Hi there. I'm sack wrath and I'm gonna phase on we're real life best friends. We met playing fake life, best friends, Turk and JD on the sitcoms grubs. Twenty years later, we ve decided to re watch the series one have pursued at a time and put our memories into a pod cast. You can listen to it home, we're gonna, get all our special guess. Friends, like sour chalk, John C Mckinley meal Flynn, Judy raise show create a bill. Lords editors, writers and even prop masters would tell us about what inspired the serious and how we became a family. You can listen to the pond cast fake doctors, real friends with Second Donald on the high heart radioactive apple podcast, and wherever you get your Marcus.

It seems that you should be easy, but is not just getting out of bed and getting your day started, trying to accomplish everything you need to do in your day that to do list as a lot easier when you're getting news stories and music to lift your mood and preparing for the day ahead connected to the things that make you laugh and make you think or make you want to reach out and share with a friend every morning with us, it's Elvis Joanne in the morning show listen to us on cue, one or two or anywhere in the world. On the I hurt radio app.

From you at those two psychic powers and government conspiracies history is riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or learn the stop. They don't want you to know. Welcome back to the show my name's met. My name is not they call me, then we are joined with our returning guest super producer. Key see the Khan

Peggy Roma Asia Cage and yes, very important. Also, most importantly, you or you you are here that makes this stuff. They don't want you to know. Today's episode is a bit of a rabbit hole for us. I mean every episodes bit of rabbit wholly everyone involved, but we have a little bit of backstory here. In a previous episode of this show, we explored the strange, ongoing and likely doomed quest to find the grief of Genghis Khan, and we also just that is the correct pronunciation. Yes, gang is gone. Is now Genghis Khan, like like jangle leg, the game new known mother the Reverend Comedy. I guess it s called heart and along the way we learned that, not only is it's nearly impossible for any one to find the cons actual resting place. Not only is it me

be possible that people know where it is and will never share that information. But we learned a lesson that Matthew and I learn years and years going with the law civilizations, and that is that this species, on the whole just terrible holding onto or remembering anything we ve lost the location of tons of other immensely important historical figures and sure, sometimes that's through honest bone headed mistakes, moments of instability in confusion is empires, rise and fall and inside other cases, its on purposes, through purposeful ops view, but before We explore all the famous incredibly crucial historical figures who have disappeared from the modern day we have to, we have to admit people's tombs are lost in the big picture, but we. What do we mean what we say that here are the

When you think about it, folks, mostly those tombs or lost over ninety percent of pupils tunes are lost in the big picture, but we. What do we mean what we say that here are the facts What's a combination of of quite a few different factors overall there to really important things that really are dick in the cry of your Laura Crofts of the world's right. First too, firms were expensive honestly, that's not any different today. If you want like a fancy, burial or some kind of mausoleum or applaud you know, land is scarce. Lots of people die. You know it's

quite an expense unless you just one, only go the cheap route and even then you gotta pay for a dam on he hath funerals are a racket in this care recall whether we ve done it episode on this yet, but funerals are very much erected at least in the west, and you know it higher family is in the funeral business. I know. There's the whole notion that it is a comfort is a service. You are providing that's one way to look at it, but there is absolutely money to be made and people are often kind of swindled into overpaying, four things in memory of their loved one or as some kind of tribute. To them. When I don't know it's it's, the old Bernice thing who talked about an episode, one guys create the knee, We're here create them either then don't be swayed as the consumer or the person going through. Some

the dramatic emotional thing you can't be swayed by those please to your emotion. So point being this remains true today, but throughout the course of history, the vast majority of people were buried in much more modest structures or in some cases the body was just burn. That was back when you could burn your own loved ones, and I can't do that anymore. Not I mean you can, yeah, that's fair, that's their chief smell, really gives it away orders. There were things like sky burial. You know it at me with a funeral process become more important than the bureau, the fish, resting site raising that kind of coming back as in their such a thing as a green, burials or modern sky burials. I don't know about modern sky burials, but green burials are definitely huge, Ed in our home state of Georgia. Here in the U S, there is a nearby catholic monastery that practice. That's one of those living only too pleased, as I believe in the United States that practices green burial, and that's it.

Observation to know, because, with green burial, the idea is that ultimately, everything involved in the burial from the box to the to the right happiness around the corpse to the corpse itself will just become part of the soil, leave no trace no grave site left behind and that's how many many people ended. There lie that's right. They they were maybe in some cultures thrown into the sea war, Some unfortunate places, people just wrong- where they fell and ass. We sat a minute ago. There is also the issue of scarcity of burial sites, because there are just so many people. There are so many people, Especially, we look over the long term. Alright, let's do something very cheerful and dive into some of the deaths statistics. The statistics of ITALY or fatalities. We were able to find.

