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this is serendipitous for us. We recently Dover into a question. That's on a lot of people's minds. Why do see egos makes so money, and we absolutely had. return to some of our past work. We can always talked about the middle class, whether it's going extinct but we also wanted to bring this one back up this is our episode on the future of poverty. Degage. Remember this one: oh yeah and women recorded this in twenty fifteen. We were fifteen years away from the World Bank's prediction that hundred million people would be put into poverty because of a change in our world, eight years away now old eyes, Tiktok tactic, tucked tactic, tat lets us job endless, find out what the World Bank talking about and if there's any sand to it and what lies ahead for all of us

supposed to go. Stand government cover ups. History is riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or learn stuff. They don't want you to know hello. Welcome the show my name is met and thin, and as always, we are here with cash. Northern nickname got so long last time the pie tassel remember we have we had the thing where we would need trumpets and then we would need somebody out there was. There is going to be a minstrel carpet of some certain Ngos, often town Brown. I think we can dispense with the nicknames. If you want, I mean it's: ok, if you there's something comes up in a meaningful, but don't feel than to have to do it. well yeah, that's that's a weird psychological thing right. It's always fun to do something you don't have to do a kid,

genuine, moved along and then eventually had to move one. Oh yeah, that's me No! That's! Ok! Here you see what I'm saying you were talking about happiness it away so very interesting thing that happens with happiness? There's a there's. A comparative factor to happiness was very strange. If some you could have to people Why people I one is a guy making thirty Grand did you do it Every does give em a what you do lawnmower he's a lawn mower? one who most large law nor man, the eyes of the law. more man, and he makes there. Thousand dollars a year. If everybody Nelson is Owen. There's this other person. She makes fifty thou. Dollars year. What does she do? She makes part She made a lot of money taken. Thank has okay, so

this part castor, lady making fifty year and this law more guy making thirty, if all of the other people. The lawnmower company make like twenty five or even twenty eight thousand dollars. This guy is the king. Of the mountain he is thrilled to be alive. Things tastes we're how he found find out what everybody else makes. Let's say that, for the sake of it, but if the lady making fifty thousand dollars or the Pike Housing thing finds out that her co workers are making you fifty five thousand writer or fifty three, even then she is gonna, be miserable and unhappy in that's because for great deal of the human species. Happiness is so compare given that there are other studies about their other studies about whether money makes you happy whether really buys happiness. It turns out that that's true up to a certain point,

in the U S at least and then after that it doesn't matter as much. The way you're describing to me is I've always thought of a sort of like that grass is always greener kind of mentality, no sort of like you. Look at one of the people have keeping up with the Jones The Smiths, whenever numeric american last name like to use this analogy, and you know I'm guilty elevating definite. Have the leg? Is it's a good thing to keep in check? Keep yourself in check over because is very easy to like start coveted, what other people have when you realise that the end of the day it they would necessarily be happier if you had it. That's a girl, that's a great point because it comparative of works, a couple different ways: listeners you probably have had same experience that almost every kid has growing up in the west.

Where some more apparent or an authority figure says you will think of the people who have less than into, or someone says no. It could be worse to my mother used to say all the time and edges hated it. It can be worse, doesn't make anything it doesn't change. Anything it could be. Worse is just like. Also you shouldn't be upset about these horrible things. and in strange, is when we think about our unhappiness or problems in relation to the larger field of humanity. We have, however, such a disconnect. You know like we were talking mothers briefly affair, and I think you alluded To know of winter wonder what were the problems Oh yeah, oh we're just discussing problems that we are having in our daily lives right now,. My main one is that my kid groups on the occasionally grow settle like that turrible, but really that's one of us.

Biggest problems. Right now I mean that's messed up. That is messed up for me too, even though it may. your horrible. I think it's because maybe my mom Canna gave me some of the same things now she was doing it for any him bad reasons for really good reason and think about other people have empathy. Imagine yourself if you dont have all the things that you have now, but I did it definitely ways on me: pre heavily pooping nosey. I I think that my problems are are bad, sometimes right, and I really can a wallow in what I'm dealing with. But then, if I put myself out a little bit, ivory, just really are ridiculously great hey. I have yeah me, like I have a six year old daughter and the perfect way. To sum up, these like first row problems is to observe the behaviour of a six so she's constantly like store and she's like. I want that thing.

