of the National Guard, a waste of taxpayers money.
again thinks we should keep up the good work best regards Jimmy from allay any as up he S. Question too, says is the new format for the new year to make less traditional
there's more logs and podcast.
Oh ok! Well
familiar reader address, eight Howard. So that's really interesting.
That insight like we're saying at the top of the show, we're getting all kinds of insights from different different perspectives. That
is something I've never thought about before the internal.
Canada is asian here: the competition amongst military members, whom you I I can
we get this too. We know that there is a huge
sassy for these kinds of things. Oh, but I dont know if a lot of people think about what would happen if you just had up
early trained military, just dropped off and some place given
Hank given some years more armoured vehicles and saying always seek this city, we ve seen some examples of that with different groups:
I don't know what you'd label them either label them. Insurgents are freedom fighters depending on which side around but small
small armies
that are made up of people who are just fighting in would see their hometown in their home state liking,
everywhere lay all over them.
See a more and more. Unfortunately, where are you?
Have people with weaponry that perhaps are not dreamed without weaponry, Elsie accidents or were you know, an army,
He goes off
in the wrong way round the fire or have we ve just been hearing more about it then also Jimmy.
I am on the same page with you at least about the cause of the paranoia,
regarding J home. Again, I don't know, what's going to happen like I don't know what kind of exercises are going to be conducted in what the effect is gonna be on the local population right one of you
I've somewhere roads are closed or something, but I
you see. I do see point here to respond to with the Texas National Guard. That's what as her Jimmy
mentioning in his letter, if you recall
nor videos near audio about eight how we talked about the the
relative autonomy of their taxes,
was very force, is right and the National Guard being called in
Some people feel that the state level governance
taxes did not trust the federal level governance of the? U S, but then I think you're somebody
who it was either on Youtube or emailed, also written in and said with this
part of the normal reserve operation there there mobilize to be on reserve the same way they
the if something was actually going down. So I'm
I'm not sure which a measure which is why I'd love to hear from somewhere
sit on that and now I've got a toss. The question to you regarding the question about Lester
national videos, more logs, cetera, ok, yeah
so our show has been evolving ever since its come out very different from our first year,
or absurd earlier anything, it's always a work.
Progress, oh yeah, sure an inn
We are trying to make improvements. That's really overdoing were listening to feed back we're gonna sing what works and what does an hour on our end, and you know I think, we're coming up with a a
our version of our show right now. Yet we are also we waste
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We are not going to do as an old. They
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we think it works better when it's kind of told a story,
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We appreciate the support as we move forward. I think you know the first. The first couple blogs you did were well intentioned, but
We'll see, as far as you know, we are learning men what we do and we're still learning, and hopefully we
learning stuff that is worthwhile, for this show this
we talked about another current events which we're gonna have to come to.
Can check on when we hear some the fight
Oh verdicts about the e M drive. It might disappear from the news for a few years. The way it did in twenty twelve, when the chinese team first reported it I buy, it might turn out to be
of Hathaway stars were origin.
a very simple variable:
that we missed, but I'll tell you one thing that so far
this leads me about all this stuff man.
I am one of those suckers for that Sagan speech, I'm totally on board about going
To the stars, I will
sign up and you I knew Mars. The moors one thing was: probably gonna be a scam, but that I apply yeah. I did.
and I thought it was very awkward conversation to have only
family or dating partners to say oh
What are you doing? I'm signing up for a one way trip to space
oh all right- will then I'll Justino make dinner. That's fine right! Yeah! I guess
mom's by myself, but
yeah. I think it is an important thing for humanity to do. I don't know
in our lifetimes revenue, even
we a colony on the moon, but I keeper-
sharp eye on anything that might further that goal.
What about you man? What do you think about this whole engine? I am hopeful dummy.
this this engine- I don't, I don't think much as we can
Maybe I am hopeful, though, that either the sum of the plasma proportions,
or some other system, including perhaps
The space elevator are going to
work in combination to get us to a point where we can. You know turning
into a death star.
hopefully alive, I dont know work. Would it doesnt, George Lucas own the rights, the phrase, death death
star, oh no,
you're, gonna be fed! Nor sorry! Yes, let's hope the? U N resolutions hold in the moon belongs to the people, but as
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Would you take a one way trip to space?
or to word to live on a different planet. I thought I was gonna be here
let us have an option
or more say here that in one way like how long I want to have to go for four
yeah one way: what what? What would the amenities be like there
there will be like us, a town, and there will be people there who have been slightly based on, like you, they're they're attractiveness,
the only store is hot topic, though
boy. You're you're vacant, ok, see here's the thing I would
totally take away wage Europe in his face right now and now I dont think you would rather slowly not right, so I think we're both tried to sway you too,
yes, I would need more information. You not in the sense that if you were the first person on the planet,
You got the land and sea that thing that would be later there be a statue of you had a selfie stick with it,
stick era, a space selfie, stick, I'm gonna say no, I'm like I'm gonna go with no, I respected
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I discovered an alien floating.
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they think man, somebody wrapped up all this space dirt
It is, though, arose in body the frozen carcass yeah
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