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is armed with ventures and will return. They call me bed, we are joined, as always with our super producer, relaxes code, name, Doc, holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you argue you are here, and that makes this stuff. They don't want you to know it's the truth, the weak. So we are exploring strain news agenda. We gets an we got. Some strange going on here we got. We had a lot of response to our earlier reports about cargo cults and Prince Philip, so our advent, Just today involve royalty, they involve ufos, they involve democracy or the lack thereof we're we're going in many directions to with today he showed. No people do Matt proud, but my first question, for you is

I saw a headline we're researching ahead of this day that you hit the team to about friends philip- and this is something I did not know about the late Uk Royal yeah, in addition to new dabbling in casual racism, it turns out that he's super into ufos who knew. I also looks like that character from that one Buffy, the vampire Slayer episode that everyone likes where nobody can talk and their these, like creepy, like sinister dues in suits, that you know whatever. I think that was called hush actually, but yeah creepy. Looking very, very problematic, guy also found out that in the name of his autobiography is the driest name in the history of biographies. It's called Prince Philip. That violent early life of the man who married Queen Elizabeth, the second That's like a real page turner, but

the gentleman Philip Ede, who wrote this biography or worked on his biography with Prince Philip we found the conversations going in some way unusual directions he came after. He had worked previously on a book about some prominent UFO experts or you have fallen if you will- and this was actually after world WAR two- this is like super old school. You know you are photons and prince fill up. It turns out. It has a massive collection books on Ufos subscribes to a british quarterly magazine called flying Saucer review. That seems so antiquated the idea of flying saucer review. As you know, the name itself would make Mina people don't take it super

seriously. You think so anymore, adding review the things makes them feel in the academic. That's a good point, then, that author by over there there two philips in this story, I think there's Prince Philip and then the author, Philip Ed, right, you d and Yet in the process of researching this book, he found out all this stuff. And obviously, as we know, by by the way. This is article great article that runs down of this there's a few actually misuse like it just came out after the the Duke of Edinburgh passing but yet advice has as an article that can it goes through a lot of stuff that definitely used as a primary research source for this. This conversation but super interesting magazine, especially considering the way, behaved towards those who cause caught situations. You know like

can a leading into a little fat opposing views selfies, and all of that right them, so we're there weren't they everybody who wrote in about that earlier story not everybody had the same perspective, but I think we can all agree, regardless of your opinions, about Prince Philip monarchy in general. Are the people who are part The royal family lead very different and oftentimes. As odd as it may sound very demanding lives like they're, not in coal mines. They're not stealing, stripping copper from abandons warehouses, but they are held to some rigid social standards. They are required to do all sorts of diplomatic functions and so on with a story like this. What I think is really interesting is that it's not one of those things is something that the guy was clearly

personally into new at I get the feeling check, checking others wiser coldly and a couple of other things. I get the feeling that he was the kind of person who, if you were at those diplomatic functions? If you just saw him around the house, and you wanted strike up a conversation. I bet the best icebreaker was you know? What are you about you, have those dude, you couldn't called do disease the Duke of Edinburgh but desire my Lord, should you calculate that block a written here. You're Duke ship, totally valid Yet the very least, I think you would appreciate the all lived ass any of it yet the outright audacity you mean you're right, like these. The inner we talked about the royal family and people have opinions is obviously a great source of light kind of reality- show ask entertainment for many people and they get a lot of. Because this sort of these figureheads that don't we have direct influence over

policy, but they certainly have indirect influence over policy. Is evidenced by the story. That, apparently, Prince Philip was he's talking about your photos to his equerry actuary, which is an officer within the royal household. I yesterday a valet but like more like official and The gentleman has the most british now of all times, Sir Peter hoarsely he went on to become the deputy commander in chief of the Royal Airforce Strike Command, which sounds really epoch. But apparently after Queen Elizabeth was was court coordinated. This is it is it ok, can you see coordinated? now. We all know, however, that word used in that form after her coronation in nineteen fifty three he privately asked hoarsely or, dare I say, Cannon instructed firstly, to look into quote credible,

