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or learn the stuff. They don't want you to know a production of. I hardly pollute, welcome back to the show, my name is meant, my name is no, they call me, then we're joint, as always, without a super producer, Paul Mission Control Deck and, most importantly, you or you you are here, and that makes this stuff don't want you to know coming to. You again live direct and full of act in the midst of a global pandemic that hasn't been seen since the beginning of the nineties hundreds. This is our third episode on the corona virus pandemic. And you, as we said in earlier episodes just like we were covering Epstein,

it is an ongoing events is one that we, like everybody else out there in the world, are keeping a close eye on and in our previous episode towards the end, I mentioned we were unable to get to all the conspiracy theories, about covert nineteen in a move. That should surprise no one. These can spirit These are still around there, in fact, or even more, but let's start, as always with the facts, because there are some much needed updates. We want you to be aware of so here are the facts. Gathering could be smart to take a look at the global state of covert nineteen. At this point, we have a confirmed death toll due to the corona virus. That's approaching one hundred thousand worldwide and as covert nineteen is detected in India, the Ivory Coast, Brazil and and more the fears begin to grow. The infection could ravage particularly densely packed

related lower income areas, neighborhoods ass slums, many of which don't have clean, running water or access to me, care, I'm let alone equipment that the rest of the country is obviously lacking in this. In very short supply, like ventilators, will yea and personal protective equipment just is something as simple as masks and gloves things to protect health care workers is it's crazy. Even around here, like my pharmacy, their sold out of gloves masks you can't really by them and I've seen so many people making these cloth masks and the CDC is put out an infographic showing the protect level against certain. You know Cereals, of course, first and foremost being viruses and thus cloth sir apparently zero percent effective in protecting you against the virus. Well, it's it's also. The functional cloth Basque is that it protects other people,

totally not, and I see that this is very important. I think there may be a misconception in some folks than those are apples, apples to those much more medical grade, surgical max and the other, the ones that are used in industrial situations that have a little filter on the front. Will we ve? We ve had people writing in and colleagues who are healthcare workers, people working in this industry to try and stop this thing and help people who are dealing with covert nineteen and there they have mentioned to us that the EU imagine a like what they are doing imagine going to work every day. Exposing yourself to people that have been infected, you know are infected view have tested them. You know their infected and you don't have the proper equipment like you're talking about their you ve just got something you created like handkerchief over your face. You know just pulling your shirt up in order to protect yourself like that. That is

mind boggling to me that that could happen anywhere in the world today, in twenty twenty line, and a really spooky thing that's been happening, is the federal government has been quietly com Daring, medical supplies and diverting orders of medical supplies placed by hospitals and by and clear learn well exactly but its unclear what they're doing with it right mean that really becomes the feeling of living in a police state. Where you know, regular rules don't apply anymore and in who needs these things more than hospitals, and what is the government actually doing with them? Where's the accountability? In the same way, you have to wonder what the accountability is on this kind of you no bail out pack where so much money is being diverted to corporations and far less than the maybe we would like being diverted to individuals. I have some pretty choice, things to say about that. As we get toward the conspiratorial side,

Today show I in the meantime, I would like to recommend a show called. It could happen here. It's appear pie cast of ours by guy named Robert Evans. I'd love to have him on the show too, at a later date. Yes, please give a thumbs up from Mary Fred there, but you guys are absolutely right. You're one hundred percent right and before we go into U S! Let's explore the world a little bit more! That's something everybody wants to do while we're in quarantine right. Multiple companies are declaring bankruptcy already over the first two months of twenty twenty. More than two hundred and four, thousand companies in China alone, went belly up as very fact. Right now we mention the Uk Prime Minister, Boris Johnson after birth, about how we love to go to hospitals and shake hands. He came down with over nineteen. He was in. I see you

he is on the men's according to the official government statements, but the doktor who tried to warn him to practise social distancing that guy contracted covert nineteen and died a cheer point Matt. You can see these harrowing videos of medical professionals on the front lines I'll, send you guys one of a guy who's showing his shoot up process and its it's insane even sped up. It takes forever and we know that people are fighting against it. China, recently in news that a lot of racist have Miss characterized China recently Institute bans on the consumption of wild life in some cities like change in, are explicitly banning the consumption of animals that are considered pets,

so you're a racist or hopping on say like oh, China is eaten cats and dogs, but to be clear, I think we mention this before in some show most people in China not only don't eat dog but have never eaten it and never ever want to. But when markets are the real problem, not resumption of pets. There. We talked about these wet markets where animals are kept in pretty close proximity to each other, then they are alive. Generally. And then they are slaughtered on site and then taken as meat. We noted that this was one of the possible words and points for the poor. You know all kinds of diseases that have occurred across time since these things, if you know the been round- and you think about the history of at markets they ve been around longer than most social constructs that exists for humans, but their thoughts

