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hello. Welcome back to the show. My name is met our colleague, nor is on an adventure, but he will return shortly. They call me, then we are joined, as always with our super producer, relaxes code name, DOT holiday Jackson, most in would lead you or you are here, and that makes this stuff. They don't want you to know it's time yet again for what allow our favorite segments your mail, where we get to share stories around the world from your fellow conspiracy realist with you, and these This episode especially, is going to be a grab You know our show prizes transparency whenever possible. So just put all the cards on the table met with revealing too much. I think it's ok to say that this is

Dynamo momentous day for us, we are reaching the fruition of a long running, very secret enterprise. Yes and credit goes to you, sir. I can't believe it's happening happened. Will happen. I don't know it's all things at once on a time is a flat circle, and so is the secret project team effort. Team effort yet knows that here, because, if he is the first investigative face, tattoo show that's part of the secret project, I get it, I get it. I hope of getting happened, just read, it so people really cool face tattoos, I just don't see, knows a face tattoo guy or either of us. Frankly, here I happen king for something I need to get my first one at some point, so you're gonna get a tattoo. I should right. I should get at least one fifth of the fact that these freckles are gonna connect themselves, so arrogant,

there you go to draw and myself a lot, but what I liked about that was, if you get tired of it, you can just wash off scare. So that's what we should all do. Make a really good artist friend and of them every once in a while make something. Credible on your body. Keep it for a little while the men who washed off and I have so many commitment problems. I can't even get a temporary tattoo. That's like the whole afternoon. You know what I mean. What kind of person are you going to be at the end of that with my pony, usually that I've seen a lot of poverty, I wonder, though, I wonder what rule tat you play in white folks, or in fairy tales. Because of our first letter day: we received a delightful Marian during note there I thought we could use this to kick off today

Oh and by the way, folks, today, Matt and Code Name Doc and I are going through We're gonna try to go through as many as we can as many phone calls as many tax stand. Emails adjust just because this is kind of like girl scout family time forests. what I mean we mean what we say we want to hear from you and now I want to put us on. Hopefully again in endearing note I would to read a letter that just came in today. That is to you, sir. I dont know if you ve read this one yet I know I have not our right will hear you. Oh This is for the Lucy Age and the title is the title caught my eye: Matt would not survive a fairytale diet. That's good, I alone am reiterating along with ok, I kind of disagree for the record by the title grab my attention: ok, ok direct!

so Lucy Door. It's it's not a hippies, so Lucy says hello, conspiracy, realist, listening to the fleet, which podcast as a folklore nerd is very entertaining, will o the wisp type for is one of my favorite types of stories really grabs me by the noggin. They think with these worries is that they are mostly about dangerous creatures, rather than being the sort of harmless playful type, that some less would picture, most of them are malicious, it crash me that man is so down to just troops after it. No disrespect to you met love, you met, but that's a bad idea, or maybe not. Maybe they are just there for a good time. Living if you want a list of what not to do in a fairy tale, I've got some items for you, re pie cast is always have fine, try not to die dashing after strange lights, As for the agencies, I think well Lucy. Fifa, you don't know, but I give- and I've heard this from many people. I give

good hugs and I just want to hug that light in, and I have a feeling that if I just embraced it it wouldn't you Maybe burn me from the inside out or maybe it would end it at least be. trusting yeah, you know carpet deal and Lucy yet do send in that list. I have a couple of other list. I pulled from different works folklore, and I would love to see how our list compares also met. As for a second, I thought you were going to say. Well, you know about me is I've been told they give a hundred and ten per cent I don't know due to its true, I got I prefer. So I'm just these tales grab Lucy by the noggin that that's good less doesn't seem dangerous is opposed. The weird by the ankle. Lord LA the elbow anything

If you buy the ankle, don't trust it, don't trust it, don't trust it. You can put that up. Therewith don't die dashing after street flights in the world of good advice? I soon real preceded it This also gives us a chance to talk about something. It's been, on my mind, a lot witches I why You hear more stories. War works of folk lore from non western world Right Blake, we ve had a great time die. being into stories of crib deeds and legends that are unfamiliar to a lot of people in the: U S, or maybe even the English speaking world in general, so keep em coming we also have this. Is oh by the way that this is a word salad, rambling, set up to our first voicemail today, which will leave comes from a biologist,

who's gonna, take on something that I think is interested both of us in love. Our fellow conspiracy realist for a long time which is fought for right here s, this mess, It comes from someone called the carbonate. Hey guys, I love the show great work. I am always impressed by the attention and care you bring the summer things that are often left untouched, and I was really interested in your conversation about my medic warfare and as a biologist. I was thinking about just how dear nay is essentially information being replicated and spread through cut of these carbon based systems, and it's not entirely. The similar from a meme is being spread through these sort of electronic systems, and so a centrally life is just the reputation and repetition of it.

