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No, and I take us. They ve all the amazing. Sometimes frightening correspondence we have received from you either through our phone number one. Eight three three std dummy whitey K through or email conspiracy, at I heart radio or through the various other ways that you can reach out to as a show or as individuals. We mix this with red care. We stir it in a cauldron of concepts. We add a little bit of perspective. We take some time Johnson thrilled him in the mix for a little bit more chef, kiss mommy and that's what we uh bringing you every week we're bringing you today, our law, stir mail is goin to where they were We could have some surprises for you. There is one in fact that maybe an impostor in the capital of the United States, Matt

was a little little urge behind the scenes. When we asked him to tell us what this listener mail would be I think, Matt eventually you just went fine hypnosis but now we have. We have another a thread from our Facebook page: here's where it gets easy. They don't want to spoil just yet. No, I think I saw the same email that caught your eye you dug a little deeper on this one right, yeah, just a little bit. It's really just kind of a fun silly story, also about like guys in the age the very relatively recent age of it, seemingly not being that hard to like infiltrate the White House, or rather you government buildings. Let us say on Capitol: maybe the White House is a little trickier, but There's a story. Luckily, its anybody with nefarious intent, but we heard from a list

their who I will cause Steve who wrote vastly Heller, gentlemen and lady. I'm wondering. If you heard about the story Someone online contacting various legitimate news agencies plain dealer, Cq Roll call and the Washington blade. Sorry, it blade really weird, but I'm going to go with it and ask for press credentials essentially to ask questions of President Biden's press secretary, name, Jen, Saki, guess in the asylum. I have not heard this name spoken yet the person in question. Steve Rights has the name Casey Lego, Montague. And she supposedly represented the new group White House NEWS. Even though there is no such group on the other hand, were legitimate such things they covered nineteen travel bans ambassadorship any reactions to the Microsoft

and President Biden car relationship with President Barack Obama. The report does not go into detail on the answers this person may have been shifty in their way of asking questions. Would they do seem like questions people? Would? like to hear the answers you. I see this as nothing more than getting a shout out at the end of a pie, gas and the person who did this getting a facebook from firms two Casey Lego Montague. I took my ass. Thank you. Men and lady for making a great podcast that I look forward to every weekday day. Steve from Ohio, Stiff, Ohio It is totally true. Apparently that Lego was. It was not for nothing that middle name there. This person Casey Montague. Is an online like Lego, gamer and a lot of this does so back to covered protocols, because, according to this political article, fourteen

in the recent weeks. Members of the White House Press corps have asked questions on behalf of colleagues who could not be there or claiming their colleagues were not able to be there due to covid restrictions and protocols, protocols and its particular college. And that Collie goes by the name, Casey Montague and does not exist this is, in fact a while at least the very least not a reporter. So yeah this identity has been kind. Pop up here and there in the White House for a while now and that's all correct what what what Steve said. The outlet is: a White House which is not a real thing and refers to it, is and This individual has two actual twitter handles, which are followed by a lot of top Whitehouse actual staffers and journalists

and also as filed freedom of Information ACT, requests to obtain psyches personal financial disclosure forms, along with the disclosure forms tied to at least one other official the politico found out about, and that is the President's national security adviser, Jake Sullivan yeah Montague is is self. I guess just kind of a phantom at this point right it's pretty cool just being able to sneak in there get some questions off over time. Get out. That's it's pretty amazing! but also terrifying that securities. That lack due to that easily. One point of contention, though,

