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we are talking today about one of my favorite subjects, governments secrets and the search for psychic powers or just fringe science right, we're failure that, yes, anything on the fringe. You and I grew up, love x files. You twilight Zone, our limits, yeah we ve sat through a couple the downer seasons of French yeah. They have came in. It was a manifest season. By the way you should know Always it yeah, I'm finished it. Ok! Well, please, don't worry. I won't tell me hey, I what the the writers did, a good job, good, no job smiling. I offer her my only. I don't believe it. I know I'm kidding it's it's one man's opinion, but when we are talking about these things. We now surely go to

One of the cruellest subjects we talked about and while which was this soviet version of entail. I mean S only called on the shower. I am also the soviet version of projects target yeah. It's it's gone. Similarities to the weirdness that our own, the? U S, government was doing now. What was projects targeted projects target because, basically, again, trying to make psychic measures in the? U S trying to figure out a way to unlock this weird mind body connection that was hitherto pseudoscience by even allow people who are doing it, but but they wanted to me sure that it wasn't real. You know so that perhaps we on the other, so tat. If it is real and we just spending the money to research it and one of our enemies does. And we're in a whole heap of trouble. Yet and when we we're talking about psychic powers. I wrote to you, as I like specifics, were specifically talking about I'm one of one of the biggest things.

Research on the. U S, side was out of body experience. Is it possible to train people to train soldiers or intelligence operators to travel remotely and to somehow perceive things, thousands of kilometers away near remote, viewing man that was one of the biggest bushes as the term remove viewing Ngos why one of the biggest guys in this and So when I was a kid I had those time life, mystery books, oh yeah, I talked about Ngos swan at length and its end because swine maintains that he really has a legitimate ability to do this and other people who worked with him have our the same thing, but not all of them and quite a given that this was shut down is because ultimately, we just found that there was no real ability to do

or that, even if Disability existed it. Not applicable or use yeah and was an accurate enough right. Just kind of work so was it so many current seven they shut down there. There s p programme, yet story guys Sony Hand he program, that's for another day and they used it in him all of their cd technologies such as It is crazy. It actually says yes pee on there you remember that having a while, then as perfect. I answer the point, because it's it's it's strange. We that's one of the things that you and I didn't believe we first started reading it. We were convinced that yes, peace stood for some other acronym yeah. You know like electronic sound pretty

Yes, they were that yeah, but this this one was a real yes programme and the? U S, of course, had them as well the soviet ideas for very different. Now. A lot of this that comes to us comes from recently to classified documents, and they are just the the tip, a red iceberg here no, but I just I wrote it down earlier so went to China, but these these programmes, If the information were getting can be trusted Dan and nineteen seventeen, which is the year of the Russian Revolution NASA to the USSR and that's it continued till two thousand three officially, which is even more interesting to me, and they did research in a different way

their research was meant to be a little more quantitative and qualitative rife? so they measured the they. They wanted to walk away with concrete numbers, and compare and compile and analyze these the data so that they could figure out There is really something going on a lot of their experiments, focus so much on remote. Viewing as they did on the idea of electromagnetic or electoral chemical, feel yeah I examined said that free energy that's been searched for, since we figures man is figured out that there is energy or there's some kind of electricity or power that you can harness yet environment in their. So many

will have looked for it and failed to find it. In my opinion, the lower Reich Tesla go yeah and, We we know that the we owe them the governments of the time in the USSR was on board. With a lot of this stuff, and you can see some fascinating photographs of devices that people are dealt with. The idea that they would harness this energy through things called Sir PAN. That's strange. Looking things they look like Thermos is almost yeah we're handles their cylindrical. With these handles dont know, some of them were strapped to people. Some of them were simply held the idea being that, if all living things emanate this field in some way, and then we could old, something that Agri Gate and apply or direct this energy

and they were directing it with the with the hope of doing things like having plants Oh faster. Was wine producing neurological effects. So having someone's brain shouldn't be a it in some way. Gases. Frighteningly he heard no yeah but that would be great if you could somehow really send out an in here, sing intelligence re with some device. It was strapped on you. I guess you need a group of people in if it worked the way they thought it would work days upset T buy IBM for businesses around the world. Today is an a restart. It's a rethink. That's why they're partnering with IBM retailers are keeping theirs up as millions of orders move on mine hunters, are using IBM Watson to manage an influx of customer questions with a sigh and solution.