you want the origin place or possibly the oars origin place of the covert nineteen of the corona virus and the covered nineteen affliction, and Sars there was a pengelly call. I mean it's, it's clear, you know we say thought to be we're we're being pretty diplomatic. It's it's pretty much thought to be in less. You think it was created in that nearby lab the part of the boat, the wet markets, is that its plausible. If the practice is not ended, that a number of pandemic could arise from these locations because you know has, as we establish new previous episode, this is not the first time that a market like this has produced a lethal infection and now the world

as a whole. I am sure we all heard this we're in this together the world as a whole. We have a theoretical path to reducing the scale of the infection, but there is currently no vaccine. There is no cure and perhaps most troubling, there's no real estimate on what will happen next, because are so many factors play there. So many things we can do to make this worse or to make it better and you're, just reiterate some in their? We talked about, I believe, even in the first episode. These are. Zoonotic diseases, which means our transmissible between species are between you know from animals to humans, and that is what makes a project really virulent and then scary, and we even heard a story recently about a tiger, I believe, is in the Bronx Zoo that that was found to have read there actually monitoring this tiger and the testing the tiger. I thought that was really interesting, especially considering how the Tiger King Netflix Serious has caught fire. There were living in a time

covered and tigers. We I mean just think how strange it is, the small amount of human interaction that that Tiger has, with a very specific number of people, and one of those people just happened. To be carrying it. That's the only way that Tiger gets virus right it was a get a report on this episode of Strange news daily a few days ago. It's it was multiple tigers by ones you keeper, the tigers, are fat fans, big cats, who will be happy to learn. The tigers are okay as marriage

the TIGERS, I hate to say it, but the tigers are getting better medical care, then a lot of human residents of New York City and that something that critics are quick to point out, but also you know, tigers, are an endangered species and their than those tiger specifically or living in much closer quarters than a tiger should ever ever. Should there also more tigers in captivity that their order in the wild tigers are like my favorite animal? we're doing episode of tigers or activist. I look. I'm gettin distracted right right. It's it's coming out in the zoo, things really important point. No, because I think fifteen percent of cats that were tested for recruited in whew Han tested positive. We don't. We don't think that this is a situation where a tiger or house cat,

they get covered and transmitted to a human, but we know that humans can transmit to cat. So, if you feel like you are a mirror, compromise you're getting the signs and cake, attested or something just be mindful of how you interact with your pets, because we're on the last thing you want is an emergency that visit right. So we're we're talking about the world. There is some good news there. Some bad news, we're at we're out across routes were added decision, wait and, unfortunately, if you are listening to this show in the U S or if you like us, are making this issue in the: U S, we have some pretty some some pretty sobering things to report, as we record today April, tenth New York, as reported its high daily death count the positive lining their is that hospitalizations or down in general, but get this according to the latest figures new,

state now has more career. When a virus cases than any single country outside of the United States more than ITALY, right, more then, more than China more the LAO. China's numbers are a little while sketchy by and by the New York. The state alone has more corona virus cases confirmed in any other country there, like a hundred and ninety seven countries yeah, but where we have to keep in mind here, these numbers any numbers Your mentioning China's numbers are a little fish either any number for any country, any state in the. U S are gonna be off because of the lack of sing or the limited amount of testing that we can do so the lag and reporting. I mean we're seeing numbers that already two weeks old, you now so as as we see a number, it's probably you know guaranteed higher than that by not an insignificant amount because of the fact there's a lag and reporting

according to the official numbers out of New York, the confirmed case load of covert nineteen jumped by ten thousand cases in one day. This pass Thursday that yesterday, as were recording this, in a jump to one hundred and fifty nine thousand nine hundred and thirty seven putting it ahead of Spain, which was one hundred and fifty three thousand cases. And then ITALY was the number that everybody was trying to avoid early on, which is one hundred and forty three thousand, as of today YAP me up and China, where, of course, the virus was confirmed to emerge from this most plot likely from those wet markets. Last year has only reported eighty two thousand cases I now I don't mean to sound callous when I say only eighty two thousand. I just want to emphasise again that there are some serious and troubling questions about their methodology and how they

fine a case the same way with how a corona virus death is defied right there- and you know This is familiar to anybody who has recently tried to get testing because, for while in the law. In a lot of the? U S, there were some pretty strict requirements to get testing. There were even some strict requirements to get type different types of assistants who had to prove that you had cove it and now the? U S has recorded four hundred sixty two thousand cases we're getting closer to sixteen thousand five hundred deaths that numb we may pass that number honestly by the time this episode comes out globally, we're looking at one point, six million cases and the same day that we recorded our earlier episode, covert to rise the pandemic that same day, the United States Senate approved Stimulus pact