I'm a very rough way: the number of people who have died ever not from nine fifty on not from seventeen seventy one on what up until twenty fifteen, it's up twenty fifteen, but it messed with math math Little added to twenty eight- are awesome. According to the population research, bureau, modern homo sapiens, meaning people who were more or less like all of us listening now are this this new fangled homo sapiens, Stick walked earth about fifty thousand years ago and since then more than one hundred and eight, billion members of our species have been born. That's number, because again we have virtually no demographic data for ninety nine percent of the span of human existence. Forty two thousand years ago people were like hey, let's get

try together, figure out everybody's average age, interest and preference, for you no type of the timing and leisure yeah. They weren't. So much in the intellect expectant eyes. In these days, we can't get enough of them correct but we did. We did find a pretty accurate number right, yeah yeah, that's right, man! If we do a little simple, math find some astonishing thing. So, let's do it a fairly accurate number of people living on the planet today, seven point, seven billion again very rough because long time, listeners, if you remember an earlier episode you actually pulled up the World Population Clock and we looked at how many people were born and died. Just in the forty five minutes, spent doing the episode can't remember the exact number, with somewhere around ten thousand. There were added while we recorded the yes, that's true,

true, so welcome if you were listening so we have to do- is a little bit. Subtraction subtraction. Take that seven point: seven billion away from the one hundred and eight billion have ever been born, and we arrive at this number around the one hundred billion three hundred million human beings that have died on this planet overall, just done in the course of this. Brutal thing called human life on earth, and so With this in mind, We can. We can easily see that we don't know where all one hundred billion three hundred million graves are right and many many many many of those people didn't get a good it all. You know like legacy No many were probably burned or disposed of according to the cultural values or mores of the time, and when we

about this means its reasonable to assume that many people got lost in the historical shovel, as we said, empires rise. They change names the rulers change, families, names of cities, change, its is stamboul, not Constantinople, and that's not. These business, but it sort everybody's etc, and not Nothing did Shelly right. The poem as Amandas, which is great, oh yeah, look on my work, see mighty and this all of this and look at it, Yeah: that's that's important, I hope, is familiar with a lot of people. Quoted to great effect in the ballad of Buster Scruggs, recently Dubuque Netflix, how in the Super bummer episode Rank Super bummer vignette, but the guy his great exit,

that you really do. I say this every every time we bring about humanity is my grandfather's favorite poem and he would recite it all the time because you he was beautifully obsessed with his own mortality and he would just constantly talk easy man. Yes, we ever like Grandpa, your kind of freaking me out. No, it was this. I don't knows really charming thing about his honor weird way. Did you have a good voice for? Oh, he did my grand his drank and grunted. Perhaps he was reciting something too in his head over it and share with me so because we know that, unfortunately we are never going to find the resting place of most people on the planet. That's that's! Just the way. Things have shaken off were so far, but what about the people who were a big? deal it. This is interesting when you see me about you,

your grandfather having this fastening obsession with his own mortality, because virtually every culture in our history. In one way or another venerate, the dead death is up there with birth, though what are the huge inexplicable things right tons of people? personally believe that they no longer have an inkling of what happens. Rain and some people agree, and many people don't, but no one is come up with something that everyone can get on board with right saw it mystery, and we do, our best to honor or remember our loved ones or in cases in some gory cases, the vilify the people spies in each year, hundreds of millions of people make pilgrimages to one resting place or another. It could be like Jim Morrison's grave in Europe ripe. Absolutely I could be it could be.

Resting places of Lenin. You know or yeah it's usually a famous or powerful person, or I famously powerful person gets yes. Powerfully famous Perceval as so. It seems we More than that since our species pay so much attention to this, it seems reasonable to assume that we can at least keep track of, if not everybody, the most important people who ever lived right. You'd. Think of course, now turns out now. Ok, show, but other additives will tell you why this is the case after a word our sponsors.

In a world where everyone is confined to their homes, society begins its largest, been watch to date in the hallowed library of Hulu or perhaps on a shelf of dvds. You haven't looked at in a decade, is a show that perfectly encapsulates life in the early odds and launched a friendship, evidence spire millions. I I'm sorry, and I'm Donald phasing in two thousand one. We start in scrub sitcom that revealed a glimpse of what it was like to survive. Medical intervention as

and J D, we explored guileless, nearly twenty years later allotted changed, we're not Superman but which still best friends, given a mandatory lockdown, there's no better time to relive the series that brought us together in the first place and we're doing it when a pod care, ass, right people working to bring friends and crew members and fellow CAS members and writers, and and guess what we're gonna even invite some of you to call into the pie cast and ass. All the questions you want of the entire sacred heart staff join us: profane, doctors, real friends on the heart, radio am apple, pod cats and wherever you get, your pod casts. Here's where it gets crazy that not even counting the normal people likely You like everybody's, ever lived

the over one hundred billion normal people right right. We have lost tons and tons and tons of incredibly influential historical figures over ages we can divvy it up into a couple of rough category spoiler. We do not have the wherewithal to go into every single famous person who has disappeared or been hidden from history, but we can. We can touch on some interesting stories that are not Genghis Khan. Stories of misplaced corpses stories of rumoured burial sites and these old old rumours to as will find, and then we also have stories of people who were purposefully buried in secret. So let's get Let's get it started with all Alexander. The great that's get it started in New York Alexander. The third of Macedonia is that correct great way of saying Macedonia it became

