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a low and welcome back to show my name is no. Our colleague Matt is honoured adventure. I will be returning shoe. They called me Ben. We are joined, as always with our super producer, paul mission, control, deck and most important, Are you are you you are here that makes this the stuff? They don't want you to know it's the most wonderful time of the year. made it fellow conspiracy, realist through trial, tribulation to another october, as you know, our wines, our favorite holiday. So we thought what better way to celebrate than to kick off this month within episode on monsters, not just one but two episodes this may not be the sort of exploration you were expecting and its taking us across the planet from aids times to the modern day. I never thought we'd have to say it. No, but this might be familiar

to some of our fellow listeners who play fortnight at least part of it. I am yet please don't tat, the rag honours too hard. We did our best we met a verse, is a very interesting place, rife with yeah it's that are mean to you, but now, as you refine, this is actually an expanded version of what we did there. We sort of just had high points in this episode is actually going to be. Some extra stuff for you folks did manage to catch that I met a verse exclusive piece of content, so without further ado. Here are the facts. Now with this is something I that you would. I have talked about at times, in another. Shall we do ridiculous history for a lot of human history for the span of human civilization. Belief in what we would call monsters was not controversial. Is in itself it part of existence. You know that

these days, things like vampires, and you bees are evil. Spirits are consigned a myth in legend rumour, but once upon it, I'm. They were considered very real, genuine environmental threats like you were really warning people not to go in the woods, That's it's true. In certain cultures and religions, this will take on more of the feeling of allegory or myth or sort of cautionary tale, but you're absolutely right. There are definitely culture that, still to this day, some degree treat them with the same urgency. Is you might in all like ben like a wild animal attack, or something like that, The idea of some sort of Numerous human stocking, the night, the power of belief, remains very, very strong in certain the one. I think you could be. You probably wouldn't be too hard pressed to find a person in america to some degree believes in supernatural forces

they call them monsters or whether they call them. You know hans Things are or spectres of some kind. I think that belief still certainly exists So, in the first part of this to part series we're going to look at some examples of this we're going to ask for your help at the end, because again, there are samples, aplenty, so much so that we are making this a two part episode look or exploring the lives of people and communities. In the past we always wanna take pains to say those beliefs do not in any way indicate these people where the communities in which they lived were foolish at all. Instead again, there working with the information they had, so there would be diseases. You couldn't explain maladies, strange atmospheric phenomenon, and so people would approach this through their own cultural frame work and they were just as intelligent as people today, so they wanted to explain

things to recognize patterns. A curse could also be. Another explanation and these ends These were always sinister. I mean there are a lot of helpful supernatural spirits in folk lore in view student of anthropology, folklore, history. None of this is particularly surprising, but there is one thing: it might startle a lot of us listening to day to day twenty twenty two october, all across the planet. There are not thousands, not hundred of thousands but millions upon millions of people who believe at least some of those monsters of old those creatures. Curses spirits in ghouls, anything that goes bump in the night Some people still believe they're real here's where it gets crazy. So, like you said no, we ve taught

about genuine, believes in monsters and curses and even more modern legends that a lot of the rest, the world might dismiss one of the things that think always amazes outsiders. Happens in iceland in full. Closure or pal mission control has travelled. iceland, I think not once but twice? I asked, off air a long time ago, whether she encountered this but believe it or not. There is strong contingent and people in iceland to believe in something very much like elles. Yes, but chose a movie it came, maybe last halloween, I think of so called elves, and this basically like an ice and a gremlins movie their mischievous little bastards in this and I think that those words is that a particularly great me we were, there is sort of like the precocious kid

go to the woods and discover like a tiny cute, l, fling and then, of course, by the fact that they have taken it see now into elder? The the bigger meaner scarier else come after, but ya know is very reassuring. Says, a belief also that kind of talk as in two. I believe it was icelandic. We do this and ridiculous history too, like the you'll lads member, the, u lands like spoon liquor and in candle snare niece, labourer pamper ever they were here, is that it is then there's none icelandic as well. The? U lads, are a sort of the year They occur in iceland and a couple of other countries through the belief is like the gritty dish her being origin story of santa's helpers, kind of they they