Mason and a kind of break me out a little thinking about means in effect that day through spread and they do replicate and in a way they may be biological organisms. So when you ask and whose controlling the main like, whose generating this I almost got to think that they may actually be organism under themselves in a way that we are not her dismally used to thinking about and ask the meme may be, seeking their own ended fell provocation using other host. In the same way, a virus is a replicating added that needs to use a cell replicated. You know next generation, I think maybe I could be. The sampling were member using up

as their host and replicating and they have taken upon their own, their own evolutionary success and ever trying to spread in the same way that living organisms bill. I think the same could be true for corporation nation state religion and other ideas is essentially these replicating non biological organism. Biologists have terrifies me to know when, because life I believe about machine and also out about, but you guys might. Get a kick out about interpretation, and I wonder if you think that potentially meme could be organisms in their own right and when we kind of act that we created a new form of organism and really that bad or out of the bag, you can call me the carbon is, and I use my voice on Aristotle. The way, let me show you Papa, you work icebergs yeah, that's the kind of conversation that we have when we're not on air. Generally movement.

after there's way more now, my at least I think it's it's true. It's something we have. We have talked about as a group. The nature of what defines in organism is it? Is it through behaviour? Is it through physical your boots aware: what the line. You know it reminds me of the debate over what there are not a virus could be considered alive right or if it's just a thing, that is almost like a piece of technology. You know, A virus does not suffer from a lot of the quandaries of, distance that that haunts the human species, but this is first off there were aware of that. We are all aware of viruses. Think we don't think viruses, think rights

right exactly which it may be is a bit supremacist of humans, but oh, but there's something fastening. First, we have to thank you, the carbon it for lending a professional perspective here, since or biologists. People might treat this this, idea. This concept of yours, which I agree with and think, is quite beautiful. They my treat with a little more credence. Then, if it were, you know just that, let me going well and for me it is breaking out the way, describes virus rep. Caning dna through a carbon based system, verses and electronic system for a memory in you, you have to go I have to go back to all men guesses biology classes, were learning about how a Iris actually injects that dna into a cell that sell takes our dna, replicates it explodes with,

same stuff out of it Roma seem DNA out the right. continues to replicate and it does feel man. It just feels like it's very similar human mind when something like a meme enters, and we just want to share it. We have links, I feel, compelled to shit to share a really good meme and a wonderful assuming you have something like that. Maybe oh yeah, definitely eighteen. This is something that I speculated on a number of years ago, and thank you as as always for humoring. Those kinds of ran, switch to be clear are just my opinion, but I believe that compulsion is true, I think it's something that many people have felt and IRAN did me the carbonate you might.

reading an article from Smithsonian called what defines a mean by James Clique in two thousand and eleven, where bleak talks specifically about just the aid yet that you and end ice on our side had been kind of speculating about independently. He said is that information now can behave like human genes. Ideas can replicate mutate and evolve, and we definitely see that in a world of means. I success will mean just becomes kind of a base format. and we ve got also shout out to work. So our consumers really like Holly, who Will every so often make a stuff? They don't want. You no specific mean that you pokes find us. They well deserved way. We earned it usually happens and that specificity is just built upon an Earl

your pre existing concept? I I had this tribute years ago, man in a route, a short story about it, where NEA The idea was that way too. people share an emotion of some sort, whether it is empty or may be deep affection for one another that that in this world fictional peace, that idea becomes alive on its own rights. oh it's just that! It's a different perspective. You know that there are. Cliches balikh, all the things people do for love and so on, and so on that story there. In that perspective, the people that are in love or the people letter? You know very much opposed to each other there being compelled or for to do things not of their own volition, but because of this non tangible entity,

this motion as a life form. I fear that that they spawned rights right It all started with a really good hug perspective, with a really good one way or another and these ideas you know they might sound abstract bite. Will come to see spoiler in our mimetic warfare episode they're, not as abstract. as they might sound at first in preparation for that. If you, if you want to do a little homework. Folks do check out Smithsonian article. I love this idea of conversation. I love the idea that the toolbar or the thought form you know, I'm mainly because cognitive and philosophically can take us to some very interesting places like this