How do I get bigger Macedon? It was one of the world's this. This gentleman was one of the world's greatest military minds. We you ve, probably heard of him just from classes way way back in the day, maybe you're in one right now. Listening to this, shame on you put your phone away not to be confused with our amazing cohort, Alex the great yet correct algerian degree, but in this gentleman Alexander the thirds short life he established, the largest empire the ancient world had ever seen up to that point and lasted that. For while was the great empire yeah. So weird, would you read about these people? His is moniker is not ironic. He was Alexander, the great it was, like a little John name, and I think about Girls like this every time I- do something really dumb like the sky was died in his thirties over most of the new world at the time and Two weeks ago, I fell asleep trying to put on a pair of hands. You know it it makes you think it really

it really really. Does you. I just recently learned how much I love acronyms goat. Greatest of all time yeah, so he could have been Alex he's the original goat, Alexander the goat there's an ironic on this is it this is. It Well, here's the thing Alexander, the great was just a regular all guy doing all this conquering with his giant armies. You know his numerous jobs armies that room the planet died, feeling like a failure. Yeah even, though it did name a city after himself tat he goes shop just goes to show. We all have impostor syndrome, all of US muslim atoms, no matter what you know about it it's you achieve how much you conquer, never enough. Unless you get right with yourself and love yourself, and so far everybody has died, no matter what they do. It turns out life as a terminal condition, except for that one guy, you remember

the different potentially a thousand years ago, or so you, member attainment space out, one guy, can't remember his name. All right, so owing henrietta lacks there, you go immortality: visa cancer cells, ok, so here's ears, one of the big things. It's not exist actually known, or least, is debated how he died, but it is known when he died. Yeah three twenty three BCE in Babylon, but but you're raising interesting point met. We we don't know too much about how he died was it. Malaria was Poisoning with West now virus there's, a somewhat wrote: idealized romanticized account that says He died of heartbreak. Oh my gosh, that's not a day Gamma people have died of our provides they to suck it up and knew no start going to Jim you now

you got all this advice for these ancient people really seriously. Chip in self is time in this time in human civilization, just surviving was late being at the gem, all the tests. What I'm saying that, like you here with everything that is getting thrown out, you hang a dive, a broken heart than to sounds like giving up tonight, surprisingly, called a lesson I've, been through the ringer this year there last year, I see a future have come out. The other side there, what do you mean? What's that quote, be kind We will ever one is facing I'll. Do it again be kind for everyone is facing a great battle. Its want to check Brian's favorite quotes actually better get going. It also others things about being you can read, rephrase had to be nice to the person named everyone you me, because they could be dealing with something that you do not know yeah- or you know the golden rule just treat like you want to be treated so what

happens with her to okay. So there's this idea debatable, probably not true that he died of good old fashioned grief over the death of his best friend hit Festy on FS. I don't know I heard of the other internet, the ages silent, but I am no. Her first University in export, so so wait what happens, though, like I'll, regardless of how he dies, he dies around three twenty b c E. So what happens after that? What I mean corpse he's the guy that conquered, the world at least, let alone the known world. As we said, and his body is going to be venerated in some way. In probably some you know use fashion. That's just it's gonna happen, no matter what his bodies gonna be an artifact for four what comes after him! Now that the leader is dead because there's gonna be a power struggle right, yeah, yeah, absolutely

because in this case is body becomes a symbol in some way, possessing his body gives an implicit endorsement of your right to rule. We almost like that is so strange training and almost as an error in a way, being an error to it because you have it yeah. Possession be nine tenths of the law and so on so first his bodies mummified and for two years it later, state in a golden sarcophagus, and eventually the people were fine, but where He should be placed wish, be, bury me. Decision and they decide to bury him in Greece in the capital. The macedonian kings well ways called e gay and I again internet says I should pronounce about way in Spain, a e g we're just go and with it, but the plan,

goes arise in the correct. Oh yeah, according to ancient sources, his hearse that was actually you know his boss was traveling in was hijacked of office. Near Damascus, and his corpse was taken to Egypt and it was for I guess it was first taken to Memphis in Egypt not to not the home. The other king, right away before Elvis and then from their things. To get fuzzy some time between two ninety eight into eighty three BC. His body is taken. Two Alexandria, the city we mentioned earlier- that he founded named after himself and then from there. He did this in turn and foot in at least two other places, the most feed being a Moslem called the sum of the summer. Which I believe is a

herb that kind of makes you sleeping, I think, there's a psychotic anti psychotic medication or at least some kind of volume- ask drug its drug in brave new world by Aldous Huxley exactly what I was thinking. Maybe it's Niven real. I wonder if the real drug was named after the drug and Huxley Really is a drug hot summer The real drug use, a muscle, relax or think here, I want to say, have been prescribed it before, but didn't take it. It's all soon: It's also a wonderful wonderful. I like it. I like using this word for this house game like earlier psychological, our game. It's also a quite good smashing, pumpkin song from before Billy Corrigan lost his damn mind. The summit is a brand name of a real drug. Its cares Well, that's why that is the one to all that aside. Drugs smashing, pumpkins, imaginary drugs

