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I ha radio apple wherever you get your pockets presented by Pepsi Raw sugar wow. So this week's classic episode we recorded it. Shortly after the ascendancy of Pope Francis the hope of the catholic Church- and How we specify that would win the current Pope In this position was elevated to the seat. There was a pause liberation of aid. Certain genre of conspiracy, theory Concerning an organization, a group known as the Jesuits that's correct, read after Ratzinger right and suffers. is flying all around about who were who are the Jesuits ending this episode, we ask that question there and they did all the sweeping rain. They swept steps. It was a thing nor

All in this episode we are going to explore this group and find out more He refers to ghosts and government cover. Ups histories, riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now learned stuff. They don't want you to know. I will come back to the show. My name is mass and then- and this is the stuff- I don't want you to nice. Nice year. We, the widow working on our budget. We figured out the best way for us to do the kind of sound effects and and music the. U listeners, I've come to no love and expect the bed. The best way to get the banker back here is to have Mammy yeah have led to it is echoed yeah. That's totally fight That's also what era? What are your favorite phrases? The here

as an editor right now, as we call them predators here it's when your favorite things here, when someone says I will will fix it, you know imposed imposed yeah, that's that's great tactic: headway to save money, just kick the cared a little further, they're down the road, but if we are talking about money, then this makes me this makes me think of an interesting point. The we didn't really touch on in our videos this week, the Jesuits or do in pretty well financially. Will ya been what what's the best way to acquire wealth the the most efficient way to occur?

her wealth as a group- were a person- oh well- to be a non profit or religious organisation- something exempt from taxation in some countries, s really good. You know another way. What's to have wealth given to you or pass down, you from generation upon generation. After generation upon generation and the group were dying about today has been around for a while yet today. Ladies and gentlemen, we are talking about the society of Jesus, otherwise known as the Jesuits one thing that we found very interesting, both matinee was that as soon as the current Pope as record, this became the actual pope. There was this huge resurgence of rumours in conspiracy theory

about the society of Jesus- and I don't know about you man, but I, no idea that this was a long running concept. You know honour, so so what do we know about the Jesuits its star with history? So to start with the Jesuits less, let's look at the founder Ignatius of Loyal LE now. This guy was a soldier in fifteen hundreds and he was wounded by a cannonball broke one of his legs pretty horribly and want it kind of lead to this. Defending because of his spiritual findings, ones and when he was injured and we'll talk about that, later, but Ignatius himself was born October. Twenty third fourteen, ninety three, his name at that time was in Ego Lopez, the Loya ah yes, and he was not always vote,

who's, the godly man right. He was warrior men by its very different cast in that system. Now the bat Oh we mention in the videos where he was wounded was the battle of have blown which current fifteen twenty one. Now during this process, he was very close to death. yeah. I was busy grim if he had entered in your legs, especially by cannonball back in the day, there's not much that can be done for you yeah. This is before the advent of modern medicine, what we ll call modern medicine, so he survived but see always would have a limp despite several surgeries and when Nay did surgeries back in yield, fifteen twenties, wasn't anesthetic, I mean those booze by this leather by this leather yeah. She read a book while he was recovering. It took a very long time and was a book called the veto

Misty commentary on the life of Jesus Christ and on the gospels were looking at this weird is that it's like this mix tape of sixty different other christian writers opinions about the gospels here in this this book really triggered his conversion is religious conversion and views. He says that he had visions during this line up there were you know: eating him in this direction. In fifteen twenty three, he made a pilgrimage to the holy land, but he wasn't allowed to stay for more than a few days and they can a shift in back off the Europe right yeah. This situations pretty unsafe. You know he's limping like a madman up the situation by the way we have the benefit of retrospect switch was unsafe for everyone. There wasn't just you know some

some group of totally innocent european sitting around the Middle EAST. There were some. There are some hard cases on both sides and they thought he should not be there. He studied at several universities for the next eleven years BAR alone, a collar Salamanca, Paris and in fifteen thirty four he gets his crew together. I don't think they call him crews back then he, this group of friends in some followers and

take two vows. They vow to commit themselves to poverty and chastity. Now those are two very important reoccurring themes that will see in in the vows and the other things that are held sacred within the society of Jesus. Now, the at this point they did something interesting to me. If, yes, they went to Rome and went directly to the Pope to Pope all this, the third and they offered their services to him. I imagine that being a pope and then this group of guys walk overly hello. Oh wait! We just want to do everything for you anything you need, and they seem to have this interesting slant on security yeah there. Their idea is that they will be directly answerable only to the Pope and only two

