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for me every Thursday only on Amazon, music from Europe. Two psychic powers and government conspiracies history is riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or learn Stop. They don't want you to know a production of. I hope we Hello. Welcome back to the show my name is met. My name is no. They call me Then we are joined, as always, with our super producer, old mission, control, deck and, most importantly, new or you you are here, and that makes this stuff. They don't want you to No, it is these second episode in our. to port series on the secrets of the founding fathers, a subject Spin on the minds of many people or a number of centuries now. in our previous

episode. We talk a lot about dead president's nothin, not the hip. Hop grew there were all big fan of, but the the the actual presidents of the? U S and the found fathers, some of whom were never president, such as you know, Matt Alexander Hamilton, right. Never, President Ben Franklin, never President George Mason, but they did They did a lot of tremendous tremendous work, creating United States and for a long time they were deified, perhaps to an extreme degree and people didn't talk about you're older park receive slavery or the US here. The nature of their membership in masonic lodges. still a lot of little known, myths, facts or factoid about the President's two may we start there be here are the facts

if someone hasn't listen to episode, one. What's what some of the crazy stuff the learn well A lot of the founding fathers were white men, no eight. Yet they were there are many of them owned slaves or had in a close relationship with the practice of chattel slavery. That was a big deal, We definitely talked about Freemasonry about how the values that that Freemasonry puts forward have all a lot of similarity with what ended up in the declaration of independence and a lot of the other major documents that went into creating the thing called the United States. Let alone were met yeah and the french Revolution right and is there's a lot of common reality there. They there's there a couple other, just the fun things.

Before I get to the really weird stuff today, the founding fathers themselves probably never heard the phrase. The founding fathers, which makes sense but founders, was probably in there somewhere, where the we're the founders yeah yeah but it's like that's the kind of title you probably shouldn't give yourself. You know what I mean but yeah. They probably they probably did say that couple ales in at the public ass an exam Arabs. Did they drink, say I'm atoms there actually a really great brand of ale. I think I D Michigan called founders, one of my favorites, but its very true. I had won the other day. Hey looked ay sponsorship founders were here. Maybe ice. No, it's really good question. Do you really think they like coined themselves? The founders, that's the kind of thing that the press would have to w like this.

a pretty serious s. Self aggrandize ings take the well if you're, if you're hanging out at the masonic large in secret or the thing that would become the Masonic Lodge years down the road of yellow. I can imagine that gentleman we here are the fountains of this, Nathan? Not not just the founders mad, the founding fathers they sire this country from their very loins, will the earliest, record, we have of that freeze b, use is actually doesn't it. her until nineteen sixty at least in documents Warren G Harding, who is a senator at the time and in a later, goes on to be President himself talks. Do the Republican National Convention and he's lying You know yadda yadda, yadda, the founding fathers, and he was on his work with no dog. This was also the time he had ever said: yadda yadda yadda, you know, which later is right

instant Seinfeld. That's just these are just historical facts here. So his he said, founding fathers and one thousand nine hundred and sixty and he's talking about. Like the earlier point you had made on the previous episode So by everybody, whoever fight fought in the American Revolution and participate, did it anyway in the constitution, as was the declaration of independence, so was talking about the seven or eight people that often get home Denon as founding fathers. I he does it he's will even talking about John Hancock, the John Hancock. By the way, I don't know why more people don't talk about this. He's famous for his autograph right is very large. Showy six inches. He was a smuggler, his job, that's like if, We were starting a nation and we were like he lets, get that you're. The guy who sells drugs like down down by the Krueger.

We should get him on this for, but that was a bankable skill at the time like Hamilton, the musical has anything to say about it: you're right, you're, right, a b Fabric is it's a way to get around the british tax system right really says he's more like the trafficker right he's the supplier of the drugs in a way of a guy who's, getting them across the yeah. That's right, yeah he's the plug. As a very good point, he's not that he's not the corner guy, but there are misconceptions, an idle one thing. I, like is that a lot of them are pretty have been busted, such as their carbon knowledge, George Washington, may have cut down trees in his life, but He certainly did not cut down a cherry trees, a child and then say I cannot tell a lie. It's weird story I also did they wouldn t be a fake teeth, but they word out wooden. They were hippopotamus teeth. Is I wooden yet a k c, worse teeth,

