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listener. Mail has a little bit of a theme. Gentlemen. I propose may be met. We we start with the correspondence you found and at night and then we go from there. Would you like a three act structure thing o most excellent, bill been sorry TED, I don't know why stallions. Yes, this message, Just an email, it came from a Lauren e Lorn. You know who you are. You said my husband and I are currently driving through rural Ohio and a billboard caught my eye. Some things thing radioactive groundwater, something something visit, Radium Valley, DOT, Org! Well, ok, I thought rural Ohio, and I can only read so much Wikipedia first, the website is brilliant. Early internet design being revived when it piqued my interest in this higher idea of radioactive variety.

Mit says it's in interesting supply chain. Scientific American says it's questionable either way I get this visual of our roads glowing green because of it all anyway of I wanted to find a random thing that might be interesting enough to send the all, and maybe this is it stay safe, learn. What Thank you so much worn for writing in as you know that the three of us as well as Doc holiday and just now I'm guarantee you just now. This is what she did We all went to radium valleys dot. Org his delight. It's beautiful good cause skies you're right, you're, right, you're right. The first thing you is a giant full on purple? This site is owned and published by c e c a ink whatever that is then below that you get a great photoshopped image of thunder

forms and lightning, and the nice little quaint wooden sign this cut. A pretty noticeable radioactive symbol on it and it says: well, two Radium valley where radioactive waste is good for business and good for you not to mention the classic glow effect. On the words Radium Valley, like Photoshop, nineteen. Ninety eight, when a one year I may know, has partially colorblind soon. I dig in this because, if these collar, her bright enough for me to differentiate. I can only imagine what it looks like you guys, man screamin screw. And leaving. It is an awful thing. Knowing that I'm getting some like small little it experience than you and I just look at a photo ban. That really does hurt me and I'm sorry, no yo. It was great. It's wouldn't, have it any other way tried on those color blind corrective classes, which was a soup? whole experience. Nothing do with radium. I hope

Linda and then you know, I went back I went back to the way yeah I like it. I like. Where am I dig it? I support you. Several rye, o Brien yeah, says the ABC abroad are evil. To jump into what else this thing says: is this are spreading radioactive brine be or I and II on our roads and land, and then it gives you the be seas of brain a all over the place, Brian being spread all over Ohio on township roads, county roads, private land and public land, but after it rains or the snow, is melted in all flows into the wells, Springs, ponds, rivers and aquifers that we all share and use be brought. Is radioactive Brian is really oilfields waste from gas and oil wells O d nor test prove. That teens, high levels of radioactive radium. This is true. This is true, see.

As for cancer, cancer is gone. By high levels of radium or can be caused, colombian or radium is one cause of cancer, however again and then, and then a nice big old, just stop brine yet signed the position talk to your neighbors opinion. Give yours too a politician put sign in your yard, so this is a website that is attempting to give anyone who visited information about this issue. Radioactive brine, any kind of tells you what it is a by product of the creator of gas and oil. Our OECD, pulling up, though those substances from the earth. So let's learn a bit more about it. By going to the EPA now there is a site, on EPA. It is. EPA, our Gov Slash radiation in then you'll be to find this from their it's on ten warm tee in o r M oil and gas

production wastes on this website. It gives you the information that Frank in this new thing, that we have talked about many signs on this show you, where substances are shot into the earth to break up shale the type of stone type of rock, formations of you know very chemicals and substances. It breaks that stuff up and that stuff shoots up through ground up into you know an oil pipeline, and then it can be process from there. Now there are all kinds of issues with the substance lets people. Hence, let's specifically talk about what this Radium Valley website is about? There are other things that come up within that shale, other materials other byproducts,

of them are uranium and its decay products forum and its stuff radium potassium forty led to turn and polonium to ten these. All radioactive substances there, naturally occurring radio, nuclei, new New Clyde's broke radio nuclear for summary, brain one of the changes to something else. Nucleotides. They ask not the same thing. I guess I don't want to see a new go buddies, yes, but These are also referred to, as naturally occurring radioactive materials or norm, and this is a problem. So what do you do with that stuff when you ve got some of it even just a little bit of it, because a little bit of it is up You can't just throw that stuff, then you know any old landfill. You can't put it in a Laker stream. You gotta really take care Let's radioactive waste, my friends, it sticks

