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we all want to jinx. Anybody by odds are hopefully will make it to twenty twenty three. As its reckoned in these our current days. We wanted to wish you all our fellow conspiracy realist. I happy politics? You know for many spiritually minded people. This is a tremendously important time. For many more secular people. This is still a very important time in over right to the finish line where it were work wasn't in on the home stretch of the marathon of plots wish. That was twenty twenty two, so today we thought we would, as we get closer to wrapping up. We thought we would explore something. A little different in honour of our guests producer max, maybe a little maid of ridiculous history here. Can steel time from other people. Yes,. I or we target. Are we talking the countless meetings that we have to

but you ha that's it hamburger one with a rabbit or what like wage theft, that's another one, yeah also bullet without one. I think we could also say stealing type whole, who was it worries is womanizer, who also dabbled in physics albert einstein, once famously said, all you need to you can prove time is relative. Consider an hour spent at a meeting verses an hour with a beautiful woman, I'm paraphrasing, but he did say something like that. Yeah this I mean these. The questions. Ok, aside from allocation,

time wage deft meetings that could have been emails? Could you actually take the some piece of the natural spare of a person's time alive? I this sounds like maybe a question for science fiction. Authors very re, bribery, or maybe a quantum physicists but we're going to find. Today. These questions are way older than a lot of people might assume, and they go back to something that I personally I think we all love it on the show, some that seems normal for wraps We know reason here the facts. Talk about calendars. We also accept that right. We do because you grow up, but you know what day it is it's one of the most grounding things for your brain. I know what day it is. Dna the next one it comes after that is. I know what time it is: a lie:

of our exploration today comes directly from our conversations about the moon, when we were looking at the the moon, calendars and how do p all decide what day it is where we are in time mostly over the history time it's been through. Looking up and figure Now where the earth is and where the moon is and where the sun is in relation to other things right, you're, just a really could learn the holiday season. We also have the lovely, and calendar really count down calendar. That gives you a delightful piece of chocolate. Everyday leading up to christmas and barely advent. Cows are becoming quite a thing. Count. Down other things like your dirt, thereby or some other bynum a special day, but yeah exactly ended. It wasn't just any old folks that were looking up into the heavens and saying: oh, the things are moving. Let's call this time and then tracker, you know them the move.

and thereof it was folks dating back as far as the gregorian sense, because they believe hence one of the very first calendars, yeah yeah. Even before then you know the oldest mathematical device in known human history. Are these very clever notched? dicks and they were all about calculating time, calculating the passage of the moon, creating what would become balloon calendar, which so many religious schools of thought used. Today the girl encounter calendar nailed. It is the one that the majority of the world uses its the it's the business calendar of the world, so quite literally, is like so you may, let's say you grow up in hotter or Saudi Arabia right or you you're in

muslim community in thailand, then you probably are going to use the islamic calendar for a lot of but then when it comes to communicating at your job other stuff, like that community internationally using the gregorian counter, and you might be talking to someone who, in their personal life you know, maybe they practice studious and they use a different calendar for four more their personal life This is a civic counterparts, world civic calendar. The way that for quite a while. Now English has been considered the de facto business language of the world, but pretty much every body uses the gregorian counter. Now not because it's perfect, which it's not not because it's convenient, which it's not just because it keeps things uniform,

and we owe all of that. The reason we are saying we recording Friday December knife when eight twenty two is all thanks to a guy named gregg, pope Gregory, the thirteenth he's the due to introduce this way back in in in fifteen. Eighty two, you know I'll bet he's a lease, the guy the said this is It is now no you're right, you're right, no credit where its due to grant team because they were doing the real work. I hate it when people do that so The shut out or fellow conspiracy real is tour lee beer babies because you, our living evidence about how imperfect this calendar is, but still you know not done gonna too hard. We have invented a calendar here on stuff. They don't want. You know yet I still oh you can say despite its words in its wrinkles the gregorian,

under allows us to anticipate and predict events with a fair amount of consistency. I propose down there with a three day, work week vote for me. I propose a post work economy accounts, our track max. I don't, I know you're, not a camera now, but I, I hope, errant fist pump without what's this about bucks based economy, oh This is actually this is, and I the idea it's utopian in concept, the ideas that eventually I will cite about this past. Eventually, human technology could arrive at some point where civilization eliminates the problem of scarcity and really as left wing is it sounds. The some people is objective. We true the resources of the world, as we record, are out of good enough to give the entirety of the eight billion something people on the planet