This is where, in this mausoleum the summer the looting began. Does want to happen with graves. It's basically like up old target in the ground, saying: hey, free, stuff yeah. If you want to get dream Turning and possibly your soul. Well, I mean Alexander found himself with his body at least inside a giant golden sarcophagus. We mentions in conspicuous yeah, and what do you do when you have a giant thing made out of gold mill? of you do, and that happened They got replaced with like a glass sarcophagus, or at least a glass container or some kind of crystalline container, which is fast it to me. I really like to have seen that year it's it's strange because you have to wonder, did you decide, Did they decide that gold bein a currency? At times

days aside. That was just asking for trouble to make another golden thing and they d did well glasses, nice and glass and crystal are expensive, but no one will steal it to try to pay for things that I mean. That makes a lot of sense, and also you know, whoever is running the show. Now you need a lot of gold and money to to pay for all the war that your waging stripe, because we're empire building here, people there I mean it is not its game on. Even Patrick, who don't worry, shows up later in the story took go from this tomb to pay for her war against Octavius data Things continue to get worse, which kind of the story of humanity, our man, no question about it. In three sixty c e, there were a series of unfortunate events that included warfare writing an earthquake and tsunami on all of them. Threatened or possibly even destroyed the tomb. By the time Saint John Chris Austin visited in for

you see, the tomb was lost and ever since then no one is well to find the resting place of one of histories greater. Conquerors, in Alex the great IP just out there. Somewhere. His remains exists because takes a long time for bones in the human body to break down it's there. Treat traces of him may well be somewhere in some form right lines. He is now also its verdict. Alexander, the lost so Please continue for his is remains, were his tomb today, but no, is founded. One thing we can say- and I dont want us onto cynical about this- is that this this makes a lot of careers. The search these sorts of lost sites, can literally change the course of human history, and so, as we speak

if you're, if you're in archeologists or a budding archaeologists reed, urging this or something like this. We want hear from you. Let us know what your search, your particular searches and, let us know what would you think your fellow listeners would be surprised to learn about it in the meantime fast forward. Just were right, you're very get into. I watch the movie with my wife last night, and I couldn't tell you the name of it right now. It just showed up on one of the streaming sites and she had wanted to see it it. It's all This woman who goes back to college with her daughter to become an archaeologist in it just happened. I had no idea that that was the plot is warming rum come into. I guess it's kind of that budget is psychological thriller her. I couldn't tell you who senator what what it was our advice sleepy, it was not bird bucks. I can't believe I can't even think of it, ran out the police Academy for that's what it was. Ok anyway

I happen to have an archaeologist archaeology, be plot line, may maybe, happy nice, it's fastening. I have a subscription to archaeology magazine, well. Ok, look I mind for possible episodes in the future, and just can be honest. I inexplicably have a subscription to maxim it just started coming I can't get it to stop. I think that something that happens in the magazine industry they love to look into because I had a former girlfriend who explained We began receiving a subscription to move hair magazine air My hair magazine is a lifestyle fashion. Interesting, for reaching a population in the? U S, North America, yes and weak, and get them to stop sending it. I get you them I sent an actual letter and these he'll, keep sending my hair wow as far as I know, you know the

my ex there and good terms like probably right, you ask her. She might still be getting new hair like they lie down, there was no way. I think she moved three times still follows our wherever she goes. Yeah that was rolling stones. Somehow my wife still gets rolling stone sent to our house. We have not paid for that in. I don't even know how long we should look into this is actually, I think we might have just uncovered and new conspiracy. Is it worth sending us these magazines for the advertising that we are potentially looking at? That did you just have just as no claim circulation right as the boost numbers? That's for I'm fine! I love magazines, cancel the loudest subscriptions because we received them here at work and read a ton of them, but but but anyway, but anyway, that that may well be a future episode. Tell us about the magazine subscriptions that you are non consensually receiving police, and and out will have. This conspiracy with you. If you need it, it's a bit unethical, but if you,

have a subscription that you want people to think you were not consensually. Receiving write to Us- and we will totally pretend that you are now consensually receiving it beautiful someone's like no, I hate horseback monthly, though its there's so many weird magazines, yeah cash, ok, yeah, we're gonna. Do an episode of that lets. You lives let's deadly do that and let's also jump forward to a really cool figure in history. Mr Thomas yes, let's bring the pain man. What's what's the just about this guy, I will he's in he's an Englishman in England born political philosophies. Writer you certainly have heard about him. He supported revolutionary causes in both America and in Europe. Now he's

best known for the old seventeen. Seventy six essay common sense, along with other work, such as the american crisis, rights of man and the age of reason, which is a really great red actually- and I didn't expect it to be when I, when I crack that thing- yet readability? It's it's strange because I think we sometimes have the stereotype about things written in English. In that accurate, a time where they're going to be dry in every sentences can be three paragraphs, long health and you're not gonna understand. Most of it is largely responsible for the philosophy behind Enlightenment Yang and also our are monument bodies. The Georgia guides. Us gases is actively pain, influence on this. Those guys huge. They were used in the plain that is a weird mixed accents and again my grandfather. The reason why red is my grandfather, all Papa, brought it