and why do you want it? So they will, because it looks cool and because I really I feel as though I need that deserve that I have to say: things like that. I never thought I would be there, but I am like this Why do you not worry about what you dont have in just think about what you do have impression that unless was go from, there met a mailing doesnt work of here in it and in lino me she's, not a super tantrum type game. She defiling. You know she's gas summer, some some wants. You gotta tell she get the thing you did. You know that I am not giving a no no he's really smart, though, and she's gonna villainy, One time she told me, I made a powerful enemy when I wouldn't give her a phantom, oh wow, that never happened. ok did make a powerful enemies we voted me yeah. I'm still kind of Did I don't wanna come away? all right now. I, the

Maybe what I'm in a better place to talk about emotionally by listeners? Jes, you just big, absolutely clear the thing that we're alluding to Doesn't matter in the grand scheme of problems we are today talking about something that related to an earlier pie. Castro did right into the future of inequality. Now he came back to do the future of poverty, and so first we have to ask ourselves nor what what is poverty, young people? We talked about how people us? Ok, full disclosure for everybody, the sleigh jump you just heard was an edit because off of AIR Matt, you convince me that, if everybody's Can I first of all a problem. I should talk about one too so difficult because I am furious knowing might have to edit parts of this cause I own over. You hold it in, so I think somebody stole some

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gonna get it you're gonna get to get back into the story tat. You ve been waiting for an notes Jain, but it such as do they problem do have euro, considering, where would they? I had This story already encountered so many things we already have right or to have a phone where's possible to call a post office right already have a phone where its will the call the people are supposed to be shipping, it all right He had a little bit extra scratch to get some graphic novels of all internet connection, an internet connection, not Amazon, Prime again, not dimension a shipping service that can send you think, oh yeah, totally your rights I was being very small I did and Brad Asian and stupid and spoiled. We talked about penal hard on yourself, but above all we talked about real problems. Before we talked about the future of inequality and improved

his podcast that you should check out. You don't have to listen to it to understand talking about today, but it will help sort of pink the picture. So people spend a lot of time asking how much money a person needs to live right. You ve seen as rumour shoals voicing the commercials, feels for a dollar a day right, and this leads us to ask what is poverty was part. How is it defined whose defining it creates general? I guess we basically have understanding a power of authority as bites. an terms its state of being poor, not seen adequate resources, whether in terms of money or basic needs that need to be men, such as food, water, shelter, medical services, yeah yeah, that's a cohesive, because this doesn't one person's poor is another person's wealth or another person

pension right. I guess it's it's a wildly different across the world. We are one of the hardest thing we found in researching this is its therein. Petitions that are global that are trying to kind of say what. If we look at, poverty globally. What does it look like and then you're having to go down to each separate country, each separate region in each country and say well? What is poverty mean here and in trying to put say a dollar amount like the? U N, does

where are the World Bank tries to put a dollar amount a day for how much a person must make or must not make to be considered poor or not right? Yeah, because they're they're degrees of poverty is well, what we are talking about, specifically will be extreme. Poverty in this is measured, as you said, met in absolute terms, mean people living on less than a dollar a day I used to be a dollar twenty five day then went up to a dollar ninety cents a day at the world. bank, uses as a benchmark for these poverty statistics and the estimates of this very widely. But, ladies and gentlemen, we are happy to say there is good news, at least at the beginning of this witches. Over time. The part per cent of the population with extreme poverty has been in decline,

yeah, that's right! I want to be one of the big numbers we're looking. I was that in nineteen eighty one, according to the World Bank, there were, I think, forty four percent of human beings and the global population were considered to be below. The poverty line, then in nineteen. Ninety, it was thirty. Seven percent, then jump all the way up to two thousand twelve and we are currently at twelve point, seven percent, but even that's declining, that's! Yes, that's details are twelve and hopefully weird twenty fifteen. I think the most recent estimates Let's see that it did the fourteen percent in two thousand and fifteen. According to that is the Mdgs report, twenty fifteen summary, which is the United Nations Millennium development goals at their law summary from the last year that that was that we should prototype road

many development goals are phenomena jumped out. Well, yes, said about it, so the United Nations, on the at the suggestion of the then secretary at the time a blue was Kofi Annan. I decided that they would set forth these. Broad goals on one of those goals was the eradication of extreme poverty. I they ve met some of those benchmarks there and there still working on it. But what weird looking about now it like as we kick roundly statistics- is that if this were a game the rules of the game are changing, while The game is, while the game is up to you, oh yeah, so we see that I see the poverty doesn't necessarily mean the same, the same thing across the planet, but we also see that. despite all the wide misunderstanding and some of the key agendas are alleged