That makes sense. Ok me ends see way were what else we know o the signatures on the declaration of independence were kept secret. That is true initially, not because there was some conspiracy, although I guess, from the british perspective very much he's a conspiracy, their own protection. Right, right, yeah, you're, absolutely right! If the if this document have been found and if they had not won the war in their lives, would be risk absolutely. So those are losers. Some of the facts, and there are some fantastic, innumerable actually books and podcast and documentaries musicals and so on about these things. But what we wanted to do today is explore the crazy, unproven

stop some of the weirdest allegations. You will hear about these founding fathers of this country. Here's where it gets crazy. It's button do man, ments, wait! Note that's now we're doing here has great grief, bullets of less jump in in yet talk about the the crazy stuffy improvements up the stuff, that's funny to think about, but may not have much sand to it, but maybe a couple greens, as we discussed that rural last episode the hit. This is something it reminds me a lot of the polish dead theory that we discuss work with Paul Mccartney and the Beatles. There is there's a theory roaming around out there that George Washington V founding Father I mean vote. One

that he was assassinated at some point and replaced with someone else happens. All the time happens all time. Yet it's tough happened at our job earlier two weeks ago, but let's get into that Easter egg, so nodding doubles. We know that happens right. That's happened, possibly happening now. What's interesting about this theory, is not just the idea that Washington was assassinated and replaced, but who replaced him? That's! That's the weirdest sport hurry yeah. Shall we get into some Illuminati discussions here? That's what this whole about baby. I think Serbia job Johan. Actually, wise helped found the order of Illuminati. It is a thing, may first two seventy six and he was big and the rising trend of secret societies

but they were often used as a way to kind break away from status quo, little bed and promote free thinking and free and equality. Actually and, as we have seen with For example, the Vatican did not care for Freemasons. In Europe and actually outlawed members of the catholic church from becoming members of he Freemasons similarly monarchies did not care. for these either specifically the or of the Illuminati Yea- and we discussed the reasons why both monarchies and and the vatican this, like the order of the Illuminati I'd. Of course, why shops argument here for the order of the Illuminati? let's see the best way to say it is he I now sit as though it were

a resurrection of an older thing right. So here Argument was always this dates back into antiquity, but you're right first, seventeen, seventy six, that's when he that's when he found the order of the illumination, but he found it in Bavaria in thousands of area. Yes, because he has done when we come into play later. He is jirga, the name didn't give it to you. Have early That is very german. First enlarges before we keep hearing, is an island interesting that, as a nation was being birthed this guy? Why cept decides to? found the stinking Illuminati like the same did seventeen. Seventy six but a version of the Illuminati, I would say, but you're right, you're right, it's weird! It's a busy year

history and he's in Bavaria, as you said, but eventually he's exiled, because the power structure rejects things like freedom and equality order things that are espoused by the order of Illuminati and the gist of our conspiracy theory here is instead of living in exile as all historians agreed this guy did he travelled to United States to spread the secret doctrine of illumination across the land in seventeen. Eighty five, the story goes: why shop assassinated George Washington S replaced him just to point this out. Ok,. Washington's official death occurs on December fourteenth said: gee, ninety nine and it

What kind of mysterious who is sixty seven years old. He had a brief illness. He lost forty, percent of his blood- oh and then he died. In a twenty one hour period. Heaven I heard it before for forty percent of his blood. was he being like blood led till it as like a remedy to care what ailed him. So what happens when you get assassinated dude you lose at least forty percent of your blood and least I thought it was he might have been in on the blood trade. You know what I mean Somebody help him to collect there, and I want one mistake: you you're saying these are the circumstances of his actual death or these are the proposed, Circumstances of his suppose, a death actual death, sexual deaf, yet so he was the heap fell ill and died over twenty one hour period in seventeen. Ninety nine because

was being bled. It was a carbon medical practice, Joker, not super successful medical practice. What super Harmon I e they bled him, like. I think it's hurdle is personal doc. Let him once and then more doctors arrived in blood and for more times over next eight hours and that's how I saw the blood he also. by the way our gold, a mixture of molasses, vinegar and butter, did several other things, but he didn't buy late afternoon. He knew that he was on the way out, and his last words are, I am just going have me decently. Buried, do not lie my body be put into the vault less than three days after I am dead. Do your stand me tis well and then end I die and he died Was it him or was it Adam? Why shot had had this guy come from Bavaria and