are the children of a demonic, monstrous figure, they are associated with mischief nowadays, but in the day, they were associated with dangerous things like stealing children. You know I love they bring up the all lads because they have a lot in common with the the owl far or the the elves, the hidden folk in iceland. But yet this was, this wasn't always just a story. You told children too got guide their behaviour. People did believe in this stuff, and Even now you might. I was surprised to find internet seventeen national geographic did a peace on this belief, they found that more than fifty percent of people in iceland claim to have some degree of belief in elles they're not super evil,

and they're really closely associated with the best are in unique environment of the country. I mean Scott lava fields it. It feels to me like, if you're looking, iceland for before. You immediately think. Ok, I'm either freezing or again inside of milan cato and I'm burning. So How do you explain if you're in early your person living early in early icelandic history. How to explain all this weird stuff? Is it tourism in iceland is, does it. It is a good point you make does tends to be a land of cultural extremes. I mean you know you got the most or just kind of leg lilting in our ambient music, like by the likes of Sigur ROS in bjork and stuff like that, and then you have this whole, like icelandic death metal movement. That is just the aps,

the most extreme kind of harshest of music. You can imagine- and I think the land and the landscape there and just the kind of isolation tends to can create, those kinds of responses and and and folks live there It is also very isolated, very expensive to live there, just by virtue of how disconnected from Everything is amended must be like people does get an absolutely reamed with import taxes and such an you if you were to ask most people in iceland. This question are many people who were to say do believe in elves. You find that a lot of people sit on the fence. Some people think it's. The childish, but you know, though also say: hey. We ve got a rich folklore. Here. This is a big part of our culture. So a lot of people won't apparently won't feel compelled We comfortable dismissing the idea out of hand, in general. It helps that these creatures

are not seen as super aggressive, so long as you. Treat them with respect their one. Big sticking point is that there are very, very territorial, and that means construction can be a problem. I love this yeah, you don't mean either key. or elves, of course, that we know and love or whatever may be, were terrified perfectly were kids in america, the little spokes things cookie vain. They live trees. You know, with like doors in them and lay little tree houses were apparent. In iceland, large boulders, are thought to be the homes of of the alvin kind, which could be a real proof. few clearing out now feel deserve of stone to make room for new developments. This kind of rubbish and could really rile up the idea that the house, and there are certainly folks who believe that als have kind of

taken unsuitable, luddite or whole linda in smashing industrial equipment like bulldozers and in making off with tools to slow down production, yeah, and elves also get blamed, win machines, break or just stop operating with no a pair an explanation, gremlins Really I mean how the gremlins america they were, I think commonly kind of thought of it. As I hijacking or sabotage, in planes you now in the wars yeah- and this is the sort of elf sabotage operation here I She goes to personal injury. They gave worker, may sprain and ankle or break a leg and at times the the actions of elves were blamed rather than an error or take it amiss step in older store. these. It gets a little bit rougher.

Can see livestock being afflicted with a disease or an infection, or even people, ill or dying unexpectedly. However, you find yourself on the sceptics, true believers spectrum see that a lot of people in iceland still do seem to take this seriously. Now, whether that's part of just respecting an angel, culture or whether that's genuine fear of harm. Whatever the case may be, you'll see that it's not crazy uncommon for people working construct. In your building a road to divert a road kind of in an arc around a big bolder and disturbing it or blasting through it, funny, man, it I've, given you have played breadth of the wild to some degree rain and yet, which you know those

a core oc guys that, like give ye the seeds that allow you to expand your inventory, they always live underneath boulders, unlike tree stops, and things like that in there's a little better a vision, is about those guys do also, you mean a gremlins by the way you are very much kind of an american creation during the world. Wars never seem to really jump out of a lot of his folk lore that you're talking about and these as you know are specifically, I don't even think you have to pay them off. whether that you're, there is inherently kind of you now: chaos, magic, wielders, yeah, yeah, they're, just agency chaos, in any case elves in iceland, lest we be aspersion upon the reputation year in the world, podcasting sportsmen, they're, not all bad. As a matter of fact, I found one former member of icelandic parliament even where's that a family, saved his life when he was in a car accident now

