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what you ve returned, but witches we're going to imagine. Well what, if I truly believed that this was true and also what, if I believe, It is completely hogwash. What, if, mother was a which then you would be part which right have you pretty sweet. It's like that old mister showed yoke where they find out that somebody's poor old through. While we talk about stuff would be often things are covered in the fringes of mainstream society. We talk about mysteries, legalised lamb. We talk about allegations of the paranormal government cover ups? We talk about, in short, a lot of things that people would have. You believe, are conspiracy theories. I love that move by the thanks man, that's years

no, you made it now, but I'm giving it to you as the people's either word comes to. My, for me, I hope is, is not a reach, but his measured you now. I feel we try to see, but sides of an issue or story or whatever you want to call it and try to ourselves in the shoes of people on both sides of an argument and we have a lot of fun. We want to understand like that guides dome precept tempered reason: temporary go! Oh, so we ve, we ve, looked at some very, very strange stuff, whether or not he believe aspects of true or or whether we believe the false in an alley. Behind the curtain here folks no in that, and I know always agree, not something you know which is hopefully someday good for the show. We are friends we do actually hang out outside of this.

Studio? You say that like people don't believe, I know that I think I have a mandatory meet up right. It's a mandatory morale? but no than today's topic is is is: is a doozy fringy, fringy doozy, one thing there We had so many emails and tweets and letters about or people will find us in a bar and ask to do something about is lizard people, we never covered it. We ve never covered lizard people. What what belief here. What do we mean when we say this It's the belief that the controllers of this world- you can call them. Anything you like the Illuminati Shore is go a good go too. Will there Finally, a Group of shape, shifting reptilian humanoids, let's call them

Babylonian Brotherhood, who are propelling humanity towards this glow? bull, fascist state of control over every aspect of the entire planet, though, is that all yeah, and you know it's called the new world. You may have heard of it to wrestling thing. Yeah Let us who yet you probably heard of this. No we're we're very fortunate to have Very diverse group of people- listen to this show so are you listening right now? Probably can did do yourself are in the war sceptics, so you consider yourselves you having insight. That alone, the rest of the world either ignores brainwashed into not believing the point is no matter where you find yourself following on that kind of fun, I or that spectrum. You are probably

heard of someone saying of the lizard people phrase Usually, to try to discredit another conspiracy theory, so someone a few years, GO is saying. Well, I think that there are some pretty I've been to corruption in federal level, Department of Justice, stuff right, or I think that just be see a user example. The time is running money for drug cartels and it never easy. Yet, in the media there like Hoeyer hours, tinfoil at listen, that's an international bank right, not some kind of criminal organization, you, I bet, you believe in lizard people to write Likud, this GMO cables and lizard people and ask that That's an effort to diminish or, credit, the validity of unrelated claim and that's where a lot of you. Here stuff, like the lizard people theory,

I mean, let's be honest- it. It sounds pretty crazy it does indeed so weird the idea come from arrogance Now that I'm tv many series is actually remade is called be yes, I've seen both incarnations, don't you feel it that's her on this subject a little bit yeah yeah It's it's interesting because that's. The gravity and its basically about an invading force of lizard, reptilian aliens whom, where human, skin and more or less in full, society at their benevolent people know their aliens, but they, where human skin make us feel better yet make us feel better and thereafter the water. I think it's the water thereafter do remember. No

It is the water. Yet why do some lie when they have no idea how precious resources, but the the myth? The troop of blizzard people are serpent men, is even older than that. The first appearance it I found of so while the serpent men was from this piece of literature called the shadow kingdom, which was a story written by Robert E Howard, which was put Weird tales in night in twenty nine and this guy Howard. By the way he is known for creating Conan the Barbarian, which is pretty cool. Weird tales by the way, but think you ve got me under some of this stuff of these old sites fiction, short stories collections of stories. Yes, that is one of best examples. The shadow kingdom is one of the best examples of modern, sir.

Manner abrasive serpent men. I we have earlier mythological examples that are usually deity of some sort and their rep I wish you know like gap. There is, for instance, a half man, half snake king of Athens. You know, there's a There really creative ones like typhoon, Father of all met monsters in greek mythology from the waste up he's a dude waste down, he's a massive seeding vipers. So we have this melding of the male and reptilian things when it makes because the dominant of animal on this planet. Before humans, round before mammals came around were reptiles rate. And then there is the other idea. There's the very. Very strange idea, came about in the eightys as well right yeah

ready to a curator the National Museum of Canada in Ottawa, a deal a rustle proposed, that is, dinosaur, genus trow it on which is a relatively small group of creepy bird, like dinosaurs, guest because what my bird aversion? Oh, yes, we are aware that the more and more people are starts talking about how dinosaurs were probably all birds that were like glad. They good job comment I don't want him, don't Needham anywhere levers out there. I feel for you, you be you, I'm going to steer clear anyway. So, if that small group of creepy birdie, dinosaurs had not been eliminated six five million years ago. In theory, it could have over there, period of time evolved into ache, ass of intelligent by people humanoid with a body shape some two human beings. Well, and of course this was just a thought experiment, or was it So a lot of his colleagues and people who worked in the same

with him thought that Mr Rustlers just wrong? Mr Daily Russell was wrong because their thing they would have involved evolved in similar way that it exists currently or at the time it existed, where it was still walking. On two legs, but it was hunched over you know like, Ninety degree angle that shows dinosaurs are in any sort of use. Snout to do more. There's really blame appendage, yet it just would have been smart well, this this is interesting, does it shows people have been thinking about this. For a long time in their there is There is a group of people will talk about this in detail, in the modern day. I believe that the world is vampires into drank half my questions. Some pumpkins sitting near at hand, is sitting here. Ok, but they were. They believed that the the world is to some degree controlled by this hidden cabal or who are either possessed by a spirit