pretty good quality alive. It's it's all logistics tradition, I dont know, traditions are probably right. We ve been doing they gregorian counter. We ve been going hard on the paint with this as as a planet, not since fifteen. Eighty two, which is part of where our story begins, in a fair verona, but we we're hitting some really interesting here, fifteen eighty two in span of human history not too long ago, so people have always been using the gregorian calendar and that's part of the pickle why? Why did De Gregg wake up one day? I just want to find himself in a mood. Was he mad? It was wednesday or something. No all gregg who loves is it is by the way I hope, one among us. It was trying to fix a problem because the count Where's that were in use at the time were doing some weird things mostly,

they were, they were, moving the actual date. That's supposed to represent certain seasons. Certain times it was moved in further and further away from the actual seasons that were supposed to be represented, because there were extra days air time as humans understood it was drifting. This is nuts. This is crazy incorrect in it's one of those small mistakes that expands ripples right and now all of a sudden, a lot of people who are defining their lives through the passage of time? via these milestones, typically of religious celebrations, their say they're saying hey. This is, a happy was supposed to the equinox is all screwy. Now. Why is this

due to the calendar, they were using. The julian calendar named in a burst of humility after Julius Caesar. back in the days of the roman empire like forty five bc ear. So it's real. If even the roman empire existed, if it really existed or if it was all the rush ignored yeah, he says he he does make a declaration. He does wake up one day and say no. This is what we're doing the math in like him. You know like most rulers, if he took a lot of credit for stuff that wasn't his idea, no dean on the mathematicians and astronomers who helped actually build the thing they were very smart. They were working with what they had, but just like you described Matt, they incorrectly assumed the average solar year. They said three hundred and sixty five

and one fourth days. That's fine here, but I one fourth that one fourth was off for the first century it was clear tat for the first like wild those people were alive, Nate nailed it hold. It was until centuries later people thinking so Caesar made the julian calendar? Vienne edict an edict is the best way to think about it. If you're from the? U S, is it's like an executive order on steroids? Come for. You can kill people if they don't do that edict like up like a proclamation like tat. We shall be so yes just so, That's why, for more than six a hundred years. This was the main calendar.

Roman empire, which was so hot back in the day and then when the roman empire fell, around the fifth century. People still went with it because it was tradition. It was normalized, even if you knew it was imperfect. We after member, there was no concept of something like a global year no concept of something like a greenwich mean time. You know, in fact, the idea of guessing of what the the guessing of what hour it was could vary within as little as ten miles town to town there, weren't, even clocks, that that would function to that level. The facilitation in a we did do ridiculous history about something along these lines about how was the train systems the cause standardization of time between towns, because otherwise they couldn't depend reliably depend on.

Things would arrive or no one to expect things yet, and that was that was a solid episode and indicative of this. This larger problem. So if we, fast forward. Ok, roman empire is done joe Caesar had a heck of a tie while he was walking around, but it didn't end well for him, and now the roman empire is gone and divided, and you know it it. Balkan eyes is basically then what we see is that the new

who, year day, why, whatever you want to call the thing starts to gradually sneak around you know, is moving to and fro its turn to coincide with christian festivals, because there, the dominant religion of that region, at the time right, sorry, Zeus in oh sorry, odin, etc, good hustle and then christmas day for quite a while was the beginning of the new year for many countries so not january. First, that's pagans stuff! That's nonsensical! As far as these folks are concerned, the day Jesus Christ is born is the day you start the year within her mind, which makes sense, but that's only the first problem right. We already got this drift and it's not scientifically based anymore, it's politically and spiritually, based rather than in the day christmas falls on

on this calendar was kind of a remixed pagan holiday anyway, right just so yeah one hundred per cent and then a match. He described his first problem, but that's not the whole. It's not the whole bag here. What's the what's, the second oh yeah, so the second problem is related to. The first problem is what we talked about already, so that calculation of Three hundred and sixty five point. Two five days, there's a leap here: grief for years according to the julian calendar and the act rule number of average days in the soul you solar year, is three and sixty five point two for something something something something, and, as that, is going off. The date of the spring equinox is darting to drift, and it's real important, because that spring equinox date is matched up. We're supposed to be matched up to calculate easter,

and again we're talking about how important this is in the religious power structures. The fact that easter seems to not be occurring on easter anymore is a problem at the whole concept. Time get its drifting and the human system of accounting for the past. did your days is no longer in sync, with the natural passage of time right, the stuff that would happen whether or not humans were around to see it. It reminds me of ok, she gets remember the up. Recent kerfuffle about daylight saving site The recent, as always felt pretty kerfuffle leads me. I think people cover annoyed by. What's the what is there a specific thing that happened recently, it's on the way out I'll, think god, that's that's no last best is I've heard all day. Yeah this year at least in the united states. I think that a more