the head of their order, the who they called the superior general or whom they call the scenario general so in fifteen, a Pope Paul three by the way, is down for this year in fifteen forty Ignatius of Luella, officially founds the society of Jesus, and yet the Pope CO signing him. So he right simple rules for his order, no specific form of dress, which was a little bit controversial. That I'm no regular commitment to attend particular services. You know some other orders have a fairly specific schedule the lack of a better word and Jesuits as they came to be called you are free to move fast wherever they are needed, and that means that if the, if today, Pope Francis Contacts, the Jesuit order and says I need people to do, ex wires ie, then they wanna have people ready to go near mobile and active at all times yeah. This goes back to know you.

Paul. There are some very important events in christian history during this time. The Jesuits we're already at the Pope side is like his cabinet in Council way back during the council of trends. Now here's the crazy thing by by the end of loyal is life around fifteen. Fifty six. This group has grown from just a small group of friends that went to talk to the Pope to over a thousand members and

That's some pretty huge growth, especially for the time right. They are mainly at this point in Europe, where the task of the orders, teaching and arguing against the protestant cause, but, but there also going outside of the west, my friend to Latin America, to India, the ideas that they will aggressively assertively proselytize to the great unwashed near nerve, they're, putting up churches in these places- and I mean some some really interesting exploration that they're doing right and aid. They have a debatable that times. Controversial involvement, of course, of students of history will recall that the catholic Churches involvement, were good and for ill in areas across the world during the european expansion, but met. Something that is interesting me that you are really are mentioned is that you said this was sort of a military order. Oh yeah, there focused on security, so they re kind of

come to be known, as this military, let's say, are more like the right, the right arm of the Catholic Church and they they use their power and influence in that way, and you may even hear these guys the Jesuits hold God soldiers which is pretty interesting or even gods, Marines and officially this is because Ignatius you know he was a soldier. That's his background. That's what he was a good at it. Canna gave him let's see this organizational ability and experience that you that you wouldn't usually find in someone at this level or doing this kind of work. I got into a real, been session of stuff. You should know on Amazon music yesterday and I gotta say it's hard to pick the best stuff I've learned there were shows about pain, parrots, the stone wall, uprising, chaos, theory, L, NEO, I'm glad I know about all that stuff when you wanna, know stuff Josh.

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opium before what the heck is gone on air there they come in and they say you own. This is our religion. We're here to teach you to read like civilized people, of course you being Japanese say, ah, you guys should learn to read like civilized people, herds be japanese, but it's strange because Their allegiance is to another european that you as job he's version never ever met and probably won't, and they are suitable only to this guy. That's! U nuttier authorities not in anybody else. You the head of a religious order right and of four people, within the church and other orders. This is even stranger because I've seen cop movie, he's or tv, like procedural Crime shows right where there is all is the scene with the local sheriff is mad that the first,

agent, is coming in Boston. His balls is my jurisdiction. I know this is an FBI case. Is this easy in air. All eighty up here I just wanna check. If there's any tobacco is a tobacco related crime, herb alcohol may have intercede dossier, don't tell anyone were not. Was the functions of the? U S but were taken over a year exactly so this kind of game and This is similar to what happens when a Jesuit Jesuit representatives and on some sort of mission interact with local local catholic authorities. There can be this, Weird thing we say, while I am the priests of this church, this this community and it's my job to do acts and the Jesuits an insane. Actually, the guy we're talking appall, we just column Paul.

We're gonna we're gonna. Take it from here innate they had this extra emphasis on mission work and education, work, which kind of put them at the fringes of I don't know you would call it, but where Catholicism really was holding sway, though they were kind of this weird front lines of strong arm power, but at the same time were full pay were focusing on an education and we're just doing mission work here. It's cool guy right. They were raising villages to the ground and they were. There were much more likely to assimilate if they could and work with the existing power structures of a place which later became a problem. But anyway, for all of these reasons- and these are reasons there are often the victims of rumours speculation ACT,

patients notice agency wild accusations. I just sit: accusation Yemen and it's kind of their fault. What, but even while they invented the system called causes tree, it offered loopholes for all sorts. Really not good thing. Ok, so it's all right to lie. That's for the good of the church. It's really hoping to spread the truth of the matter, Spool, therefore, it's a lie: The service of the truth, therefore I'm not really in trouble stuff, like that good things like that write em for an example of the rumours that they would have a guy in France in Blaise Pascal wrote a book called or a piece called province, you'll letters exposing