sort of data. What's that show the Americans die hard, sleeper agent thing Gale had replaced the president of the United States. Well, ok, we, You know the founding fathers were aware of your Adam. Why shot even wrote about him? Yeah? It's true, I Jeffrey and speaks of him in a letter to Madison where he says that vice hopped was an enthusiastic Panther pest of outstanding moral character, and they seem to two to dig this guy who he was. He was popular amongst the fathers know. You're we talked about how important Thomas Jefferson and James Madison were as founding fathers and it's interesting to note that They were definitely on board. With this guy released found,

can interest with him and found him to be an upstanding fellow but yeah. I do I don't know man the girl, let's keep going it just feels the fuels must keep up our I well. I do what a point out that, while I think we were much more than fair with Thomas Jefferson in the previous episode. Ah, he did originally just reminded this. He did originally have a ban on slavery in the in the initial documents of the. U S butts heap.

Remove those bands because he thought they wouldn't be able to get support from delegates in slave owning areas and also he owns lace. There was a huge hypocrite, but but he light Adam, I shopped VI shopped ends there. There's some other things here is something we talked about earlier. even if this guy, the founder of the order of the Illuminati Dids, seek to spread, these new world order views he would have been pushed for anything that was super wild to the founders of the United States. They were on board with a kind of stuff that At least the Illuminati on paper, supported, like values have a lot in common with masonry self determination. Freedom religious dogma, etc.

Anything the Illuminati is just a little more extreme on the religion stance. I think that the masonic thing is something like that: their acknowledge a high power or something else. That's all you must do it matters, not what you would dogma. place on, it is just that you, you acknowledge that something greater than you exists in. You are essentially a part of that plan or part of that thing. What separate from the the Freemasons like. Why bother starting all brand new? society was there's something about free. suddenly than vice up didn't, like that's a good question, What one of my initial cynical answers would be that people for some reason, love start their own thing instead of helping existing things, like you, see it in the world of charity all the time. So one tries to start a chair, when there are already euro eight other things. We've have been doing it for a long time and use the help, but

of course, these things don't occur in a vacuum, so it is, it is likely he knew about it, but it's also possible relevant again too. This is just Myspace nation. It is also possible that he will I was trying to circumvent, perhaps a ban on freemasonry- that's happened in the past, but that that there may be subdued dive into in another episode. Yeah will definitely be diverted another episode. I just want to point to one thing written by the bavarian Illuminati of kind of what they stood for, and this is something they wrote in their general statutes. The order of the day is to put an end to the machinations of the purveyors of injustice, to control them without dominating them.

Interesting right use user tendrils to control things but dont. Let you know that tendrils their influence, ok, yeah, so a hidden hand. That makes sense, but there's there's one big thing: people ever get him when they talk about this assassination yeah, it's it's a cool, crazy story. I would watch the feature film with Nicolas cage about this. He would play both wife out there, George Washington, obviously up, but the problem is why she is from Germany. He has a v, thick noticeable german access. This is tested in other contemporary writings. It's like thicker than a boy. About oatmeal all shout out. Anyone who gets the reference if we are being charitable it is highly unlikely that this guy been able to kill George Washington. Put on the whig or whatever and

seamlessly slip into that character. People would have noticed because he talked to people. You know what I mean. He wasn't emailing folks so I would say this is not true, but there's a crazy thing. We're going or even crazier than this. That is absolutely true and should terrify you we'll get to it. Afterward from our sponsor read the requests we ve seen the sign petitions we ve even heard. and spiritually theory that the last remaining MC ribs are hidden in a secret vault in the mill, the Mcdonald Mountain in La Mola, Washington can confirm or deny take a deep breath, we're here to put your conspiring thoughts to rest, at least for a limited time, because them really is back, and for the first time and nearly a decade, the MIC rib is available. Mcdonald's locations nationwide. Remember what it felt like fingers, Britain barbecue sauce flavorful