not entirely human. Today. The person most closely associated with this belief. The man named David Ike, and he is the subject of today's show. You probably heard of David. I could May you, you may have heard of him, but not new ways about is very strong. Character. You can find him on Youtube. Now he's around yeah he's got an active twitter. He is I actually was kind of surprised. He is a very anti trump guy. Yes, I saw like condemned to a sort of an Alex Jones figure in a way, in my mind, But as I started digging more into his backstory in his biography, while they do have similar thought processes, say, couldn't be more different, ideologically yeah. They

there. There are a lot of things that they fundamentally disagree upon: David Ike, sporting nineteen, fifty two on April, twenty nine- and he was in the beginning of her Beginning footballer so arose Yanks. That means whose just of professional soccer player and Ninety nine days or so he's made his name as a professional. Conspiracy theories. That's what All the mainstream will call them his own free, in hue describes himself as a full time investigator into who and what is really controlling the world. So how do we get there? The answer the tell d are too long didn't read about. It is ultimately arthritis and that's weird, but that's where it starts, or writers ended his career as a professional footballer. Then in eighteen. Seventy three. He got a job as Rapporteur with

local weekly paper and then moved on and eventually did work with BBC Radio as their soccer reporter their football. Reporter then his way up until he was working in rate, he's a sports broadcasters, journalist and so for the beginning of his career in the public sphere. He was not known as a conspiracy dearest court on quote at all, but then something happened. We go back to that pesky arthritis and in the nineteen eighties, heed looking for a way to treat as our right right. So he looked to alternative met, and, as you do, if you're not getting pain relief from the current established medicine should it happens, allowed people do this. Well, this led him to the ground. Party, like the Ralph NATO, green birdie, the essential yes picks up this time, not in the United States. Now he became

prominent amongst that Green party people were calling him. The Tony Blair of his party, pretty cool, yeah ends and instead of one one head personally have four principles: speakers he began to attend high profile since is advocating for you, no Green party issues like environmental stuff and and human rights, but spider success. He was seen immense personal problems so arthritis was in debts of despair and he began to feel what he described as a presence around him. According to age, he was in a hotel room in March of night Ninety and finally, that up with all of these mounting problems and troubles and emotional Concerns pain, but he was an he exclaimed, to the universe Is there anybody here? Will you please

contact me because you are driving me up. The wall quote input and then a response came before the moon or go to sleep of the universe and mysterious, indeed as well as neighbours we're getting about that part. But the truth we as according to his account a few later he heard a voice guide him toward some books. One of these books was called mind to mind written by a self professed psychic healer named Betty shying. He read this book and he wrote to eventually requesting a meeting on the subject of his arthritis. They got on. He Visited shine several times, there was one meeting in March of ninety ninety, where he says you something like a spider's web on his face and shit. Told him that that meant she had a message

from someone named Wang E Lee of the Spirit World TAT seems like a bit of a when YE leap. To me away a quantum leap. It really tough, but here was the message. David? I guess he was no ordinary former footballer, no ordinary sports journalist. He had been sent to heal the earth. She said Shine said Emily become famous but would face opposition the speed. World was going to pass ideas to him, which he would speak about two others. He would write five books and years. In twenty years, new flying machine would allow people to go wherever they wanted in time would have no meaning, though the earth weeks, an unusual places because the earth was being destabilized by the resource extraction oil specifically, so things escalated, kind of quickly there in a in February of ninety ninety one. He visited a pre inking burial ground in Peru and he fell drawn to protect

circle of waste high stones. A new city was struck with two thoughts. The people would be talking about this in a hundred years and that it whatever it was, would be over when it rains body, he writes his body Shokhin, all these ideas poured into them and then rain started and needs periods ended, and so he felt that this triggered a higher level of consciousness. Dude If only some like that would happen to me, haven't you know yet dinner ETA the revelation not like that network rain is involved and, like my body, is visit responding to some kind energy three times this week from what now lightning like like was it? Why see the cinders on the hoodie? I just feel like a few. See somebody violently shaking. Then you should help right. There,

Well, especially, if your amid, why waste high stones in a special like holy Place, that is deciding who will let's be fair to this is also in many ways. This is a revelation of inner event Gazelle yes, and it would be there too, say that somebody is I I'm very hesitant to cast doubt earth version somebody's. In our belief in I'm. Certainly no, I agree, and I am now I don't mean to cast doubt on it in that way. I just mean it's an incredible thing and you ve never even argue avenue experience yes, but I want to. We can probably painted like that. I'm sure I can be no save up. One of my by weekly revenues for you are. I am so in Spain. By this in this higher plane of consciousness,

I want to emphasise that we are. We are giving information here without telling you all. We think it's true or not, and this is his account so David, began to where almost exclusively turquoise also fell had been channeling for some time and he received a message automatic writing autumn in writing, for new one is unfamiliar, is win, No, no other matter. I would take pen in paper, Even you know my typewriter or something have ourselves guided by some other worldly presence to create messages yeah. We would essentially be another extension of the pen, the pencil, but the author would be something else just sort of

using us as an instrument. The other ideas you put the pen to the paper or the fingers, the typewriter and you just go and whatever happens happens, you don't look at it. You don't racked of Lee train right something, and this is This is very important because for people who would believe this war for Ike, then it the stuff that arise ya. Automatic writing is not his idea. That's very. Very born. It's not him. It's something telling him suddenly. So what he the automatic writing was this message he was in this is another quote: a son of the God head. And in ninety ninety one he resigned from the Green Party and he told them he was about to be. The centre of a tremendous and increasing controversy. Now the members of the party to be fair did not know maybe what he was talking about, perhaps they thought he was going to take a country Sure hard line

stand on an environmental issue or something something. And all and his love life, or something like that, yeah yeah Lee could have been any down. You know because stakes are high at that level of politics, but we'll admired him and he was met with standing ovation a week later he holds a press conference where he makes the announcement I am the Son of God, head. And that is not an announcement that goes over. Easily for a lot of people and that's the only. You said. Furthermore, he said he He disclosed several other predictions that had arrived. Him be automatic writing stuff, like the word going to end in ninety ninety seven, there the hurricanes in the Gulf of Mexico in New Orleans eruptions in Cuba, disruption in China and then