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Torsion generators. We do have to point out that the Russians, or rather the soviets at this time, did have psychics that they would conduct testimony and those tat would be some of the same stuff. We here in the United States and Europe are the of whether not clairvoyance existed, which was proven satisfactorily the idea whether or not there would be an ability to predict the future salt. Approving very well they can nieces, which, as much as I wanted to be real, was not proven. I'm again, if you, The aim of those things truly are real right now, listening at the and I dont mean to sound like an extreme sceptic, because I am certainly not as soon as I have evidence that shows me that any other things are real, I'm down because I want to believe just like the x files, but you should We talk to or listen to, James Randi, because the guy makes some really great points just about how is

bring traveller the moneyed anybody that can prove this stuff, oh, that's right. Yes, the famous one million dollars for proof of any psychic power, psychological or paranormal phenomenon by James Randi, and it's a little bit controversial. In fact, I'd like to do a pie cast on that may be in the future. What'd you, I'm gonna, be telling. This is the part where we might differ. I think that it is quite possible in the future. We will come to understand a scientist, explanation for what we perceive location, to be psyche powers. I know what I know. I don't think so, gonna go oh telling me is really just discovered it and twenty eighteen, I think, that's preposterous, but be some kind of fourth dimension more time

torsion right? We understand so little about the nature of consciousness, the name of physics, especially at a very soon a very large level that we are, we don't need. We don't even have gravity figured out. If you think about the the angels span of human history. My friend, we are still in the dark ages, so I think I'm I'm gonna be a little more optimistic about it. A little We don't have the tools yet discover the experts. Since, behind a lot of these things, there were the explanations behind a lot of these reports. We do know that their if you mundane things, they can explain stuff like the feeling of deja vu, has a fairly there's a fairly solid theory of what happens or brain that makes us perceive that right and they didn't this when they were doing a lot of these cold war, experiments rain and They had some enemies. We talked about the

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with those who understand the struggles and the choice of raising tiny humans subscribed now for brand new episodes every other Thursday listen to Katie's grip on I real app or an apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast, but there's I think there was a bit of cynicism in some of these programmes. We do know that the Soviets also sent people too. Ah Shangri LA too out to search the the depths in enough through Tibet, for I think, began to purposes more than anything else. I don't think they were really out to discover ancient secret, so much as they were to discover some brilliant marketing. You have. That would have been just the low icing on the cake if they had actually discovered something crazy, yeah and

There is an interesting part here when we talk about this. Oh, when we talk about what they did discover, because here's your part, we don't know, run any idea. Isn't that always That is the case so often with us because we there so which information that's withheld from everyone that we cannot get up against this war in I just for if you're new listener, perhaps in a show we re, trying to not speculate as much as you. The information that is there and then part you go. Maybe a couple inches over that line just to let you know, we think there's yet In this respect. There are some things that we can say about russian or soviet research in these fields. We know that France's we know that both a former defined minister and prudent himself have talked about the future

unconventional weapons. I also know that in the west search on these directed energy weapons is is occurring. We know that Technology exists to give people the sensation that they are hearing, voices which is free right. You heard about one matter that that gives me nightmares we we know it's it's fairly obvious that the actual bleeding your cutting edge of technology is several years at minimum ahead of what the public thinks it is boy. The latest revelations they just came out, which will be a few weeks all down this publishes, which we pay. Did to our Facebook earlier today was at the say, doesn't need an internet connection to hack a computer anymore, no she's, a radio signal just a radio waves and a little gadget about the size of a brief case that someone. Respecting dude is carrying out oh, but