what he said were abuses by the Jesuits and in other places, all pretty much all Europe. There were controversies over Jesuit rights, theological disputes and their close adherence to Rome in em, an ok. So let us go back to about how these guys are out on the fringes so lotta people didn't see. M in the way that maybe they would have liked to be perceived because they're not working with any local groups right, at least from a top down perspective from where they get the or their order. They get their orders from way over there in Rome, just the Pope. In their own general. They also worked with suppressed catholic communities that were under at time, protestant rule. Ah, yes, that's real conspiracy to yeah you're. If you were living in a good light

an area where there is protestant rule and then you're. This tiny little catholic community lends existing in their the Jesuits every back man I mean, and that's a cool thing to know. It at the time you me they had people meeting in secret to conduct services and there was a pretty good Youtube summation. I saw on is our wish. I remember the guy's names, but there is a Jesuit Youtube Channel where they have where they have members of the order, answering questions, explain things and they have agreed video about the idea of Jesuit conspiracy theories where they talk about how there would be these little closets or secret, hide a ways for priest and so This they argue, gave rise to many of the later theories about the Jesuit. Old order, something because people would look at these houses and say: oh what's up with that little hidden

space and they say: oh that's where we put the Jesuit priest nets of weird thing. You say to people we, to take communion, and we didn't have anybody- and you know those protestants- he always barging in marginal for community opportunities anyway, so the Jesuits, gain? A lot of influence in this is, as you said, because they are educators and establishing schools that at a time when, there's not you know a really feasible public school system, so they're getting the kids of the UN wealthy declare the influential and then moulding young minds, the winning hearts and minds quite brilliant earlier. Had a wishes are school, Sir Church officials become increasingly concerned about the power.

the society of Jesus. They are in the high circles. The court's you know: people have whether, with colleagues their core Jesuit in stuff happens, the court judgment I don't know, but you see what I'm saying is exactly what you're saying so all these yours and rumours kind of culminated on July, twenty first, seventeen, seventy three: when Pope Climate, the fourteenth, dissolved the order. Man, that's tough, will you. it's pretty crazy, but by that point has already been officially abolished in a couple of places, France, Spain think there may have been a cold war, but clinic claimed that was doing this only as a move to make peace within the church, because there was a lie of tension, and I see so he said nothing personal for the good of the family. You're just gonna come down for little bet, you guys are officially the Jesuits anymore, but that didn't that didn't last for long gray in eighteen fourteen this is

he was restored, and everybody remember the name Clement Fourteenth, because we're gonna come back to him, but that's the way you know these are some of the controversies is some of the history of Jesuits I'll. What's going on with them today? Well, you d have a website valor, that's a good thing. You can start from their official website. This is a quote with close to seventeen thousand plus priest and brothers. Worldwide. We are the largest male religious order in the catholic church. We are pastors teachers and Chaplin's. We are also doctors law, here's astronomers among many other roles in church in society. In our varied ministries, we care for the whole person body, mind and soul, and especially in our education ministries, we seek to nurture men and women for others. Now, as members of Religious ordered the Jesuits take three vows: none of them are the fake vow. That is

all over the internet, as far as we know the three vows or poverty chastity and obedience and but when you were fully initiated into the order, there's a fourth vow of obedience, specifically in regard to the worldwide mission of bringing the world closer to Christ, yet in the last one is just that kind of vow. It's very serious in this context, but every every religion Has that same goal, I would argue, will yet most most religions in some way, proselytize butts I may not all most village, they think either proselytize or attempt to maintain in an insular coherence, although that it's a little bit overwritten for me to say that way, Yours weird is right. As I reiterate my ears use going up, and I felt like an advertisement

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I the waiting for I don't know if we all have way. I owe you urban, ok, good, let's get weird with it. Let's talk about some of this crazy stuff, where alluding to Jesuits Matt have been accused of being assassins of killing everybody from distant priest to actual Pope's, and even U S President's Y yeah. What, indeed, okay! So let's talk about a couple of these Ben let's go back to Pope climate. The fourteen living spoke about earlier Valea well memory sign those documents in the Jesuits were dissolved officially in seventeen, seventy three or something. Well, you know just I mean it. I guess it happens. He fell ill to scale will say and he died and according to a lotta legends. His last words were quote. I am dying. It is a very dangerous thing to attack the Jesuits. I adds, according to