The agenda is that we will be discussing here, despite all the stuff and by the dwindling of extreme poverty, the the numbers are still, the numbers are still bad, not being the extreme poverty does not mean Europe in any way shape or form necessarily doing well, oh yeah, This means that you are not extremely impoverish assume. So, let's go you us from those factors. If we talk about the future of poverty, we talk also about the factors affecting poverty which are not necessarily what you might think. Ladies and gentlemen, we are talking about the big stuff right, one of the factors that I hadn't really thought about and how much affected would have on poverty globally is climate change and how

going to basically means gonna, make a lot more people more poor. If you think about rising sea levels, if you think about whether an catastrophes that are going to be occurring at higher and higher frequencies early stage are projected to take place at higher frequencies, good thing, too would affect like agrarian economies. Oh yeah droughts fire so they're all these things that are no at least according to the science being affected by global climate change, welders, yeah, that's a good point, there's a double whammy there as well look. I know that the ideas that the ideas

Gilead. Around environmental catastrophes are often politicized. So, let's just look at it from a geographical place years why I called a double wearing, because the areas of the world that are being affected most by these things are typically in developing regions of the world, which means that there is not much infrastructure. The states involved and the people affected don't have some of the same safeguards are safety nets, for instance, in Bangladesh, there's gonna be a lot of problems with flooding yeah there already a lot of problems and we kind of saw what there is to be done internally in Bangladesh and what kind of safeguards there are end I mean it's only going to get worse. You some Pacific nation, We are already worried about sinking through the water with in our lifetimes. This could create something that I think it is very strange

and I never thought this would happen so called climate refugees, where you have to e, where you currently live in order to either be at a higher elevation of you wear a place, a place where food is available. Rightly tearfully know if there's an agrarian economy and people depend upon that for sustenance and livelihood Then, when that land is on arable, then they have to go. They can't there's not another option. I'm just are quickly. civically. That study was saying that there are. There could be another one hundred million people who, I guess included, are added to the numbers of those who are extreme in extreme poverty in the next fifteen years, especially in Sub Saharan Africa and South Asia deserve the place that are most at risk. Right, yes, and with that continuing, I think we shall note: the future of inequality skyrocketing in certain parts of the world. Our

tree included on the list. But there's this? some other thing that maybe it will make for a different show in the future, but we should talk about it now, technology, you guys Times change here, other things. This occurred, a mere and technology to swing, tune and pr peace, a marketplace companies you- and I wish you could run groups- will be more specific about it, but they reference standard was really interested me that folks in lower income brackets are more likely to get into traffic accidents that can cause them serious health problems because they will necessarily have access to cars, The new safety features. So if you're not making as much money, you might be driving older car, you might let things lapses. As maintenance of that car- and you also might be in a car- doesn't have any the newer, like you know, a sensor they keep you to tell you when you're out of your lane or like a backup cameras, things like that to add to the safety of vehicles.

In so doing that, to try to figure out what the cellular and actually came upon this blog on the world Website that said, were huge factor, or at least they found it's a larger than you might think in poverty is automotive accidents and so a sort of ties him, because a large number of people can actually lose their jobs after serious car accidents for a number of reasons, whether its health and even one functions required to do their job anymore. Maybe they warn insured properly- and they are now daily and death, dealing with all kinds of biomedical bills and goes on, so it takes longer for victims of roads, just to find jobs, because the new now the criteria is very much more space, if they actually have some serious injuries. And then you know there is huge income, gas from victims of traffic crashes and non victim. So if, for example, you are at fault in a traffic, accidents, and then you don't have adequate insurance, a you.

totally relay because Liar House can spiral out of control enemy. I think that is definitely in the technology factor, maybe not in the way that you're going with it, but I think the definition of think about us interested, I think its eyes imperfectly, because it is something that we don't consider and it isn t the future poverty, because in some parts of the world you have to have some sort of transportation, you can have a car right in a cell phone and still be, dreamily poor, especially in a country where its necessity, doubtless things and the other thing goes on with technology here, who's, using automation, are we gonna get to a point where most of the job that are done by humans. Now, just don't need to. We don't need those people to work. You know it is.