that just something you say during campaign, or is it so the really believes story for another day. Also in every penny, I guess speaking to your base, their right. I the fact that someone would even be comfortable I have to even say that out loud with a level of belief that wouldn't go over super well with politicians in the united states, unless it's just like you know, speak Do we ve angelica christian gonna believe with the idea of being well Actually, what am I talking about any focused on that side of the isle? There would absolutely say they have spoken to angels or that they have you. No, I haven't encounters of the third kind with more out of scripture, men, yeah superstition or folklore yeah. There's a there's, a widespread belief. system in the interventions of the divine and the infernal it goes across. I would Eddie, almost any more political spectrum. I, but this yeah, it's true

if you, if you're ever thinking while the people, some other country, must be so silly to believe in these things that I think are malarkey yet remember you're in a glass house as well because a lot of people in your country have believed I believe that things will be considered supernatural. I mean fitful indication isn't there's even in elf school, where you can take a day course that earns you a diploma in. I imagine l free, but, with that we ve we ve shown. You won one believe it is at least partially, genuinely practised by people in a country as let's pause for a moment, it will return with another, even more popular supernatural belief. I it's bethany, franco my time on, the real health was of new york is a few years behind and now I'm ready to put the wheel back into the real housewives, that's grandma,

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biology. From the moment I was born- it's been a part of my life in india, it's like smoking, you might not smoke, but you're gonna get I can hand astrology and lately I've been wondering if the universe has been trying to tell me to stop running in pay attention, because maybe there is magic, and the stars if you're willing to look for rounded up some friends, and we do then- and let me tell you it got weird fast: Tantric curses major league baseball team is cancelled marriages, K pop, but just but I thought I had a handle on the sweet and curious show about astrology. My whole world came crashing down situation that there is a risk to father Am I hold view on astrology. It changed whether euro sceptic or believer your ideas in a change to list.

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but did suicide come with me. Promoter read to learn more about the extraordinary life and mysterious death of revolutionary, listened to red, elvis curiosity, audio network podcast starting December seventh on the iheartradio, app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Ok, here's one. We will spend too much time on this one, because we did an entire episode on it. The gin when I love your point earlier, nor about the idea of many people in the: u s, believing and angels endearments many many people as well we of the islamic faith, but necessarily always islamic. I believe in the gin, given the idea that the creator made angels beat you

beans and made a third intelligent life for called the gin crafted out of smokeless green fire, its nuts, because I think, grow up until I saw until I started, find it write books in the library was about seven or eight, all I knew about the gin wise as western depiction, she'll Robin williams in alarm or cause. I am slash, she's a shoutout mandela's one. If it isn't it, no one knows actually, as a quick cursory, google search will tell you that it was in fact caused. Am I right is it she's am was sinbad is another thing that is apparently not real, only exists in like our collective unconscious for summaries is actually herbs, beginning of movies that will they do exist about gene. There is

a new movie from George Miller, who did the mad max movies and, of course, they weirdly, the babe movies and happy face movies. It is called three. thousand years of longing star. Till the swim and address alba, and they just Elba plays a gin and I haven't, is actually based on a short story called vision in the night and those I buy as by it not seen a year, but it looks pretty interesting and very elaborate and so he can get. You know a blank cheque do you everyone and after that mad max fury road just need openly blew the doors off everything so looking forward to checking it but yet jenner, interesting, there's a really another good depiction of fun. Silly depiction, in the shower I think you're also Van have been what we do in the shadows and the new season one of the vampires finds a genie, lamp, parisian, lamp and rubbing it has this, Jim that appears to him, but the cat, the characters portrayed as more like an accountant,