my attention. It's it's a good radio, and I know I know these the idea there are certain trigger words. People here that make them not one a red things. One of those is essay heard here. There is good reason rights, but but he was writing to communicate with common people. You know what I mean you wasn't trying to do, a fancy acts of rhetorical gymnastics or acrobatics, but eventually by all the great things that he did. She also spoiler died man. Was open is going to go. The other way he's outside of the studio right now met waiting to talk. About his multilevel marketing, a home and of a good use. Badly central is again paying so he died on June. Eighth, eighteen, o nine in New York City

Today he is the only founding father that does not have an official grave site like and go and visit there. Isn't that crazy? I'm so surprised but let's talk about would have been, let's so he was first buried in New Rochelle in New York on his farm after the Quakers. Refused him in a town that was very, very hostile towards this man. Yeah because he criticised the quakers during his lifetime for their pacifism and for some of their other political beliefs. That's right! in eighteen, nineteen, a pain admirer William Cobbett himself. A Democrat Democratic Get rather from England saw. The disrespect that pain received where he, buried. It decided to dig him up, took it upon himself dick. The man up does grabbed a shovel grab a shovel higher when the hurt, once it's true

and take him to England where he would be true. With more respect on and he wanted to help spur the movement for democracy there. So I guess he saw this as sort of a symbolic act. Yeah again using a dead body were almost apple for definitely a political reason, and did it work not really still a monarchy in that area. The world it there's a parliament, yeah House of Lords and the House of Commons, should tell you what you need to know where the states we basically have two houses of Lord. So at least an agonising come the same thing. The the representative represent the people which would be the commons and then the senators are more like the Lord's interest, the senators on paper also supposed to represent people. That's fair, ha ha psych, so over the years pains by he was was I didn't lose split the bones were circulated across the planet.

People were making relics of his remains. Now we have we don't know where the bones are. We don't know where pieces of this guy's body are. There is a Thomas pain. Nation that has some of his hair and a bit of his brain. They admit to only not, but there were unverified rumours that sum of Thomas Pains bones were cut into this guy's buttons in Seoul, finance the revolution, nice, but thing is kind of like in the middle ages, when people would unscrupulously cell euro slivers of Jesus the cross on which Jesus Christ was crucified. There are enough slivers of that stuff to make a knot of forest. Essentially works like this passion of the Christ necklaces, oh yeah, aura any and all holy water. Ever well wholly worry. Can we could just make him

doesnt, I'm sake. What was it you will have? Our heavens conversation was somebody about hunting vampires in vampire films There is almost always a priest right here in the priest, as the ability to bless water making it wholly and therefore, dangerous for vampires. Why They just like bless a water treatment system or a door more, some just a well. How does it work to start again buckets? Well anyway, there very go vampire producers

cotter show you now that now that the universal Life touch of California exists, literally all of us have a massive defensive it against vampires, because we can just get ordained within a few minutes is now a year ordinary. I am absolutely had me as well. Exactly we might be only one is not ordained s we ve talked about is not sit on this tried. I guess I gotta get on the ordain train cases. Ordained look at him he's in he's in three or four different sex that he's a minister foreign. I think a priest, the maid stars and what was the other thing, a shaman amaze he's a major. Why are you making this up? Yes, yes, I saw so back to this idea of counterfeiting relics. View common in ancient days and surprisingly common still in the eighteen, hundreds there were more buttons that were proportion

Lee Thomas pains bones that were sold then could have come from ten bodies. You could you could build jam band off the amount of buttons salt, while the skeletons of Jimmy what makes you wonder who else was, that GM band that ended up as a Thomas Pain button, as these are also the days of resurrection weren't, they do. You think that any of those are still around and their confirmed to be pain. But around yes confirmed now, because how could you well, you played There are there are. There are some forms of testing? Could you to verify it? Cuz there were rumors of a leg bone hanging in a wall of a tavern in England, and then there are other place that would be Thomas Paine right. That's a large enough sample where you could

to do some investigatory thing. You could probably at least narrow down the time frame and the region was economy using Riah you hit. You could do some analyses that would indicate that there are also some piece of that were claimed in Europe is possible there. Skull as been located in Wales and then later moved to Australia, but two Point no testing is confirm this and today it seems panes remains are largely scattered amidst various grisly collections and some unscrupulous private collectors. Their me if these people than you think my friends have proof likely have pieces of Thomas Pain held in secret collection today, sort of the way the particular sea society here in the United States collects rules. That is while creatively name the skull and bones by the way you were talking about. We have as true just sitting there. Do you think? Maybe they haven't. I don't know,