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this stimulus package first thought no one. Really, let's be honest folks, wouldn't really has a grasp of how much one billion dollars is. Even doktor evil in Austin powers. We clearly have no understanding what two trillion dollars really means this. This package is supposed to, or was supposed to, help the country in the people who live here, respond to this corona virus pandemic by provide in direct payments right to people and jobless benefits and then also giving money to states and then, of course, a gigantic a leviathan size, bail out fund for various businesses. I'm not saying that any of those things are bad. You know on paper there there very good

and a lot of people hearing. This have just struggled to figure out rent for April. You know what I mean these. This is serious, and the problem here is that this bill is more than twice the size. Yes more than twice the size of a similar package that Congress, ass back in two thousand and nine during the days of the great recession that was a hundred billion dollars and despite the size of two trillion dollar thing and all the corruption and lack of oversight that's going into it. Economists are saying this might only get us a few months down the road, because, again we don't know how long this is gonna go We are even if a month I mean, maybe a month is probably what you can get your turn him a rent, their urban, which, generally paid on a monthly basis and needs

actual amount. This going out to the individual. You know we will probably take care of that and a little extra you know some food, hopefully or any necessities by yet that's that's all you're gonna get out of that two trillion dollars per person. Really did only hope is that the injection of money for some of the states in the end up going to businesses in a perfect world would actually have something because man right now more than sixteen million Americans have lost their jobs. Unemployment may well be the second epidemic they were facing here is in this country at least and again that situation is gonna, be true across the world because of the nature of having to stay apart from one another and stay home. Small businesses are just getting hammered right now,

absolutely. I believe we have a lot of. We have a lot of people who are fighting to keep a job. We have. We have a lot of small business owners, some our fellow lizard small business owners who are doing innovative things to try to keep the lights on four. For a lighter note on this, I would add, for instance, you you'll hear all these stories about people doing very creative unorthodox things like restaurant staying in business by only doing curbside take out or new contact delivery. One example: that's a little bit body. Veal exceeds the crossness, is something called Buber eats out in Oregon, there was there's a stroke club called the lucky devil. Lounge- and you know these adult dance club shut down just like a restaurant or something and so to keep his employees working

The guy who owns the I think his name's shown bowed and the guy who owns the place started like an goober each day. Where they would have dancers, come deliver food de people, an end heat started it as a joke, but people took em up on it because they wanted to support the best. So people are finding ways around it, but those are very, very small, sparks of light in a very, very dark landscape and I agree you met absolutely ban and in that match your point about small businesses and to the point we mentioned earlier. In the episode about this two trillion dollar corona virus relief package. There is an author and a research directorate, the American Economic liberties Project by the name of mats dollar

who wrote a column for the guardian. Basically talking about how the corona virus relief Bell, because of the lack of oversight, it could potentially become a corporate coup. If, if government isn't careful, because you know with all of these small businesses. Failing we could potentially to his is the point that he makes his emerge with. Just like you know some sort of cream. The monopoly are bigger than that oligarchy, where there's just like, maybe five or six corporations that control all of the goods and services for the entire world? Yes, similar to what I don't the entire world by its similar to what

all a tribal or in South Korea like this conglomerate. That runs everything you know and we're. We are looking at something that that could be while very bad for the rich person, but yeah you're, right and older than we. We are running the risk of a huge consolidation and not necessarily some something. That is a good thing. Overall, I mean they're they're, also think about this, like this politics and business, their fingers on a hand, you know what as as different as they may try to appear. They are fingers on ahead

and it doesn't matter what sort of political ideology you ascribe to the there, at least here in the U S, they're both supported by big business and were there are also clear and present concerns that this pandemic may interfere with the upcoming presidential election here in November twenty twenty in the? U S, I mean primaries, so we have a lot of. We have a lot of solicitors. You have written into us through one lap. Or another who basically asked, is what the hell is going on with the voting session. In the: U S Eddie, it is like complicated partially by design, but so we have these things called primaries again. This goes for it. Doesn't matter what political party vote for. If you want to vote, you do a thing called a primary where you kind of like if you're republican or, if you are,