solving the mystery of Babylon, the great by guiding Edward Hendry. And what strange about this is the timing, because the Pope Pope Clement the fourteenth passed away in September that year- and it was during the summer that year that he dissolve the order and you'll see various bits of evidence. Alleged evidence about this. But but it's Christine Wonderful further out. There, too, is Abraham, Lincoln yeah. This idea tat bad as far back as eighteen. Eighty six, when a guy named Charles Chinik, we wrote fifty years in the church of Rome, alleging that the catholic church killed Abraham Lincoln. While why, though, it the people dismiss the claim today, at least for Lincoln, but not so much for clemency yeah, the climate claim do especially because of the timeline like you just

it seems to be a little more interesting to people and maybe have little more weight. It should also be noted that John works Booth was not a catholic Cage almost with the assassin of Abraham Lincoln. So that's that's interesting. The assassination stuff and I hoping that I can get some more primary sources to figure out what the story is with clinic. fourteen only make no mistake. The idea that the Jesuits would ever assassinated Pope is seems very strange and against their charter. exactly opposite right. Yes, literally the opposite, so this is dismissed in in the mainstream categorically. There are. There are not historians or professors who say. Will you early

the brutal dont tell me where you are right, but I would say you know if you just got dissolved and you want to still be the Jesuits you take one Pope out, guess what happens? Another proof comes then yeah. I don't. You know, I'm still again looking into this, but we'd like to hear what you think, readers and why I and that's just one conspiracy theory about Jesuits, there's the other one that they actively work to subvert world governments to Catholicism, Yeah well, here's the thing then, can I already happened in South America least. Ah, yes, when the Europeans began colonizing and in some cases terrorizing native feet. People of South America specifically will Jesuits, did actively work to win people over to Catholicism. But again, a lot of these claims rise up. When there's

a lot of anti Jesuit sentiment at the time as a Catholic, since you it's funny was tat. Into some friends of ours: there are lower older and they were telling me about the big controversy see, win. J F K was elected President special in Boston, and being catholic ally. The stuff came up. You know would say: oh well now the United States just works for the Pope, because the President, his Catholic, oh man, oh ok, so here's the here is one of the most important ones. For me, this re here stems from the alleged oath, the secret oath, that has been around the internet that we talked about. That the Jesuits can and will commit any number of sins and or crimes according to their secret oaths, including actively lying about this right here. Ah so the oath is lit

Billy stuff. They want you to know it's ok to lie about the oath. Where you say it's ok to lie here. Little bit lead again tata? That goes that goes to that secret of where we discuss. Oh, yes, comes from a were called them Unita Cicada, which I am probably this pronouncing and we found we found some people who made a fairly good case. This was a forgery, but it's a forgery that almost reads like satire. It's not far out there and you can find out more about that in our video on both are videos. Actually they came out this week about the Jesuits and then there idea that, of course, if the Pope tells them to do something, they do it and it does not matter what it is. So the Pope could say: hey kill that guy and they would say

Who are you lazy? Bravo, who really that's the idea right and then we should differentiate, which Pope's we're talking right, because it is another one right we'll do you give the pope? They made the reopening of the Pope, the one that exists, and then he got the black Pope, which is a nickname given to the soup your general, the leader of the Jesuit order. In a earlier video Matt, you and I talked about Pope John Paul, but first right

sorry man. I just have these images of that New Sean adults when black Jesus, but with Black Pope, just think that that would be funny and adult swim. You did it make a sequel now that the name Black Pope in this case is not a name that the catholic Church necessarily condones. It's a bit of a pejorative. It's not exactly compliment that started out as a nickname that came from the the plain black robes that the Jesuit order would wear, but it also came in. I think stems mainly from Protestants in the sixteenth seventeenth century, saying that this guy disappear. General, the Jesuits was a shadow pope which I think sounds even cooler than dab

who may wheeled too much influence on the working of the Vatican and the working of local governments in our Pope John Paul, the first video we talk about the conspiracy theory that John Paul, the first was assassinated at the order of the black Pope by cause. He was clean up. The financial dealings of the church, which, for decades, if not centuries, have been notoriously anachronistic, corrupt, but I will say: ups obscure, ok, obscured, ok, I'll go with that, like hidden, the fans were would be occult there, because occult just means are hidden thing right. So these these four the answer is notoriously inscrutable and the guy who is delving into them to clean them up. He dies. You ve gotta check