The senate said daylight. Saving time will be permanent, sally phrase it and twenty twenty three. So there you just don't have to move your clock anymore. But the times own thing is always been better. Your conversation for a lot of people and us for example, a more recent example. The problem with the calendar would be in time zones, especially in the country of China. China is huge, does one timezone, etc issuing a mix of super trippy. If you live out west, could you still have to pretend that its ten a m Know what I mean, what it's? The middle of the night for you, oh yeah, there's a interesting thing that happens with seasons as well. That, I think, is matched up to this. The perception Oh no, you guys feel this. The perception that the seasons are moving ledge or shift. A little bit like it's, it's wind later in

so the year now or its warmer earlier in that kind of thing where it it feels as though that's happening, and it becomes a very difficult thing to grapple with because ear, in my mind, at least I'm thinking about this in the calendar shifts. Third, just the drift that occurs. No matter calendar using and the ito potential effects of of global climate change and like where do those two things me and I wonder if there was ever anything there was happening in the past where climate was maybe shifting a little but at the same time that the calendar was shifting and everybody was just like what daisy yeah where It feels like we're all robin williams, williamson Jumanji, sometimes just bursting out into into the modern world, with

No no way to contrast things from the previous day, so this makes sense like if you were, if you are pope gregg. This makes sense. This is a good idea yeah and the original reform there actually messed with time what greg and his crew did was say. Alright, thursday october fourth fifteen. Eighty two will do that as normal and tomorrow it's going to be Friday october, fifteenth everybody's good with that right and everybody said yeah I mean you're, the pope, don't torture me molly's the people that the pope had influence over right rights, right, catholic country

jews rulers were not in conflict with gregg at the time. That's really good point. So that's the issue. You can't like everything back then he can make these changes overnight. The word about the change travels at the speed of a horse or a ship or someone literally running as fast as they can through the woods may be a messenger crow. That would be cooler than send a raven yeah and what he says is slow process initially catholic countries in europe. They they went aboard with this, of course, because the pope said, and their overseas possessions or territories, also got word out that that was the new calendar, so imagine you're in overseas possession and the fifteen hundreds guy, shows up on a boat and says you know: ok, everybody! It's! What did you think it is wrong? It's too

this day now and so crazy. You would have to be a declaration to whatever entity was in charge of that area. Right, I'm going to go, find the theme rate or the euro hen, our I'm way too much skyrim, say: he'll find the town they pursue run. This town and tell them quietly lesson. I have something from the pope spur important skinny get tricky. I need you to convince all these people said dick day now. Women who you got this right, I gotta go back to the technical and trade, Just like seven or eight more townships, I need you and for rights right then get out of town before someone tries to to burn me at the state? and this is this is the thing so people start calling this the improved calendar and ordered it takes one

three hundred years for protestant and eastern orthodox countries to start moving to this I was not aware this greece, the modern country of greece, was the last country in europe to adopt the gregorian calendar for civil purposes. They didn't do it in Nineteen, twenty three, why it freely Maybe wonder what that switchover was like you just gotta, imagine a lot of people will just be fed up and upset about the concepts like what the heck whose Who was this guy did you ever charge? Who's got They say what day it is I mean. Did we anchor, I think- or at least frustration- oh sure, imagine in the age of a information where everybody seems to be looking for something to have a conflict about it would know if it would it be a war, be calendar

or think your while all the moms, whose kids birthdays fall within those dates that disappeared yeah I seek to an hour so yeah it in same as it ever was right same as it ever was back when this, which happens, will julie into gregorian people over there. Actually, centuries start trying to be as specific as they can. They know not everybody's I'm bored so you'll see when their dating stuff in manuscripts, though use both dates and they'll, call one the old style and won the new style, and it was controversial as more communities adopted it. In fact, according to one popular legend, alot of people saw this as a conspiracy, a papist, possibly anti christ related cabal of people working.