worry. It's not in the United States. Right sorry, everybody else yeah, but the, but the point making is that it is completely possible. That's of this. Research into really crazy stuff led to applicable result I liked the comparison. I want asked mothers comparison, that arms in alchemy right way. Back in the dark ages right the arm, the weird she'd be called dish, father of chemistry, alchemy, People were conducting experiments to see what happened to try to create life with a biologist, sir, my pronouncing corner yes, and trust to explain logic in some ways, trying to change thing into gold and in

most cases. These alchemists did not discover what they thought they were discovering they discovered other things because they were curious and they mind getting their hands all dirty in gold leaf. The right now then we really just need more. Curiosity. I think yeah exactly so they discovered things not necessarily what they meant to discover, but they did find valuable innovations because they were curious and they were attempting to be methodical. I think the same thing could have- and here I mean History- is lousy with exam. The people who accidentally discovered something doing something else. You like the guy who invented the microwave, did mean to cook food. What now that chocolate barges melted mean the signs of an yeah. They sound work enough and we have done small inkling of what is actually

being discovered, and we know we bring up the active denial system right in inner video and it's it's freaky, its paying re. Ah, we still don't know what Russia might have on the other side, and it's strange that governments could change, but the same documents We remain classified, isn't it yeah, and essentially so. Where do me the idea that a government would change but you're you're armed force, They're gonna be fairly similar unless they're involved in what other, whatever uprising occurs, the change of government if an uprising occurs the low if they came be just took over yeah. I truly interesting Thinking about sorry, my brains went somewhere completely differ about just the changing of guard between different governments. How much

that underlying researcher that underlying technology woods exist in. I would say that it probably would oh yeah we. While we know that I wouldn't. In the case of nuclear technology, there are proliferating, and know how that were spreading around NATO and Russia itself work to stop the transmission of those worked finger quotes fingered words yearly. They made the plight noises we will So everyone know that there's a there's this great Document that we read unconventional research in Russia, a shorter review, its online right now you can just go. Let the authors name is surge Kallenbach. That's s e r d and UNESCO, you'll find a list of the stuff that we know they tried

some of the funding and some of the notable scientists? That's where the rabbit all begin well serve as you can find much interesting stuff in my favorite part above at article or the pictures yeah. I thought I deal with and I was able to use a bunch of them in our episode yellow we'll find the serpent yeah? We want your thoughts on this. Do you think that governments continue psychic research. Do you think it was financial boondoggle and people. This paranoid. Do you think that you have evidence of psychic powers, because if it checks. We love you in that million dollars. Oh yes, We should also put up a link on r r webs that has has information about the James Randi Prize. I have a blog posts about it from earlier. Also check it out there and the very last thing I have to do

Can I read you some listener? Male, oh, please do he says he's been met. My name's, you first offer one. I thank you for providing a super load of source of irritation regarding stuff there watching a nice prodigious. Creation for the wide range of topics addressed, as well as the obvious in depth. Research conducted, thou, interesting. Well thanks for stepping up vocabulary wise there you. Secondly, I wonder, if you be interested in covering their knowing complicity, IBM played in the annihilation of millions of Nazi concentration Camp prisoners during world war. Two now. This is something that you and I are talked about before right man. Yes, yes, we of end. It another one of those heavy subjects fight. Interested as much as yours, I'd like to tackle it as well. I think it's a great suggests He calls it a slam, Dunk topic at the risk of being romantic

and he s got some great citations here about books written many, I add one black one that might be interesting to you. Listen up! IBM in the Holocaust, the strategic Alliance between Nazi Germany, America's most powerful corporation now, one thing we do know about this, is that be the role of private corporations in the rise of the Nazi Party is an ugly part, History, that has also completely true wealth. Another merit there were american sympathisers with Nazi Party, who were just in highly placed influential positions of corporations. Also active politicians with popular support, no course to be completely air. In many cases, especially, was politicians cases there I had no idea what the Nazi Party was gonna become and later goin to do, but this is,

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