Democrat. They're gonna, be multiple people who want to be the republican or democratic candidate. Or what have you so before you actually vote November? You go do this other voting thing where you vote between, like there, five democratic candidates you vote for one you like, or their five republican candidate to vote for the one you like, and this is already getting pushed off. Like ton of states haven't been able to in these primaries and they were supposed to so what does that mean for November? It's it's scary, Debbie only good thing is that largely across the where's, your seeing an increase in you know, applications for absentee ballots being sent out I knew I'd here in a land I just received one which is, which is a good thing. I generally dont get them and it was just sent it wasn't like. I had to request it,

will you know that I will continue to occur, weaken hopefully make the whole democracy thing happen, and you know we talked about the problems with democracy before and the way its run specially. If you ever to party system to party plus two, two point one party system would say, if you add in the independence there, but you know, that's gonna affect us, but the real. The real impact in the scary thing, for me is that we talk we're talking about the sixteen million Americans that have lost their jobs. Rape- and you know that- has an impact on the individual, but also an entire family for each one of those people, and the scary thing is that that number ramp up to sixteen million over the core

of three weeks in when you compare that to what happened in two thousand eight two thousand, you know about the end of two thousand seven, all the way into two thousand: nine, that that fifteen million job losses that occurred back then took eighteen months to reach that level, and we ve only just begun. This thing and we are already seeing jobs hemorrhaging like that and when you say a job, it means rent and food, and you know everything, clothing, shelter, everything this needed for

entire families, each one of those big idea and one when import well said one one important point. I add this is gonna sound, a lot unusual to a lot of people outside of the United States. If you lose your job here, that often means you lose access to medical care almost always get because of the way insurance works in this country. You're you're right this, this level of growth is dangerous and things are very much, no matter what we do for for the near future things, set to get worse before the improve, even if the pandemic is wiped out the euro sooner than we think there there are still going to be alive.

Of enormous problems, still knolls point about corporations Matt to your point about recovering this. This is not about back situation. You know I an end on the corporate point. While there are tons of industries that are faltering there, A few very few that are skyrocketing. Hedge funds are making a killing, and we were talking about this. I think off air we're talkin about this price. Gouging, isn't saying you, don't you think I will do everything in his hand, sanitizing and p p and stuff like that personal protective equipment, but nintendo switches. It's it's bizarre. Nintendo switches are going through the roof exercise. Equipment is going through the roof mean either someone right now. Maybe someone listening to the show has aside hustler fulltime, hustle scalping nintendo

witches and selling them for exorbitant amounts and if she door or scalping toilet paper and paper, towels think about the big paper and whom the heyday there having right now, my god everyday companies. We call that a while back as eight applied, but but as something else is proliferating and add. Something else is, is conspiratorial thought now me. Some of this is some of this is a product of fear in searching for answers, which is what humans do. Some of it is a product of the truth, the actual stuff that a lot of politicians in a lot of mainstream media don't want you to know some of these things, some crazy and they are, and some of them some crazy

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or particularly deluded religious figures, have started like many politicians talking about unproven and quite expensive cures. Jim Baker, for example, for was recently as selling something he was calling silver solution. That He claims was created by God himself. He is in Cahoots with a woman named Cheryl Cell men and they have been selling his massive viewers ship like on this stuff like it can you know, with the expectation that it can cure corona virus in just twelve, hours it can't and and and the U S, food and Drug Administration hold him to stop marketing this, this snake oil as a cure for corona virus and- and of course that's now, the only one I mean in the same way way way way way way way: JIB Baker you can,

and this man you can also purchase all of the buckets of food. You you'd ever want to have brain we're talking burritos for two months. We're talking right, in chicken dinners for like two years, just in buckets that you can keep your house. If you want it's blessed, I think you can get some of the less look a euro. We're not we want to be very clear: we're not gonna grading religion at all, but we are A grating tell him analysed, especially those that you would classify as prosperity. Theology practitioners like craft low dollar, who still is my my favorite, loves slash. Eight we eager right now there is that kind of business, and for these guys it is a business that kind of business is booming. There's a guy named Kenneth Copeland out in Texas. He went to the White House two years ago. Two thousand and eighteen and had dinner with

like for this dinner, where a bunch of other Angelica leaders got together in. He says that he has a corona virus cure that you can try Psmith through your television screen. Remember all those old tropes aware on carers, who do it now? It's like put your hands against the against the screen. Feel the energy and say you know by the power. It's like that kind of thing. On his victory channel on marched wealth, he claimed that he would be able to heal corona virus infected viewers who touch their tvs Same put your hand on the television set Hallelujah. Thank you, Lord Jesus. He received your heels