very strange I was actually looking at Marshall Brains website for this who is the the founder of House, the works. I come the cipher which we work, he's our database yeah Finally, Mr Murphy Brain will he he writes about this stuff, a lot about automation and robotics in the future. What is gonna? Look like in the first thing that he says it that's going to be the first job, that's going to be driven out through automation, he says, are truck drivers, Why? Because he things get there going to be automated trucks just going all over the United States and delivering everything. Unfortunately, the does seem like that's one of the things. That is just a matter of time. and we know that self driving cars exist. You know in data testing that are pretty I'm good and you now you just turn-

I feel technology and put out a fleet move about, but the thing is that job of being a truck driver. That's actually a fairly. I mean it's not amazingly lucrative, but it's a pretty darn good, steady job that you can get. So a very kind of american job. If you think about it, I mean it's a very, like kind of grass roots kind of like in a working man, type job. Well, yeah, it's! So let's take these three large concepts and, let's port the worst hypothetical picture doesn't have the necessarily be in the states. But let's say a person or given the name in it. If I use your name accidently listeners, I promise it's not on purpose, as so, let's say SAM right, sure, SAM. So let's say that SAM grew up on a farm, same grows up on a farm and becomes a truck driver right,

and this is still people can drive their own tracks. I like SAM's that doing so. Well, Cosette paying that well right and he can't afford the insurance see the extra price you have two pages since private life do you have a manually driven car which is gonna be more expensive, and that also means that he's at fault. If an accident occurs, some accident occurs and he can't he get back into the tracking industry, because he has at one striking trucks increasingly automated. They dont need he's in. Henry situation. They don't need a human driver, so it goes back to childhood farm. But that's not there because, like the desertification as occurred or whatever in the land as eroded, it's no longer arable and then, in this disturbing in future, our boy, SAM into joining

millions of other people who have no job. There's no plausible employ them we was live in the sounds like such a fi story like black Mere, but we will live in a place where the only people with power people jobs or the people on the machines in repair them. That's one reason the black near so excellent, because its incredibly prescience in that way, like I mean the scenarios that it when it depicts, are based on this- very real problems and very real technological situations that are reaching critical mass and that could eventually led to some disturbing in Canada situation. And were used described. That is interesting to me, because I think this is like like a one day, there are truck drivers.

And one day there are no more truck drivers, but you're right. It would be like a more gradual process or people would gradually. It would be more and more difficult young pay for the insurance and actually do it. The old way room sort of like with cabs and Neuber right now. Freeze him! That's that's a pretty good point disturbing point two so with, but think guys, not all hope is lost for salmon his countrymen because he lives in a place where yes, this, crumbling infrastructure. Maybe yes, there's a corrupt government, there's not enough employment to go around, but whatever friendly international agency dedicated entirely to the elimination of extreme poverty showed up and said: hey will help you out. Here's the safety net. Here's the safety net you wanted! Just pay is back in. Oh just a couple will give you some money. It's alone, no state

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So the World Bank is in international financial institution. What they do is they give loans to developing countries with the idea that they will increase the economic growth of that country, so this would be Stuffily building a dam, for instance, years alone, to build a project of great infrastructure rights, and these loans are attached often with conditions, These conditions are meant to better the economic state of the country so instance. Corruption is a big problem and allow developing countries and its big problem everywhere. But it's a big problem in developing countries, different types of corruption, different types, that's right and what the bank will do in order to combat that, for instance, would say well we're taking. We we need to privatized summit

you're industries, because right now their state run and corrupt, which is a euro, is unfortunately, common problem, so with their official goal being the reduction of poverty through this kind of capital, investment in capital programmes. They are, and they are a part of the United Nations there upon the World Bank group, which is part of the United Nations Development Group and they ve had some hits. They ve MRS they been accused at times are pursuing a free market ideology that flies in the face of results. So making the error of a lot of passionate motivated, smart people, which is to say- I know what will work and so do this because no the result, even I haven't done it before or even though I have done it. or in the exact same way, and it had a horrible result. I'm gonna do it again we're because it my work this time. My work

the same will in part of this too, to be completely fair, and these are huge problems. You know what I mean. This is not This is not something that any group could get right all the time we ignore trying on a global scale, to fix economies, meaning that that's I dont know if there are many more lofty goals besides getting humans tomorrow for our they met. Are they trying to fix the economy? Well, that's the quest there. Our people on, let's say the outskirts, who say no, there actually trying to perhaps destabilize certain areas of the world you go in and maybe gain a little more control, for global institution like the World Bank, the again it's on the fringes Can we circle back to our hypothetical farmer situate dragging on SAM, okay, so oh god,