of alien encounters or UFO sightings, and he himself is quoted saying that there are many reasons that extraterrestrials exist, because is so much evidence from reliable witnesses, and he said this a long time ago way before me, this disclosure stuff. What is it you think, there's information sharing between the? U S and british government or there's british intelligence about the alien. Just like we have some of the stuff is starting to kind trickle out I know you generally work with horses old boy, but two go dancing digging and tell me about these extraterrestrials Vive Yea Euro. It's it's interesting because at that level. What you'll see is that information- sharing can become pretty informally.

There are formal classified information sharing agreement especially in the anglo sphere or country between countries in the anglo sphere, but also if you're, Prince Philip and you're on terms with a? U S, president or the president of some other country, you will be dinner party somewhere, and you can just say: what's your take on your phone What are you guys got? You see anything interesting? It does have to be the president. It could be the director of national intelligence and then they could conceivably off the record. Share some stuff have a conversation technically that would probably be illegal, but I'm sure it's happened before and I'm not surprised

Clearly, we have to remember Prince Philip, grew up and and lived in a time when especially like leading up to will work to postwar were two people were intensely interested in the idea of unidentified flying object. So I think it makes sense. Also is interesting, because I wonder- and this may be and for a british listeners. I wonder how much he would have known about classified classified aircraft. Research in in the UK would it be needs new basis. Does he count as someone who needs to know? Can you just pull rank and learn everything her? How compartmentalized is their information also points for normative determinism? The equerry is back in the day the EP worry was in charge of the horses, I believed and Re S name is hoarsely.

Oh they're exec, of course that makes sense equine yeah. That's a didn't you think about that. Then the equerry belies he. The wise you do you have a guy are. Does Prince Philip. My question: is this Prince Philip believe that horses. Ufos are related because if so that's very interesting- and I want to hear his take on it- take on it, he's got many attacks that will never here, but on fascinated by this biography. I'm sure there's some interesting quotes in it certainly seems like it went in an unconventional direction, but the sky hoarsely is quoted. Quite a few times, and you now publicly talking about this where he has a really great creepy can have little british, What about him was no question. He is quoted in saying that Philip, had him invite,

individuals to Buckingham Palace to talk about their encounters with extra Austria life for you are furs, and he said that he and Philip thought this was a quote method as effective as any truth? Serum because no one would dare tell in the royal family. I think to the phrase the excellent vice article jealousy Castro, dual use it. Is church in front of yet another of the royal family, with that's just bed and I actually goes gonna mental. She is, I thought that was me hoarsely himself talking, which sounded like so super british enlightenment and witty banal realise this is totally this creative licence by the by the writer here, but excellent phrase, an duckling, an ad. That's my vocabulary and wool pause for word from our sponsor. They will return with more strange news,

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Then the public forgets that people, even people in high positions of worldly power, are still just human and have Hobbes and s interests and ease and quirks like hoarsely, was far from it sceptic to my understanding. He believed in you have, in aliens who believed in ufos. He also believed in telepathy, and he actually believes he met an alien named Mr Janice like the other, even right, Yeager yeah, exactly just talk him with her with our friend Victor last night about whether is pronounced, Janice or Gina I think the legacy genocide just I saw it. The argument was that he thinks it's Janice and I definitely have heard it pronounced both ways. But I always say a JANUS too, because I like the soft day as well Ben but yeah Mr Janice. JANUS ass- if you wanna Tower was like this, the apparently this dude,