Wait on the Isle of Man. Allay will become an island, New Zealand. New Zealand will disappear and of more things. This attracted, as you can imagine, a lot of attention and I was actually invited to various interviews and one of them. The prime time talk show on BBC. Who's gonna on a show called woken on April. Twenty, ninth. Ninety. Ninety one- and this was the most damaging- this was another fulcrum, another crucible. For David, like the others, is still to watch. You can pull up a clip of it if you want. And this is Fourthly, what happened so woke and introduce the nineteen anyone segment with quote the world. As we know it is about to end at night laboratory, standing at all and David I'll comes out wearing a turquoise jump through. Drowning turquoise, and yet they call the shells-

turns out, though the host was, was poking little fun at our boy, David Ike, the audience responded in kind with uproarious, laughter and Ike, sort of hedged around the question of whether or not he was the son of God replying the Jesus would have been laughed at two and then that Britain would soon be devastated by tidal waves and earthquakes, and you can really feel in the rather interview, we feel grab it, and you can feel that David Ike seems too really believe, at least when I'm watching it any interviewers, hostile, yeah, very much soon, parade em around like a buffoon like right, leg meant to be the subject of derision, now ridicule again on the same coin, though it sound crazy? it does seem like that's the reaction you should have as a journalist or what you know may present her of a thing there enough, but its opportunistic at best take

true believer like that and and parade them around and make them look for she's exploiting its really really feel. It's a very hurtful thing to watch. However, you feel about this man, his opinions yet I think, is very fair thing to say, and so I was surviving through this interview. Any said laughter was the best way to remove negativity, the interview cap, you know bullying and said, but they're laughing at you now not laughing with you and This was devastating for the guy The BBC was even criticized for allowing it to go on which, as you know, a point that I think they felt the same way that you point out, which was the point about exploitation, so I disappeared from public. Wife it- was the talk of the newspapers at the time. This is back when all people- you read newspapers and It's called a media crucifixion in I

a hundred percent on this or whether this now that was sincere or whether it was meant to be ironic, in which case it would be a form of bullying and may have ninety. Ninety one police were called to Ike's home because a crowd of A hundred people were outside chanting. We were the Messiah and give us a sign David fee. This is a known person right in the public sphere, who goes on a show and makes this big announcement than a month later. You have young people who are either hungry. For you know something like to be true, and especially someone they look up to, I can imagine them being sincere. They younger people out there doing that will also yeah. They were younger people who were youth. Youth has their described. Also, kids can be me.

But there I re. This was another crucial tipping point. Here we had once a respected mainstream media figure. Now he was set upon this path to become ultimately one of the world's most well known fringe comment Peters otherwise, known as conspiracy theorist. But when we talk about this we ve okay, so we ve looked at the path that this that this guy and the realisation see feels like he had the young. The way the mainstream media tree get over the waited. His various treated him? What what? What does I actually believe what is his stuff that so crazy? What's going on with this lizard people thing we'll find out right, afterward from our sponsor

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If you originally derived it from a guy named Zacharias stitching Someone else named gruesome, Zulu cradle Mutawa Mouth bonus points for the pronunciation. Well, we'll see good luck, googling that one guys all right. I will put it our social media for anybody's. Looking for the spelling according to Ike bees Chileans are tall blood drinking sheep, shifting refilling humanoids, The alpha draconian star system, there now hiding in underground basis and in plain sight, in plain sight, similar away too. I ve the series vs nor mentioned or two. What would have films, they live John Carpenter. Nineteen. Eighty eight son does very impassioned marathon grew angry at me for it now you go The sun was yeah, guess your bed net

just seen, although they live means pop around now with the current administration. Why there's knew they live means having just ones like with you now Galleon Conway and you know some of the spokespeople as the creature. See I kind of like doing like a liquor flash than they ve cheer. I cannot let you like. I saw one with Hillary Clinton John predestined to but I'm sure, you're the Kashmir on that one, I'm a huge I'm, a huge fan of the UN. They live names and also for everyone. No one. I took a second during our outbreak too, to hip met the cash me outside I had never seen it had never heard of it about Andy Soup, so Ike's I did

eggs belief is that most of the world's leaders are related to these creatures. These being so, he said no George, W Bush other former presidents, of course, and I Queen Elizabeth, the second of the United Kingdom. These things These have supporters, not the forty seven countries and he's giving lectures long lectures, which is famous for two crowds of thousands of people and hears I found an interesting pull. It says: just to voters in the: U S, four per cent of the poor, Listen of the? U S? Population registered voters, agree with David Ike. They say. Well, things are already so strange, minor reptilian Why you know why? Why not, and I wonder how many of those you it's tough to ascribe motive like how many of those people were,

ironically, dare I say Dick usually forges, had no idea what it was right, yeah, it's what I mean. That's tough to account for about those kinds of numbers. And so one of the things you may have heard we buried. The lead here is the idea of sheep shifting yes, because like we said, these reptilian can hide in plain sight. According to David Ike theory, video evidence that he points do of people. Sheep, shifting and When you look at this evidence in me, opinion as a video editor, what I see more art affecting in the videos, much like some of glittering video stuff you ve been working on know where it's pieces, of an image that then meld into the pixels of the next images that are coming up. Sixty years ago, daddy and Barney Help claimed they were abducted by aliens