as long as they wash your hands like before and after. I think I'm ok with a book bare of think what we're pointing to here, which is really unsettling. These are. These, are businesses that can successfully take fear? The fear that you feel the anxiety that you feel about the situation and translated turn it in Spinnet into old? It's very rumpelstiltskin ask and its disturbing, I think in general, but in a time like this, if it feels at least to me personally, particularly vile, we it in the same way that you know phone fishing scams are on the rise. You kind of take advantage of older people that are may be scared and men living by themselves and willing to give up their personal information in times of crisis those things always flourish,

in our earn thrive, and you really have to be vigilant to keep. Loved ones who might be susceptible to this kind of stuff. From from me now biting figures, though, the only other thing is that I have to add here. I currently cannot prove that there is something to putting out energy in the way that lets say, Copeland is saying that he is going to put our energy through, I'm extremely sceptical of it to the point where I do not believe it unless it is proven to me. However, I cannot disprove that there is something to that kind of connection, even if its through television, a yeah yeah. That's I mean that that is fair. We also know that we also know that the placebo effect is a real

powerful thing to some degree in an euro. If, if someone making these claims, if they personally believe it, then if they believe what their selling then it's Lake Merlin in more TWAIN's, Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur S court. We can't, we can't call them liars. We can say that may be that practice is not as effective or it may be its ineffective, but if they are not actually harming people, then it's it's their choice to do as they will. The problem here is that they could be harming people, at least in the cases we outlined and indecisive idea, though, still was interesting here by way of subway. Is that the difference here

is that they are not purposefully hurting people. In fact, they may believe that they are helping people. However, there is another conspiracy theory that says this: this disease. This infection is purposely designed to target certain demographics or to injure certain people right. It's it's a population control or it's a weapon or this this is quite a popular theory in IRAN, the supreme or Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has refused american assistance to fight the new corona virus and said that it could be man made by the? U S: Government I'm really slow misleading, because the the issue is that the Eu S offered a certain kind of help in Look cove. It is out of control in IRAN,

the! U S offered a certain kind of help and IRAN had requested another kind. They said you know, lift the sanctions, because you know the sanctions that have been placed on IRAN and Cuba as well had interfered with the Trans word of of medical equipment and assistance. People are literally dying. Others of worse as always accuse Israel of manufacturing the weapon or obviously the accused China of creating the weapon? At this point, it's kind of like the conspiracy theories about HIV is a weapon. It's it's just such a it's just such a damn thing, if you were designing a weapon there, better ones to design and in this surprising that this is still proliferating out there- we talked about this in the past and still there too new grounds. I just want to add here. I agree with you. Been there here that when you think

IRAN because of colonel virus? Maybe we ve kind of forgotten, but we are actively engaged in maybe not a proxy war way, but there are actual firefights actual hot conflicts that are occurring in Iraq. Between: U S, forces and Ronnie its IRAN backed militias. I believe that were the targets, but it s Hizbollah. Yet so it's it. I mean that's still happening and that's been happening. That kind of but behind closed doors battling has been happening for so between IRAN and the? U s I mean just want to add that other side there, like the reason. Why may be Khamenei doesn't want us isn't from America in any way, and also just do too

things are we'd outlined in the past about that the relationship between the two countries- yeah yeah, absolutely I mean it's, unfortunately, is a very old story right, and this is just another another chapter in a disturbing book. So we outlined a couple problems but we want to give you a. We want to solve something for you and we think we ve done it. We have new revelations. We have found the true or we're on the way to finding the truth about one of the most popular recent conspiracy theories related to covered nineteen. The idea that five g technology is responsible for the virus or responsible for once being perceived as a virus. We'd mentioned this earlier, but

more to the story. Yet true, I'm just a few days ago, there were at least three attacks on cellphone towers in the UK and in Ireland. That authorities believe were related to the five G corona virus conspiracy theory, but there is proof that a conspiracy Some kind really does exist here, maybe not the one that that we ve been hearing about that that conspiracy theorists. I would prefer that we, we think about person named Mark Owens Jones, whose a researcher at Ahmad Ben Khalifa University in Qatar

shall, I say, an online. This information networks analyze twenty two thousand, a recent interactions on twitter, mentioning five g and corona, as as the says that search terms- and that said, the he found a large number of accounts, displaying quote in a thin take activity. So, like bought type accounts, I imagine he said the effort bears some of the hallmarks of a state backed campaign. He noted quote: there are very strong indications that some of these accounts are a DIS information operation and went on to say that the campaign used a strategy similar to Russia's internet research agency, which was behind the disinformation campaign during the twenty. Sixteen? U S, presidential campaign, on the reason that the term russian Botz has become such a hot hot button thing to throw around so while Jones as an explicit