who is supposedly it had like an encounter with an alien there, because he he was like betting people. He was basically Grooming inventing these, like UFO encounter people to come, hang out about impel us like a thing. I guess whether You could argue with for his own, amusement, Prince Phillips or genuinely he was like. Oh you know, the truth is out there kind of vibe, but he obviously took it pretty seriously and had this guy go out and five people with these stories to share an hoarsely said basically said, then the guy had like borderline telepathic abilities and You know I have this uncanny ability to read his thoughts here is a quote from hoarsely wrote. I asked him why you wanted to meet Prince Philip and he replied Prince Philip as a man of great vision sin of world renowned and a leader, In the realm of wild life and the environment,

a man who believes strongly in the proper relationship between man and nature, which we approve of great importance in future galactic harmony, who And then horsey goes on to say that he has this got a dead eyes. You and he believed him self to be some sort of extra terrestrial being, or two dimensional. What at whatever right the aid the daily mail. He didn't say he was a visitor from another planet, but I had impression. I believe he was here to observe us. I never saw again and there's not no other than his account horse leads account. I don't believe there or any other real traces of Mr J. So we don't know the veracity of Ley statement.

I think he has a reason to lie, but also I, when I see quotes like the the longer when that you read from Mr J. I don't leave. Those are that's a little duke I think at the very least worse. These may be paraphrasing from memory, but the evidence here is the implication that the vibe, horse got was, he was alien and you know he said he's here to observe is I never saw him again, I think that's a fashion in story and I'm not saying telepathy is impossible, but I am saying cold reading is very well proven. It is possible to like a lot of people, no matter how you feel about psychic powers. There are people who purposes pretend to have psychic powers and they're really just doing a cold. Read on you right, I feel like you may have

be in love at some points with someone was gone. Did their name. It is a war. It's a man, the man his name is Gary Gary. His name is Gary and then people are like. Well, that's amazing, and this guy, you know I do I'm just we don't know how this idea of reading thoughts goes about or because I dont know. If there were more specific examples, I think daily mail. As from ninety seven right arrived, he talks a little bit more about that, but I didn't see didn't see something labour hoarsely said said: I it am, I thought of a number. He told me the number kind of that as well such a daily mail thing to print, isn't my new like er, you know sure they. The headline was like Prince Philip, meets alien or whatever or Prince Philip's

es. Horsemen meets alien in London flat, but apparently this obsession we ever that we have enough information to call it an obsession quite yet, but certainly was enthuse for all things. Extraterrestrial came a kind of came honestly buyer was was encouraged by his uncle british names in this story laud Louis Dickie, Mount Bason, who, according The other vice article is in that show the crown which I have not seen but I've I keep hearing United, etc part of the conversation right now. I feel like I'm missing out a little bit, but he is the one who got him into flying saucer review in the first place, because he himself was a subscriber and he wrote a letter I am I want to say it was like who flying saucer review it's a little unclear but anyway, and in some correspondence I would love the idea of like a british role

in writing in till I flying Also review magazine. Like those you end, the end have like have like letters from stuff readers and stuff like of comic books. But he said that he believed that anyone who is piloting these alien, these alien craft, again very specific, like he's, referred something that we were not privy to had to have come from another planet in his is a quote from the ours is martians. Vanunu, shins Jude, Terry ends, or what have you that? That's that's? Who was piloting these alien craft eyes is, why should life on another planet with entirely different conditions in any way resemble life on our planet? That's a really good point: Lord Louis Dickie Mount Batten as something that always comes up and in conversations about aliens or it's like how Silly. Are we to think that, like a some magical gold Lp that we sent out the space is going

of any use to other alien civilization. I gotta have a technology that we have one the one they ve got their own thing, they're, probably in their own little technological bubble eagerly super advanced or maybe me now just completely different terms and the equipment like physiologically right all. That's that's why the primary goal in alien contact or attempts to communicate is math based, primarily physics, fundamental rules of the game of the universe. As we know it that don't change, that's that's some of the stuff. That's inscribed on those disks that you mentioned it's funny, because the human species is so self obsessed that there there is a lot of stuff being sent out. There

it's just probably not going to make sense at all to a non human intelligence without a ton of context, but you know the more I think about it. Look into this a little bit before we recorded it well, what's the line between like a hobby, her enthusiasm and obsession this. This also seems to be something that has a little bit of nostalgia to the prince because he and his uncle corresponded in chopped it up so often about Ufos. I so there's there's a social bond there, and there is also, unfortunately, there's a little bit of evidence that members of the british scientific elite saw these guys is kind of batty.