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on apple contents or wherever you get your podcast. Sometimes it happens not on purpose if you're doing some kind alive broadcast, was video, sometimes those change it and with can get choked me now and that good things happen. So that's what I see when he started well shaped shifting. What David, I believe you seeing is a human of light. Almost peeling away the the human part to see either reptilian eyes, reptilian teeth or sometimes in the cheeks, or the entire face. Looked reptiles in strange. That's a big thing we do just want to bring them back again, and that is what they do. They literally have these human masks and they peel them off and they reveal their reptilian true forms so rather than explaining what David Ike believe

About sheep shifting reptilian we're just gonna play a clip from a video called how sheep shifting works. That's posted on David Ike's Youtube not on how stuff works, icon correct. One of the hardest things that people have to understand and I completely appreciate it is this idea of shapes if they know it's an ancient, it's an ancient, being in terms of accounts all over the world. But a shape shifting between human and rectifying shape, shifting between human and many different forms, animal forms, etc. People perceive it because we so locked into this. This reality is real eyes like a uber physical, solid, human

Eddie, transforming into a solid reptilian body and then back again gives us both people all over the world. Vast numbers now who have seen this phenomenon of seeing someone a human, suddenly transformative, reptilian figure and then come back again and the ancients accounts talk about the same thing and people think it's impossible night. How could you? How can a body change it to another body? I mean the personal die. Wouldn't I well. That's not what's happening the only place that the physical reptilian form and the physical human form exist is in here when their energy, form is decoded into a holographic, apparently physical form. So when something shaped shifting it shifts in the decoding mechanism by which we decode different energy, fails its literally like

and you get television channel. So it's it's a dick! Isn't that a coating the shape shifting takes place because there is no physical form out there. It's in areas where it all goes on. Ok, so that's for me. Tough to wrap my head around The idea of our brains are constantly decoding. The energy messages that are coming to the end fields around us, which is true with light goes in your eye? Were your brain is telling you what is the best known and unknown browner sitting in front of me same thing with everything we hear and touch and tastes Oliver senses ass soon ass? The argument that making or the position that he appears to be taking here. Is that the the anti to the object of regard, what others since the perceived is the same. It doesn't it. We challenge

changes were the sheep appears to shift. Is that because of me change in the perception perception abilities of the brain right. Yes, but in this case a lot of times we're talking about a video signal which is the next the next interesting part, because if it were a change in person, chairman of the viewer, then Logically, what would follow would be that The three of us could watch the same video and had are perceived ability, shifted, see three different things, yes, and that mean that's interesting proposition and gets into a little bit of philosophy, but it doesn't completely experts in like unless the camera- The recording equipment also experiences some kind of perceptive shift. Then the next question would be

that's, let's assume that happens. The next question would be well eyes it still out there if these people are that powerful. Is you too, like the last bastion of humanity? Yes, I man just talked about it before there is a big difference between don't be evil and be good or that go you're you're right about that. Certainly why would they allowed to be there? Maybe because it seems ridiculous like. Maybe if it is true the way you stop it for me, is by letting people think it Maybe you're one of them. Why mean I've seen my face in a black light and it is truly horrifying, why you fall asleep whenever in the sun? Well, I mean it's cosy. Why do you have that club

weirdly shaped eggs, unshaved ask my baby: don't asthma babies, but this this is getting our attempt to show from perspective? What are you saying, because you, a lot of people, would assume- and I certainly assumed in the beginning before it again. I assume that he meant that people were who, in some like like an throbbing, a similar three like Anthropic, I guess, would be her Panther, be if they're changing into snakes, will he when he goes into discussing why this happening in how it's been happening? He discusses ancient depictions of like entropy. And how we know we ve there are. There are records of human shape, shifting over the years that a written down in all these native languages negative native tongues? So what exactly gives the reptilian people?

gap over humanity, Amy and others. This idea they ve been around for longer, perhaps had more time to evolve. Technologically shows that is that the Bay So what we're talking about here, the idea would be that ties in two ancient mythologies, so, whether its Eric down again or any number of ancient alien typewriters the Argo is, is very similar in the argument there is that the things that were mistaken for deities or gods or Angels or demons were ultimately extra, dimensional or extra trust you're being so sometimes both sometimes both in the argument that Ike is making is that these reptilian were function is what we call the anarchy in Aber make literature, and that and in other myths around the world and that what they were doing was creating

hybrid races of man creating new half lizard half human things, and this ties into something that probably know the most about nets? The three of Us Matt, which is another one of his beliefs, these Saturn COLT Control system. I'll tell you or s Ccs go, tell you I get it of only watched about in our of of upon this. The David Ike has has put out there he's gone. His Youtube Channel on Youtube Channel again, trying to study it as though hunting class or something and my goodness taking notes You go down the rabbit whole quickly when you're watching one of these ships, we play a little snippet sure this the video Saturn isn't what you think it is either The reminder satin, Mayor

to be what it is in all a graphic world that, but actually again it's an information field. It is a consciousness Everything is aware that it has a consciousness of these. It's the sons they consciousness, they have awareness, they are entities in their own right. Saxon is the key. Understanding. So much was: as the old son. It is known in occult, as the old son, the dock son and the dark, nor the Lord of the rings and the ass, if petty drop for me. Whoa the kaleidoscope moved when I to realize that least so many? If not all the aims son gods were not gods of the sun. We know today, but of the setting sun that was focused on before, because it was in a different position I suggest that there are rings that we can see.

There are sound rings that we can see that are coming out across a whip, picking them up they something appear to happen. That does not actually happen. They could induce a virtual reality. Experience the sack, Matrix is, I call it is. A frequency band which we are decoding is a fake reality, and I suggest my view. We will find that the age of that frequency band is what we call the speed of light be You go out of the matrix, ok, so what I'm getting from that is that he believes all these religions secret societies, banking, petitions everything it's all ruled quote Astral equally by sovereign and that these ancient some gods were not actually gods of the sun but of Saturn because Saturn was essentially in a different position.