linked to this campaign to a specific state. He does note that there are pretty extraordinary similarities. Yeah yeah. In short, the spread of the five g conspiracy theory is itself a conspiracy, I'm just a backtrack. Real quick and be clear that the five g concept is is something that existed before and has just now being tied with corona virus. But people were concerned about the possible health impacts of five gb we're hand and right now, honestly not to be alarmist about it, but it is a new technology which means there are new longitudinal studies about the possible long term risk. Do it right now it seemed safe. It definitely doesn't seem like a creates. A virus

survival, like infections, we you only! You only have to go back to October. Twenty nineteen ends and civic American in other places to see that there is some research coming about five g that it is potentially dangerous. The radiation. The other people will be exposed to at doesn't mean it has anything to do with corona virus. It makes me ask at an interested to go off. Topic is ever so slightly. How does this stuff get pushed through so quickly, without you know. If there are these concerns and if there is even some research already showing that this level of radiation is dangerous like how How are we, as a country just fully on board with five g is sure, seems example of like commerce being put in front of the general well being of of people. Who I mean if you go to

does your times are wired right now? You know around the same time, December and part of the summer of last year, twenty nineteen everyone is doing their best to to say no look, there's no actual harm. That's gonna, be caused by you, no use your phone or having a five g device with you, were having five g transmitters near your home or anything like that and to a large extent it's it's true. It's just one of the things that does need to be study more, and I think I see what you're saying there no like. It feels like a necessity to push this through in order to enhance. Internet connectivity and the amount of stuff we are doing online right now, just as a in individual yeah, it's needed, but a year. I, like your point about doing the things you want to do or needs you as an individual part of the reason. This stuff happens in part of the region.

Political and corporate opportunist are are taking the are buying the farm right by ground out from under you right now is because we have as individuals a dearth of time we

so little time to invest in hunting down and finding these things that matter. Yes, there are regulatory bodies right, but they are. There are things that you have to go look for write the FCC, for instance, doesn't doesn't go public and blast out across broadcast channel any any policy, every policy decision they make. You have to look for it right, and it's the same with these kind of approvals, the onus of the activity is on you as the individual. Is that the way it should be? Probably not are things getting past that the average person would have Ject

yeah probably, but that is the way it is right now that doesn't make it right. But that's that's what's happening, that's how these sorts of things can can continue. If you want to learn more about bots check out the excellent episode we did with Joe Mccormick from stuff to blow your mind about russian bots the only thing left. The only piece of the puzzle here on the five g conspiracy is figuring out. Who is controlling the Botz? You know not anti russian types will say it's Russia and China types essays, China, and then you know at a: U S types will say it's the? U S, but the truth is at this point. We do not have proof of the puppet masters density. We just know that you know when you see celebrities like Woody Harrelson or that the british celebrity Amanda hold him.

See them plugging these kinds of stories in this kind of information there, probably not in on it. You know what I mean like. I don't think Vladimir Putin, or some other leader of a country contacted them like hey Woody, love you and cheers help me terrify the public and make sure that people, are scared of five g, as you said guys for the wrong reasons. You not you know who it is men who is its big forty outside its not behind it. Finally break orgy there. That's the elephant in the room. You know, I guess the one of the last thing I want to talk about today is that we do We knew something was on the way here. In the: U S: officials,

Something was on the way you know you can find an interview from NBC with two current: U S, officials and one former? U S official, who went public and said that? U S by agencies where collecting raw intelligence about war on China's, specifically back in new. Her, and they could tell that there was something going on in a thing. If it were, they could tell it was a public health crisis, they say that this was not initially understood as the first warning signs of a pandemic, but they had situation. You know what I mean they had overhead images. They had intercepted communication that showed health facilities were going into hyperdrive, and this was given to the feds in various public health officials way back and no poor recall again that the insider trading started to occur. In January and