When Montan wrote to the Ministry of Defense is chief scientific adviser, a guy named Lord Sally Zuckerman, which is fun to say, is Zuckerman, said Here's what I think you have those there in the same category as a ghost where the Loch Ness Monster has there's no evidence that any of the matter exist, and maybe this was somewhat but a little bit of cold water for months because he later, according to the current, the records seem to gradually drift away from interesting ufos to other interests. First off. You know I love self directed research. I love when people have passions and interest and you know. I think it's fair to assume that these guys would have had the juice, the pool to learn more than the average UFO enthusiasts, but was there ever any like revelation that they disclosed in their lifetimes. Yeah me.

Certainly were they had some pretty specific theories MT batten. He started off with him. Just saying, like you know what is generally considered. Probably a Progressive view on what Ali interaction pressure life by look like here. A man there there would be very little frame of reference recognition between you know, humanoid forms and languages and construction in what would exist so so very far away and disconnected from us, he I believe, is the covers issues having with them with the Prince Philip by talked about. Why are really gets into some some serious detail where he says that these creatures, might be gaseous or circular or very large, they certainly can't breathe. I mean that's right out

and they may not have to eat, and I doubt if they have babies, bits of their great disks may break away and grow into a new creature. If the human race is to survive. They may have to band together. I guess against these gelatinous cubes from outer space, I'm not trying to dismissive, it's just really interesting and am also kind of shocked that this, this chief chief minister, whatever Lord Solid soccer. Men had the stones to go up again, the royal family like that and openly. I guess I did credit him or, at the very least kind of neg. His whole thing right Given our seas, just given his opinion is paid to be as scientific advisers or so I suppose was, but I just feels, like that's tricky Torreon of your really out openly criticised.

As a member of the royal family, like that it is, it just seems a little ballsy, it's all eyes to what you say, but you know he's also of upper class- he is a Lord, so he's got- probably got a little more leeway in that regard by its you know, there is a good point about the of the description there when they say life or might be possibly circular because if you, if you imagine let's say a space ferrying species were you imagine something that somehow evolved in a vacuum of space right without the same kind of gravitational constraints, terrestrial species then that radio symmetry makes sense. There's nothing incentivize, you too, like pushing against drew growing in a specific direction. So I can see that

down for space jellyfish. I would not be surprised if a lotta, if there somewhere out there in the universe, theirs, Where then, one kind of life form that does look similar to the forms we recognized in the deep oceans, I just don't think reality is a creative enough. These are all eyes of physics to come up with a brand new stuff. If it does, it have to ass a good point ban. That's a good point. You know Philip till the day he died. Presumably, never lost his fervour for malian exploration, and he Apparently, as recently as last summer, read a book about the Randal Shim Forest incident. Have we done on this Lisbon. I don't know the rendition forests incidents would apparently it's one of english

most well known, UFO, citing yeah. I dont remember we have, but it's come up. It's one of those things are recall a phantom topic a It happened in December of nineteen eighty. If we haven't, I haven't done a You want a near. We should definitely doing episode on the agreed. All this to say that you now he definitely up until the end was with super into this and didn't let any back talking. Science people dissuade him. The writer of his vice piece, who you mentioned, Jess Elissa Castra Dale, names- and this made a really good point- that, like a cypher This one. You know science schmuck, who be no kind of poor, the cold water on Lord. What is it Latin America, but Mount battle. Excuse me she points out that you know people of the upper crust,

who maybe have country estates and in our members of the royal family are adjacent. At the very least, you know that that old old old moneyed. You know british high society when they talk about stuff like this they're like praised for being open minded and free thinking. You never win more light blue collar folks talk about it there. You know ass politely to leave the Wendy's this Ever was the difference between being noted, eccentric and a raging. Loon is merely really comes down. A social status and income that's a boy and make it earlier. Would you here when you hear about very powerful people being very human rights?