I believe this person was a roblox player. That's right! That's right! They. It says that there politico piece goes. Peace goes onto to report that they believe the Montague their activities were in short of a weird flex, for their online gaming platform of choice, which is roadblocks Anna LEO Sir. That's right, man put out enough. You know this clearly you're, not a roadblocks enthusiasts. Apparently, roadblocks players jokingly refer themselves as legos, evil yeah because they know they're not and they a joke exaggerate the it's a nod: it's like pod, champs and to community or whatever you like jargon these kids, I'm confused at this point, and actually show up in person, because the air, the political article says

we're times. In recent weeks, members of the White House Press Corps have relayed questions to press secretary General Zackie. From some one claiming to be a reporter, who is able to be there in the room due to covered protocols. I did, I don't believe they have met these reporters in person. That's see seeds it's all phrased or couched as in communication with colleagues or confidence. This is an industry and because of the size of it readily. Imagine you work for presidential administration and your jobs to keep an eye on the news and analyze. It said size, you evaluate, digesting, etc. Then you're just gonna start scooping up anything that feels like it considers itself a legitimate new source. Even if you do I will make no mistake. There's someone in the White House keeping an eye on info worse, they probably there not keeping

as close an eye on it, as they would say the Editorial Board of the New York Times, but there there definitely, trying to get as much information about reporters at about reporting outlets as they can. This. I think I can say this mentioned mention that little bit off the the of tation is passed for whatever number of crimes I committed in doing this, but I impersonated a reporter I got to interview former political candidate, former presidential candidate, Howard Dean, unknown. Years ago and their security was cartoonish Lee lacks- maybe I just looks like I might be a legit report from the local newspaper that I totally made up

I literally what I did guys. I had little or no books. I always carry, and I took the I was wearing a baseball or I had one in my car. You always have like a couple of changes. In your car and stuff, so everybody every has that you should I it's you go back and having a separate thing, yeah said modular. Okay, I don't want to get, but so I had his hat, I don't know where this baseball cap came from. I still haven't it's a Steelers cap, and so I turned it backwards and I was like boom. This is my Clark. Kent, the Superman move, I'm a reporter now and I asked Howard Dean, If I could ask him some questions and I didn't immediately like Zat Galifron Bacchus Eric Andrey because, because I didn't think I get that far so late. Partly through this conversation was maybe twenty minutes which a lot of time the guy's run for president

eventually. His handlers realise that I am I do what I was doing. I was just making this up. We wait. Story short. You know, though, no consequences for me. He said okay have to move on. I didn't have a press pass, everybody else had oppressed pass. No, check me for that I will in and out of this restricted area by just looking very busy on my notepad. This Social engineering is real and yes me wonder? No did Montague expect to get this far, because I certainly didn't I would think no. This sounds like the kind of prank. I wonder, Montague I am quite possibly he's, I mean gonna, my kid, the cheese up on all stuff all is kind of questions, and, honestly,

that a kid reporter sometimes probably ask better questions than some of these adult reporters. But that's just me and my hot take that's not a disc on journalists. I think journalists are great, but I think you know obviously there's certain agendas and all that stuff. But I think it's a fabulous story and we don't know who montague other than they're a fan of Roblox, and I will tell you robot. Played predominantly by twins and teens. It's not really a lot of like grown adults, playing roblox, there's a Maybe that's not true? No, I just was gonna say that's one of the dangers of having a Massive online game, where there are a lot of twins and teens, also playing with people be adults, and you never know that's creepy. I don't want to think about anymore. Ok, ok, that is true. That message when they take lightly for sure, but either

there, there's always twitter account as part of the kind the breadcrumbs this person is left, one of them I says, Casey, Lego Montague has, and doing will back and forth with some other twitter users, but there's no picture not to identify what anything about this the only thing with there. Right now is a nod to a previous strange newspaper. So we did. The background is of the late Prince Philip and the avatar used is Tricia Pie tests pay pilots, as is like a big you, two person, so

and roadblocks and follower of Youtube influencer types, no, no, not even influence, let's see what this Tricia pie. This is all about. I'm willing to bet that if I haven't heard of her it's the kind of person that my kid would be into, and all these like, twitch, streamers and stuff, it's totally under my radar. Let's see oh okay, she looks like kind of like a train wreck, real house, wives type person. So anyway, the jury is still out, but I think we could take a quick pause after Thou guys what you think and was you're running before through the incident. You know the it was there was before. My only regret. I just ask we have some more weird. Trolling, the government schemes of our own remit to equip break and then be right back with more listener. Man.

