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from you, a Thursday ghosts and government cover ups histories, riddled with unexplained advance. You can turn back now or learn the stuff. They don't want. You to know, welcome back humans. This is stuff. They don't want you to know with your hosts and then and today we are talking about something that is my made, some pretty silly to some people quite a few centuries ago, terrified entire country. So this was very serious. Today we are talking about werewolves or, if you be fancy about it like Europe's yes, like cancer P, the idea that a human being could turn into, a wolf is kind of a specific big manifestation of a

older, much more general idea of something called theory and trophy and this miss pronunciation that I have just ahead is about it comes from greek idea of just human who can turn into a beast we're shifter exactly and was weird about this, is that across the spectrum- cultures of time, and space. All beings have at some point in their early folklore, leaves or spiritual police, thought that humans themselves could change into animals or that humans came from some sort of animal or that of God's might be combinations of animal and human characteristics, Oreo that a God could turn someone

HU, an animal if they wanted to, as occurs, for instance, in the cool thing about that, is that throughout these, in the different cultures its it's not everyone's, not turning people into wolves or being able to turn into wolves, but they are. Turning into in these stories into carnivorous scary animals generally, right yeah, they might or they might be turned into if they're turning something that isn't carnivorous, then oft in it because they have some sort of spiritual kinship with it or because they are Kirsty. Knowing the old the old, The idea that a oh, which producer of MAGIC bridle to turn somebody into a horse and ride them away to a black Sabbath, there's something our into a fraud can easily squeezed right, exactly and outcomes in through a fairy tales and serve to, but we know that? Ok, sweet,

that. This pre dates. Our written records, when I say our net course, it don't mean you and I mean humanity's written record's. Yeah goes all the way back to one of the earliest stories. The ethic of Gilgamesh basically Gilgamesh. As I look I don't want to be. Your lover is stark, as you ve been treatin your lovers, pretty poorly ok, you, You turned one year lovers into a wolf and you made him, though, because here's the really bad part- the guy was a shepherd. If our turn them into a wolf and now the enemy not only of a sheep but also of his best friends, his dogs, Halloween go too much like normal. Now that that sounds like ass it Gilgamesh. There's there's another thing that might surprise. Lotta people adds that the idea, of changing. While the idea of changing into various animals existed for very long time,

the animals were often gonna, be like the predators, the apex animals associated with that regions and native american war. Other often stories of where bears One thing that strange to me is that Central Asia is a lot of places. Central Asia had this weird reputation for a long time been a home of where dogs, basically, The boy could change into wild dogs a strange when you think about it, because shit, chinese legends had the idea of this these, where dogs and the far West will be the far West for China. The Europe the idea of these dog men, which my recognise from some of the purported reports of Marco Polo, people still archer sure if the actual

existing jellies. The idea we have of Marco Polo story for another day anyway, dog been mentioned in the famous travels of Marco Polo, were placed european somewhere in the east, stressing as West Europe saying it's in the east, I hindu mythology put the far North of India. So it's weird they're all these rumours about this one place somewhere in shady Eurasia, where people are turning into dog back in the men. It's very love, crafty and I think it's really weird. Then we can. But the cabal shown a lot of the questions that are simple, bull doubtlessly asked themselves when they clicked on the title for this episode, which was hey, then a mat or going to reveal some truth. Are you gonna tell us that werewolves a real? Yes, oh away is I will we gotta volume? I note that on your right when we're not Madeira, where we

but we we were interested in this episode because way back These your in the shadowy pass, the stuff they don't want, you to know you and covered, the idea of werewolves and a troubling explanation for for this concept, right now threaten was actually just as it is well known. It was the first video that went up on our new channel that when we started yeah. That's right. We have our street name should be to channels because we see nowhere is how stuff works and we still have videos are a new channel which is just conspiracy, stop or stuff there. What you know, but we do know that there have been numerous cases throughout history of people being tried and executed after conviction of like cancer. Which was historic, also a subset of witchcraft and general right, never worshipping so so we know that