Sam is one of the people affected and he's been displaced. Has trucker job is no more right is tracker. Job is no war, the farm sky coming back to the homestead, nothing, not therein, tumble weight, and so the World Bank comes in there are any roads their own disrepair there could be us central to make new farm land with some irrigation projects right. need money for that right. We need money for that and we need expertise. We, engineers, because a lot of the engineers have left the country for better paid jobs elsewhere there was a brain drain, so the World Bank comes in and says says, will would give you this. Islam will build this infrastructure projects and we will

May we will increase the gdp of the country where the gross domestic product, we will kick start the economic growth. This country will go from stagnating to develop again and one day who knows: maybe you can we sing of war. I don't know that no. The cleaner within the World Bank is at the benchmark, set a target. Well, Euro Singapore is a little authoritarian, but it's it's a pretty queen country. Apparently so here's where things start to go wrong. They say well. While we are building a stem this irrigation project. That's can bring this farm land back. I knew- SAM and all your neighbors after move get up.

wind. We need in this area to work right. I mean you gotta get out here. We can at least tell you out those that how we roll ideally, but what it SAM says. I don't wanna go then Samuel Beef or simply relocated. At least this happened before where where people are forced to get out and yet it can happen in any situation or a state can in many cases impose impose itself upon private property rights happens in estates. Sure yeah What you got eminent domain, a k, the reason that the roads can widening dear yard right so Here are some of the criticisms that people say including in these aren't all these are necessarily you typical, the other other anarchistic conspiracy, not one of the more ardent critics of the World Bank. Is

former chief economist Joseph Stiglitz, I thought you were gonna, say stolen his elsewhere Susan sorry. So this is your here. You'll hear people argue on both sides. You'll hear some people. I read a very interesting thing where a guy accuse the World Bank of being a socialist collectivist thing. I and then other criticisms, of course, more criticism with it being too far into like a NEO liberal idea of the free market economy. Right, though, that the invisible hand will guide people to civilization, but signalled said that the policies the bank implements happen too quickly and its refer to a shock therapy, but it's in the wrong it's in the wrong sequence and that the bank in the prize in June-

p over anything else. So if there's a higher gdp that doesn't necessarily when economy is good for a country it does necessarily mean. The economy is good for the people in that country, right and I am not arguing for any political thing. That's just a fact and so Stiglitz saying that. These two ideas should not be conflated he's saying. Is he saying there's a maybe a degree of honest error in the implementation of these policies, but than other people are saying no d? Ah, international that dialogue and the World Bank function as these tools of control, as a way to keep cheap other state. in subservient positions or even to practice resource extraction, and it strange because the eye

met in the eyes of the World Bank, cracked, something called the Washington consensus, which is where they decided that the World Bank would also institute these policies of privatisation. Deregulation, stuff, like that Stiglitz objects to it, then says that it hasn't. It hasn't, worked that it's more of a people wanting a nice idea to be true and maybe they're doing it, no way he for instance, says that the chilean success a lot of people were proponents of the washing and since I believe that Chile is a success story economically because of World Bank, I am of policy. Stiglitz, however, says that it's because they had state ownership of key industries, tickly its copper industry, so the state still and the resources are, of course, other people wildly disagree that that's why it happened. But that's the thing about the dismal science

economics, you know here, people can argue back and forth. I can see that argument where, if, if Julia owned, they owned the copper industry in their country, they could use money coming in from that to perhaps bolster certain parts of their economy right of help some things out internally, rather than having this giant loan from the World Bank that they're, having pay off anyway, so this goes back to an earlier thing we tighten up before to which was to banks run the world. Yes, yes, that Europe, You believe in this I see the strings everywhere. Man I think there is an undue influence, their bullets. He always seen in its difficult outside of apparently Iceland, it's difficult to regulate bacon industries, but also say that the World Bank, My opinion, in my opinion, the World Bank has hard working people in it.

just like any other industry in their trying they're trying to make the world a better place. But if we look at the future of poverty right- and we ask Us- why there is a larger concentration of poverty in certain places Sub Saharan Africa is actually. gaining more impoverished people, while the rest of the world is doing a little bit better and better and better, and so I'm wondering I am asking you guys and I'm asking you listening as well. Do you think that the World Bank is a tool? of some sort of over, our key thing right. We talked about. our video episode, we talk about different. There are two allege that the World Bank is on. going hand in hand with intelligence agencies like will build a dam for you,

they usually do better villain voice, be heard at the great like that I was gonna piggybacking on new resource material, It's a fascinating point were verging on here, however, because the World Bank has represent excuse me over a hundred and eighty countries. However, its controlled by a small amount of countries. The president, the World Bank. Traditionally has always been american. In the present. The I m F traditionally has always been european and a gun in structure. The bank is not democratic there. This there is an interesting idea. Is that the funding members of the bank or tat a deal where it's one dollar, one Therefore the more money you contribute to the World Bank, the more control you have over the organization? That's why China and India might represent around four.