for all the things that being very human means. I it's it shouldn't be surprising. I guarantee you, everybody is weird and some level and in the people who look they are in charge of the world or hold the reins of a country. I hope everyone listen finds it reassuring to to know this. Here this very well. They are just as weird is you? If not, weirder there more opportunities to get real eccentric man. Opportunities for weirdness and a lot of yes, people surrounding you and kind of encouraging your free email whim. That that's a recipe for eccentricity to be sure. But I thought this was a lot of fun and interesting way to remember someone who history baby hasn't quite settled in on how we feel about this. Guy- This is wholly racist comment that he kind of according to a quote, unquote racist comment about you,

well he asked exactly, I think, in the egg specifically use that word. He just asked or sick, Some envoy and some diplomatic trip he was that there was group of indigenous people that performed some sort of dance. A situation, and he just like very casually said you still throw spears at each other which is obviously you now super. We in problematic but actually found it article. I don't know how it came But it said it was an article four, maybe see where one of the individuals who he said this too felt that the com not was not racist, don't necessarily think it's always up to the person and so we are That'S- I wanna go circle back. The cargo cult thing ban because he obviously is weird weird reverence towards this man. From some now indigenous people right yeah yeah I mean that's not

That's not uncommon. There was reverence from Us indigenous community, but reverent, there's reverence for all sorts of celebrities were noted political figures, there's another example, I always think of I did. I did some they're gonna get member would show. This was, for you know, who's in Paraguay rather be haze. Nineteenth you as president here, people love on their their statues? They celebrate on a yearly basis. They dont think he's a god he's, not a mythical figure. Buddy a national hero, so I I can see just celebrity, and were now it's it's very it's very weird thing. I dont know what, rather for be haze, thought of you ever I know nothing about him other than the fact that he's got a pretty memorable name and then that's about all. I remember in this.

The same ABC article and I know we got to move on and by the way, the comment that the Prince field made. It was an australian visit to Queensland Australia, and he one of the gentlemen. He said that to, totally defended him and said: oh he's a lovely man, he didn't mean anything by it and and then goes on to really gush about the guy. In Australia. He is be, it was and is still beloved and largely it had to do with the fact that he was so open and free, speaking in presumably free thinking and would come to say whatever across his mine as opposed to the queen, who is seen as being very me, now closed off and and formal. He was fairly. This quote from this the way he was perceived by us aliens historian, who literally her toilet specific specializations

is a historian on royal visits to Australia, the head. She said that he was famous. Far from being more open than the very guarded queen. So ninety fifty four He was young and fairly handsome. He was dynamic white and a breath of fresh air, all this kind of tracks. Like, I said, very very interesting- did lot kind of mixed messages around the sky over time, but love the fact that he was a big you, her forehead and so there we leave this story of the Duke of Edinburgh, fellow you Ethel enthusiasts out we're gonna paused for a word from sponsor, who may or may not be illumination global, unlimited and we'll be right back and half a world away, but we're staying on earth for this text board for this by gas comes from new copper tone, sport, mineral we ve