Are some all old cases? We we talked about a couple then in our video pie, casts ripe computer stump. I think we may at him and he's one of the people who said yeah. I did it. I turned into a wolf and aid, those kids now do it again and they had a skin or a belt or something that could help him turn into were right, yeah, which is one of the young one of the historically more popular ways of turning into a werewolf. I he said He had. Had been given a magic belt by the devil. If I, Paul correctly and that when he anointed this belt in the proper ritual eyes fashion. He was able to put it on and his form would change to that of a wolf and all that the double required of him to do with that point was to kill and murder as he saw fit, while NEO until dawn. Then

there's another case. A very old, swear this. This guy named Reiser, say kid but check this out. Scale machine. Green yea was only thirteen when he confessed that he was a wolf He had been since he was ten years old that a man in the forest or man of the forest gave him a potion fer to transform. Said that he'd been not only transform it into a werewolf but have been eating dogs and Vince and little girls and war and that's a sad case because new kid at that age could easily be bullied in You confess something they didn't do that be very interested to hear the stuff. They don't want you to know about that story, warm, maybe drugged and many people by somebody, but here where we get to some weird stuff, you'll notice that he said he had a skin and then he took a potion. There are coupled different way,

historically, to transform to a werewolf right. Yes, so one of the ways which he mentioned already with our boy Peter S, not really our boy ps- is the idea that you can take off your clothes. Put on a wolfskin, Belcour, upheld and then trends. Form and other ideas that you rob yourself with something. Maybe the FAO your blogger, Wolf or the fat or blood of it on that child or something, and then you could even something as simple as drinking rainwater out the footprint of the animal. You want to transform into Cyril pick the lame like a man, grab a badger, noble it's gonna, be resumed scared that really further cause of evil and Satanism with that one something that I learned is we're going as we researching this is that one of the ways to transform backing

human, if you're, a werewolf and you'll, want to be the werewolf anymore or were you have the ability? to you understand that your werewolf, because times it's just this wage, that you go into depending on what story. Werewolf hearing is to put your human close back on you that's really strange to me just that's a legal loophole. Cosmic on now, you're good it says, a lot. I think, there's somebody who's probably made a Phd year dissertation off of analyzing the relationship between what what clothing says about humanity, verses, animal nature, but you There are countries being of becoming a werewolf were becoming a wolf was fry the easy in in one case. Parts of Sweden There is the idea that you could just drink a special kind of beer and repeatedly formula just like marvelous issues and in parts

Europe, including ITALY and Germany, be easy enough, as just sleeping outside on a summer night full moon shining on you on a particular They are Friday firm, your Wolf Accidentally, you get caught up in the Wolf game, crap, That's what happens here so we want those few weak geisha will believe it by clearly when we're we're being a little off hand about this war, talking about stuff, they be serious are one thing that is a serious note. The wings to make is that you- and I sat at the top that this idea seems funny to us. Now seems a bit you provincial and bit gullible, maybe, but at the time the air human being was much more likely to run into dangerous wild animals. Oh yeah,

foiled wild animals and there wasn't a lotta surveillance going on China with people by police forces or any other law enforcement agencies. It was no scary world out there in the dark there were a lot of lights right, yes, danger. There is real danger when you go out in the woods at night, right depending upon the time of year in the dark of winter wild animals. That would usually be intelligent enough to of humans, or at least worry enough not to be seen by them would be driven by hunger to it, someone who might be easy prey, so there really were of wolves attacking people who, one reason or another were travelling by their lonesome in the dark you're in the forest that that stuff actually happen? And we know like an troops have a role to play, even in our Bible,

we can- and this isn't just pagan stuff, Saint Patrick, right say. Henry Irish guy apparently transform the Welsh King Vera tickets into a wolf, and then there are other miracle by saints that new. Clearly echo these pre existing pagan, traditions which, makes me makes me think that now, we ve talked enough about the magic great. Maybe it's time for to get into some more real explanations, Orson some current theories about what what one. Could these stories really be about yeah but for we do that it's time for a word from our sponsor I'll, get a sponsor today, yeah