Simply Saturn Mars and earth were much closer together. They were aligned in some way to wear eclipses looked differently. The our sun, the one we know as a sun interacted differently. This other son that was Saturn. Ah to wrap your head around by then like some of those philosophy classes are used to take in college. And of what he is matching up with symbols. At what you like, as it has been in terms of like rubber, intention, verses, physicality remain like how? Maybe everything we see is just being projected on green. You knows exactly gonna be just like the free kind of, but we you what are you saying that these all of these symbols, they all match up from these ancient civilizations, but they go right up to now. A days would like the great seal of the United States within

nations, their their seal. Other Rothschild family Freemasons, the Catholic Church, even Madonna, when she's performing superbowl half time, shows all about Lena Gaga, I'm sure I'm sure I have not seen anything yet from him about that. Perhaps at Alec chance at its it was an luminary, satanic ritual when he was on the Rogan too, maybe boy he was one why he has work. The euphemism we like to use is charming ass. I was going to say tat the answer. He was a little too charming to drive dude straight up, broad inner dimensional aliens. I never heard him talk about that for a now. It's now, it's out there internet and check that out of fear of your fan of the show you probably enjoy the jewel Rogan shows wells. Furthermore, I'd ask why you haven't checked it out yet because we're we're fans of were fans of that show what are some so there's. The argument is that ultimately, there's a secret religion here, yeah athlete

If so, what are some examples of the symbols that he's come? Oh yeah, the symbols he brings out, there's the crescent Encircle Circle and cross six pointed star, twin pillars, horns of any sort better. Just as a symbol. Spiders black cubes and the numbers, six eight and fifteen in there's, probably twenty others that he goes to enlist in the beginning of the video shows you how they match up with these symbols and how they represented Saturn, and now they continue to represent Saturn but they're, even like the ban We logo with the wings undecided. Case and here's the thing Those symbols- wow, oh well sure, are commonplace, indifferent parts of the world and in different parts of our time line are symbols could stand for a variety of see what I mean I just lake. The swastika you know is, is now

forever in the minds of westerners going to be a symbol of the atrocities, but for thousands of years before it was pretty much force nice, peaceful, again, Buddhism right there. You can find it in Theosophy to the philosophy right now. I will do the audacity We'll do it later. Will they were later related to these, are these are some of his beliefs. These are some of the ones that The world at large would say are the most strange and we from the interview that blood we mentioned are we or from some the clips what most of world or what people call the mainstream media. Think of David. I, but what's that In my opinion, it should a surprise to women.

What who follows the stuff that there are people who consider themselves conspiracy, theories that accused him of being active disinformation, and this is something this middle level. Alex out Jones, as as nor pointed out earlier, is ideologically very, very different in comparison to David Ike, but they both received criticisms, there's no or there's no arguing that Ike has massive support or least massive attention is a prolific author has wishing proceeds alone number in the millions of pounds, which is why some people would say believe. You were saying do honestly believe it or is this some sort of performance to make a buck? forget to that. Like typically the term concerned, see. Fearest is now, have endearment, but one of abuse say no, no one would ever call themselves a conspiracy theories.

It is a diminutive inebriated server takes away from whatever work, you're you're doing right. Ever since ever since the? U S federal government, put out secret documents, this is proof, you can google, it now mean, don't do it if you're, driving or whatever, but they put out, see goodbye. To media media outlets in the wake of the JFK assassination saying is the official story. Anybody violates the official story, make sure to call them a conspiracy theories. That is what began becoming pejorative without NPR. I think At most, we ve called ourselves conspiracy, realist, I've ever, but but yet you actually right now, it's a pejorative than to the majority of the world. David Ike is not taken seriously increase, the painted in as everything cylinder, cynically exploits the credulous plain on their fears and concerns to make cash. To someone who is

genuinely deluded, you know someone who might have would say that he might have a mental problem, but the thing is. She's not always wrong, now dig into that bit after a quick sponsor break yes. Ladies gentlemen, here's where it's crazy rumours are true. There are times when people believe that David, I was correct. Many of his supporters contend that he's been cracked about several different events over the course his conspiratorial or fringe commentators career. One would be people believe that he predicted nine eleven

What he actually said was that there was going to be a disaster in the: U S, sometime in like a two or three years span, so he predict a disaster That's a world away from predicting now eleven or some here too, that specificity right and then like the up what I sometimes while the Nostradamus brought problem even call up a real bad storm disaster RO anything the requires humanitarian aid could be considered a disaster not be specific enough in saying to planes will be hijacked and hit two specific buildings. I you could call like you least favoured artists. Next, album a disaster, the Superbowl was a the super boys. It arise. I dont even care about football and Nelson Awful day. You somebody better one:

five million dollars on the Falcons, apparently the first half of the game they were out there on? three our chat and start talking about how they had it in the bag. Your sanity show. My heart goes out to you what passes for one with my anatomy, other things so there's this Nostradamus brightened this vague prediction: white like her, We define a disaster. Mr, of course, popularly known for he D quatrains, he wrote which depend on how they are translated. That's a big thing purport to predict important. It and it would about it in the past, in previous episodes. Bear red one translation where one quarter was in nineteen Ninety six build your house with wooden sticks for or fire was sweep over. The land. Life will be safe.