I mean at break oh yeah, why it has taken the last thing I want to throw me. I just looked up a few things for anyone who wants to further check this stuff out. You can find a website called philosophy. Talk, dot, org, and there is, I think, is- gets a programme from twenty thirteen that specifically discusses if higher. If means are viruses of the mind, pretty cool, you can Youtube video, you can watch the interview. Someone named Susan Blackmore. She is really cool insight on it, she's from University of Plymouth early. She wasn't twenty thirteen and the other is an interview with Richard Dawkins stood on Wired and its best? legally discussing the word mean that I suppose he coined at least according to article. He did in his book. The selfish gene, but it will not speaking of an internet me like in the way that we imagine them now, it was any idea,

we're concept that basically travels and replicates through culture. We just have to think about yeah and let us do your take on this folks- does this seem like its gobbledygook? Does it seem like there's some sand to the idea of living ideas Is that idea in the corner watch knew how to better check it's. None of my corner still here I'll, be up

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belonging begins with US dot org brought to you by the council. And if we return, let's hop back over choose email, we received a fascinating letter slashing suggestion from Diana from in jail. what you said. Diana had high gentlemen, just listen to your show regarding past life memories. I find this topic very interesting. The wanted sure the story of Shanty Debbie. Please liquor up. It's a fascinating story. I believe her case caught the attention of a hot who said the committee to investigate and after spending some time with her actually agreed that she was truly reincarnated. While the show keep up conversation and Conspiracies Diana. This is this is need now to be clear. Now

all five of us yourself, they want, you know, are necessarily on the same page about the concept of reincarnation. Just for my part, before we breathe. Flee dive into Shanty Davies life. For my part, man did. The problem is one a prerequisite to understand the idea of past lives or reincarnation? We have to have a bit way of understanding what happens to the mind winds. wine dies, you know what I mean like does it is: does the switch just click off? its are some of the more valid, This doctrine is correct very, very specific ones. We don't know we don't. Civilization, in my mind, doesn't have the tools it would need to test for the existence reincarnation. yeah, it's a long, walk to prove it right That's a real long, walk like you said because of the hurdles you have to jump over to get there.

Personally I would say I have not seen compelling evidence. The reincarnation occurs because, it's a lot like you're folk abduction stories. Were you I have to go on just what someone is telling you or strange instances where young people seem to know things that they shouldn't know about. You know them selves or a person that existed well before they were ever even a thought that is all that's very odd right, the strangeness of that occurrence of throughout history, you ve got this peppering of that experience is worth exploring is just one of those things that I wouldn't be comfortable saying? Yes, I believe in reincarnation anytime. Soon yeah yeah. I do said: bear you, you know you caught my end.

again with the mention of children, saying creepy things. We had some great responses from It's all in the crowd relate ok, look eyes. Idaho reincarnation is told milkshake alone whatever you want to call it that a Nazi kids, reincarnated, but boy they treat me out with this thing reminded me: they're pulled up. This thread from a forum was the list of creepy things. Children have said, I they share some with you just for fun zis. This is a guide. We didn't get a chance to do it our last summer, time, mother, so swinging He says this is over. I read it by the way this one guy says he was talking this two year old and his two year old, said good, bye, dad and I said No, we say good night and he said I know, but this time it's goodbye. The kids fine to be clear. The kid absolutely vital to set it up

regular regular day after that, and one more, maybe we'll just pepper these out through travellers in the show, but one more another purse, and the same thread says that was on a bus recently, where stopped outside of walking clinic a little girl Seat in front of me, turned your dad and said. Death is the poor man's doctor and I was able right. A man, so we might, we might throw a few more. Those in also, please continue to share with us the stories of creepy things. You said, the gate or creepy things that your own children have said while you work it out those sore reliving those possibly hilarious, possibly harrowing events. Let us produce you two shanty, Debbie, Shoddy Debbie,

was born on December, eleventh, nineteen, twenty six and lived until December of nineteen. Eighty seven. She is you'd indicated she is most famous for being the subject. Dove research into reincarnation, and it is true Gandhi, did did set up a commission and investigated, and this resulted in Mahatma Gandhi himself, supporting their claim and saying hey. This is legit, there's something to it by other route. words by other researchers disputed it And throughout our life there were several articles and books published about or other researchers also in interviewed her. It was just the Gandhi Squad and the other research a ball charge. I think the right carnation stuff came in when she was about four years old according to the story she was born in Delhi. She told her parents when she was for