I don't know, but you know what honest I would not be that surprised if they had a piece of it would make so much sense. Oh yeah, that's gale! Oh, do they totally have something in their aim, wait? Twenty three me if you're listening, just whoever you are ours, I saw this news just go ahead and just get on there and start just testing, owns especially go to the stolen bones. First Oh, I thought we're talking about the twenty three may news that just came out no here now. What is it? Ok, I superman users can we get a breaking new, sound q? So twenty three me has teamed up with a drug manufacture. Pharmaceutical giant named collapsed so like Psmith climb a hot Glaxosmithkline they're, giving the they're giving away the dna test results of the five million something customers of twenty

access Smithkline will use this data to create research and create new drugs. I'm sorry, I'm sorry what it called it, I said, was gonna happen, oh my god tell Jason Exact producer, gauzy totally just did that go ahead and preemptively. Thank him for possibly contributing to our medical research. There you go there, you go against his well? Well, maybe he click the terms of service. You now want to do that. If you don't know, what's gonna happen through, its role? Thus they told us in their offices, they wouldn't do this so sure you take a little break before we get to rumoured burial places sounds good. Let's do it.

In a world where everyone is confined to their homes. Society begins its largest, been watched to date in the hallowed library of Hulu or perhaps on a shelf of dvds. You haven't looked at in a decade, is a show that perfectly encapsulates life in the early arts and launched a friendship evidence fire millions. I I'm sorry and I'm Donald phasing in two thousand one. We start in scrub sitcom that revealed a glimpse of what it was like to survive medical intervention as

and J D. We explored guileless nearly twenty years later. A lot is changed, we're not Superman, but we're still best friends, given a mandatory lockdown, there's no better time to relive the series that brought us together in the first place and we're doing it with care, ass, right people working to bring friends and crew members and fellow CAS members and writers, and and guess what we're gonna even invite some of you to call into the pie cast and ass. All the questions you want of the entire sacred heart staff join us: profane, doctors, real friends on the eye heart radio am apple podcast and wherever you get your pod casts and we're back as mad would say with no delay. He said at once, and I was taken by it. I don't know it means, but I, like it very much

you can hear this is a very dry track. There are a lot of effects on it, definitely no delay or delay. Also. It means that we're getting right to it. Rumoured burial places number one with a bullet on the list: the Queen efforts, easy of ancient Egypt. She was a queen of Egypt, the wife of the Faro. I cannot ten, who ruled in the MID fourteenth century BC. So before never tv and I cannot in Egypt, had been a polytheistic civilization, worshipping entire pantheon of anthropomorphic animal deities, ranging from the crocodile God so back, who is depicted often as a man with the head of a crocodile, a staff in one hand and an Unc that the egyptian symbol little loop with the cross through in the other and with a weirdly, a giant golden Temple thing? Is some sort of larger than life crown sitting a top his scaly pad

and you had like gods like the Nubes who is depicted the God of the dead, who is depicted very much the same way as Sobek was only with the head of a jackal and a last no gold Temple, NED Peace, the ILO I love the idea of all the gods being a person with a different animal had that is really actually really like TAT, but here's the thing I cannot in and his queen thought this whole worshipping. Multiple animal headed gods was further the literal birds not not to be confused with the ibis, headed God of wisdom, thoughts, so funds say thoughts is to get a th on the front end Anna TH on the back and Yemen. I love it I really do like Avis, but what does it forth thought? the God. I've seen them in so many different places. Anyway, There are thought to be a good, a better idea, at least to stick with just let let's call it one God? This easier. We can all you know, no, that there's one singular force that we can worship. Let's say

me let's see the sun that joy orange thing: they just shoots light at us all the time and it makes us warm and happy. That's it thing worship, let's do that seems a jet, important note that these son disk, also known as at an had already held a place in ancient egyptian religion. The states way back to the old kingdom where worshipped as an aspect of the composite God, Raw Armand Horace- and this is not to get too into the weeds about of a raw represents. The daytime sign on the son of the underworld horse, of course, the rising sun. I love the idea of a composite god that this so called to me

really common in the ancient were abbot sitting, we don't really think about everything to regard is kind of their own thing, although it is kind of similar to the Trinity like Railway Trinity right out of these, and they didn't make that up out of whole cloth right, monotheism being exactly where we're headed right. So this is this. Is this is back story? We were there, we promise will deliver. So what what happens? Next, afternoon this stuff about power, There's a man monotheism right. Yes, not and never tv attempted with all their might to obliterate all traces of numerous go game, affirm, style and call them the old gods by defaced. Carvings temples hieroglyphics that depicted them either this didn't go over so well within the general public that had been worshipping these God for so long a time and neither did it last particularly long write them. That's right. Didn't it did not, wasn't as on,

successful as new coke that came out better. It was, it was still pretty No, we were actually way worse than new coke or a crystal, perhaps because I believe that I cannot in rain for seventeen years, and this whole worshipping the sun. God business came in about three or four years into his reign, so that's kind of a blip in ancient egyptian history rights and the people who came after I cannot end did their best you aris him and never eighty herself from official history in this this important. So we don't talk about this as much as we should in the modern day, but it is true that the victors right, the history, textbooks you read and they are the ones who tell the stories of events in the past, and it is at least