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Okay, we're back, I really quickly, it will save to say the Youtuber that I was talking about before the break Trisha Paytas now uses they them pronouns. This one would be respectful of that, as is literally a day old story, so I didn't want to misgender gender anybody. Sorry yeah, yeah bridle. We have returned we're going into a story I wanted to share with everyone a discussion we talked about off air on this is alive. But different went to try something new with you, fellow there's really to bring many of you along in this segment. We talk about our Facebook group. Here's where it gets we've been doing an okay job keeping up with the phone banks, but I wanted to give our facebook page a little bit of tea because I read something very interesting from Casper W and let me give you Casper's post and then we can start talking

about some? The troubling implications away. Casper's is asking here. Casper says I, time, poster long time listener. I have a five year old son and we're learning how to spell words- and I suggested we play hang men until he asked what it was. That's what I realize I never knew how dark of a game it is until I was explaining this thing to my kids, I said you have to guess the correct letter. Of a word or a phrase before a man gets hanged so we literally played a game that depicted a man being lynched in grade school and no bad did I am paraphrasing a little bit here, so I guess says Casper. My question for our esteemed podcast hosting community is what is the dark side of other games? We all played in our youth that wouldn't or shouldn't be allowed to

Thank you. Casper. There are fantastic responses. We can share some of these from your fellow conspiracy realist, but before we do know, Matt Doc, have you all ever thought of this? I was. I was surprised that I had never thought of the game in that way. I haven't really thought of. It came much at all along since I was a kid probably it's a weird concept of explaining a are things that are in our lives that we just haven't thought about. Since we were kids, they just exist within explaining that to a young person and the way tat we castrated, gonna think about this. While we continue to talk, if there's anything else, it comes to mind, but right now same, I can't think of anything. My dogs are doing something plain think maybe some very vicious game of hanging alright, the

Frazier, no wolf Definitely some point when I was an adult when I and we thought about then unlike have expanded, but I don't remember what the content was. They know of other things that when you're a kid you're like. Oh, this is cool like Peppa Pew and his antics, that when you're an adult you're like it's kind of weird, not a game, but just the thought yeah that's exactly where this conversation is going dark holiday, mind reader. I feel like this brings up two concepts and gaming is one of those cases, but it's a smaller part of the larger thing, which is just how sinister so many seemingly innocent in car cartoons. Kay, songs rituals of childhood appear when you look back on them as an adult.

It was in conversations with our Fred. I believe we need both all just who had spiders those awesome cookies. Last year I have to do in my cabinet. Motherly lay I d want a line, but I do have the otherwise a keepsake surface so take you would give ecologists I believe it was you who, I may venue may if it's one else, who noticed noted that there is a A weird approached games that we taken western world a game seems to necessitate a winner and a loser in an often cut throat, competition think about it, does not really how games have to be.

When we look at some of the world's was popular games or some other games. We all remember, as kids, we see some crazy stuff I'd like to shout out shine in who responded to Casper's posed by saying chess sacrifice whatever it takes. To complete a targeted killings so long as your aristocracy survives That is a chess. Which, as I said earlier, We are looking at here, just save the king, whatever you do no matter how her, what the collateral damage rights and summoned visas are literally meant to die. That's why they're on the board, but the There's another one. Samantha H brought up something I was not aware of concerning the history of cake walks. I We all workers who, according to demand the lemon died. Two and research on this. As she says,

my elementary school used to do. Take walks raise money for various things, and I just learned recently that it actually comes from the era of slavery, making enslaved people dad's to earn a cake for the amusement of slave I really so awful so many light. Hearted activities have such dark lots of routes. I had never heard this, for either ya, know how? colleagues, this is of those Google's. There would take it down and nasty rabbit. I literally just in history of Cakewalk, and it is it's terrible. It's like slaves dressed up in in basically but clearly as some sort of like maca kind of like you know, show