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produces, an abnormal amount of hair really thick hair to write all over their bodies right and if U K, if you check out the pictures, There is due to be completely honest, either the passing resemblance to launch Chinese, the Wolf mayor, the original version of what we think a werewolf looks like, or at least this, I grew up in the: U S right, then there is the other condition which is dark, and that is why can't therapy as a mental illness. That is somebody who has the belief they somehow form into a wolf physically or some sort of mad beast, or they believe that they have the mind of a beast and, interestingly enough, the the word why camphor be actually come from that. The idea of a mental illness where a push a person delusional in thinking that they can actually become a werewolf right,

a couple of things here that we should go ahead and just knock out in our dress there or there is a community of people who referred to themselves as other kin, and these are people who identify often on it a spiritual or perhaps metaphysical level, o with particular animal one that could be regarded as real or when they can be regarded as fictitious. So we're lumping in these people this community with someone who suffer from the men This order of lie can therapy Neither are we lumping these mental disorders in with this. Unfortunate case of what's after referred to is fair all children. There are real, kids, who throughout history, have been found living with wild animals with very little contact with human beings, it doesn't

I've been is often now, but the results are are documented and there are tragic. It turns out that there is a window of time for life. Human language, after which a person do it too well and languages, and the only thing that can be improved. If it's not learned within a certain time span war. On two legs is part of that there are so many so many social physical actions right just if you're not around other humans. You're, not gonna, learn it okay, so with was to Adam Tangentially related ideas and out of the way, what slow the concept of like cancer. He as a mental disorder, others really interesting thing that an FBI profile or names Gregg Macsharry, said he said that

there's. A reluctance to admit that somewhere in our community would be capable of the kind of evil that we can see and brutal murders. Evil said he saw overpowering though we want to attributed to a monster, but the reality is that many good people can have some terrible flaws. Although I Do you think he's on you're stating it when he says that last part of the sentence It is true that there is tremendously alienating thing about new, finding out that quiet labour down the way. I had a he's not full of bodies or something you know, and with With this in mind, We have to understand that not only is not only is it true that people can have a mental disorder that makes them a werewolf, but it also two possible that throwing, three, the thick

current. The towns were played with murders or something like that. May then trying to redress the concept a serial killer of some sort through their existing cultural framework. It is also strange making it. It strikes me that one most EU not guilty by insanity kind of plea can see that being used back in the day, perhaps like I've furnace, monster. When I put this belt on, I turn the monster and you know it wasn't me who killed those people, it was the thing and I become when I dawn this thing or drink. Yes or no applies substance. Eyes, I'm Katy lows, actress, mom and a host of the parenting podcast Katy script a show that helps women, navigate the big shifts which motherhood can bring. This season he'll hear from resilient Mama's like actress Gabriel Union thought, leaders like author,

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the mentally disabled could have been accused of that the the sickening truth of the matter. Who is that We know it is frightened, plausible day that in the past, especially boy who were mentally firm for one reason or another were easy. Taking as scapegoats. So maybe you may Europe, like, let's put ourselves back there a few centuries. Maybe the small town in France is getting attacks by a pack of war sort of acquired a taste for vulnerable human flesh. They need to blame someone, but the can't catch the wolves. So they blame. You know the old down the street, who has no living family and is not any they have this. Go to a sort of arm a pressure.

For the community at large doesn't solve the problem, but it makes people feel like doing something- and We can see in the chickens in Iraq, posts, nine, eleven, Then, when you have a group of people fired up about a tragedy. Giving them are something to lash out or the illusion of doing something effective can be. Effective for maintaining the status quo walk down the street for that point, but I think it was worth it man very sorry. I like it so so we also know- and this is this- is the last to wipe out here met. We also know that this Mental. Disorder. This delusion that one is actually a wolf or werewolf is limited to his historical footnotes. Have you heard of a guy named bill? Ramsay chums really familiar, but I don't I don't think so. Well, this

be this could be a total hoax avid checked into this by. They'll Ramsay was experiencing savage seizures, since he was a kid and growl and snap, and by and by he convinced himself, allegedly that he was a wolf, eventually He's too self identified demon all just add in Lorraine, Warren upon HU the I know that Hungary is based. Concluded that rammed was possessed by a werewolf demon. And then he was sceptical, as as you might be and they finger quotes exercise them. He said that the werewolf demon leaving his body and in suffer from it again. So I don't know if this is a hoax. I don't know if this is true, but I do oh, it's interesting, werewolf demon, that's a new one! For me.