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imagine there's no heaven than room have to imagine that can really be true. Woe! Well, that's area that that's we're Thomas Jefferson was accused of being. Philosophically during the one thousand hundred election. There were these crazy, rumors, Elections are weird and propagandistic. Now, These were nuts. These rumours spread that Thomas Jefferson was secret an atheist, which used to be a very bad thing, yeah very, very bad. These bore, say his opponents were save your Thomas,

Jefferson wants to be president, not because he cares about this country. He only wants to be president to ban religion. He is an enemy of God. He is in full trading this this holy office. In this holy place. Most people say I mean that's a single Jefferson, wasn't a Jefferson hated churches, maybe not religion, but he was super, not downward churches. Most people today would describe him as Non denominational, theorist, so kind, interesting is that sort of being not agnostic, yeah, an agnostic? We recognise that there is some sort of higher thing. You don't want to call it. You mean like, like the basic so Freemasonry and the Illuminati they around. Does. This is more saying that you can it's like pleading, no contest the question of right. So you re you're, not your ears,

that you cannot, you do, essentially say you do not have the information necessary to make an informed the conclusion so turnout and you're, not you're, not gonna, discounting entirely the right, there's say, and I don't know you're leaving the door open for both for like If you are one day blessed with that wisdom, then ok, cool, I, by hedge, that I think that the Do you think you think agnostics event that when they meet Saint Peter at the gates, they get a passing they get in denial knew him marijuana. Hello age him here to prove that he even their Saint Peter Shillin somewhere by some gates. Maybe I also wonder why they were pearly. They think. Is it just felt like a fancy material with its maybe they're, just pearl like increase? Did you notice pearl, wouldn't be a perfectly good gate material? He asked. No other budget is in

what, if they really are ivory and heavens, got this thing with rhinos and they have counterfeit gates. Heaven is cancelled. You guys were while worry. We gotta mocha well. Well. Other We'll thought about this. I can bring us back. Other people, about this Thomas Jefferson. weird thing about calling him an atheist is that he thought often about matters of faith and religion. He wrote what's the jeffersons Bible, any studying display of humility and it's the Jefferson Bible is well. It's called a thinker efficient. idols the life and morals of Jesus of Nazareth and there copies around today.

but essentially what he did is cut and paste process of of a new testament and he took out all the stuff that he thought was like supernatural or miraculous. So it's just Jesus Christ as a good and normal dude doing good a normal things, so that's the guy. He also was like a what is it believed in a watchmaker God, the idea There is some divine force that sets reality or realities in motion. You know called it a day and the rest is up to us. These are radical, and highly offensive ideas to a lot of people, but there's not as bad as being an atheist and becoming the president. I mean you would be hard pressed to.

be an atheist and win the election now in twenty twenty. So how did he responded as these accusations? He did what every politician does since him, because it worked out for him. You play along, you can a cable little of it. You go to church, even if you don't have those personal Leafs. Can you espouse that? Maybe you do or you know you stand in front of a church that shuddered and hold a bible up to take some pictures it means we are agreeing for my boy. What I'm saying is you? You play the game and that's what politicians do in all things and is, Actually, when it comes to religion and that's exactly what Thomas Jefferson did it's alive, partner to stomach, though in the person playing the game is so clearly not that thing at all.

Jefferson wasn't either. I know where he was smart enough to like put on a good bright, put on a good show. At least he probably like memorized a few passages out of the Bible and could quote them properly, and you know I didn't Miss pronounced the names anyway, I'm sorry, well he did when the election their work. Do you This is the first example like in American, like politics of this type of pageantry. So is probably tales all this time right. You know we can travel go back to get all the times of monarchies that the United States is fighting against in establishing itself. We built it. Well, look at last episode just about the control structures that how controls maintained and the way you control people

who's buying, like the Illuminati wanted to their bavarian Illuminati, and when why shopped new control, three influence through structures and institutions like churches, that's a tough thing to square, especially if you're a believer Ehrlich, a true believer that that we can be influenced uncontrolled through things that are largely positive in our lives, like churches yeah yeah, exactly and also to be absolutely clear here: we're not dinging on religion. We are saying that we say that Tom Jefferson, whatever his personal beliefs are was he was, at the very least against the dogma of organised religion. But he sucked it up. Then he played the game to become the president and when he became the president, he did not ban religion. He he just wanted to.