the kind of smooth, not a lot of late. You no five earn bluster, and all this kind of studies is much more gonna play procedural about it and very put upon by being this guy's servers and trying desperately to trick him aids making dumb fishes, or are you not to lose the wishes of the dungeons and dry? Gins. We call lawful evil. Yeah, there's always is it's kind of this associated monkeys par with the idea of wishes in june in the western, in the way, two framework, but if you delve into the axe, woolfolk folk lore, like pre islamic. in islamic beliefs, you'll see it goes much deeper than that and as much as I love robin Williams, ripping in latin, it is not a super. Accurate definition so check out our earlier episode on that. But before you check out that episode once

about a monster. Many people have not have heard of out and also side. Note, though, are not inherently monstrous or evil they're just different. I we want a thing Everybody took the time to write to us with their own gittin stories. After hearing that episode those years ago. However, if you are Jeanne store yourself. We would love to hear it. So please contact us with it will tell you how to get in touch with us at the end of the show, but let's travel to south africa A riddle me this, nor have you ever heard of twenty togo loescher now I have that it's fun to say that I can only tell you that This was unfamiliar to me and I think a lot of the allied we'll find over these two episodes are gonna, be anything We are to have a lot of people in the west. Like you myself, so the talk alone, also known as the technology is this diminutive.

really sure Harry south african demon that apparently can function as a kind of hit man you contact a an evil. Practitioner, the spiritual arts which might be called the witch doctor and Then they will build. This thing take revenge on your enemies. It's like it's a war her sprite, it's tough to catch could be, can be invisible ever renders itself invisible by drinking water or by swallowing a stone, and we actually a research found maybe more of a mundane explanation for them, they comes from bantu folklore as away

We have explaining why people seem to inexplicably die while sleeping at night correct and that's because traditionally folks in this part of the world, live in kind of stone yurts. I guess, like a you, might think of a state park, for you know, glamping nutritionally folks. There would sleep on the floor on these woven grass mats that would circle a wooden fire pit in the center of the of the yurt. That would, of course, warm them during the very, very, very cold winter nights. In this terrain, the ces, this part of the country can get quite cold at night and so for a long time. Folks realized that the fire, was in fact messing with the levels of oxygen and causing carbon monoxide. Think of it as like running a car in a in a garage, you know or something like that or just

what can happen if a fire patterns in your home and that's all we have carbon monoxide detectors, because it literally does replace the breathable oxygen. with carbon monoxide, and you can. You can breathe that, and you won't really know the difference until you kind of your party, just shuts down the same is like suffocating or drowning, because I think it's ease you're too now realize. What's going on ripen yeah, exactly as you are unconscious, so you may simply go to sleep and not wake up. It's very scary thing, but is also a very real thing. So again, people wanted to explain what was happening eventually. They realize that if you happen to fall asleep in an elevated position, wouldn't be in danger from this cursor these attacks, because As we know, as you explained, when you are prone, on the ground? You were your head is in that

air that, like layer of carbon monoxide- but when you sleep in in say a sitting position of some sort. Then you're still breathing oxygen. So this story came about saying that there was a short supernatural entity about Yea high me we're not evil pie. Castrate Nelson just picture me pointing to me. About his heisman average persons hip, and I couldn't get you if you're Dad or you're sleeping area was elevated high enough, there was by the way, one silly kind of silly enough not safe for work. Detail that I had found, which was some rumors said that the talk lo, she was pretty. Well endowed for its size. and one where we take revenge on people is targeting there.

Wives and then the wife would become, or the spouse or significant other would become embroiled. Ah yes in adulterous relationship, and that would be the biggest revenge but Usually, the idea was that they talk a little shit would be set upon someone to kill them and we're not zulus yulka speaker, so forgive our pronunciation here, but we found some grisly d. tales about how these creatures are created or summoned. Yet I also say that a quick google of of Ok I'll show you that there are quite a few. What appear to be pretty b or sea level movies. Oh yeah about, took a look at what is one from the sixties. Does g rate It looks like it kind of like more of like a like a children's film. I lose pretty key with as one called toko lo J, the calling and just the game. You can tell by the cover alone that it's