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Mean MAR is a country that doesn't hit the US news too often, if you're the average resident of the. U s you you're, probably familiar with MR through the story of the democracy activists on suits, you Mi Amor is, if you look at a map, it's directly to the left of Thailand directly to the right of Bangladesh. It sits between those two countries. It shares a border with several other countries, including China. This has been a famously build infamously troubled country. For a long time, it's been ruled by a million. Hunt for most of our lifetimes. The less making the show and is something we ve talked about before, militaries and their responsibilities for function, instability of government

usually outlined in a country's constitution. Here's what happened recently. Amid the pandemic, there was an a time of what is often described, as was I democracy, Russell Goldman writing for the New York Times as agree, explain or peace on this February. First, there was a coup de taught in the country at it what back full military rule, I am the first to admit I've don't a little bit on Myanmar's military, primarily because of their decision five years ago to move the country's capital based on the advice of an astrologer. Now, oh yeah, it's a true story, I think the last I mentioned. I was trying to be really fair, was saying hey before you before anybody looks down their collective noses at that decision. Let's

number, that U S President's Like Ronald Reagan, have also taken advice from astrologers. So it's not it's not restricted to just one three the military had been in power in Myanmar, since nineteen sixty two and the period of was, I democracy begins in two thousand so there was a long multigenerational history of this being a country ruled by a military When democracy came into power in two thousand and eleven they were implementing reforms. Parliament Harry elections. It became very complicated, very quickly. The trouble, the recently

began on November. Eighth, the National League for democracy is the leading civilian party, and there were elections held on November, eight national league for democracy in El De one. Eighty three percent of the vote. Eighty three percent of the seats in parliament and what did the military do? They said it was a sham. They said it was a fried. They said this was a kangaroo. Election wise. They said that The national League for democracy did not, in fact when eighty three percent of the seats and, of course on San, is the head of that Democratic Party she's been as a result, the leader since twenty fifteen produce like a real people's care, at random issues absolutely beloved, and it's almost like the military resents that

the view adoration of this individual who Second, it is a pretty interesting figure unlike not not super problematic going on about politicians, have to say or whatever, but it's my understanding that she very much was kind of a humanitarian, individual and someone who the adoration of the people kind of makes sense right, yeah by. Unfortunately it's it's a little, it gets a little complicated when you see she's the people's candidate that qualifies as long as those People are not Ruhinga, which is the muslim ethnic minority group I Myanmar, the country launched a deadly campaign against this ethnic group and she supported it upon her release from house arrest. Oh, she was also locked up for years and years here she defended this this campaign

against the rohingya in like the international Court of Justice, so it wasn't just a throw away comment in an interview and a lot of her supporters. This is really a pragmatic move to cooperate with the military, because it will accelerate the evolution toward full democracy. But then, when the coup occurred on February first, it appeared that whatever cooperation or olive branch she had extended is not enough in their opinion. So here's what happened when when they said, the November elections were bogus, the military went to the country Supreme, Port and they said. Not only are these results fraudulent, but we are going to take action because it's our job as the mill, we're going to surround the house

The governmental bodies with soldiers sounds troubling less familiar to some of the actions on January six right, although those were you know, protesters or rioters, not Soldiers Foley, I totally. I was murmuring half of the story. She did have a early kind of period. Is this goal you know. Human rights kind of Beak beacon protest against regime that was very poor with their human rights current essentially within essentially went on TAT kind become the thing that she hated right like a sort of the complexity of this individual yeah yeah, unfortunately, the You know that the closer you looked at historical figures, the more

well. You know the more reputational warts you are likely to find and kind of the case with the Prince Philip as well. You know people at the top again are marked Justice- human as everyone else, the Miller hurry detained on sign suit. She also president, you win, meant also cabinet ministers, chief ministers of several regions, opposing politicians, riders acted as they were in people up left and right. It was the hottest new thing. The coup was pretty much announced to the public on the military owned tv station, made tv news anger. They are cited the constitution which had come into effect in two thousand and eight and said you know. That

military can legally declare a national emergency, and this state of emergency that have declared is going to stay in place for one year. After that point, the military took control of the communications. Pastry sure of Myanmar. They suspended most tv broadcasts, they cancelled flights, international and domestic. I mean this sounds this sound sort of par for the course. If your thoughts think about it as another country very far away, but it's important to think about how you would feel if this occurred in your country, whether that's the? U K, Australia, India is getting close with some their authoritarian measures, or you know whether and in the U S, what would you do? telephone internet access all suspended the stock market, the banks they were killed. There were long lines outside of atm, because people were rushing to get hard currency. People read