Something along the lines of look. My real home is in Madeira, which is pretty far away from Dallas. And she said at a married, I get a husband, his ease, fair Scandia, glasses and get a big war on his left, cheek he's shop is located in front of this specific temple in this town and repair it's true. I go home, the weird things children say and- hit the road when she ran away from home when she was just six years old. Trying to get to this place, then new. She did not make it. Thankfully, shooting Doc data or parents founders. She got home safely. By later, In school she said I'm married. I died ten days after I gave birth to a child and that's when a teacher, school again is all according to the story right, there's, no video of a spot where your story teacher, the school

notice that she was using words that were part of the dialect of madeira and she even named her husband and son Oh, she said my husband's name is Kader, not so the headmaster sky, like the principle, the school doesn't digging and they find surprise, surprise. Yes, there is a shopkeeper. Turn off in Madeira and disbanded? his wife Lou De Debbie about nine years beforehand. and since we just stacking coincidence up here and there Fortunate Miss Debbie Past way about ten days after giving birth to a son. So the is this remit, be the kind of stories I would read in Lake Time Life mysteries of the unknown books- maybe whereof first heard about this so far, Matt. What do you think incidents can dismiss. All this we know

oh, how common the last named NASH, maybe or Qatar Nath YO for all women. could be like an equivalent of John Smith. We just don't know how you needed it and it's a hell of a coin. And though it's a lot, if she, all the mail. By name this guy haven't lose his wife. I mean it's thing dad started a match up sheep, apparently new stuff about like death bed requests given right not alone in this the thing that makes you wanna talk about it more and more, I'm just trying to imagine the experience of just having information. In my mind. That's just there that I didn't read it. I didn't Well, in this case, she would probably argue that she experienced it. She lived that life die. That's weird Skinner, my brain well Let's eyelids, let's keep punishing our brains here because it turns

out this Kate, our NAFTA. I travel to Delhi himself and he I did some kind of weird he pretended to be different person and pretended to be his own brother, but this kid you get it the point she courting a story. Shanty Debbie immediately recognizes tat our north and she recognises Qatar knots son. The kid look D Debbie gave birth to before way she knew details about his life and eventually even this guy got convinced, and he said well, this kid mice, must actually be reincarnation of my wife who passed away that this. Where are your garnered alot of regional attention? That's where the Gandhi Commission comes in, its round nineteen thirty five because of the time period,

which this occurred. Of course, there's not like audio, were video of this person story were reading written accounts. Also, there's a big shit that I have. I don't know. I don't know whether or not we will be able to answer this by massive thanks to anybody can answer this so look degrave passes away and there is kind of gap. in real world time between her death and the birth of shanty Debbie them like what happened. Where was look in the meanwhile, in some limbo in some like metaphysical waiting room. Now, I'm there are numerous explanations for that that purgatory, real time right, yeah I ate again it's it's. on what you believe it's what religion did your family believe when he heard kid: girly up and you're you're shoddy Debbie's age. At that time,

The complicating the matter you may have heard in the background there folks, my one of my cats fairly us. Strong feelings. Guess he was started, catterwauling we're talking about reincarnation, and you know now I can't help, but wonder man is: is this cat trying to tell me about his past. Life is like screen, out, like my name is Derek Jorgensen. I from no watch let me out of this prison that amazing there will be a worthy. That's why I never gonna get one of those Annabelle translation devices. I'm sorry! I have great affection for my pet but I'm not super interested in their opinions. The eye I can't I want one for my dad. I swear She says food now give me food food. Now when she barsoom by walls, Dodger different?

fundamentally so- and I don't mean to sound dismissive of feel- Europeans. If the technology is there I'll give it a go, but you might be interested to know there is a training pad that some some function. using dog owners to get their dog. To quote, unquote, speak it site, I don't know we ve seen this, what you laid out in the floor to matter pad, and it has these views, these things, that's that make them A word when a dog touching him with it's more like it touches swear that says like outside or like good boy. Are you people here, snack or playtime? Whatever and watching those videos. I know the problems with those things like the idea that the dog in question could you, be taking visual or body language cues from its owner, but I'll really really like the idea of a world in which dogs in particular can speak with this.