parading around. You know what this like giant cake in the middle. There are so many images. Retie is all my guys, very disturbing, but very fascinating, and so many historical images type as I had no idea near this, This reminds me of our previous work. I'm on the darker side of things that are generally considered good, like the Sierra Club also there's one? I was aware of Miranda a talks about ring around the Rosie and you guys are probably heard with ring around the rosy killing dying was about getting at some sort of like play. Great is about the sort of form of plague yeah. The sixteen sixty five great plague of London That is what that children's nursery rhyme is about. You can see, so many nursery rhymes, especially those that are european in origin, harking back to

really weird historical events: Lake Bobby black Sheep about the medieval wool tax. Ok, but will that doctor This is doctor. Goose, ok, guys come on. Don't ruin, there's daunting this from me. I highly doubt it I mean you visited pattered here. I I don't know I'm afraid the search for it, I'm brave, even though brave, is pretty decent by tore baby. You can do it together. Like learn our now. It's fine doktor, goose in originated in in Scandinavia, and it was the game for teach to teach children how to be patient and creative, and clever, though, could make it has Alan tucked goose, So there is also this idea: the balloon animals. This comes from grant ass, the practice in balloon animals at me some routes in aztec rituals. This one is

confirm to be clear, but grant and simple should trying to figure out whether its true that ancient tax would take intestines of animals or people and make decorative shapes out of them, but far be it for us to judge the Aztecs without having the proof of this we do know- or at least I like to think that most most Americans today are very well aware, Joe how many child songs or chance Were originally quite racist in origin and then had you had certain racial epithets change to animals, like rigorously way like Amy, mighty mile. Yes, exactly like that, when you know these, these were much more common two long ago, which is why the famous mystery, novel by Agatha Christie is known as ten little Indians today, that is

the original title, it strange ripe super strange, and I mean there's oak, there's free that, thankfully, with all our best intentions in general. I think we're all do that. Never ever And to say anything or accidentally, even you know, step in any territory that people would find fancy or in any way you know, dismissive in an IMF whether Ray, weird by gender, when I would ever, but there the things that we get stuck in Ireland, that we have only just recently realized are somewhat problematic and you have to train yourself that to say those things anymore. I do still think context is king it's all in the usage of things, but I mean certain things, words and phrases and games, even I think, probably should be cancelled, but yeah they re in a situation where you just gotta edge, yourself. I can't I can't stop doing it. Then I'm sorry, how dare you

through our listening. There was a time a while ago, when we manner we're were friends Hang out. Glory days. We will talk about non work stuff, but I get it. I pick it up. What you put down bad right so we have have more examples out there. I do recommend, checking out here's where it gets crazy. I and seen this first, because you can maybe share some of your own experiences or You can send your stories directly to us. We encourage you to do so, personally. I love hearing about this, because it's a form of hidden history and history, he's really as as have said before, history is not static in ongoing conversation histories of parliament's zest. That's the best visual metaphor, these things that happened may be written over, but they never really disappear and

You can learn so much about the present day by learning, the origins of the things that we take for granted with that being unless all heavy unpretentious in philosophical whatever, but with that being said, I thought it would be appropriate end on one of my favorite lines from this thread. I will give this completely Arbitrary award of her favorite comment to you Eric who, when asked about sinister games, responded by saying twister is just sex in a box. That's right time. Ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna cost for a word from our sponsor Tipp, your server we'll be back with one more piece of lister Rail, the boyfriend, Gas comes from new coppertone sport. Sport mineral now

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Oh yeah, ok, we're back everybody, twister callback, so dont be disturbed is so left hand Blue, already acquired lets him anyway, Why do you know what speaking of Let's go to this is a many this is a mini voicemail, we're not going to even really address this one, but we're going to play it right now, you're ready for it hi. This is Neil and I'm calling from my landline from my cabin in the middle of the forest, and I just wanted to let you know that you both have the sexiest voices- and I just love listening to you talk about conspiracy theories with your sexy voices, especially when the deeper voice,

guy goes in a sea. Boys love it. Oh no come on all right come on is perfect. All right. All right, you know less Ben right. No! That's me. That you I well. That's where we both aim. I can't tell, I definitely do say so and I need to do both of us there's three of us, which one is she talking about. I know, but they Mt it when we left hand blue who I will first off thanks so much things votes. What's your check it out the show and giving us a call, I am tempted to think that last person is supposed to be me cause some of our other fellow listers. Turned my habit of saying into a drinking game. So I hope that everyone is returned pan feeling better.