absolute trash and then another one there's just called the togo low, J and other tagline is as she goes. It follows that has got like little girl in the hallway and some spooky finger. Reaching out, but it just looks like the worst gonna seizure. I've ever seen, yeah. You know the the whole well endowed bit is interesting too. There's a I'm sorry. I keep calling the pop culture. Rabbit holes, but so I am realizing so much of this stuff is fodder for like science, and like an old as well horror as well. Of course, there is a sound means that means Zaki, but it's a studio, jubilee movie called pump cocoa, and it's about these. These but ass the year, these lay gun. I would he continues, eight shaped shifting tanuki and they all have giant testicles but they do not shy away from at all in the kids, animated movies and I think even use it as a superpower in some parts can generate like a net or the tea

Is it to catch the wind and make him like windsurfing on their giant testicles, I wonder if that's any. Nowadays between these two creatures on the these. These guys, and these guys also why surrounded and cut back up and in the elves but leads nuke in pogo. They also sabotaged construction sites. I forests printed projector forest in their habitat Yes, some of these details about these summoning, or are you now calling of the local loescher our little a little chilling we ve got some one come in kind of contacting a witch doctor We know that that is a loaded term. We of course think the alvin and the chipmunk song. You know I called the witch doctor like you. You are tat while Walla walla may, all very A broad borderline offensive, Eric insurers of you now island

folks and in this sort of idea the sort of four of santa Maria and all that stuff and very me now cut cartoonish lee rendered. So let us leave it. from which doktor in and of itself, I'm sure there's a better name like in there. I believe that a broom This is one name for them like a movie worthy acts, as a tiny differ once a wish doktor is in and of itself a little weird. But we are talking all of it in general terms, so they are contacted. They are hired also, this idea of them being like inherently evil. Somehow is into a lot of these. These depictions, which I dunno. I don't want to hire anybody. Evil lumps going to be a monkey's, paw kind of scenario. Well, yes, sometimes, and there very much is one here like sometimes you know, if you're thinking of a spiritual practitioner in this tradition, there will be healers right. People who banish eve spirits and bad vibes, and then on the other side, there will be more of a left hand path. They were called

in some european magic. belief systems and that's very much the sith lord stuff, He had not. All these practitioners are the same by any means, but it the stories you reach out, Do this bad actor spiritual practitioner and you the quiet are seeking. Revenge. You pay them. maybe with maybe with money, maybe with some other things right. Their things have value, but them Anything you have to pay in the story is the problem Of the soul of a loved one with a variant kaweah. You do not get to choose which love, when will be taken the talk alone hey itself decides win and how it will. take that soul and they decide who they're going to get yeah. These are all again like these are very devil's bargain kind of situations where it did a for that fail. You know you go to one of these things and, as a last resort, because me

He heard the naked like really do crazy stuff and they could get you europe engineer so blinded by the need to enact whatever this revenge or to solve this problem might be that you don't think about the fact that this is ultimately going to come back on you. I mean it really is like the ultimate kind of monkey's paw situation and it's pretty grisly the creation process according to the law, this practitioner once deal, is made and you have. Your covenant will prove or from somewhere a dead body dead, human body piercing eyes sockets in the brain, with a hot iron ride the logic here in this removes the ability of the human spirit to think for itself. Thus, then they'll sprinkle, the corpse with a man powder, the cause is the thing to shrink. The total oshea will then pay ass. The body it will now, revenge against the target and you will

never know when your part of the bargain comes. Do they took a low show me take its payment a few weeks later. Or a few months later or even years after the fact it will take, soul of a loved one. So it's heavy stuff to mess with a guess. You really have to want that revenge. But it is something that is still report We believed in communities in this part of the world. Although I should say again with with many, these stories that we're talking about a lot of these leaves are kind of on the decline in this forum on their way out demographics. You will see that a lot of younger folks, don't don't really by to these concepts. But a lot of older folks, janet we do still even them, and I'm saying that to set us up for for next week, which we talked about than are met over stuff, which is not so much. entity as it is in action and intention and protection,