again, I'm not saying I don't wanna hear from any cats. It's just my two cats are not particularly you know. I don't know what european This would be what if there is a really weird stuff tell me, are you know their cells, my dad, they all animals are. I mean weird stuff man I can't you my head out of the space, let's say a nine year old child walks up to you, whoever you are and they say hey. I was your spouse. The died, I'm nine high what is the point? What do you do? Yeah am I mean a mate, I'm so glad to see you, but. don't run? I dont really want to be your parents, and your name yeah, so we're not gonna get remarried just to be clear cool it's good to see you I'm glad. You're, ok Again,

finally take a violin when they busters ever yeah yeah. This is true and we can spend more time on reincarnation. I to do that. Would love your help. So folks, please no other stories of famous alleged cases of reincarnation that we can add to the tapestry here. One eight three, three STD Debbie Whitey Kay or drop as an email conspiracy at I, radio dot com with this Matt I think maybe it's time for us to pause for thought word from our sponsors and then maybe returned with somewhat eating voicemail guest do you always do do you wanna, hear weird thing. My son said just before Europe less so much yes in cases where he was playing Mario Odyssey on his little switch handheld system

he was playing and I'm watching him he's tell me what's happening and that he pauses the camera in the game. There's a goober, these looking at a doomed and he is dead the goobers sauce, don't worry, don't worry dad it's ok, son this means suspicious poker. He thinks they favour previously argues endearing ray. I know I was just it's the only thing I could find in my text its great though ok, here's outbreak priested a planet, Charlemagne got here and you don't want to miss hello, somebody with Senator Nina turn on the black effect podcast network. I ll hello, somebody simply because I love mean eternal she's fearless, I mean eternal hell, raising humanitarian system in the struggle Amber

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in the deep stories that shape us. On the I heard, video up apple podcast or wherever you get your pockets and if we have returned you know, if you like, I was talking to big game at the beginning of the second. They were going to go through a bunch of stuff on there is everything we get is so interesting. I It can be difficult to Madame Shriek and agree. It can be difficult for us. times in these segments to try to keep it to her. I can cite kind of conversation right we always find ourselves on the precipice of a rabbit hole. So Matt, you found wine that I have yet

to hear I'm going be here it in first time with our fellow conspiracy realist on the air now, and I think Doc hasn't heard it before either. But all you put in your notes was, can I say this word sure folks Matt put in the notes is the a pyramids. so the other me in treat her a girl those are my neck was their separate story, rather inquiry, under the pyramid then, where you know I'm sorry, is actually in the Mediterranean area side, a Grand Rapids Obama does a tribal lot we moved in upon finding. It is a large, perfect, pier nonetheless, rounded sign Drones will be deployed, as for trespassers moved in its task and it was there

Central gathering information gathering boast originally, and then they try make it into a college and less We found that there was absolutely nothing being done with it. Streaming. Weird scenarios behind its history also do some links to leave we found in seas. Yes, maybe u yours just a little bit further on politics, from the beginning of the year. Massachusetts I travel a lot and I gather misplaced. Thank you so much today's vote in the first half a minute point this out, like Nick. You have an amazing voice, I now God, so good. I finally saw on here's where it gets crazier facebook group there was, sing about voices of you and and no I finally read through the whole affair.

You see I like em rigging this election, everyone, the lady I am- and I appreciate that- but I didn't need to be on that list I come on, but if my heart was part of the show he handed down would take like he went yet there are a couple of voices that that's assuming you know, I wouldn't listen to you. I would lead into more. Like make real a list of ingredients. and I we still find some sort of serenity you should do, station videos on Youtube or What s more stuff you do that might make. Not decreasing eyes. No definitely decree becomes I dont know if This is the place you're talking about make, but this is what I found it out. of Grand Rapids Michigan. I found a view ATLAS Obscura. It's called these. your case pyramid not again at this very time out, but this is what I think. Maybe it

as one lonely, modern pyramid, that's gone from corporate think tank, deserted. Boondoggle, that's their lot subtitle their new can again steel case. One word pyramid you can find him of it. It looks like very modern pyramid? That's just kind of out in the middle of nowhere yeah Doesn't it doesn't look like a work of ancient, stone or anything like that, actually, which really nifty do you know when I see photographs of this kind of stuff? It's it's like mommy to me, man, it's red meat, it stack time. I urban exploration. I love gigantic, abandon buildings! You know, one day I'm gonna get into that huge abandoned hotel in North Korea. Well, we'll see my fall apart first, but of I only get to do that. I hope you get to go to it

one side here too if you want to do, the trick is getting out so so I buried it may not be as as hard as you think, but with with this, like it dies, looks epic NASA hyperbolic to say pricing to find that such a large, unique building would end up being abandoned. Isn't it right So let's talk about what its original purpose was. Why it was built. It's called the steel. case period because that's the company, Steelcase There are designer furniture manufacturer lease the they were at at some point and it was built nineteen, eighty nine dressing looks it's pretty modern. Ninety nine is when it was built. It was an hour. indeed centre? Now you know a pyramid It really does a pyramid appearance sure, is an interesting design. For that kind of thing.