Help me, I got out all my you, don't you don't get to own, and then I don't know I'm just the first, when I from the U two days, in our earlier. You are our producer on those same forever. It's just my way of showing our colleagues and who, in conversation that I am listening to them as active listening. I think that's it one thing that I regret. I agree: guarantees it's funny, because I do find myself. Also saint voice, our, I guess he is out. So that was a plain aside. Let's go to our actual voicemail. What that wasn't it? No, it is by the way, I'm pretty sure hundred percent, because just that that drinking, but you know what we all have love actually have really weirdly distinctive voices. Have you noticed that shit

saving about the guy that tackles all the time and in yells at his dogs. So I'm feeling I'm feeling good sound like you. I need them Are you still have a content western, never mind? Nevermind was but Paul mission control decades. Was there, but is deafening. But here we gotta differ

we're going to play now this voicemail I'm going to lead it with this. This person says as a quote: it worked. I don't know how it worked, but it worked. Okay, let's listen hi! My name is Nora. I was just listening to your episode on hypnosis on the Texas Rangers hypnotizing people, I'm laughing because I'm from Texas and anyway I just think it's weird. I just wanted to maybe share my story when I was a kid. I was hypnotized to alleviate a medical condition that didn't respond to any traditional treatments and it's a long story, and I think it's really interesting. I've never known anybody else. I know that it's done, but I don't know anybody else or haven't met anybody else's. I actually been through that and you guys can give me a call if you want to hear my story:

to talk about that side of hypnosis and how the mind works, and it's really really cool so anyway. I hope that, for you guys, I love new, show thanks your podcast, so keep that part in that's great when we were getting geared up to record the show today, you actually had a you actually had us speak to or directly yes, I was phone with Nora, just hours, trying talk to her right before we start a recording because she mentions you know it's a long story right and my brain was go to. I need to learn more about this, so we ended up talking for quite a while sorry, you missed it. No we're

I was talking to her separately and then just happened to jump on the zoom. While I was finishing that conversation, but let it let me, let's talk a little bit more about this before we jump in. Have you guys ever heard of hypnotherapy being used to cure a physical condition likes thing dealing something that a dermatologist, ok, yeah. I have a. I think them common form of hypnotherapy for Physical condition would be something that is both psychological, such as addiction right to tobacco addiction, to alcohol or other drugs that ilk, but this sounds like you're talking about a skin condition, possibly Exma, something like that. Maybe yeah skin condition. Ivory

I've, my bring us exactly were years. Just went thinking about addiction, hypnotherapy for that kind of thing convincing using that technique to convince someone that they don't need a substance or to think about something else. When that addictive thing begins to occur in whereas case oh, I just want to point out I'm also drinking a graph of coffee as well sure monster Paradise, alter Paradise, delicious, muster energy all the stuff you want and don't want at the same time and its great and terrible, but wonderful, ok. So Nora was five or six years old and she was dealing with warts on her hands. She said there there were significant work. Group on her hands and she into several doctors in a small town and the doctors. You know they would do the painful treatments that men,

of us. Probably you have experienced before with some kind of growth needs to get him in. You're my arm bids back on my neck. They would literally use scalpel or scissors cut off a war and it would bleed like crazy really gross, or they freeze their freedom, The times had a couple of my hands. It were frozen off when I was younger. She said that she would do several doctors, physicians, that these treatments on her and the words would grow back and, moreover, more warts would grow in. It was a terrible situation they were on. I think their third or fourth doktor visit like again, nor as a five or six year old, with her mom and they were just asking another physician. What can you do for this? Besides these things, they don't work and it was Father and Son General Practitioner office, at least according to

nor as recollection and conversations with her mother, the sun was talking to them when the Father like listening. I guess around the corner he kind of peeked his head in was like hey, I a little something different than we could try. Mom you down and Nora's mom said: okay, let's try it, they went into his office and- and he sat Nora down this young child mom was there with her in the room and the doktor said quote Leon calmly. I want you to interlace your fingers, so but our we're doing this and then he said I want you, you stretch your arms out as high as they can go. So you see she stretched her arms as high legged stretch, and they kind of like ballerina style, valerina style. And then he asked her to separate her fingers and she.