for a long long time and it hurts everything that its near well. Here's why it's a major problem and why we even know a lot about this. There is a rolling stone article puddle January twenty first, twenty twenty three by Austin Noble and it is idled America's radioactive secret. This is a large investigation, a large article. We, recommend you take a look. If you have the time- and we recommend you take the time to look at it, but it is going to be a chunk of your afternoon set, or morning or whenever you get to it. If you do look through It, shows you and explains that this brine there we're talking about it's really salty water with some other stuff in it. There are ten gallons of this stuff produced for every one, gallon of natural gas or petroleum, the universe stuff that will become petroleum. They comes out of

round so ten to one ratio, this stuff, sometimes it's pretty contaminated with radioactive materials other times it is ridiculous Lee contaminated and there's no real weight and no how much reach radioactive material is in this brine or like one truckload of the brine until you test the contents the truck or a container that this stuff is put into their assuming look man, I know I know I know you ve looked at summit stuff. I just had a couple of them because I made up good for us to go all the way down the rabbit whole here, but truck drivers who move this? again we're talking about ten to one ratio for action here. So we're talking about a dozen and dozens and dozens of truckloads per day per site that is lacking in creating this stuff? They aren't wearing protective clothing, radioactive materials in many type many times

most of the time at least, that this article found in twenty twenty day trained, and they aren't even aware they re back and materials are on board their their load that there's that they're taking around to earn a dump cite the dump sites where they end up. They end up at a landfill men times are not capable of handling radioactive waste. So then, material ends up leaching back into the groundwater into all other in all kinds of water sources that exist river. That landfill is there, or even some programmes. There are using this brine because remember it salty water they're using it, in Ohio in a couple other places, de ice, the roads or to pre de ice, the roads as a preventive measure, right, yeah, yeah there's, there are so many man you're right, so many issues. So one thing we have to say is he shouted

I and daily as well, that cited some research on how this stuff is created. So I want to be very clear: the com, these racking or not- purposely poor, Radium into the ground so far, we know of when the water and the hydrochloric ass it another acids that they use injected sand and interact with this ancient shale. That's that action is where we see these radioactive things being created on the point about informed consent is huge We can recommend rolling stone article enough because you'll be introduced to Some trappers, who worthy mean canaries in his duty? coal mine that We also learned one of the street names for radium, which is terrify. You guys got this to write bone seeker lawyer

ok, you got any assembly, it get it. It actually can be responsible for bound cancer yes yeah I got it can be in braided into the skeleton and cause sarcoma us yeah. It's really scary stuff. Is this. Is this gentleman in Peter who is dry? a truck. I believe you is getting paid sixteen dollars an hour, at least according to that article, so there will be twenty twenty dollars and we know how the dollar fluctuate just getting. He was saying, quote a lot of guys are coming up with cancer or sewers and skin lesions that take months to heal. He goes on to say that he experiences regular headaches and naga numbness in his fingertips and face in joint pain like fire and that's because again they are wearing anything. You know too check them their wearing a hard hat. Steel toad boots ends. Standard known, fairer,

their torso and everything it s about it, really really creepy stuff again. If you continue down that order Oh you'll learn exactly how radioactive some of this substances have been there. A gentleman specialists and I'm not even looking for article honestly because zoom recording, everything is causing this giant art. The load super slowly, but there's an export here. There was saying he had a beaker like a small standard. Scientific beaker of this stuff sitting, his lab, and he was using testing in it happened. Just fall. The glass broke in this brine spread across the floor. He saying immensity radically it there shut down that entire building, or at least that side of the lab, because would be dangerous for anyone else to work in their until was fully cleaned up in its very difficult to do. That and studies are currently limited,