act it was alarmingly easy to erase people from history and Stalin did it. In his reign, the these What Pharaohs did it is well and you can see why they did it? Whether or not you agree with them. It is true that this could pose a clear and present danger to their own legitimacy. You know, absolutely and never teeny, went right along with this whole deal because she actually disappeared from historical record before Her husband did about twelve years into his range was possible that she might have died. There was a plague, as we know the swept through Egypt around this time There are some egyptologist who believed that she was actually elevated to co, regent and changed. Her name therefore comes slipped out of this. Local record into a new role in the name. Never t disappeared and she was named something that sounded remarkably. Like never tv. I can't remember exactly what it was, but what sort of a it was almost the permutation of the name, never tv

and the thing is too in a lot of the historical record or a lot of the depictions of she and her husband. They were very much on the same level. She already had a lot of power even before this possible elevation to literal co region, like vice president, really echo region would be like fifty fifty co ruler right. We're. So that's one possibility, but there's more, Archaeologists believe that she could have been buried in one of the tombs of what's now called a marina, which was in capital city that I cannot in built during his reign. Woe re use. These tombs were plundered after I cannot uns death so is possible. The never tt could have been re buried in the valley of kings. Thing is people will tell you that, no matter how much animosity there was of for her

and her husband, no Pharaoh would normally deny a former ruler, the burial accorded to their station even even somebody that everybody hated Leon. I cannot endure something that we, I don't think we ve even mentioned this, yet she had a very important step. Son. You may know em two common to common, yes type that we have discussed in before on the show about the the curse that existed for his tomb. Oh yeah and I think inbreeding was the curse of his lifetime. Have you seen the forensic analysis? Also I like to think of me as the originator of the phrase Tut Tut, there you go, I'm a big fan like the single type that you do when you said that so too is very tight. Yes, it is when something is very tight, yeah, something stuck in the idea that she had such a famous and powerful Sonny, from the perhaps her body was actually put in his tomb

We're that's right, not to mention the fact that he took over after his father in law died, and he is also the one that pretty much instantly started. The process of going back taken Egypt back to the old polytheistic ways. Refurbishing, all of those desecrated sites and monuments and hieroglyphs and all that business. But yes, you actually write this theory that never cheat body was possibly buried in her son and laws tomb. There's one part of it that is super interesting, is the idea that that tomb may have actually been meant for never tv in the first place, but that didn't common died. Unexpectedly, quite young, the boy king right, because one piece of evidence behind this is all it seems a little conjecturing, but is that it was a much smaller tomb than some of the other ones and that if it was for a woman, they might have considered diminutive unless then so, they might have made it smaller, but he could also argue that it was for a boy and then you could say the same thing in that respect, but here's the thing this

theory was put forth by Egyptologist named Nicholas reef. Is the director of the monarch royal, tombs project? He commission some radar scans of the sight of tat and commons tomb and the supposedly showed evidence of two secret chambers complete with masonry walls and quote metallic and organic substances, but there are other spurts. You aren't so sure that this was definitive of what he wanted it to be. Yeah and then of course, as you the theory like that comes along. You ve got somebody else who comes along and says: well, I'm going to do scans and working or where at least gonna? ray. Look at the scans that were done, see what we have here and According to this other group of scientists, in this case it's a Lawrence Conyers whose at the University of Denver He is an anthropology professor, runaway he's. Looking, scans, anything it the quote. It does now appear that these JP are ground. Penetrating radar data

I've been processed or any of the so called anomalies, are visible in the raw data that are provided to sky. By the way I saw this in every thing that cited Did he wrote the book on ground penetrating radar? There you go, it's gonna make it about penetrating the ground, the other that old poet laureate of the West, but I will go To this end, to the court it says my suggestion to those who are collecting it is that they release the Roger the raw data for some peer review by other GPS people before they allow the antiquities people to hold a press conference about all the riches that might be in these supposed tunes that peer review would cut and all the speculation in critiques that have been going on around the email for the last few days,

there might be, as there might be as many scientists who could reach a consensus in advance of the speculation in the press. This was in two thousand sixteen. By the way, I was not able to find any more recent updates to this, but into that sixteen Egypt's Antiquities Ministry refused to follow Conyers advice or acknowledge another series of scans. They were carried out by National Geographic or with their assistants, saying they would independently test site instead Reed and his co. Author were allowed. Present their findings unchallenged it within the Egyptology community in Egypt, so Then we were taken mothers off air like it seems like the ministry here is prey.