Just quickly, owing to bring up a couple other reasons that people may act or believed that they You ve turned into a Wolf Ogre ACT as though they are a wolf couple things. Run up before when we were talking about witchcraft and the on which trials, also the vampire or what We call that one vampires leg, vampire panic and that's the one of my favorite episodes met our meeting The idea of Aragon poisoning merely simple poisoning that occurs when just green and barley or or wheat goes bad and you eat it, you can. We have some serious hallucinations it can. Can be pretty brutal on you and you go of your under the influence of Aragon poisoning.

You may be led to believe things by someone else or just internally that you're the things we are seeing a real, so it could be that trip could be really bad trip. One interesting thing about that is the idea of you, this robot poisoning in advance, controversially for a couple of other historical events like seeing almost fire the. What's he called the day seen plagues I think stuff mom never told you was probably gonna, have a good episode on. There hasn't come already someone's even events that may be the Salem which trials were result or the hysteria surrounding them interest fact about organ poisoning, also have physical, I'm here symptom, so it can cause extremities to swell making. You look totally workers and maybe like your transforming cheese in the end, the other thing Ben I wanna dimension- is rabies.

This is something that spread much like in the way the stories of like anthropic spread through a buyer. There lived here and it's pretty fatal That's the one thing that kind of makes me think that it might not be rabies is because it's usually fatal, especially in the advanced stages. So anyone who would be caught as a werewolf were like an probe would probably be dead within a few days although several of these people, especially in historical cases, the when you mentioned stop stoves stump, I mean he was he was executed, so perhaps someone who is suffering from rabies just gets executed. And just say that I was being attacked by the wolves there's another another recent self profess werewolf. We should mention a murderer name Jack Owens Film in the third, when

Was locked up, you refer to himself as a werewolf and setting The stock is prey he he was a hum he was a real life monster cause. You know you can be tat Golly Human being and still be a monster from Africa. Argue that most monsters are exactly that and we And I just bring this guy up because. Murderers. Your murderers and some like rapists can can go off. Deepened and identify themselves your serial killers or as Jesus Christ. For some reason, or as you know, God or some other delusional idea, and this Happening in the modern day to me means that occur easily happened as well in the pass, but without the benefit of

psychologists or neuroscientist, an expert to say you're crazy near Calais then somebody same wow, maybe oh yeah. I guess he really does work forsaken. I guess that guess we should kill this guy and with that it's time to throw to the audience. Usually this apart, we say, If you want to learn more, I think we have an article on the site right. Yes, a lot of the information that I got from the site is from an article by Tracy Wilson, the fantastic host of stuffy miss history class, one of the fantastic hosts, the other being wholly free, and yeah just kitchen it's a great red, it kind of goes over some of the same stuff. We talked about not not enquire as much detail, but its fascinating yet and we like to hear from you write to us commoner, Facebook on tweet us and let you

let us know. Ah what You think about the idea of my canopy as mental illness and as work. All some specially. Let us know if you believe that people really can shape shift. We in touch unskilled workers will save that four different show up. But if you. If you do believe this Then let us know why would love to hear it yet any video evidence or pictures. Yeah totally said Matthew S Kelly, I would love to be older. Help prove that it's real we will put it on the air if we could find proof of it. But Another question which I think we might more responses to here, is which monsters should we cover next week for anything Loch Ness, and after a little yeah from the sea from the mountains. What do you want me to tell us about it from the air from the nether regions, and I dont mean lets her. Yes, so tell us what

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