Contain a separation of church and state which seems normal now, but was very controversial at the time and the question about performative acts. Performative religious acts is interesting because we don't- no folks inner motivations or their inner beliefs. At this point, they would have to write it down right in an explicit way. That's why we know some stuff about Thomas Jefferson. So do the eagerly. I just think it's it's unfair to ascribe personal beliefs to people. If we don't know what they are, but we do know that we do know that he didn't ban religion. So this conspiracy theory is debunked we can say, but there's another one that I think is interesting. I view to say it I don't know I don't know the title of this is

The Boston Tea Party was an opium heist because heard that, when nope I sought on the sheet, and I was like that- does not something that I was taught in history class. What the deal it involves and other secret society. This time the sons of liberty, the priest sir of the sons of anarchy in the Boston Tea Party really set off on December. Sixteenth seventeen. Seventy three three years there before the official founding of the U S and this was there was a protest right. It was, I guess you could say, an attack in a way it was me I wasn't attack in its known as the Boston Tea Party. This was a response, as we ve talked about on the show before I think. Maybe I'm gone into full detail.

but there's this thing called the T act which had to do with imports of tee from China, and it was this thing that we have for sure dark around the show, the british EAST India Company. We are again after a couple of slightly complicated things, have Ado with taxes and how essentially terrorists like how how taxes were levied on some of these goods before the colonists and it's a thing we could get into. If we really really want to her. But ultimately it's you know we're having to pay a lot of taxes, that the citizens didn't feel they should be paying and empowered it empowered this corporation. Yes, like that,

large, EAST India, company British Cindy, accompanied these are sort of a harbinger of corporations to come in. They are immensely powerful. They are also. There are also not restrained by laws in a way that many other corporations are at least in paper today. So one huge effects this will have on the american collar is is that it threatens the smuggling trade John Hancock stuff. I know they're mess with their messages. hey? I got nobody messes with John. I hit the edge, and so this makes people furious. The sons of liberty also the way founded by SAM Atoms, if their, if there, yet sponsor us, will just keep doing SAM atoms facts, facts it's a beer, not quite good enough to drink with your mouth. What and my men, you, like him, Adam disappear, for you would only hawking.

New items is wonderful, you're, just saying there's like seventeen varieties. I've tried, I do think that school. I think this Muslims about their school I'll admit it painted it The pumpkin ones ray is another thing that same Adams does indeed seasonal like a pumpkin J Ai. They too all address you old, Pheasy wig is one of the best beers supple is as today as Louis. What we see in the Christmas Carol, ethics, all it. I need to make sure that saying that right. I hope I hope that he's a lesser known sons of liberty, member, there is always a wig was instrumental in this area is called old, Pheasy wig. So there you have it folks old Pheasy way recommended by none other than Matt Frederick wholeheartedly right back without reservation, I fix

I'm so sorry, right, though, that smuggling is a big thing: it's a big industry and It is through. I ve. The smuggling industry thrives because of the taxation system imposed by the British, so a threat that is a threat to people's livelihoods, and so my group of people. Some disguised as native Americans boarded three ships, In Boston Harbour, as we said on this, sixteen seventeen seventy three they dumped officially, three hundred and forty two chastity into the ocean, this cost a British EAST India accompany the equivalent of about more than two million dollars in today's terms, but the spirits see is that they dump the tea and they took something else because again the sons of liberty,

are in the like: they move in circles with smugglers and their smuggling associates knew there was were precious cargo aboard opium. should be familiar to everybody's heard, our previous episodes, British EAST India. Opium in in the opium trade in China I mean it would make complete sense if the tea is coming directly from China via the EAST India Company of Britain, that there could be other cargo aboard that, there was not on any manifest. There was a recorded, and you know left to history. Like you said, if it wasn't written down, we don't know if it's if it secretly on that ship and then was taken, it just would happen and we'd have no record ha Latvia, smart move, dump the t take opium because you could sell that right.