is this is an ongoing story said the industry's view? The people who condone or advocate. For this practice As far as its currently instituted they'll say, something like yes there, he's radiation exposure, but it is statistically insignificant Long time was yours. You know we ve pointed this out before a lot of stuff. It can have you low level exposure to radiation like bananas, for instance, but they're not gonna, give you cancer. That that is what I would say is the difference that industry advocates seem to be missing radio is the hope, is not a hot. Take it is more dangerous than a banana. Something called a bone. Seeger again is very dear

from stuff, you will find in the proposal. I think I haven't seen bone seekers in the protocol. Maybe there next to the other weird stuff like dragon What one of the big problems with bone seeker is that its radiation within these substances- the kind of shoots off in attaches itself to anything in the environment. Right back your skin can be blocked by your skin. It doesn't get into your inside. You may be alright, but the worst part is if it gets onto asked particles in the air bitter small enough for you to inhale or ingest, then, It's in your body, that's when the bone seeking comes it and it's it's really really dangerous, and if you're just thinking about the thousand. Of driver truck drivers any other specially. Who were there were Thirdly, interacting with the substances taking it I hope, putting it into a container opening it up

the brine into that other container. Some of it gets off, gets on their hands, maybe, breathing under the f. Maybe there breathing sometimes humans, breeze general criteria but it's a very trendy, think really his its it just with got popular than just stayed in more dangerous for them and that's terror. And hopefully, there's gotta be something to change. What's going on there to help the workers, the scariest part is everybody else all the bystanders. They have nothing to do with anything that's occurring here and this stuff's getting into their drinking water. It's going into the land is hurting the animals, the it's. It's scary, and again we're not saying that the companies fracturing purposefully trying to irradiate radiate. Everything is a really unfortunate side product, one of the unfortunate side, products of the process itself well said issues like a call for us to do.

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Of english descent with family members traced back to the third fleet. Yes, We're convicts lashed criminals and I know a little bit about this topic, but not enough to hold a conversation nor enough to comprehend its impact on Australia's Aboriginal and Tories straight Islander community. It is a government. Spirits see that actually took place with the effect still being felt today, more than fifty years after In fact, I am unsure if this topic is no outside Australia, I'm sure if you covered or touched on the topic on previous episode, and I am certain that more australian should try to understand the damaging ramifications of these government policies and how impact it so many lives and continue to do so. Today, I am speaking of Australia's stolen generation would be thrilled for you in the team to take a look through these stuff. They don't want you to know lens and

your thoughts or even if this is something that you ve come across in the past, I feel the lesson That should have been learned during this time of Australia's dark. History could well be taught across the globe to learn from our mistakes and rent Do you them more so now than ever before I end Benson, you have included a couple of great leads starting line. One thing that I really appreciate that you did here was you went directly to the official government sites which will always have a stance on this sort of stuff. How effective is that stands versus how performative? Well, that's that's a matter of debate We have not talked about the stolen generation in depth on the show before but Matt. No, I know that as you

were hearing this letter you're immediately thinking of some disturbingly similar situations in other countries, often in the Anglo here as well. So exactly are we You have talked numerous times on the show about indigenous peoples that were either moved, moved out, forcibly or were indoctrinated, nor both or just the earliest stricken with plague where something right, lakes, to send two schools boarding rules, the children are stalling and forced to no longer speak. Their native language I usually religious ideology is forced upon them. This is happening. Candidates happened in the United States and this occurred in Australia as well the victims of this Multigenerational practice are known collectively as these stolen generations or the stolen children. It's terrible because somewhere

around the beginning of the twentieth century. Early nineteen hundreds this practice began and continued in to get this. The nineteen seventies Some of our listeners today were alive when this was happening, which is while insane and envy the high level part of this. The easiest way to explain it is that there were a lot of average. Children that were in the parliaments of the time described is mixed race. And the government of Australia noticed eggs what you'd referenced earlier, nor the catastrophic decline of the native population after after Europeans arrived so this. This is to a number of factors. Of course, violence on the part of the car. Nice, your side and, of course, I entered

action of new diseases right, which is tremendously dangerous, and not necessarily intentional right of what the government did was we made this assumption? Is it look at how population is just plummeting there. No way that this native population able to sustain itself, they are doomed to extinction, and so they said we can take mixed race children away from their families and their communities, and we can train them to quote work in white society and they will grow up and naturally Mary way people and be further assimilated. The allotted the phrases that were used in this reasoning are tremendously from This Lee Offensive today, I'm sure folks.