Acting there like wet tour tourism kind of bound. This could produce I'm confused as to why they would be so secret ever not allow other perspectives in the south in this discussion could be grant money coming in from Ngos or some other thing for heavy grant money. It could be a: U S. Go thing could be it could be any number of things. We do know that in some cases Organizations like this are in centralized or incentive, depending on which word you prefer to, preserve a certain status quo. It happens, it happen as well in Central America and Mexico where in some cases some countries don't want ass, the site to be found because then they are responsible for restoring to maintaining it. It also clearly. This is somewhat depressing. It could just be a matter of corruption. They may have

it's, not Greece, the right palms yet, but. They did allow him to like they just and respond right. Yet I mean they, they definitely did it wasn't even the Father of VAT Gps, whatever easy, what kind of Wang and on this I think he was even quoted at another time saying he was considering going in conducting some tests himself, but he's glad he didn't, because the whole thing seemed like a real debacle. And you didn't want to fly halfway around the world to be part of this kind of total ship show now. I know that, as of twenty eighteen professors, fighting over a three d image that was constructed of someone who was present it is never tt. Third, four hundred year old Mummy, that was identified as the younger lady, but that was too

we're back and eighty ninety eight and then tv producers get ahold of its boy. Yes, so I drama trusted while point being is. This is still a hotly contested issue and I think the back story of this whole. Never tv, aquanaut and situation is really interesting and kind of points to how history can kind of obscure the truth. Now, based on ideological disagreements and others didn't hear it through the magic of editing? We just had a break off air ourselves, We hope that you are enjoying this episode, because time got a little bit ahead of us. We have more famous tombs, but we are going to have to save those for another day. The second part of what has become a two part episode. We will rejoice next time as we stay in Egypt and travel further throughout

the ancient and not so ancient world. In the meantime we have to ask what, while you're way import to what benefit still see these searches having for modern civilization. You know some people. Oddly, I don't know about. Yes, the surprised me. Some people have argued in a very till the tearing way we should just let the past die and focus on the future. Why spend hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars finding these long gone long, neglected, tombs when there are people starving. You know him in the world should be spend that money saving people who are alive instead of finding the venerated corpses of people who have died or you know, spend it on sending us all the Mars there we go now. In case alone is turning in, and it said Do you think it's possible that some one alive today might know the location of one of these graves, or some of these remains So why would they continue to keep it a secret and

Have you ever come across bones that are purportedly from Thomas Pain? We want to know about it. Tell us about your buttons, don't send it to twenty three in me. I guess, but you know maybe one of the other ones he ancestry is clean. So far, I think it's an inevitable. Situation well send it. Somewhere else, I don't think it's necessarily bad. What are you guys? I agree issues valuable, stuff valuable. We in episodes about that you can find them all our website stuff there, you do know dot com or wherever you find your favorite podcast. You can send us the answers to these questions, I mean we're We're all over the social needs right for an instant Facebook, twitter, Social Emmi, ideas from its social needs, ales and IP. Yes, I said conspiracy, stuff on most conspiracies, have shown Instagram. If you

want to? Maybe builders are all this way you can get ahold of us check out, here's where it gets crazy. That's our one of our Facebook pages. It's our! I guess more of our member group. They have to join the o you think you have to know to get in is our names, and it is so surprising how many people It's so wrong. When trying to join that age. I don't know about you mad, but I really enjoyed. The thing is like the question is: can you name the host of the show? You know tat Matt nor too. Producer, Paul or Casey thanks for coming by the way? Casey, oh we also disrepute behind the curtain. If we think the answer is funny enough, we actually laugh which will be like go come on, let yeah. If we can tell it's an inside joke or something they're really, okay, they know what's going on what are some of the weird nicknames you guys saw mostly, what I see is.

Just strange, pronunciations herb, writings of knolls name just, really interesting and l, L, l e n, you? U elevator! Now I like it out as it is a good one. There was also k in O W, oh yeah here. That's that's what my favorite things and so you can join the conversation with us, most importantly, with your fellow listeners listeners and we we we drop, there too. Oh yeah, and if you don't do that stuff, give us call one. Three three, as his tea d, w e g K. That's when it three three stuff. They want you to know by the way in our numbers there, you just dialing annual leave a message if you'd like in you make it on the air. If you don't wanna do any of that, The one thing you can do it send us a good old fashioned. Even we are

spirits he had house of words dot com. As today I made my life by radio silence like TAT. You works by Katy period,.

But base by making menage. What's my name by reality, just the name a few and now I'm having an absolute glass sherry, some of their knowledge that have learned with upcoming somewhere on some land on envy, see I'm excited to welcome you to a brand new season of song Land and Sunland spike Ass, giving new insight into the magical part of some writing stove, as some of the best in the business can also the pioneers and up in colors, be shaping the hits you'll be listening to four years. We have an amazing roster. Tell it this! Isn't I promise you? You don't want to miss one single episode, Miss Sunland Monday nights at ten nice sensual can join us here, Solomons package as available every week after the show on the Iheart poorest, wherever you get your podcast miles. Yes, it's jerk from work, yes

Did you know that we hosted daily NEWS in culture podcast where people I gotta get caught on? What is happening? Are you? Yes, are you confused about that? You take him out the dailies like us to make her. You know and then but knew that you could listen to us every day. Twelve today talk What is happening and they could learn everything without feeling the life. Rain from their sole yeah, I think at the dailies. I gazed we like to give people a balance of just sit up news that they feel informed and just enough laughs that they're not overwhelmed and to have a decent day after listening listen dailies, like ice on on the her app apple pie, CAS or wherever. Fine pie. Gas are given away for free