It's immensely profitable. It's actually it's it's immensely profitable, its immensely dangerous, but it It's a way to move a lot of money quickly. Does people might not donate to revolution but, though by opium, so so the pieces are there? We don't have proof. We just had a series of lake circumstantial, interesting thing you know what I mean and together they them they make of worry a tantalizing possibility, but we don't know that we don't know whether they threw the tea and took any obi. We dont know if any opium was aboard but then again that's the thing. If it's a smuggling situation, then you can't trust the manifest right

interesting curiouser in Curiouser, but we don't know for sure. Perhaps one day in the future newly uncovered documents will spill the tea. On this case, and yet for sure- and you know it is fascinating. Never thought about opium in Colonial America I know that the United States, There was founded. I mean I want someone progress. I think it's about a hundred years after Amerika was founded. There was quite a bit of an opium crisis in the United States, because it was you know, medicinal thing at the time, the doctors would carry with them and would give you sure of it. Essentially, if you required it, but the abuse of it as a narcotic as a drug. I know nothing about in that time. You know like pre, eighteen hundreds

fastening stuff. Yet any I think we're not taught a lot about the EU, relationship with opium. It's it's an old one, the first millionaire officially in the U S the guiding Johns the Astor, though I know that name yeah He died in eighteen, forty, eight, but the way he became so wealthy is entirely due to the open, trade. We also know that going back, the Mayflower in sixteen hundreds, some pilgrims were probably carrying opium, especially there's a physician named Samuel, fuller and he probably had laudanum with him. As a doctor

and during the American Revolution, opium was a common medical tool. Thomas Jefferson even used it later to treat his his chronic diarrhoea, but it would not be unusual to see opium in there in Colonial America, be opium that you would smoke or essentially just lad. Laudanum was like a tincture right. like you can even put it on a rag manner. Yeah you're right. I guess I can only really speak to the medicinal stuff. We know that people were group like Thomas Jefferson, even ended up growing poppies amount, cello, eventually, opium opiates became a common ingredients in multiple products then, in like I owed subordinating hundreds or so plain.

I don't know, I don't know about recreational use in particular, so we would have to have more proof of something for the opium high stool So instead of saying this is the bombs, although kind of it, instead of saying this is true, but you don't have proof for I want to pitch it to you guys as a fill the the Boston opium heist. This is good. That's a good idea! You shouldn't pitch this on the podcast really good idea of we get like oceans, eleven kind of viable ensemble heist film. Then you, in order to get France's support. If something is the wheels I go of opium, the arrogant conspiracy. I love it. I love it, but it is not true we're gonna pause, for where, from sponsor and when we return, we will hell you a conspiracy theory. That is very true. A very disturbing

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are with us in, as said the room where it happens, we're making. a new nation, building a new, really weird system of government where We can live. No one's tried this before so we want to learn from the mistakes of the past, but we also pay attention to the stuff that worked this leads us to the situation. The continental Congress found itself it massively. functional group, lots of competing entry there are on the same page about stuff and there also not efficient, they they have an issue like the one of their big issue. Is paying people there are taught us that, and who have fought in war and survived somewhat the life injuries and there, I'm getting paid because the government doesn't have the money to give them. Who knows. Maybe they spent an opium, I'm kidding, I the this law.

A guy named Daniel she's, a veteran to rally the vets into something called. The shoe rebellion the Shea rebellion yeah. This was a group of vat. Led by Daniel Chaise, like you said, and they were not happy because they based who won the war and they weren't paid a nickel and this made the leaders of the United States very anxious because they needed something to kind of strengthened their executive power and the most powerful. In addition, they knew of was a king and they now certainly were not trying to style themselves in the image of a king. That was her the whole point, but John Adams, actually wrote quote hereditary monarchy or aristocracy are the only institution

they can possibly preserve the laws as well. As you know, they were not huge propose of the idea of unbridled democracy early on and this followed his inauguration, as vice president, when even design a system that used something resembling a hereditary Monarchy only was Terry Legislature, and he I had the notion of appointing the president for life. Yeah, we'll tell me that that's all they wanted right, mean and think about what they just experience. With George Washington, I mean he one, the war or with or without of everyone else. He won the war, as my quotes and then he stayed in power for quite a while, and he was considered a good leader. He was trusted by people and respected by people, and there was you know the rebellion rebellions against him in