And I'm sure were familiar with lotta these phrases. We don't need to give the maritime, but what what happens then? What happens when you steal children, that The question then, is the same. One that occurred in Canada seem one that occurred in the. U S eye, it seems there are tons of knock on effects, anxiety, depression, PTSD suicide rates rise, alcohol abuse, kids are missing school, there other, like stress, causes so many other physiological ailments and this situation got more recognition in a book publishing ten eighty one by an historian professor, named Peter, read this book the store generations really propagated story, and I would pause it

let a lot of people who felt like. Maybe they had a limited, terrible experience and let them know they were not alone but were in fact victims of a much larger conspiracy It just blew my mind. You guys the nineteenth seventies Faulkner was write. History is not all he has indicated that it was the same. Like way. I when I realized that apartheid was unlike early 90s. You know that it just you think stuff like that, is relegated to the like trash dump of history, but it is much closer than many of us would like to believe and in two thousand and eight then, I'm Minister Cabin Ride issued a public apology the indigenous people of Australia, but that doesn't that doesn't put the horse back in the barn as it were, there is already known,

ongoing problem with what they call under policing of child welfare in aboriginal communities. Tons of discrimination times of lake. Might my question here, for you guys, it goes back to our earlier episode. Does this count as a form of genocide or an attempt at it in Sheffield genocide? Adjacent, let us say, yeah, it's it's issues on a larger scale. I mean real it is women. Talking about the energy and generational trauma, they guessed passed down. What that, how that affects each individual persons, and then we, how come you need to be able to work together and be successful individually, as well as together, yeah minutes that is, it is weird, it's slow motion, genocide and you can back at our previous I pursued on why defining things

as genocide, is a very specific legal matter right per the urine, wouldn't be alarmed, please I'll. Take my not just because I say this did not pay. I mean it's I, like the phrase genocide adjacent, ensure feels, like that's, that's unfair linguists compromise of this, and by the way there there was another program that ain't. You non indigenous children, in these the victims of this are described sometimes as the white lost generation. These were not indigenous children who were kidnapped from their families

their mothers were deemed unfit whatever unfit means in this regard, and that continued till the nineteen eighties also portrayed as a greater good scenario for society, this terrible? Because, as we talked about with some of the foster care things we discuss before on a case by case basis have a look at some of that stuff, where maybe there is a child and need to be removed right, but then, in a locker cases, child doesn't need to be removed but- removed anyway, or did you know there all kinds of really Delegated scenarios play there, but to imagine it as a greater good thing. Other donor seems tough and, of course, to add add some abusive icing on this genocidal cake. Ass. If you assumed that these children were abused, while in this carefully

You are unfortunately, very correct: psychological abuse, sexual abuse, physical abuse, And they were also color shamed, their guilt tripped about their original communities. Because they were they were parts they were taught that they could aspire to. Improve themselves by complying with this other culture. And then assimilating as much as possible into it, while still never being quite as good. You know what I mean, what a terrible situation to put this in right now We we'd have to dive into this further. But right now from what we see, there are various initiatives to help loans and the survivors things like the Healing foundation, which was established in two thousand and nine

The Morrow Molly Programme, which was by a survivor of the stolen generations blight there. Hasn't been at this point, far as we can tell, there hasn't been like a govern. Wide reparations scheme or something to address the overall issue and its top. Because how do you? How on earth do quantify that? mean like. How do you give someone their childhood back? The technologies not area, which I it sounds like a weird thing to say, but I mean by what I mean is if we want it ass, a species to make this right, we do not know how to do so now. Besides you help this generation NEO Asthma. You can get leg up. Gonna, get him on more equal footing,

It comes to opportunities, I mean that's one way to do it especially monetarily yeah, this is one of the only ways to try right Now do you out. He traced out EU unravel gordian knot. This labyrinth team tat Blue of tragedy We, I think we should examine this further in depth. In a later episode and in the meantime, we were preparing for that we'd love to from you know where we ve gotta lot of great listeners in Australia. I saw I I only assume that some of us. The audience today have had, second hand or perhaps first hand experience with either this practice or the consequences and the ripple effects they created. So on the case. We want to hear from you. As always, you are the most important part. An issue to end on just eight were like a slightly less bleak note.