Even when you s, officials realise the magnitude of this problem. There wasn't it wasn't very much action right. We didn't take a lot of steps as a country too ready ourselves for a pandemic like like the spanish flu epidemic. You know there were. There was no effort to boost those stockpiles of medical equipment were hearing so much about. There's no effort to encourage social distancing is matter of fact. If you think I don't know, I don't want to. I don't wanna be Sincerity frightening people, but if, if you have been counting on six feet distance to keep you safe, that's, unfortunately not gonna fly We know we know now that even the even the personal behaviour modifications we tried to institute there better than nothing, but they they are also not a silver bullet. We should have been prepared for this. In

way. Much much earlier, yeah mean back, and twenty fifteen by Bill Gates gave a TED talk. This being kind of bandied about alive now, essentially outlining exactly what were experiencing right now in outlining just how unprepared we as a Country would be, and in his idea that we should run Ali simulations to see how prepared the private sector would be too, have ventilators what kind of quarantine measures should be put in place in realising, as this has happened, that no one's was prepared for any of this at all, but didn't even take it seriously. To begin with, including the government you now and not to get to political dissent omit bugs people sometimes, but you know it does feel like there's a certain amount of doublespeak going on in terms of the narrative the government has presented in terms how prepared we were. You know this notion of it being some sort of left wing plot,

and then immediately this about face of oh no, we were, we knew all along that it was serious and and were prepared for it. So it's really kind of head spinning to see shift in rhetoric and it's like, but no but but but but you said no, but we have it unto Willow here's the problem in a blue hearing more and more stories that the federal stockpile of like tv and other equipment that is supposed to be avail or you get these hospitals are getting this old stuff and like, if you're talking about one of these masks, you can use it. As the elastic strap has dry wrought all over it just falls apart because has been there for so long and that spans much further than the current administration. You know in it. It it is like things where we we didn't, we were not prepared in so many ways throughout a large span of time here, no lasting, really

quickly just want to go back to what you're talking about in the intelligence agencies looking hard at work on in November, guy before we knew there was even a crisis. That's the kind of thing that spawns conspiracy theories, because you know. When you hear, let's say visual in China saying this was you know this virus was started by the United States, knowing that? U S by Currencies have overhead cameras inward Han before it officially, because a pandemic no they're watching their health facilities in particular and seeing what kind of activity is occurring. That's what's ends up creating, I think at least assists in the creation,

amongst this uncertainty that, oh, maybe the, U S, was watching the spread of this virus they created. There is this just then we have to be careful about, but it's also probably right any should be because you know what that clearly points to is not just a conspiracy theory. He bought an actual conspiracy. Make no mistake: you know certain members of Congress with access to intelligence reports did indeed conspire to make a buck, make a vague off of this. This disaster then they did so because they had information that you and I and everyone listening well. Some of the people listening did not have an end. This link that there's a really important point, turn related to this that I want to. I want to point out. We mentioned it kind of at the top of the show. This spells a lot of problems and, in conclusion, when we ask Where do we go next right? Where now we?

already seeing domestic stability become increasingly fragile here. In the United States year, we ve been very Turkey is a country that there's always a peaceful transition of power. Allow other countries have not been able to pull that off, and you know it's something that we take for granted here, but the chain of command may start to break down just in Massachusetts, for instance, the Governor Massachusetts had to smuggle mask from China. That can't believe this is a true story. On a new England Patriots Airplane, because the feds we're going to take these things, they wanted to be in charge of giving this medical equipment to states.

I am the system or the process that used to determine who gets what has been underage huge amount of criticism to the Massachusetts governor, smuggled this stuff on a sports team airplane with the help of the National Guard. With the help of the Massachusetts police, they transported it to other states. This is an open defiance of the federal government and you know, like think about, think about what happens if the federal government and the state of California, which, if it were an independent country, would be like the world's fifth largest in terms of GDP. What if California gets an order? the feds to fire or arrest their governor. Just being hypothetical in California says no we're not going to do it with what are you gonna do about it now like that is possible, not plausible, but possible. Yeah living indifferent episode, flits, let's hope fits

the next of or isn't as close as it feels flesh, is put it that way the there will be a next one at some point in the future. Hopefully not any time soon. Do you think it's a political, party based workers. It is between the haves and the have nots, Sir, where what's the division in this and this coming warrior, beer picturing will do does. It mean draw lines wherever you want there, they will be drawn and they kind of already are in so many different ways. Withers economics or you know ideology, or in this case you know, do something as simple as states, rights, verses, federal, I guess you're right. I think things have gotten so complex and so many divisions in our country, like it's, not gonna, be as simple as like me. You know the north versus the south there so many potential sects and thing They can shoot off the one silver lining here is that their a common enemy theirs

common enemy. Now that each state, each government across the EU, the world faces each individual, and that is this pandemic AIDS, I need a little microscopic thing and invader. They can find its way into your body or you're. You know your spouses body or your child's body or your parents body, and we thank the thing that we can band together and fight, and hopefully we can see past a lot of this other stuff. At least long enough to to get through this together at a really good points out and then and then something that I'm leaning on as well in terms of a silver lining or some kind of hope, will we better get it together, I mean you know this. Just the one point about politics here, like the: U S, California could go independent in Texas has historically had this this great pride a willingness to go independent.