You may need. I dont know factory, The facility, a large open high ceilings place to test out your furniture and other things, the building stuff to action. Have a large manufacturing set up? Well, the pier itself is seven stories tall and it is a pure so you can imagine the floor on the bottom is larger than the floor. and so on and so on, and so on. Do you get to the seventh floor, which is apparently just really nice penthouse places and chill, and maybe be the ceo is the person who runs the factory, but the cool thing about the spent. Oh, my god, what got my dears turning is that beneath the pyramid itself, there's a giant series of Basement Sub basement where actually did, the r and d in the testing and all kinds of stuff down there

the western world to me yeah yeah- and we know a little bit more about this as well, because you see this thing is just going to go to ground and rot away. Other people like Mohawk made, like and myself. Clearly, The value in this a unique structure and they liked all the rules, apparently said: hey, let's resurrect this right now, as far as we can tell, the Steelcase Pyramid is not in fact bandit. That's right. You can head on over to switch Dotcom S, w I d, C h, dot com in red all about their Grand Rapids exit scale data center. Well, it's now a line of the actually painted it white and red like this, but it appears to be paint. white and gray, we'll bunch red highlights, and it is

giant data center asthma. Make us think, alluded to in his message: yeah yeah they- and this a pyramid, or at least Steelcase the company that originally created it We do a good bit about their history, they ever Wikipedia page, that's pretty well source and relatively comprehensive. We can tell you a little bit about why it's called Steelcase, it's not a bad conspiracy: the company just wanted to call itself that, because advertising campaign that was meant to promote metal office furniture over wooden office furniture sounds like big steals again in their big stick which is a real thing. Very much self improvement. Is this yet companies switch that purchased in twenty. Sixteen appears to be the current owner as well. I don't know yet whether they give tours. But I assume it's probably like

out of other office buildings unless the daddy holding a super secure, classified or supersensitive, then it might the thing where you can go into the lobby by all accounts, the lobby also looks really. who'll there's like a massive pendulum hanging from the interior. You can go. Maybe into the lobby, injustice ok, I won't go out to work. Mohawk makes it do it. There is also a switch centre in Atlanta. An idle They seek drones on you, they're butter Italy's tried out, it seems I it's pretty soon. Stuff let's not all go to the switch centres. Ok, that's private property, I'm alone nervous. Well, you can write to the folks were cinnamon, email or all them and see if they would be ok with giving you a tour. Yeah Fisher just go about right. You didn't. For months, didn't hear for my eyes. I saw what that we'll

I want to hear about anomalous or stranger, extraordinary structures in your neck of the global Woods bonus points tell us some local, lower or legends about them. You know I love that stuff. I will go visit that abandoned hospital. Just Alice? Where it is? You know it yeah, yeah sure is that I feel about that's not the way that you feel about flame witches. Oh no, I get it. I get You just want to give the all structures a hug now same, got it yeah, yeah, I'm so pro hug, As you know, we we wanted to end cds did issue with a little bit. Of a mystery. This was This is your idea of man. I think it's really quite idea. We received a mysterious phone call that might send you. Your own rabbit hole up. Now

you found this week about you set it up worse, we can play it and then we can see what our fellow listeners dig up the idea. That's exactly what will do you're you're on the case for this. When you ready this message, from someone that throes of really funny just quick little joke they give us this brief, cryptic message and mission. hey guys. This is her. I'm trying to get this clean I'm he's gonna give you a date. a you guys ago, January Hurricanes, twenty eighteen, the place Hawaii having hidden, Wonderful advances, yeah, full disclosure ma- am I'm pretty sure that we have. Our own belief are what we think this thing. It's right, I think we know can you figured out to all you have to use Google it may, and this will be so much more fun if the internet wasn't a thing? Yes, yes,

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