Well, there's one important thing: we missed from formats earlier segment, which is that Radium Valley, DOT Org, has a mass got his name is more than this. It is a little like bad clip. Looking spooky skeleton with radioactive symbol, medallion sort of like Allah, the flame of slave clock, it was that they can you see like air brushed on the side of a bad, carnival, haunted house we're coming take asked me more. Also, as may be interesting fashion, choice to have a sleeveless, Nolan and maybe that radioactive sign is a brooch buddy. You just say that so that this does not completely depressing, and little bit of foreshadowing, because we're gonna pause for word from our sponsor and then returned to his story. The ties back to

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of what this very controversial practice of fracturing, does and one of them is the kind of thing that, like the oil and gas companies would like to think what would like you as the consumer, you, as you know, the average human person to think is a conspiracy, but, alas, pretty sure it's it's not it's actually a very much cold hard fact and we got insiders scoop from a listener who asked very specifically to remain anonymous and the email goes like this.

Presumably also other way ass to be anonymous, because this is having their identity associate with female could have damaging effects on their career in the oil and gas industry, but also did leave us their information. So we can that this information confirm this. Human person is in fact who they say they are an associate with industry and all that checked out so us I live in Midland Texas, the heart of the oil and gas industry and one of, if not Lee, heaviest frat locations in the world since the right, popularity and effectiveness of hydraulic fracturing in the industry. We have begun to have minor tremors over the past decade, maybe longer with the occasional small scale earthquake about three months ago. We had a three point: seven, not large, but very

feasible magnitude earthquake. That was mentioned once in our local news and then never mentioned again as if it was some secret that accidently slipped out working closely with my company president of an Owen G pump company. He eluded that the epicenter of the way was very near a field where our pumps are utilised roughly ninety five of them. These things are massive bio. It I can't say, were responsible for the that. But it is an open secret in the industry that we franking as a whole are definitely the cause of the uptake and earthquakes in Texas, New Mexico and Oklahoma yeah yeah. That's that's about as close to the inside scoop. As you can get thank you so much anonymous for for sharing the story and, as no said, ah cooperating with a slight vetting a little bit of this is legit. I need facts about MID,

and are correct, and one is shout out again. Our earlier episode we had leave was called something can people manufacture earthquakes. The answer is yeah kind of, but not on, not necessarily purpose and not in a way that is a target apple or useful life. We don't have We don't have some kind of earthquakes. Satellite right now we do have is a disastrous consequences of the Earl of tracking technology. Then just objectively mere fraction. Is it impressive? It's an impressive idea, it just we we got to it without understanding the true cost, I would say, would either completely agree and inasmuch as like you now pharmaceuticals, to be valid and tested, and you know, with trials

our control groups, and all of that, it's mine, To me, I would be interested to know that the back story of fracture how was tested outside of the field, a museum of the kind of thing we really have to kind of field testing there's no way to stimulate. Maybe there is, let us know actually Enea fractures out there, or seismologists, but what we do now, one of the states that are the anonymous listener mention was Oklahoma and there is a pretty fantastic article in scientific American by Anna accoutrements. That was really sons of timber. Ninth between nineteen the headline, even if injection of free King wastewater stops quakes, won't, and the reason for that is, I mean just a little bit of franking Wanna wine. This is really oversimplified, but essentially these drills are carried to the site in numerous heavy Munich trucks and assembled I they said I was like twenty or thirty