from that action or intention. It can be a little confusing to people but you definitely heard of it before nausea. The evil myths ray is its new cause. You I'm idiot if anyone's ever been say, like a latin kind of market, or you know even like an asian asian market or like a bizarre like in another country, if you're traveling and you are like to see trinkets Amy led sir rings or lino pendency whatever depicting this like blue kind of crystal in a flat circle, with an eye drawn in the middle east, and in fact it is now an emergency. If you try evil eye on your iphone you'll get the exact image and there's another one that comes a little more from a believe: Islam, the sort of a hand. and with some fingers folded and let the icon in the centre of an that one also comes out, and it is this concept of protecting yourself against

someone who is looking upon you with a covetous nature maybe not necessarily cursing ye or wishing you did death or misfortune, but just the very act of like boy if you are in a position of success, brahmins, you can illicit, a lot of this kind of negative energy and evil eye or The tsar is, in fact, a a better dallying or a kind of an item that protects against that but even though use another here, the thing itself, the image the icon referred to as the evil. I it's actually a bay protective artifact are protected symbol. It is not the leave lie itself. It's a sort of a term. It's sort of use to describe the thing by the thing that they protect against

yeah. What you'll see about this when what I think is so fascinating about the idea of this curse. Is that it is so very a widespread and very old. I believe the the first documented evidence of the evil eye comes from under it, the ancient city of modern day, syria, it was around until was destroyed and twelve fifty bc during the bronze age collapse check out our episode on that. So we know this is even older, you'll find versions of it turkey and greece in the arab world, even in japan. It occurs in jewish literature it's in ITALY, it's it's nuts, what we can learn from this is that people have, haiti on each other and can earned about haters since before people learn to write step. Yeah really is a kind part of the human condition. Is someone get

something inevitably and other persons gonna look at. Why? What that person has a day you now he might well get murdered for that thing you now have it taken from you and you know right there in the street, because it just wasn't there weren't genus systems in place to protect people from from stuff, like that. It really was kind of like the survival of the fittest. This image, though, specifically even with the blue pigmentation, goes back to ancient egypt. The eye of horace is a symbol that we all may be well familiar with its got. This kind of with a really dope kind of like brow thing protruding from the top, and then this like awesome. Little kind of curly q, kind of golan ratio thing pop it off the bottom and that was buried with pharaoh's to protect them

in the afterlife and then we even have a really great article on bbc dot com about the history of this thing by a guy named quinn, hard gets, and he goes to kind of the history of the thing in the finnish fastening as each day parallel thinking across these cultures that you talk about? It's not like one necessarily bar from another, this sort of kind seemed to pop up. You know said by oceans, and you know it in the similar way that there are certain gods, indifferent, pantheons, the kind of mimic each other's functions, because you know everyone needs to grow crops. Everyone needs to survive. Everyone needs to be bert I'll or whatever. So it makes sense. There would be a stand in deity with similar ability easy now, even if we are folks had never heard of Horace, sir, or heard of the zoo, sir, have festus get me in I think that's understandable, because people

and to have the same concerns the fancy word for what the evil I as a person deciduous is apple, true, paying magic, protective magic, the type of stuff it's meant to turn away harm or evil influences also make sense that people are speaking through their cultural framework to there. yeah really common experiences. Everybody has the same hardware, you can we paid a lot with your eyes. You know I so, of course people would be preoccupied with things like hand. Things like eyes. You know what I mean: there's way less emphasis on things think about as much like the elbow. Also. You know, of course, noon and scientific circles as the wieners super scientific term, no one's ever, question that or has every question that the thing that's so interesting too, is that if I'd forgotten about this, the blue pigment or the blue color,

link may date back to the greeks. The idea that those with blue eyes were better at transmitting visa curses yeah. I was a rare I pigment at the time and in that part of the world, yeah, I'm blue eyes in general, as we recognise and day come from like an ancient mutation in Estonia or something it is fascinating, eyes were there too, but they were sort of the pepsi to the coke blue as were were the way to go and yo yo you shouldn't be surprised. If you see stuff like this, like you were discussed, let me know if you see stuff like this in the mall during the day- and I remember we're talking about this previously- one of those folks- working with was asking us We would