video. If you're having a it's, it's a very interesting story agreed. So let's look at behind the scenes with some of these theories that are out there. This here's words this here's where it gets crazy stuff. Well, it sir it's kind of sad ban, but a lot of stuff. It seems at least to be religious discrimination. I see yeah just because it's a group that is easy to ah so mistrust the bow and, in a sense, the really powerful at the time to lose bird, powerful groove and you know, I think, there's a lot of fear when there's power involved, oh yeah, definitely I mean I can't handle being that the first car in line at a traffic up her leg. It I'm a megalomaniac that boy are you kidding, I'm Conway West of the bullet It means the Avenant. My van hits the frontline, unlike I'm, gonna, go

slow and you're gonna, like the music on play, really music down his head sure. If, yes, that was you man all the time so we know that there are examples of this to what we are seeing is that these kind of accusations have gone from pretty. Much the late fifteen hundreds all the way from world. or two to a where, For example, Nazis also used Anti Jesuit propaganda to try to discredit the catholic Church in Germany in Euro at honestly and for being completely honest met. It is true from everything we found that the society of Jesus has different times, certainly been hungry for power. Oh yeah and garnered political influence their ends. You know they had this emphasis on education, so it was probably viewed that you know they're trying to just completely convert massive swathes of whatever

country. Herein. I mean I can see how that would be a little scary will there was an interesting, though, is an interesting. I guess at the time it was a debacle, China win, the society of Jesus was doing mish work there, because they assimilated so well into the local culture and the circles of power that the the controversial choice they may, which the Pope did not care for, was that they said okay. Well, if you Christian, you still want to participate in traditional confucian rights. Let's find on that score

cultural thing. We think its cultural, we don't they guessed religious. Oh you know our guys can participate in it too, and they got in quite a bit of trouble. For that, then also, you know it shows dissension in the ranks, but with all this said, I don't know about you this one of my favorite parts of the show right up there with the let's talk about the crazy stuff to where I get to ask you what you think about this. This whole thing man knew love it. Don't you I love making me through rearing, really hard, not just asking Wellman. I I don't know. This is a tough one for me, because you know any time you bring religion in love, and I M not trying to be disrespectful to anyone, but I think about power, and I think about a lot of times.

amount of wealth and then, when you add this group that in my eyes at this point, doesn't seem to be as evil as a lot of the rumours and conspiracy theories would say not even close to that, I would say that they probably do have a lot of power. Still even now, he has the largest mail order. The catholic church, though ripe- and you know, as far as the vow goes, you got me on that one. I couldn't tell you one way or the other, but everything that we found seems to point to a being a forgery yeah. We, I know that we ruffled some feathers little bit always said. This thing is a forgery buddy We find something, and we have compelling evidence that it is true or not true. Then it is sort of our job and where we can my sword. I meet definitely actually our job. We can't pretend that we don't know that kind of thing. I I I

interest in this to this was really a sticky subject for us, because, as you said, we typically avoid religion. Now, I know that there are listers out their same way. You guys have done a number videos, indifferent things about the catholic church, but typically what we're covering own do. That would be something like a political activity and event as an ever again assessed. The nation or an explanation about near the Vatican secret archives, which are real thing, but don't exactly me what you think they mean so Ben. Yes, you, you can't gave an overview, but you gotta tell me what you think. I am certain that oh the history of this organisation there have been very various laws broken and when I say this organisation I mean specific Lee this society of Jesus times, because you it's been around so long and have been so many people and They have successfully pave the way for a lot of things, especially education in general.

These are still amazing today, right, but clearly you can't have an organization of that size of that power. For that long without some body doing something wrong: it's just the nature of human beings. Now, as for weather the society of Jesus, is out to embark upon a global crusade to we'll take over the world and make every single person catholic, I think fit that's a little bit. I don't know, that's like the it just doesn't make sense to me, because if that were the case then, given that they ve been around for so long, we would seeing more of that, what we are seeing now are overall, quite a few people. dedicating their lives to travelling to so pretty rough places in the world and trying to educate people

to raise money to meet survival needs and these guys you're when they when they join. They take Thou poverty and chastity, both of which I would personally have a hard time subscribing to sure. So I respect people, especially when they have a code of ethics, but I still we walked away from this video and I just want to know more. So I've ordered a couple more books to actually about the Jesuits and I'm going to be extensively breeding, though, because I just want to Know- is this- there are there. So many stories- and we found a few that was for you right. We found we think are likely boss, but we are barely scratch the surface he had nothing. course not even made a dense, my friend, but it's ok. We will. We may make em back. Let's do little more research. What is it all right.

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