The opinions against him were fairly good. I would say across the board they, even though you know he was alone by everyone, he could keep people in line and he had enough respect too yeah, so she rebellion. Of course it's terrifying thing to these guys, because we're talking about around four thousand like battle, trained and tested people who said don't tread on me. We're not going to take it anymore this this. What what on earth were fighting for right and they have valid claims, a valley problems, so we have to crack down this. This might surprise a lot of people to learn that many founding fathers were so pro monarch, but it should be even more surprising that these founding fathers conspired against the nation they create

which was very anti monarchy right, a lot of the the what pulp we call the common people I in seventeen, eighty six, the president of the Continental Congress, that annual bore him decided they were going to pitch european royalty on becoming the king of the United States so Gorham rights to Prince Henry. Who is this younger brother of Frederick the great depression king at the time and in it- letter which is a real letter, its lost now, but a really happened. They invite Henry to go across the pond and become king of United States of America, and they said you know: you're gonna, you're gonna be head of a constitutional monarchy. We ve modeled it. The english system, because that's what we understand. is that not a little hypocritical

More than a little there, but it's just odd that that was the solution, in in maybe it was just to have a crown someone you know: have a crown and the money associated maybe to stave off by art in how're. I just don't understand the thinking maybe, and I personally need to do some were reading on it, and I highly recommend you listening do the same, because that is puzzling concept. Will I also don't understand? I didn't realize that there was such a like. You know, focus on a monarchy. Ask form of gum when considering that it was all a product of rebelling against a monarchy, and you know and to your point the idea. Now you hate you now political d it is these which, at the end of the day, are sort of a modern form of monarchy. You know by different name by it functions very much the same dimension. The idea, like Supreme Court justices that are appointed for life.

do have some things that resemble some of those you now forms of and considering that all of this again was like a rebellion against those, terms, I think it's fascinating that there was such a you now early push towards making it a lot like the thing they had rebelled against right right. That's that's the issue They should bother you if you live in the: U S. The only reason we don't have a king now is because of what Henry said to me. Blunt about it. Henry turned down the job: that's why We didn't end up with a king, he was invited became, and he said good I know what Americans do kings so naturally we have the quote. He said The Americans have shown so much determination against their old king that they would.

readily submit to a new one, smart guy, so the delegates in Philadelphia went to their plan b and today we call that plan B, the? U S, constitution, that's ridiculous! Now, that's good! I vow that! Well, I did not know this been. Thank you so very close to you to becoming the thing it sought to destroy but yes they're. Just remember I mean just to give these. You know that we're talking about here in the and all these goes a little benefit of the doubt there, trying to figure out a way to have a strong leader that that, as you said, the quote, common people would would respect and kind of bow to without actually having to bow that makes sense

and, like you said this, is these are the systems they knew before. This is what worked before just because they didn't like having a king. all the way across an ocean dictating what they had and had to do and couldn't do maybe There was a desire to have someone like that or a power structure like that, just there would be on the land which they occupied I don t know I figure make you really good point may be it saying will have monarchy cause. We know they work, but will have one that is our monarchy ripe, something where we have not yet ready regrets. offspring near her eye and then maybe we'll get support from the presence or something but these kind of machinations happen all the time right. In the these sorts of calculations,.

That's why that leads us to another interesting one, the boss to massacre seventeen seventy march. Fifth, you ve the name. It's a it's an altar occasion that leads to that. That kind of comes a a spark that ignites a larger flame an angry mob surrounds this century and they start talking trash to whatever sure, whatever the colonial american version of trash talking is you know what I mean they're like you smell of laudanum, I don't know, and they have an acre colleagues come to support this century and then situation escalates and people are throwing stones and clubs in snowballs, which I thought was wholesome at the soldiers and in the nine soldiers opened fire on the crowd. They kill five people,

the wound, six, others only two were convicted of anything. mass slaughter with reduced sentences. The rest are acquitted without going into this too deep. There is an idea that the boss, the massacre, was purposely instigated that it wasn't just nor gigantic kind of perfect. Storm of tension and Anita waiting for the shoe to drop this idea, someone got together, someone conspired and said: okay go up start talking to this person, let's get them to fire on us. Why would they do but we ve seen this before the past. If you can make an opponent act aggressively towards you without taking aggressive action towards them, public opinion is more likely to be in your favour, as the person being attacked rather than the attacker right.

think that's their primary motivation there. I avoid what I dont, know how that would work Armenia would have to be. I can only imagine it being a group of people. Speaking to you know. this angry mob or whoever they are and just kind of making them, angrier and angrier and getting more and more worked up and then doing Conaway you're saying venture didn't, go hey! Look over there! Look at that guy. Let's go tell him to go back across the pot but even then, I don't see how the Boston Mass occur I gave was. It was a rallying cry. I just don't see how that strategically would be the thing in place. It yeah that's the thing and reason, excellent point, because we have to remember win. someone is proposed new theory like that they are doing so with the knowledge of what happened after the Boston massacre it. It puts a great deal of predictive power.