are. We would rock this charm, and my idea was that, if I avoid convinced, I needed some aperture pack, magic and I needed an evil. I then it would be like my first tattoo one big evil eye on the chest and I'm a second tattoo another one on the back burner. Deliver clia cover the basis how exactly really as is, is a fascinating subjects. Because of a lot of a bit of the way we see it spreading throughout cultures, Plutarch who was a very you know, learned demand and in ancient greek culture I was a philosopher, and have been an historian is why them into two degree. He wrote the symposium acts in which he you know would espoused kind of the best, if one of science and they can kind of muster at the time and one of them was the one that makes sense done about this at the thing that we get the idea that the eyes are. Such an important part of of the of the human body

functionally but also spiritually, need. I say things like the the window to the soul ass. You can look, anna window kay. I also put stuff. Of a window and the aid here the eyes are aware, the evil kind of Jeez can transmitted plutarch literally believed they were like invisible, raise like of energy. That could, if, if made potent enough harness harnessed correctly actually kisses was coming from this article bbc killed children or small animals yeah yeah, basically plutonic argued that so people like cyclops from the x men and they laser audio sooner mary, I mean you drove him see and superpowers are or ordeal answer. You know, folks, with kind of their worldly abilities to be able to show fire lasers. Out of your eyes, you know and the

aids and borders. A plea dark was not alone in this, of course, play to plenty, the elder. Many many people believed in this and continue to do so today. So, If you see somebody doing that, then don't if me a hard time respect their beliefs, and I honestly boys of the mind that if someone is doing something that they see as a protective measure- and it's not hurting you are impacting you in any way, then you know don't get their young, it is important to then be respectful. I do think it's funny to how somebody like a penta, gram or a tentacle is meant to be a protective sigil, but is off incorrectly associated with, like Devil worshipper. Seeing as the opposite as Let's try to cast a spell to hurt somebody or represent the the malice, the militias kind of intent that the evil I might

But what it actually is meant to do is to protect you from these kind of negative energy issue and, of course there the evil. I hand sign you'll have to check that out of we're on youtube through this part euro. Nor, I think at this point we ve talked about. some things that can be genuinely frightening for people and we talk that ain't. Practices in the modern day, but what if we today's episode. By taking a take, it will break to toss some evil eye protections and looking into a more modern thing that goes bump in the night? I it's bethany frank all my time. Then we'll housewives of new york is a few years behind, and now I'm ready to put the wheel back into the real housewives. That's grammar

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We talked about this previously actually checked off air to see if our power mission control had heard of it and Paul. You confirm that you had one might surprise peoples. This belief was prevalent in the early two thousands which wasn't too long ago I mean in twenty years ago now, but not too two long ago, I was real, really got a lot of attention in south korea as well as parts of japan, and we talked a bit about out why people thought this would be dangerous to be clear. They didn't think I was demonic possession they didn't taking it was some sort of curse. The thought there was a scientific explanation for We're why leaving affair at night would kill you yet Weird man, there's a couple I thank my vivre. One I think is- is slicing the molecule, as chairman of the ice molly, sharpening chapman em up making too small to be functional.

Aye aye editor, but no aid. It is, I think, perhaps a combination is sort of like new technology or that new technology, but there's sort of like a fear of change and part of the country. Where are things I think, maybe, where had been typically a little more analog in terms of this kind of stuff, although it is funny that you know you don't hear about this fear associated with ceiling fans as much specifically these like portable plug in standing fans and when you first brought this topic up at I hear standing fans and immediately thinking of like are those like standing stones. Are these some sort of, like weird marker of druidical ritual or what are we talking here? but now were literally talking about like a tripod kind of like caged van yeah yeah, I know I agree. The role of new technology had a player, a sociological part here like through some of the other theories, one Concern was found in hypothermia, so long

very short of your human being when you go to sleep, your metabolism surely slows down a bit, so people would argue that as the air blowing on a sleeping person, could sensibly cool them a little at combined with a slower metabolism, could lower your body temperature. In the point that your organs fail. Both for we do a little myth busting with that when the next one is carbon dioxide. Poisoning ripe, similar to What was actually happening with with people in south africa. The idea here is that the fan admits these chemicals, while the motor runs in a close room and its love carbon slowly as anybody asleep there. So those are big explanations? I also think the one about a fan, mutilating oxygen molecules is the most interesting because we live.