percent of the world's population, but only five percent of the votes at the World Bank. Whereas six countries- the? U S, Canada, Japan, Germany, the UK, France Control about forty five percent of the decision making power and it's not require to reveal its internal documents. You can, of course, but it doesn't have to others. Why I keep talking. I apologise for this. I keep talking about the loans as though there is one kind of alone, but there are three the first project loan, that's where we take dams and power plants in copper, mines and stuff the sector. As a sector adjustment loan? That's that's where they support specific points. policy changes in an industrial sector, for instance, and third, the the one that you hear a lot about when it comes to those changes of deregulation,

Regulation, privatisation, so on that is. These structural adjustment programme was short term support change. Major policy changes hi, I'm Hillary Clinton and I'm excited to be back with a noose, and have you and me both? You know when we started this podcast. We were going through some tough times and let's face it, we still are but I am a firm believer. We're stronger together, so please join for more conversations with people who will make you think, make you laugh and help us find a path forward. Listen to you and me

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we're looking at a world within your lifetime listeners we're looking at a world where it's quite possible is it's quite possible that poverty becomes eliminated. If, if this group is actually pursuing their goals, nor I mean, in their allotted Ngos, train to the same thing non governmental organizations. But what are you guys think like? Do you think the critics have some on grain of truth in it Criticism is: is the World Bank a wolf in sheep's clothing? Well, there's a lot of fear about global organizations like this, and we spoke about the millennium development goals that the? U N had put forward in two thousand that lasted up until two thousand fifteen, and this year they got replaced by the sustainable development goals yet, and I'm not going to read some of these off just to give you

dear of the let's, the goals for good there are being put forth by the United Nations, one no poverty, that's the one that we are talking about, and that was number one at the top of the millennium development goals, which was in fact end. It was adequate extreme poverty and hunger? Now it's just no poverty, we're kill it. It's done. Number two is zero: hunger, which is really good. We want to look at good health and well being quality education, gender equality, clean water and sanitation or all the way down to our climate action, reduced inequality, throughout the world, and these are some huge lofty goals, but, as we could see from the Lenny and development goals. They didn't pretty well, at least who knows of day the? U n actually did all of the things to cause this, my world Bank, but still

having a global organization with those goals and and actively pursuing to rid the world of these terrible things. I mean, I think, it's pretty great, but on the same side, to the other side of that coin, I think it is probably not going to be very effective on a global scale. Again is: are these institutions make a change in the world or are they just enforcing a new car? A colonial status quo right? That's a huge Pascal how it feels to me in some sense yeah. You was that

I guess, it is sometimes it's just a matter of sort of shifting the status quo so that it suits those in power and sort of vague, allowing them to make malleable to to their own ends, and you know mean I hate hate, sound, sound, cynical, a a lot of times when I see been organizations trying trying to make these big changes. Involve you no, you of kind of backroom deal type scenarios me wonder. You know where their motivations actually lie. Yeah yeah true and then also it's it's tough to guess, because there's ups fumigation of the internal documents right and it also took the guest in new kind of thing. It's a cut. It's one of the first kind of entities doing this for this long right eye, but they ve been accused of odd doing they have been accused of pursuing ulterior motives, clearly

I'm sure there are multiple sites, the story, because of course the bank is dealing with the corrupt places at the time, but the allegation that the bank itself, that is corrupt desire of discuss its, not crazy, It's not crazy that people with a lot of power would play some underhand amendment. I mean, and corruption begets more corrupt, You know if you're working in a situation where you can get away with something because of you know the status quo of that particular situation. Certain type of person might take advantage. Yeah, that's a good point too. So I guess, though we have to look at. It regret balance scale on one side. We have the good, that's being done right and then other side. We Woloda sketchy stuff. So do we make the call about well when we make the call But whether this is a good thing

and listeners, especially if you listen and foreign country. What is your country's experience, these institutions? We want to hear from you and just show you how much oh man I wish we had time to check all of that your mail from the last episode. Oh, we have, we got so much actually have a list of all the people who wrote to us. You have such a good guy going to read them out at some point, or do we have this can I have available. I have one in particular that I want to shout out, but thank you.