Nary a man or something like that. That's from the three little pigs do as we feel pigs. The global aversion, every little pigs in arm again figure, the that's. The point yeah. I read that kid and I was like a wonder: ninety ninety six, Oh man, it's the end, I've never gonna get a shot at anything, I'm not gonna ever like make out or like do cool drugs. Or smuggle anything. You know not that I not there, I'm I'm saying people should go out. Do that's up, but the point is I was credulous sums gullible and this led and there was something that was pretty vague, even if they are true We had some more specific, and so easy for us to think of thing is a specific prediction: if we want it to be so, but again this

the extra twist. If we're looking at is from a matter of our brains, sanctions being the defining characteristic of the world, then does that make it true? Then, if our perception is just changed it's a very it's very different mindset, its placing the the hierarchy In our opinion above our key of the outside world, it led into another Descartes. Corona allegorical Plato, conversation. But the point is there are people who believe who is right about nine eleven their people Emu is right about the holographic universe, theory, which is then that we briefly touch on the show is something you introduced me to met now, just Google Doktor James Gates. That's literally, all you have to do. Doktor James Gates, Junior.

And you ll find all kinds of information about proving through string theory that will not proving yet but getting pretty darn close to it everything in the universe is made up of code. It was written on earth in, like the I forget, when, in the mid nineteen hundreds Ray, TAT the army. Will you know he's It's it's hard to paraphrase this, because I dont understand half of it again we're talking about particle physics, we're talking about super The tree. If work, it's it's, That's beyond my understanding, but this guy does a pretty good job of discussing it in helping you understand so Doktor James Gates is the person who believes that he found computer code in Quantum string says

yes, they went down so far enough into the architecture of reality. To find the builder, blocks in those building blocks were close to computer code. You, so that was written on earth that we note that existed to create a computer, the which you know, begs the question: well, hey, if that's true the new who made that stuff and how our regions and a weird time warp where we were cream it or time loop worry were created than created. Ourselves then created ourselves than created ourselves and that's it first in question, because it ties to the idea of whether the members happened was created yeah they also its. It leads to a very interesting things which have we done enough. So donor holographic universe, we, never episode on german holograms, yellow epicycle way too low incomes out sooner is it bad JAMA Synergy was that

computers! The computer I dont you know we did a video on it, but what we can do is go through an audio version, and I'm just I just found this talk from April of last year at the Zack Asimov Memorial Debate and it was all about. Is the universe a simulation? So I think we can use that and start running. I just figured out how them Mandela effect works. Smart Alec jerks, like me, say something exists as a joke and then will remember the having heard that and then get to a place where they believed that it actually happened done. Me like how New Zealand doesn't exist. Exactly research, guys we're sorry. We made up New Zealand. It was on the way regionally put it on the map as a joke. It was on there inside of Australia, yeah yeah well, you know you went Samuel, lose some definite gonna, be on the wrong side of Australia no, no, no! No! No! No! No! No! and by the way. Thank you

everyone who wrote in Melbourne. Yes, Melvin Brisbane prison, and one other thing this this is very unpleasant, but this is something that we do need to talk about so Nine eleven predictions may be just a little bit of confirmation by us a hollow graphic universe Fascinating subject like to touch on your audio one thing: that who did talk about that was true and you can call it You can call it something that finally couldn't be denied anymore or you could check it up to a broken clock being right twice a day for the younger food in the crowd. That's an analog clock, nodded digital one cause. They would stop live with. You pictures veto, and that is that there was a wide spread

spread, organised pedophilia or child abuse rings in the UK and the? U s a lot of people, written to us asking us to look at the Franklin Cover up People have written, especially in the wake of on the monstrous actions Jimmy Seville eating? He maintains that he had been saying this for a long time since the nine that there was a concerted. There is not only organised abuse of children, but that there were concerted efforts by people to cover it up. There is door near smoking, gun evidence that Margaret Thatcher's organism in her, her government was aware of high ranking as a parliament abusing children and kept the knowledge secret most likely to blackmail them or to ensure they play ball. So

the way that the inner say could possibly keep information on high value targets that it wanted to influence cimbrians alleged. The BBC allowed saddled. His stuff win because they're making What money off the guy yeah yeah very similar, so people people will contain that he did not. People will contain the David Ike is tending that he blew the whistle on saddle win, he only did it after the guide died, but if we all focus on that, one per we pour focus on. The idea of these organised abuse works than the unfortunate truth. Is that do you like them fortune truth is that there is a truth Somewhere within we're not saying that all the. More alarming tales of vast satanic networks are true,

but we are seeing are organised like organised crime. Is conspiracy, theory, the mafia, not a conspiracy theory right. The idea of powerful people covering up for each other not a conspiracy there? It is a conspiracy, but not a theory, I salute as the idea that you look out for, like minded criminals get enough what for your crime de jure, maybe right you still mustard, there's somebody else in your mustard thieving, always not a euro note by anyway, say those things are equal to me. Or whatever, but the problem is that it is true the citizens of european countries, particularly the UK, Belgium do, com we believe on the deck of valid. Believe too, There are well connected highly protected child abuse rings in both countries. First consider marked a true in Belgium, the odd the case that first off, we talked about this little bit in the past, but this guy

was I convicted ultimately of kidnapping two kids who starved to death he probably kidnapped and killed more. I he was working. For other people who never really gotten trouble. I I think sentenced, maybe thirty years or something recently, and his trial was going to a standstill. Witnesses disappearing. Somebody died in a mattress fire. There is going to talk about a larger network and the thirty thousand people who tested in the streets because they thought that some almost covering this up, one of the judges, felt their life threatened and left the case to see Their family, I mean that that stuff is that that stuff is not theoretical as horrible and frightening and disgusting as it is

as crazy as some people might think, David Ike is on that level. Was onto something there. Another episode- and I know we just covered that type of abuse and cover ups in the catholic church, but sounds like a whole other one. I am not very familiar that been whether they won T give hearing about a Hollywood in debt Dena. The efforts that have been made here years old. I believe Corey fell one that wrote about in his biogas I'm kind of Williams, Corey Haim, Stefan Right and the lodge a word. I think even he might not have exactly come out and said that there are two balls of rich and powerful man, but he has said that he felt be saw as a child actor got the sense of right. Young young just being passed around at the party at the parties and of which you now I don't know exactly if this is true, but it would make