So the stability of union might be a problem, but having a common enemy is something that does really not people. I think that's a fantastic point Matt and we better get it together, because six new coronavirus has were discovered in bats in me and mark just this week, not they're, not the same as Sars or were what we call Sars, what we call covet, but the point is they're out there, and this recovery period for the world will take much much longer than a lot of politicians and a lot of businesses want you to believe I get at the top dont. Think of this in terms of bouncing back. We need to think of this in terms of coin. Our way out of this slippery pit, and it's it's gonna, take every body where species that's terrible at working too. There are now the robbers hitting the road. You know what we We know that that the international

aid is already reaching reaching some crisis points, like you think you think the that it's bad when you see the grocery stores shelves in your neck of the woods empty and you can't get toilet paper that happening on a macro cosmic scale with mask ventilators, respirators, more, the! U S is taking and I feel like. We have to say this, even though we are as it is of the? U s and- and I I I for one- am a patriot- I love this country, but the? U S is like straight up steam. In international shipments of medical equipment- and this is it and other countries are doing shady stuff to the? U S is not alone here, but now, as we record this at least sixty nine countries have banned or restricted the export of protective equipment, medical devices, medicines and more

This seems set to continue. I don't I don't know. What are you guys think this feels very much like we are in moment that future historians will. Years. Writing about we're. We're in

of the defining moments of history. Yes, on a percent. This is a major shift in. I think a lot of us have already started thinking about this differently. I I was really struck by some comments that Doctor Anthony Anthony Foul Chief, I believe, is his name. Yet whenever one of them, you know main people who is fighting against this thing in attempting to advise everybody on what to do and heaved basically advised this week on Wednesday and maybe a little before that, but he advised that as a custom, the world, and particularly the United States, stops shaking hands forever, like we just cut it out of a thing tat we do

in that that to me is crazy, but at the same time it makes total sense in after going through this. I think everyone will see that as well will obviously have you dont shake hands anymore. You dont hug, anybody any more in public is not. It's not as though it's going to be for a couple of months or even a couple of years. I think this is going to be a social shift across the world. It feels like because you're saying this is like a shifting point. This is a this is one of those moments in history that we literally make a turn. Five degrees in one direction, and we don't ever go back the other way you abandon your point about not being a bounce back thing like, even if this were Iraq, accorded tomorrow, which obviously is going to happen. This is not how it works, there's going to be a period of distrust period of adjusting to you know the trauma that we have all collectively experienced as a as, as you know, a global Bob Society

now, where there's going to be things some kind of PTSD as a cult an end as a world that we're all going to have to wait our way through, even if all of this just went in a blip out of existence tomorrow, and obviously that's not going to happen so we're going to be dealing with those does various individual and collective traumas for probably a long time, but hopefully mad to your point. There is we can learn about ourselves and the way we interact people in the way governments work that may be can be taken from this and hopefully move things in a positive direction. I would like to believe that I didn't she hands, is weird again. I know I say this a lot on our show, but it's it's kind of its it's like neckties. You know some time over the course of civilization. We just accepted that it's weird it serves. It doesn't really serve a function. The old story about

shaking hands just to check people for weapons, and you got to admit man. It's a weird and specific thing goodbye to it. I won't miss it I'll miss a lot of things, but I won't. I won't miss just rub in PA. With some stranger right off the jump when I meet them. That's all here. I love the human physical connection of shaking ahead. I am a huge hug and I ll beware: I will tell you: don't count because I will argue I've used you ve gotten us before. Here I mean that's. That's all like seriously on a very personal note, that is how I met my wife by randomly hugging her and, like I, you know losing them kind of inner personal connection, Even with a you know, a total stranger. You know showing showing that connection that you know we're both the same

I don't know not be able to do that physically and having to do with either with an emerging in the future or whatever else we're gonna have to do to communicate a kind of feeling that troubles me deeply but yeah, who knows? Maybe that's where we're head Agus? Let us know what you think folks shaking hands, love it. You gonna, miss it. What's? What's? U take. We still haven't made a secret handshake for conspiracy, stop and now we may be but we When you hear from you, we want to hear your stories. Your experiences from your neck of the global woods I'll find us on Facebook. Fineness on twitter find us on Instagram where a conspiracy Stafford conspiracy, stuff, oh, we also like to recommend here's where it gets crazier community page on Facebook, where we ve here we want to thank you if you're listening, if you're on their facebook is perfect, but this has been there's been a really strong community and thanks to our minds as well,

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