everyone. For writing. Of. Writing to us about sleep, sleep paralysis, nigh terrors shadow people, all that stuff, all kinds of just really interesting stories about sleep in what you experience when it happens, be asleep to us and dreaming. I think of the three of us in this room is fascinating. Subject already, just the idea that we we deactivate for hours and hours and hours at a time every day, still weird Thank you, Jessica Liz JAMA, age, aid Wayne, Andy Michael Shaw, an shown o Vanessa Tom Ellie, Jasper, George Lazy and finally yoga. Who did something that I am not aware anyone else has done so far in the show its first, she sent us a voice message she was listening to our shorter car and she pulled out This is the road and decided to record a message and sent it to us thought that was pretty awesome. So

We're just gonna, go ahead and listen to the story that she's telling about experience. She had back in the day, hey guys, I was listening to sleep paralysis, podcast and while driving- and I heard the story about the guy sleeping- the two girls and then having now, where little episode I remember a while what kind of a similar thing happening to me. So I used to it my family and two story house, and then there is I kind of like three stairs. Go down to a lower level, I guess he would say, and my brother, my older brother. He live in the room down at the lower level of the house. Now he kept complaining about like where things happening to him, or he would You know we wake in one at one point

he soon like something extremely like them. Making the corner of his room- and I was just You know, I don't believe you at all like this is just crazy. I don't believe you and doing, his room- was set up. Was there was like a family room downstairs and then right connected to the family room was his bedroom, I remember being like half asleep on the couch and he looks over it mean he's like hey, Are you sure you want to sleep down here and I'm way me why he's just like ok wall, something's gonna happen, and I'm just like. Ok like this, I just was not believing him in India the stories he said anyways, I fall asleep and I dont know how long I was asleep for, but I do remember like opening my eyes, and it was. It- was a weird sensation to like me awake, but not view

do not be able to move or get up when you want to get up. Just a weird is, failing is never happened to me before I remember this man like standing behind me. So I could hear him I could hear where he was standing by. They couldn't see him and he was you know. I know you, you don't know me a lot of ball. They say like when they see needs really is frightened them and they get really scared and they need that. I've been watching you for a while, and he showed me like a bunch of pictures of me like just doing everyday things are getting out of Charlotte, really weird, and then he goes do I want to look at me and I said no Why would I want to know just remember like squeezing my eyes and like filling the weirdest forest like on my head? like pushing me down and trying to like opened my eyes, and it was like the scariest like I'm shaking, thinking monetary now and then I just kept trying to

And, finally, I woke up and I ran upstairs and now I love my mother abbot. Time, and I told her what had happened and she's decide, shocked, doesn't how to react and well, let's go get your brother and see how he's doing while you're walking downstairs he's rushing upstairs and he's freaking out, I mean we're like what's happening, he's like I just remember, I'm sleeping and just filling completely drained I could hear in the next room, a man talking you lie about something I couldn't understand what she was. He was saying, but I heard how like deep his voice. Wasn't it freaking me out? I just was drained of energy and then I right when I called wake up then ran upstairs. So Take it how you want it, but those awareness, weirdest thing that has happened to me and I think that what really validated for me was the fact that my brother also her

what was going on in the other room, so I know something happen. that night I don't know exactly what it was, but I just want to say like I don't do. Drugs are like me. I really don't even during their life. I just thought I would, Are there any was scared of a weird story so hard for me to like riding in an email on the side of the road but I thought that you guys know well. Have you found can keep it? Thank you However, I will simply creepy experience. I wouldn't I wouldn't want to go through that wonder if they haven't any other time or something similar to that says. That was pretty much it, but who now need the brother asthma, whether I don't know, but maybe will I hear from the brother Also also, I love the eleven people sitting in audio files. If you, if you would like to you that we'd love to hear from you, so I guess I want to follow that. I've got three guess I mind, the idea had the first one is much along the same lines.