Is this idea of privileged rich, powerful men? Typically, you know colluding with one another to get what they want and other muslim anything yes, unfortunately, so those cases where people have said that David, I likewise either onto something they feel. He was correct, he is not has you can tell through this episode without controversy. One of the big accusations that he gets aside from your people think he's deluded air accusations of Anti Semitism, and this was interesting. There's a book. Consider a hoax document called the protocols of Zion this purports to be a genuine account of spirits see to take over the world by by jewish people account by like high, please powerful jewish people to take

with the world for a long time. People would treat this as though it were real. It's not it's! It's a hoax, it's a fake and Fortunately, it was used by alive, by many people, including governments, to discriminate against two. Rationalize torture, murder of innocent people, a Henry Ford by way big fan of that but David. I believe there is a real book, but he believes here's. The thing you believes is written code. He believes that the every time the book uses the phrase Jews or jewish it's cold for lizard people at least that is the fence. He says, he's not anti semitic at all his aunt I elite lizard people have you guys seen they episode in the most recent season of black mirror, where

sort of about soldiers that are deployed to check out these reptilian laden more like insect girls. Throughout the spoilers spoil spoilers spoiler hers this hard, we ll spoil it even more. Don't write to us waits earns area was spoiler. It turns out that the soldiers have been conditioned to see. Basically, Fiji's are people of a different race as these zombie creatures through some sort of hypnosis or drugging, or I came a breeze outlining its hypnosis, actually mean now. Decoding was different exactly exactly just so. This seems like a little bit of a hollow argument here for him to say that the Jews are really lizard. Oh yeah, there's been all I was looking through. Google to see? What is the latest news about him? Mister Ike

What comes up the top hit if you search right now as recording? This is from A website called jewish news, DOT times of Israel, dot com and its the headline is cause for Manchester Venue find for hosting David Ike because he has this is this is like the biggest other than people saying of calling the guy unbalanced or deluded? This is the biggest traverse, and the boy This question is ok. Does he really believe that argument that he's making or is he like China, backpedal for something. You know what I mean. And I I'm home with I'm with no allotted, I dont think it doesn't match the other arguments that he made throughout the course of his career. You know what I mean. You, because you have a history of anti Semitism, doesn't seem like in the early days does that we talked about that

necessarily on the table. Wended this aspect of his prison Despite this came after the day after the paths in the in the nineties there, I he also You know he very much has a what You will call a new age side right, give us how he struck me: is almost more legs, like like said that he was into all the the green alternative medicines and all that stuff, like he struck me as much more of a peace live and let live. Canna dude, that's another thing that makes that's something it does seem to come ass. I get that sense to rise re about this. That's another thing people buying controversial about it so say: oh you're, supporting these treatments that are working. So then the idea you like that,

on his criticism, would be people saying you know this doesn't work and your selling it to people in place of rear, recommended In place of something that could work promised lay some then our argument that might be made against anti exercise bright, like a very similar arguments, and so now the current news, which met just reported for us. What that's one p, the other one. Is that he's come out against Trump? Pretty hard? saying that I dont from is partly Illuminati, which I guess is expected on one side, but then, on the other side, just as we think we mentioned last week. Maybe bed Alex Jones is totally for Trump in said, he would die for Trump. He said he's ready to die for Trump, so they would be hosting you show together, but how interesting would it be if they did right away what they wait. I wonder what their conversation would be like I, there is a video you can find of David Ike hanging out with Alex Jones.

On him for worse? If you wanna looked at up, you can find it. That's gonna check them out. The talk about ass, a political ideology. Opinions aside, if The president is probably a member of the Illuminati, I would say trumpets is that guy? funny, because a lot of people are saying you alive, transport were saying that there is an aluminum anti the people who believe in it, in that there is one and that he is being vilified because he's not a member of that status, That's exactly what I was shown set on Roman he's, like he's fighting against it, I just want look I've Guys I searched stuff about the Illuminati, so often even go to libraries and look at real books, which you know, people don't do enough anymore and like if members of the Illuminati or listen right now can guys please just get a decent website. I just one, something that I can get like. Let me go click on the plan Ali

turn off my might make proxy things that keep the cookies from showing up I just want to know what I just want. You know charges so much choice. I got one more responsibility now would be. A decent website of weird energy Exciting ways. We hope that we have we. We hope that we ve explained a little bit of David. I origin story, the controversies and the things you leaves his supporters. His opponents in his critics, we'd also like to hear from you so let us know what you think Is there sand to David Ike's theories? is. He is your money about some stuff. Is he actually wrong about everything? Is he people? Is he being exploited any of the questions that we brought up today and especially if you want to get into one of the specific beliefs

ideas that exists in one of the what ten books, available now on his website or hundreds of videos on Youtube Channel, there's so much there. We want to talk with you about it What do you say we are? We get some listener feedback the old chap gone asked first, it comes from Greece who says my late grandfather was an essay code breaker at Fort Mead during the fifties and six but for obvious reasons he didn't talk about until much later in his life he passed, a few years ago and while he never gave away any topsecret info, one story will always stick with me. One He was filling in for a coworker breaking foreign codes like a boss when he intercepted and deciphered intelligence coming from the Russians are, their line of defence on the chinese border, who, while China had no idea until the United States, informed them giving them

time to respond to Russia's advances. He quite hum We believed that finding this piece of intelligence was the first step towards improved rules in between China and the? U s. While I can't confirm grandpa was right about that. I've always enjoyed the story, and I thought you guys might like it too. That's us new, thank you for writing. In it sounds like your grandfather was very good, very humble person yeah. That's where escapes with me yeah. Well, that's the thing you are. We so often forget the one person really can make an astonishing difference for good or for ill. And also that the USA is doing work with with four you're hurting me like a lot of times when I think about the USA. Ivy have negative thoughts about because of

all the internal or in internal spying and all the things that are in the news and in his eye geiss within you remember, oh yeah. They are actually doing their best. Stop bad things from happening everywhere on the planet. Check out this sweet thirty second Degree Mason Certificate, that a buddy of mine assent belong to his grandfather. Woe nicer as illegitimate, too pretty cool Are you gonna posted on answers? I don't know, I'm I'd be everything they blew up the names, I think I'll, be ok, I'll, ask hooker friend of the show. Wesley some official shout. But it's a preliminary pre shoutout. Look! It's a wave to wave what you say, something awaken a nod who's next, next, we have a shot out for Andrew. How are they shut out for people are from people. I don't know