to the markets to stock up on food and supplies. People were panicking and their panic proved to be correct. The public responded with the number of peaceful protest, but on February twentieth the first official deaths occurred to unarmed protestors, were killed by security forces? One of those was a sixteen year old boy. There was a general strike, then, on February twenty second millions of people left their jobs took to the streets. And then they tried to fight back financially this civil disobedience movement crippled the banking system, so it was tougher for the military to get stuff done, but then the military became more violence in that trend increases the military. This boy has more than six hundred people and according to

national monitoring agencies, they've assaulted, detained or tortured thousands of others, and now The one of the other evolutions people are seeing. These peaceful protesters are mobilizing into what some journalists are describing a gorilla force. So remember when we talked about the farm protest, a lot of protesters were building barricades, protect themselves. This is happening in Myanmar, but they're they're not travelling to cities to build these barricades their bill. Barricades around their own neighbourhoods and learning how to make smoke bombs, their training and basic forest more fair. This is an and tenable unsustainable the situation and it could have regional ramifications. It's already

going to have regional ramifications, I mean you have to imagine. The larger countries surrounding them are all very well aware of this situation and pretty pretty spooked so I mean the military like they began a secret trial on February sixteen for Suu Kyi to further applicator legacy. By the way, I think we should mention she did when the Nobel Peace Prize. Ninety, ninety, what pray, Ruhinga stuff ya know a super interesting as it does some one kind of devolve in this way and inanimate there's two sides to it. All. You know, I'm I'm I'm sure, but yeah the ammunition directly responsible for human rights violations. After being such a proponent, for human rights, or is it more just like by association, I'm a little clearer that aspect of her yeah I saw it goes back to twenty. Seventeen people want into her Nobel Prize to be revoked because

silent about the persecution of the Ruhinga people in the country, she went on to say that she did not believe it was ethnic cleansing. I said there is a climate of fear and that there was a worldwide perception. About global muslim power that was affecting the military's position so yeah? It gets a gets complicated. I, the economist, famously said Her halo has even slipped among foreign human rights. Lobbyists disappointed at or failure to make a clear stand on behalf the Rohingya minority. So it makes you wonder like these, this crime of neglect is this: a crime of resistant, active cry be a better way to say it like? Is she making the laws that allow for this persecution? Well, this the law is definitely not on her side at least the way the military is thinking about it, because imagine this you're, the president of a country,

are you, the leader of a country which say a leader of a political party. Military coup occurs and boom go directly to jail. Do not pass go, do not collect two hundred dollars. This trial is bonkers, so she doesn't get any legal representation. So imagine you wit from be where the most powerful people in the country to having a seat trial. Your lawyer is not told that the trial is started. This trial is believed to take up to a year, but we have no idea like The reason that she is on trial, the crime she's accused of, has nothing to do with human rights violations. It's actually is accused of violating import restrictions because military forces when they went into her compound they found walkie talkies,

she's, also in trouble for heavy right for interacting with a crowd during the pandemic and that's a charge that hadn't been publicly disclosed before We still don't know. If you wanted to be really cynical and machiavelian about it, you could say that maybe the military's just looking for an excuse to keep her jammed up for that year of military rule right now. Army chief senior general men on Flung is he is the active ruler of the country he was born kind of age out or retire this summer, but he's in trench now, there's there's a possibility. Him to become a strong man casual as a network based on what really profitable family business.