truckloads for one single drill put together, and then there is a like up like a pilot hold its drilled down to about a hundred feet below the deepest I the offers are important because these contaminated rate- contaminated water. We're talkin about, can actually seep into the awkward, the groundwater and all that that's a separate issue. Then there's like a cemented steel casing. That's inserted down and then that goes down to about a thousand feet above the underground area, where, like the pockets of oil and gas, are trapped and that's when they inject they, they do some other things cementing and testing and make sure the pipe is, is solid and terms of like how much it'll be it'll hold. If it's like, you know, actually not going to leak. Any of this and then they complete the well and then the Frankie begins, which is essentially just pumping this liquid, deep, deep, deep down into the earth, and it's not

magic. It's just ninety nine point: five percent water and sand point five percent chemicals that you youtube find around your house, nothing, lakes, supersecret or orgasm, Terry right acids exactly I left us, then mega high pressure to the point where it starts to kind of seep into these perforations. In the rock and the shale and that then freeze the oil it's trapped, and then this is done repeatedly you now until the banana. The water is also there's like wastewater. That goes into these wastewater wells, but here's the thing this causes fractures, Indeed, deep, deep ancient plates and we remember from geology you know, or physical science, What happens when plates fracture rub against each other? They create

tremors you now they re making. Those tremors can then led to earthquakes and even after the rigs have been, you know, picked up and moved on. Those cracks remain, yeah Stew stepped back a little bit. They. I think I think we often can gets just how established tracking is because a lot of people didn't hear about it in the me stream until several years ago, but you can trace the birth racking all we back to the eighteen sixties and stop the weird, Looking about hydraulic racking Milly begins Like the nineteen forties, this has been around for a wild eyed. There was an economic factor that made it more profitable to engage fracturing or on a wider scale, and now that the structure is in place. Of course, people knocking

incentivize to stop it, but the the Permian Basin is what we're talking about we're talking about a Texas it. Like since February nineteenth the two June. Twenty twenty in that time frame. There were at least ten quakes in the area, ranging from two point, eight to five point: zero on the Richter scale. I dont know. Have you ever been in an earthquake or a temblor? I never have been of you. Yes, it's true and with it when it happened. I was in an area that was prone to these smaller quakes. So I looks like by far the most cowardly per in the room. I was having breakfast with lovely, family and the kids there were held, people are Larry. Kids, there is one in my age and I was not avenue

I didn't understand how people, just like everybody, just kind of braced and held whatever they were holding like. They picked up their glasses and the table with get a little and then what was done. They put their sit down any went back to eating and it's yeah how things can, how quickly some things can become normal. This is not normal that we need to point out. Most of those quakes that I just mentioned are coming from of about three miles in the ground or five kilometer? So there is something there is some like to your point. No, that's messing with the surface the industry's careful how they talk about this then you'll get some conflicting reports. Opinion, Who you ask about when you ask about the degree to which free

game can effects were induce earthquakes, but your point, seismologists Anzio, physicists all agree that this technology- please role here, one weird being a feller geo, physicist, DAWN Blake men from the next Earthquake Information Centre, who said its fairly common for places like Wes, Texas, to experience some degree of small earthquakes. In fact he said you can find it like, he almost any area of the. U S can experience a small earthquakes and some of them are so small that you might not notice. You know what I mean unless you had detector some sort or you had technology that could alert you to it. So you don't have master respect

the experts war being careful with the science and in try not to be hyperbolic, but man. It looks like there's a pretty solid case. Wouldn't you say absolutely I mean you know. I'd say you want to get too deep into the weather. Smokers fire situation, but I mean it this way the scientific american article really makes a great case you now in terms of the science behind it the seismic energy and the article they actually speak to Oklahoma Chief seismologists Jacob Walter. An article