Could not and she remembers, distinctly not being able to separate her fingers and then slowly and methodically transition to ok. Now I want you to separate your fingers and she separated her fingers and I guess he put her into a hypnotic state pretty quickly, at least to her recollection and after that, Nora went to multiple other sessions with this doctor and her mother and over the course not a long time. Her words completely went away. According to both her and her mother? And my you know, my thoughts are how right? How is this past? this can't be a thing. There's no way in the world that this could possibly be a thing hypnosis being used to suggest to a person or to a person's Dermot, Sir, Jermys to change the way its functioning. I am, I was hugely usually sceptic

when I still am to a large extent, but nor is absolutely convinced that this is what cured her words me. Ok, I did the thing is we know that there is. We know that there are studies I hypnotherapy as a treatment, words, which I just learned by the way are called Veronica Vulgarest gee, I'm in words backgrounds, in war it's also what the character, in Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory is named after Veruca. Salt was like, I guess man or maybe it was just a combination of two words, but a verruca is like a pustule or boil. It does seem strange because the the science, the science that seems to be confirmed in some

since, but then people have problems with some of the studies earlier, I think the biggest anyway four anybody's. Not I had no therapists you're a doctor. Is that Modern science is still struggling to understand the relationship between the mind and the body We know. We know that these two categories, these two things can influence each other in a reciprocal way like you or your gun bio can have an effect on you her mind on your mental function That sounds really weird, but it is, Also really true. So to me, it's not out of the realm of possibility that self, hypnosis or professional hypnotherapy created meeting some physical conditions, especially if they are caused by something.

Is mentally experiencing like anxiety or stress when people like their hives might flare up, because they're very stressed You remove the address the hives dissipate. I could totally see that I guess I just didn't see the relation between. I guess the words something mentally. There was going on some something psychologically going on because I've I, sceptical that your mind could influence your gut bacteria, gotta run by bright civically, but some things like shingles, for example, are caused by stress, often that is literally a me. It's not the same as a war, but it's it's a break out of unusual you no kind of bumps in they can they can manifest differently by every time I've known some has got a shingle, this usually surrounding some sort of stressful time in their life is very common explanation here, so I want to jump to those

some other things, your mentioning there been in just one moment. I just quickly wanted to mention a couple I brought up with, nor on the phone that we discussed. The first was that I thought Maybe she was being given some kind of topical ointment or cream alongside the hypnotherapy or some kind of, or medication alongside the other stuff, then she swears that she wasn't. She blazer mom. She spoken with Burma this time, it was like a story these to tell all the time about how the worst secured the mom doesn't think there is any other treatment or can recall, because this was forty something years ago when this occurred. The other thing was that I thought perhaps the doktor had suggested some kind of change or some kind of you. No product change. You know like a type of soap or some topical thing: that's going on her hands all the time. Changing peace, love, PH levels are changing, so