values audio message, and I wanted to show that we got a pretty cool collection that looked at both that sort of their good examples of both sides of the sleep paralysis. gosh rioting, yellow variety, so here's one Francesco and She describes her first experiences. Thus, first time I experienced sleep paralysis. I was taking a nap after class and preparing for a late shift work when I quote awoke end quote I couldn't move, but I could see my room as I was lying in my bed. I was on my side and could see multiple white shadows were quickly floating across my room back and forth and disappearing through the walls. I was petrified and wanted to run and scream, but could not move and had trouble breathing, at this point in my life, I had no idea what had happened and figured. It was just a very, very vivid night man. A few weeks later, I had a similar episodes. I wasn't

same exact position, except this time there was an attic door in the ceiling of my room, the act or partly opened, and things were being thrown of it even saw an arm again very terrifying and I couldn't move or make a sound, and my chest felt tight super current thing thing on your chest: pressing now pushing the life out of you now that I looked back of a situation, I dont know what to think of it. There were so many factors, scientific, an supernatural that affected my life, so now, I want to say I want to follow up man with this. One sort of that fear terror, kind of scenario and now got a couple that sort of show a different angle on largely because both of these folks report very specifically browser situations like we talked about, but they are kind of at peace with them. I thought that was really interest. Our first one comes from George

and am forgive me if I take on a bit of a voice when I revision of gender equality as wonderful as very compelling the pros here, gentlemen, I like it, I understand you live busy. Lies will endeavour to keep this concise money. George and I assume from the episode on sleep arouses, you may be interested in a first hand, story on the matter. I'll start by saying this has happened, many times, and I am a firm believer. It is just a crazy and amazing interplay between our brain and body. Some of my experiences have seemed varied our core sinister in nature, but it was only in the very beginning. I thought they were other worldly knock, The whole thing is pretty one email, but I'm gonna read his first example here. The first occurrence I can remember in sharp detail. I was too three years old, living in Santiago attending my son or technical school, having been in the U S Navy, for just over a year. It was like most of the classic stories. I felt

we awaken unable to move when I came to sense, a dark intent in the room with me. I could feel something crawling up from the foot of my bed and very suddenly an intensely pressing down my chest. Trying to force all the air from my lungs and crush me, the feeling of being completely immobile suffering. What you think is impending death. same time fully mentally awake and screaming. In your mind, is such a foreign experience in our mundane daily lives that it borders on the unexplainable simply said it is terrifying on a level that makes you feel like a little child again, hoping your mother or father will rush in and chase away the darkness. Here's where it gets interesting. The summit all up. I am one of weirdos actually enjoys. When this happens to me, Georgia's words online, I quickly dropped the notion that I was being haunt

and grew to see it more as an extension of a lucid dreaming state living in a place and time where everything has a logical purpose and science rules the day it's fun to have the rules. Reality bent a little because your brain thinks you're awake when you are really in asleep limbo, loved podcast, respectfully George, I love that George, because it makes me feel less bad about wanting to experience it, and I think it's interesting because heap he has he's both sides of the coin through experience in has any, and he can't exe plain it away and is probably leaning towards more of it being like a relic supernatural event of some kind and then the more he experiences it the more it's just fascinate him and then the more he realises this. As you know, an extension of his mind and he is experiencing, it ended something that you, normally experience Zob, I you know he's not taken for granted in that's pretty awesome speedily, rational like to so

my second one. This person ass to remain anonymous. So I'm just going to read one of his or her experiences. I had my first shadow person experience when I was about fifteen at a summer camp I was sleeping the top bunker room, eight other people, and suddenly I opened my eyes and saw a black shadow floating over me. I was star but, unlike the panic reaction of many others, my next feeling was a complete certainty. This entity was watching over me like a mother and making sure I was ok a second later at dissolved away, and I went back to sleep. Another needed by work up very suddenly and saw a similar shadowy figure in the opposite corner of the room. I still get these once in a while and it's strange, but I'm not afraid it all. I still be afraid my things I mean you can look at it. So many different ways in like this kind of God,

he's your version of it. I mean you know any, even if its associated with Canada negative experience, I think it's interesting to be able to see both sides are something with them. That's why I like George and this enormous persons, letters well you know I will we did this episode. I didn't know that it would strike a chord with so many votes out there. Listening some of the most useful comments. We have forgotten really yeah of people just saying: hey, yes, I've experienced, as I remember when this happened meat. time. Pinafores about gas goes the largest number of letters that I've seen generated from a single episode. Unfortunately now is the time that no, and I have two mosey I'm out of here. Why don't know mosey snake nominate drive home as fast as I can. Various poop in my babies diaper, and I can smell it from here you I need to change our diaper, you guys so we're grew. Why tell me I get over this? Is you know? Yes I'll? Have you gonna get some sleep?

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