First, a jig Walter likes to remind people that what is transpired knuckle home over the past decade is unprecedented in human history. He is Oklahoma, state seismologists and he is referring specifically to and a surge of earthquakes, unprecedented in the history of the state since fracturing was introduced and we're talking about a significant increase in the percentage of high magnitude, earthquakes that originate at these deaths, where this racking activity is taking place because, according to the size of colleges and also a well known hydro Just there was quoted for this article. This is where the connections happened between these deeper false that are under more and more stress, and they can really as more and more energy from deep down. That starts a chain reaction that can lead to these higher magnitude earthquakes and there is actually, when a study, those

in July of last year, in proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences that used modeling to explain how pressure from this wastewater disposal- and I was talking about earlier- can also trigger earthquakes zone, has multiple elements in the in the process of racking. That can lead to this kind of stress on these deep ancient faults. Yeah. This is an important point. Here is a question for everybody: obits. But the two stranger question: what are we going to reach a point where we can no longer refer were to some natural disasters as natural disasters. What happens when a big when he hates in two thousand and eight I have some eighty thousand people died or missing in China following a seven point, nine earthquake seven point on the Richter scale in Sichuan and right now, the experts believe this earthquake was triggered by a huge rest.

One three hundred and twenty million tonnes of water just sitting over a fault line that doesn't feel like some supervillain and to make an earthquake, but it does feel like it. It does feel like we have to College Schuman rule the human role in this and infraction by the way, is a huge, huge industry. No one's, really sure about how you can about how to continue fracturing without running and ever increasing risk of manufacturing earth. You know what I mean like dont frack around the Santa Injurious, guys don't do it become a really divisive political issue, because you know as leg Russia. As the new administration is there as lacking a left. Leaning politicians are in terms of like making environmentalism and therein you know, increasing regulation on these types of operations are especially on things that pollute fracturing, as is almost considered like off.

Limits, because it's such a money maker and such a slam dog to get the job done that it's almost like even something the laughs, doesn't want to in touch because it would absolutely alienates so many industries and then constituents right yeah, it's true. It could be. Why should we said in previous episode its messing with the money, What's the matter you money you're here, what is one of the most harshly enforced unwritten laws in the United States. So we now we don't know where this will go, but there there is a solid case that this practice is approaching a euro conspiratorial level. We me be in a situation where not too many years from now leaked documents

that proves some of these large corporations, knew, were explicitly aware of the dangers of this practice and chased the prophet lying instead. Just like the pot and tough line just like the sugar industry, just like all gathered there. Actually too many examples play But what do you think they will see some new stuff from the light? I do think that I forget it, go on time, because these are some very protected entities. You now and then also just back briefly what I was saying Biden has made a move to limit oil leases for the time being imposed the sixty day. Suspension and then this week, when a step further or a moratorium on new oil and gas leases on federal land and water areas, so he is putting in some restrictions, but his approach since yell a big campaign, the thing

I said, item herb something that was used against him. Was this idea that he would ban tracking it is clearly not gonna happen. I hated forever, or so yeah, yeah, yeah right the on the potential, you stay? No massive energy industry is is a huge deal and also you know we're talking. We can forget the were taught like human beings who have careers this in this industry, we're talking about real people. The problem is were also to about real earthquakes. I mean our listeners the case in point. This is someone who gets their livelihood from this type of activity, but also clearly feels a little divide. On the issue. Right yeah, I mean it's a problem. That's gonna be Creasy widespread in the age of the anthropocentric. Fancy name for humans are messing. Stuff up

just what history will remember this era as, but we, of course, don't want to be to disturb you. About this, we know we know that is exciting sites. In this field. We know that there are some pretty amazing, highly impressive research initiatives into alternative forms of energy, and I hate that the phrase alternative forms of energy got this kind of hippy Eskimo. Asthma attached to it like one when people say alternative forms of energy, there really talking about super old technology. In a new way stuff that existed way before we. Figured out this whole oil fad. You know I mean boats were wind power right. It is not a creature,

thing to say: windmills existed people use the sun in the energy from it for various other things, so I I think, there's a world where we can not manufacture earthquakes? I would love that ideal, but I think we could all we can all get behind the idea. There will be great to not have more earthquakes. I dont think that super divisive, but we appreciate your time anonymous. Thank you for writing in thank you, two hours, earlier listeners massively appreciate your insight. As always, we want to hear from you, so we try to yourselves easier find on the internet. You can hop on over to our Facebook grew page. Here's where it gets crazy, some of the best minds in the business on the deep, officially the best page on Facebook. I think that came straight from Mark Zuckerberg, but I haven't check this text

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