EL, the chemistry of her skin and the oil in the natural ills. That is also something can't recall her. They dont believe occurred, at least to the only two nor in her mother, they believed that hip whatever they hypnosis sessions, did that's what caused it. What'd. I want to jump to the thing you're talking about been because you can go to places like just gonna, give a url Jeff J E, F, F, Lazarus! how lazy a r? U S, m d dot com. You can check out on patient testimonials from Jeffrey Lazarus MD, who offers medical hypnosis for things. Words. He says he can use medical hypnosis to permanently remove warts. I was thinking I also found stuff from Pubmed, yes, which,

is pretty legit or tends to be so it looked like. Looks like eyes widened. In your way is reporting. Forty one consecutive cases of hypnotherapy used as a treatment rewards with thirty three cures and that's from ninety two and then even nine. In eighty eight and eighty eight there's a case report of a child with words in how they were eighty, two common warts on this one: seven year old, female removed through these hypnotic suggestion in it says This is what it says in the abstract. It states that hypnotic suggestion Sean's were given for the facial words to disappear before the words from the rest of the body. After two weeks, eight of sixteen facial words were gone with. No other changes me. It is

the implication that they shrivelled up or that they like dropped off, are aware what I guess disappeared, worked generated by the skin. Exactly perhaps interesting after three additional biweekly sessions. All eighty two words were gone. Oh, that's, good news, TAT, epithets one report right. Right. The other one talks about forty one consecutive cases so, like that's pretty significant, it also taught me a turn. I had never heard before. I'm I'm getting increasingly on board with this I've now going to say I'm a hundred percent certain of the efficacy in all cases get, but just in this short space of time I'm getting more and more pro hypnotherapy four words, or, should I say pro psycho Dermot

I am so predictable. All I need is a cool sounding word and I'm like oh yeah, that's legit, silent dermatology. I love that I think that's great. I wouldn't ask you guys what you think like is hypnosis and hypnotherapy in. Is it in the same realm as say something like re key, which is like you know, meant to impart? if force upon the by an issue that the hypnosis element to hijack your brain and cause your brain to do the thing, but another still a lot of like questions around around whether it works or not, and I think maybe the jury is still out at this weather, like science, is completely embraced. Hypnosis right, I just wondered what you guys thought if there were any parallels there in your mind, yeah, that's a good question, so hypnosis efficacy and it has credibility depending upon the application it's its with.

Be very I'd, be very sceptical of any kind of hypnotic regression, even with the best of intent on the part of the Hypnotizer, but with this it's interesting me, click proceedings for will be when they studied, what's called hip, no metalogy related to psycho dermatologists. They said the quote: A review of the use of hypnosis and dermatology supports its value for many skin conditions not believed to be under conscious control, so ethics aside, then, the best way to test this would be to see if you could hypnotize someone who doesn't have warts into having warts dastardly. At that point, it's almost more like witchcraft or something you know. I don't know. Maybe it explains witchcraft right. It would sell the power of belief. That's my point: do you now? I think it was enough.

Belief within one self that a given spell or incantation is possible and is in fact acting upon you, you brain could potentially have some sort of psychosomatic reaction. Yeah. I mean this. I dont know if you thought we're going to go to this direction with you Nora, but there is an australian practice or there was an australian practice of pointing the bone at people. Then you guys me I've heard about this. If someone coming a great great, sooner brew, taboo? Then they could be in mission, australian communities subjected to a type of execution called Kurd data K. U r D, a I t c h, a that sounds intense, is based on the continents.

Alone right they're, coming the with some hard conscience there. The the idea is that the power of the mind, a holy man. A wholly person can charge this ritual listing bone and through pointing this That's the victim, the they will create a curse and when someone is cursed by having the spoon pointed at them by this execution method, which is what its consider they become listless apathetic, they don't eat, they don't sleep there death often occurs within mere days of being cursed with interesting because it means dehydration. Starvation alone, cannot explain it. So it is possible, then we're getting back towards. I promise, but it is absolutely possible then, for

ones mind to be powerful enough to cease their bodily functions. Because they believed that they were legitimately cursed. So you could, if you can, control your own ability to die in that regard than worked scare me that hard right take an auto, shut down button. That says, I can see it and we talked about the power of belief, a lot on the show. So if, if, if you can convince, if a hypnotherapist could convince you that you don't have warts, would they go away? Okay, I'll check convince you that you don't have bad breath and you could have fresh minty breath without having to actually brush your teeth. I think they have to hypnotize the bacteria yeah, which is interesting? Well, hey guys! This turned out to be a great conversation, just as I think

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