Any conspirator here to assume that day purposefully instigated something and somehow new, roughly. What effects that massacre would have that This put in a lot on. You know what in the air? Let's remember what the pro for the new american century, said in their report, we put our right before the events of September eleven two thousand one where they said. We need a new Pearl harbor, You ran in the whole concept of that was too to form and public opinion. to make everybody: okay, with spending more money on war on wartime stuff, on armies and You have materialised, oh heavens, well, yeah I mean I mean, I'm sort of being flippant. But it's like, I think, that's a lot of the reasons. There are so many conspiracy theory. behind nine eleven is it it certainly accomplished a goal for like these hawkish. You know, people that were in power

like gave them a really great excuse to kind of dual Baden which often and seek out the war. They wanted, not a silly. The war that made sense. as retribution yea, not saying that the project for new american century or anyone cause nine eleven as a false flag attack. We are not saying Not only that he'd have to say, I can see why people's minds would go there because of what it did. It was really what the what the winner, Neo conservative playbook was calling for Hey, it's exactly what it was calling for the EP. Would it doesn't mean we can anyone can prove that? And you know This is now I live. That's where firmly knots I think that having it just a very interesting parallel to what we're talking about, Yeah that report comes just before the two thousand election and then their knots

specifically saying the towers in New York into blow up, but they do say a new Pearl harbor, some catastrophic events and it clearly there are tons of opportunist. Taking advantage of, of this situation, right of the chaos and soon after this, but without a my met. That's a great example. That's, I think, that's incredibly grounding because some of this can seem a little bit a little bit distance right because we have again the benefit of centuries but I don't want to leave this scene of the massacre just yet Learn some cloning insults. I would like to tell you what I They were probably calling the sky. They were probably calling him a gentleman of three out. That's a man lacks with money and manners gets three and a low poop.

I'm sorry alone, poop illegally, allow l, L, l poop. Lazy idle man, the female equivalent is the facade I didn't know they were doing like acronym insults. Let's have some next level stop right there. The law poop is now had emerged very soon, the local and then they probably then a I guilt or rum double these are great man. Palliatives and clapper do guns, clapper, Dogan CAT, clapper tokens dude and I'll be doubly eyes with the guys I wasn't actually at the boss, domestic, so I'd inside but, but I love Lobo Anyway Movie died. What, if, It's a secret war happening what, if it's not just the? U S or what will become the? U S, fighting with Britain out what? If, after that, foundation of the. U S

are waging a war against the Illuminati. Did alien and sedition acts which were signed into law in one thousand, seven hundred and ninety eight under President John Adams, we're super controversial because they gave the government like fascist level dictator powers, over political dissenters and over people that were considered to be foreigners, which is which is pretty weird, because you know many people who fought in the revolutionary war were orders, so, oh eight, always all them. So this is this act is ultimately repealed. some of some pieces of it survive today. That prompts people to think there might be some sort of hidden purpose behind the legislation it extended there. I am for residency from just five years to fourteen. This is where this is where it gets very weird. These are

very harsh, anti immigrant laws. They give the federal government great power to kind of cherry pick, and choose who they wish to allow into the country and the ideas that their true. we'd out members of the Illuminati before they can become a danger to to the newly birthday you s. That's so weird, it's so interesting. I do not think it's true. I do it. I don't understand how it can the, I think xenophobia is a real enough conspiracy on its own and there you have it folks. These are just a few of them very strange, very crazy conspiracy theories were secrets of the founding fathers. the one that person bothers me. The most is just how close this country came to becoming a monarchy. So Henry, if you are out there and listening to the show. Somehow thank you for turning down the job.

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