in a southern part of the united states, where it gets very hot and I've never had a standing fan that depth effective. You know this so, if there was one I will buy, it is when saying this then why, like it's strange, the first reports date back to the nineteen twenties, but they really take off till the seventies, and there may have even been a little bit of a conspiracy of foot which will we get to the end. But we know that people are Joe concerned whether or not you agree with so idea. People were so concerns that a government agency, the korea consumer protection board issued a safety alert about it in two thousand and six, and they said your exposed to fans or air conditioners for too long, you will lose water. You begin to have hypothermia. You can die from this carbon dioxide saturation and a claim that from two thousand three two thousand five at least twenty

people died as a result of this, but there's more to this story, I mean we have to we have to first. I say again get really in the south. We know this all too well an electric, and doesn't really chill the air it just moves it around. That's why? If you've ever had a job in like a hot kitchen or warehouse, you've just been in a place without ac you eventually notice the fan is just kind of making a breeze, but if the Aristotle, really hot debris, this is gonna be hot to it doesn't do that much else. we'll hypothermia. If you, if you look at the temperature that required for organ Failure to come in there is no way that a fan is gonna, get your body to that level. You have to drop your internal tap addressed to drop it

Oh eight, six degrees, Fahrenheit or thirty degrees celsius, and I think the main thing one thing that stop with both are all of us man well from a production standpoint is most home. they're, not air, tight like across the world there, not certainly nine of the cause. Suffocation, imagined expensive. It is to build just one room like that, let alone an entire house. What kind of doors do you have? after having airlock at that point. Why then do we know how difficult it is from lady doing stuff in studios to you now feel a room so that sound as an escape and sound travels on air so room to agree completely lack hermetically sealed like that, would not come with just like standard you now corruption, especially maybe in a part of the country where things are even less tightly, sealed to a degree like certain homes in maybe more rural parts of asian countries might have more traditional

like all school features like minimum would more more would design or, like would paneling are perhaps rice paper for for windows in panel some things like them here I mean Aruba, yes, but the only fans that I've ever been real, really concerned about, I've been the like old enough three old style. Steel blade fans- if they don't have that wire cover and then I'll be honest. You know they ve paranoid, dude, junkie, ceiling, fair that a link that appeared in the pendulum kind of thing when, as a perfect, let me look at makes your minds off europe nobody's seen those in the house, the ones that kind of swing other little rhythm imbibing. You have to wonder how long it is before they decide to take off the ground. The good news is nowadays, most people don't believe this myth, but for some

remains a better safe than sorry situation. You could say: look I'm not a crazy paranoid sin, but just in case let me leave the door ajar and this is where we get to the consumer you were, I think we and our episode today, we and in our research that there are some pretty I won't see airtight her So pretty compelling theories that the government of south korea, at least may have helped spread the myth a little bit as away combating skyrocketing energy use during the very hot humid summers in that country in that part of the world. So there we have it. There's no proof of anyone actually experiencing fan death, it's easy to understand why some people decided to play it safe and maybe to this day. Won't trust a fan at night, and no here we have to we have to call it a day, will be back in just a few with part to this.

We're gonna have even more modern weird, examples. We had one that Matt's really into called the one who'll, no spoilers yeah, that's a fun one and the night dancers. Of course, we've gotta go to the philippines. With the I swung and, of course, the white lady, but in the meantime note I think we do. I think we should ask our fellow conspiracy realists if there are any genuine beliefs in monsters in their neck and the global. What's absolutely I'd love to hear what some of the the myths and store is around where you live might be or if, in fact, there are ones that people generally We steer clear of certain parts of the woods to avoid because they think there is some truth to them. Let us know you can. reach out to be a social media where we are conspiracy, stuff

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