What's the nature and to wrong, we shall now to injure so shut out to Andrew from Andrew. We go. Both ways is a two way street neurons tat. They don't you hey guys. I work in a hotel in by with this is re thee at least the Lamb episode guys. In the elevator early tat you ve guitar. Three lobby and they were minimal, free cameras that could see each guest walking in My question is where are the door videos to see what other people walk in more me, then in the lobby of the hotel. If the hotel- city, then, why didn't they have more videos of the hotel, not necessarily right. I mean if it's like a low rents, joint Maybe the kidding by on the minimum security Millyard were makes it see if you ve got videos in

the elevator, like that, you ve definitely got some more cctv carers somewhere and that's it away even inside the elevator shot. There's gonna be than in the hallway is gonna, be at least a candle in this. The throwing the lottery for sure yeah but didn't have to give us that fully Really really is this. You know I mean they release those of their own volition. To kind of probably in a way give a sense of like ok, there's something up with this girl. We were not We did our job. We were doing something yet. That's you. That's that's great quest and drew nigh gummy. They got me thinking as well, and I am I'm kind of on the same page with my compatriots. Here I think they just the LAPD just shows what to really. For us a bone nearby. I am not usually that guy, but I'm probably of the three of us. It was the most greed, that episode and feel like. Maybe there was some serious potential, for some some spell

irksome weirdness, but I also think that between the three of us, we had the sense that there could have been some amount of covering up going on how what led this young woman to be where she ended up meeting her end so, tragically so yeah, I think the fact that only that one camera was released was trying to place the blame on the victim We should also take a moment to thank not just Andrew, thank you, Andrew by all people who wrote in in the house. Fatality industry, telling us stuff about how this work so we had some great information about what hotel ability is no and I won't see her name on the air, my friends by ETA, the the purse wrote to us and said well oh, you know I'm in the UK and our hotel, we often get

Ladys new, walk up and just go to a guest room. There was a bad things happen. Sometimes right and towards The hotels liable Wu Wu follow up with some of that in the in the meantime are very lash out over today. Sure if this is Kate or Katy, but well we'll go with only because it build K a? Why t? Really we allow you pronounce above ways depending while we're hooked on fine excludes the will, will try for Katy Surreal, Rambo cases Miss Katy I live in Southeast Ohio with my fifteen year old Son, who is on the autism spectrum. We don't of television or internet other than my phone. I stumbled on your part I send my son comes out to listen to you, he laughs. Smiles he shares comments with me. We talk for hours on your topics, he loves, listen to you and he is excited to see what he finds this

the land that time forgot on purpose and my son and I are both fingers. Another note I love the euro. Open minded, I'm a practising pagan on awaken path and the law of a media judgment is a breath of fresh air. Finally, I listen to one of your life broadcast regarding the advancement of technology in our world. You would- how it is becoming more likely that people integrate technology into self in life. My thought is: has any taken the darker side of human nature and the likelihood of any a portion of the population going the other way, hundreds gathers human prey to be technically and with preying on the weak. I think, if you want to see an example of that and pop culture look no further than black mare, oh bring it up. The die or at I'm hooked on the thing, Charlie Brugger, who creator, the show, is also a kind of like a calm, Amelia critic. You sort of looks at the zoo. Ice and is really good job of like pulling out troops trends and things that have happened he's very funny. Buddy

so clearly has a dark streak and that to me is all about the dark side of technology. You know we focus I how it improves our lives, how it makes us you know more connected, whereas this Oh talk more about the hidden flip side. Of all eyes technology. How, in many ways it makes us more did I did and alienated and alone and scared, and me enemies of friends United Means, I really recommend a. U checking out not for your site, I wouldn't think it's got some very intense yeah, but it sets a very, very well done. Show yes, on ethics and further. I would go even even further with the question. Katy would talk about the passing of the bad possibilities, There is a great example of various to still be impossible. In the very near future how

are the technologically heckling advantage not already preying on people who you know what I mean a cow is someone from a wealthy country where All these amazing things at their fingertips, not in some way participating and exploitation of people who live in countries that suffer resource extraction just to get the rear minerals right right. You know, there's a a reason The banana wars happened and it wasn't for any I followed in ideal about human rights, no matter how is packaged for the masses, and it so easy to forget that even the least of us in this country who might consider ourselves lower middle class. We problem still have smartphones you, we probably still have an internet connection. We have access to these things and we sometimes forget that other countries and people who are much more

much worse off than we are just don't an inner its they. I guess first world problem kind of thing who or its leg. While I want the nicer smartphone, I want the faster internet connection, but I mean we so absurdly, privileged that at times it's a little dizzying and its People can live in such bubbles, the way the technology that could unite us ten. To make this species sort of divide. You have to wonder if that's is full. That's just the sad effect of our groups. Psychology, and you know another example- is Garriga, that's a pretty ample right where I, where, if you got the money you can afford to pay for the gene, the hierarchy for lack of better turn, I guess Julie more Jean monopoly. Yeah yeah and then the spoiler are allowed gotta. Ninety three spoiler about Gallagher.

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