And now, if he retires, they might not be able to make as much of a vague, so he's probably staying on for a while, even though he is business tycoon, a senior military official and now the ruler of the country- and there was always a They mean ve seen the stories before where the military intervenes in it. In arab countries, state level affairs, it's always a very dicey situation. It's never wilds, usually not supposed to be permanent. The way it's phrase, but at this point I have to wonder my question funeral is: do you think, there's foreign involvement in this too, do you think, for instance, another regional power broker is aiding the military are like what prompted this

I don't know man a single question. I guess the thing to look for a bee who, how who is benefiting from this unrest like it is. Is it region, Lee destabilizing in a way that benefits any many other government, sir or you know, entities yet that's, that's it. That's a good! That's a good way to look at it. Cui bono benefits. I follow the money right. The money may be drying up as well, because you in some other international players are sanctioning Myanmar's leaders in an attempt to devour them essentially, but it's funny because knee well when I say funny it's it's, it's a terrible situation just to be clear but

One thing I thought was interesting is that the leaders of Myanmar officially warned the world not to call this a coup as one of the first things they said internationally, he said. Look if you are describing this state of emergency to call it a coup, we're doing the right thing, we're doing legal things and Israel add on, and if you use incorrect words to describe the state of emergency that could be seen as an act of instigation, it, could be breaking the law, so be very careful what you say. Luckily, our podcast is not based in Myanmar. At this point you have sort of like the pull. Cool equivalent of calling a water pipe a bomb in store tobacco store and being asked to leave rights right, but leave it to jail, probably get tortured

yeah, I had to say it out loud and don't call it a coup. We ve been here for years right now and shout out to some of my favorite hip hop groups, the coup and, of course, mighty Haiku based here in Atlanta. Neither of whom are to my knowledge involved in overthrowing democratic elected governments, throwing down swede bars, yet absolutely that's where their passion is. But what about China's passion? I mean that's the that's. The spectre right asked over this entire affair, the military has inspired to over through an elected government. China has to know about right. China has been kind of playing both sides, for long time they ve got good relationships with the military hierarchy. They ve got good relationships with the Democratic Party there they're just you know

they're playing the long game and their official statement was pretty interesting if it's Well I'll read: it now share it with you, and then I want to get everybody's take so long when who is the spokesmen for the foreign ministry. China said China, Myanmar are friendly neighbours. We hope that all parties will proper. We handle their differences under the constitution and legal framework to maintain political and social stability. That is a very a way to say not our problem. In my opinion, what do you think transparent they're? Just not they said this. Is this something a problem you will work out in your own house, more or less. The issue here is that when they instituted that one year period, we don't know how far we don't know how far

we'll go with one year. You know what I mean like will it, but what will happen after that? You will there be another election that may be: has results the military, feels are more accurate or also favour them a little bit more. Or will they say the state of emergency continues and for the good of the country for the greater good? We have to continue military rule, it's just so rare for a group that takes power in this way to view. Voluntarily, give it up. You know what I mean: it's it's very dangerous water, the other big regional player in the mix here, the other two big ones are Japan. India? India is the world's largest democracy. Japan also is worried that this shift here this week learn to authoritarian military rule is going to

sway Myanmar away from democratic nations and toward what they call the League of China. This has been something Japan was very frightened about for a long long time, because they didn't want Myanmar to become a ass, a state of China. They thought it would be a danger to the country's prospects for democracy, in Japan were out of their way to be friendly here We mentioned two thousand and eleven. That's where we see democracy come into power the very next year, Japan canceled, a time of mere moors debt and then gave them another loan to help them clear out their debts with the World bank the Asian Development Bank. They were trying to make like a fresh start for the country and at this point

an ongoing story, but it's a story I feel like more people should be aware of, because we're going to hear more about it. I don't know what the predictions will be. I hope that you know the politicians who have been locked up, even if even if some of them were corrupt. I hope that they are chief incarceration and they don't get you a russian style illness or something like that. I hope an accident doesn't occur to them, but this this is unsustainable and because the country is so poor, it doesn't get as much attention as it should. So. At this point, we gotta we're gonna call it a day will be back with more strange news next week want to hear from you who are your favorite prominent. You are enthusiasts and do you have family in Myanmar? Have you visited the country? What is your take if you are lost?

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