secret. They thought special in seventeen fifty two that the powers that be were literally physically robbing them of time. Taking he's away from their lives just like a vampire sucking blood. I love it. is the implication there is that time is finite, and that it is something that can be robbed as a resource, not three rerouted vienna or described differently. I think we're going to get into all of this and just a bit yes, and perhaps before we do. We should take some time for a word from our sponsors. During the summer of twenty twenty, some americans suspected that the f b I had secretly infiltrated the racial justice demonstrations and you know what they were right: I'm travel agencies and I'm home a new podcast series alphabet, boys

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get crazy. Ok, there was a lot about calendars. I think the three of us, you think it's weird it's weird that everybody accepts it right like how future historians will look back on a necktie and say: why were they do in that not mention like you now fast, any calendar. Is the idea of having a dog wearing a suit. You know something more risque like beef gig calendar with the sex, men just up and fire outfits or whatever it might be? Where did that come from, that's a story for another data calendars as a con? and his physical objects very true and down the way in a more sufficiently developed. So position, people might look at them very oddly, yeah

I mean, and they were looking at them. Oddly, back in the seventeen hundreds, this conspiracy begins in Britain's house of lords and shout out to gas producer max for asking us about a stuff. They don't want. You know beefcake calendar, my in id x is going pretty crazy, so I should be ready or is that a euphemism I'd sleep you're being insane? Ninety yeah I'd say it's an exercise thing of doing. I dunno. If I'm going to keep with it, it's heightened It's me, I thought it was a military spy plane or a euphemism for related. Cyber venus correct, say what everyone else is so so Britain's house of lords, at mucks there they knew there was a problem because they hadn't adopted their gregorian calendar and it had been more than a century

on their side of the english channel, the date was February. Twenty fifth, seventeen fifty, but for the of europe most of the rest of europe. It was already, seventeen fifty one they were streets behind. You know bless. You think, that's a full calendar year that there, behind its just its No, I guess it's just the date, that is to say to be the first of the year right, yes, yeah just so yeah yeah and britain at a bad taste in its mouth mouth, about catholicism in general, silvery thence? If it doesn't really matter what kind of ideas the catholic church may propose, if Britain's leaders knew what was coming from the catholic church, they would be incredibly sceptical from the jump because they were protestant land. They had never seen

allowed greg's idea, and it had been one hundred and sixty nine years on the house of lords. It thanks in large part to a guy named lord chesterfield. They said: okay, let's put this difference aside. You know just for us and we're gonna convert to the new style of calendars and in business? is in in this area, had already been doing that old style, new style thing just so they could work with other businesses like across the channel and in for trade and so on. Ah, but they've faced the same problem old gregg faced they had to get past that this vinci Matt they don't. They had to figure out when the new year was at a figure out which days go where add up, because they were yellow somewhat. arrogant very well to do british dudes. They just decided to pick something go with it. There was no

doesn't chesterfield gather than cigarettes. Basically time, that's eyes Sheffield's fields is certainly like a fancy brand of of of of tobacco product brochure was named after this. This gentleman, his real name, philip dormer, stand, hope what they they call him that they call him the Earl I'm not sure on his his affiliation with tobacco. By as will see, she was also for being really funny back. So wrong is named after a county in Virginia will that carry average

It might have been named after him to greater so so there we go. We got there. So let's go back to this this new year idea. So new year's was occurring on march twenty fifth in in britain at and they would have to make a switch. This would affect all sorts of stuff. You know not just birthdays duchess holidays. This would affect business contracts. This would affect when people pay is it's a domino effect as well, because calendar builds on itself, so they had a lot to consider and after they considered all this skyward chesterfield ease, running point on this bill in the house of lords, and they said here's what we're gonna do we're just gonna skip eleven days, brigadier find seven days euro and we're gonna say those days,

and so they said alright september. Second, seventeen fifty two gonna do that day is normal and the next day is gonna be September. Forty seventeen fifty two right yeah. They make sense, though time morbid you know for posterity efforts. Do the time work for eleven days, so problem is that the house of lords, like any legislative, congressional body, kind of thrives on clicks and debate and disagreement, so the tory party, which way more conservative than do keep in mind folks conservative, for the seventeen dreads. They say this is a terrible idea, they're mad about that new year's thing. You were talking about Matt they they said this is it they were like. Okay, they have valid points. It was going to mess up a lot of stuff for the average person the economy, but there were also

kind of leaning into this sort of war on christmas, like culture or a sort of thing they had these protests and their banner was. This give us our eleven days back. People like that people, like the slogan who had absconded with mine eleven days return them Jimmy post haste forthwith. The whig party, their political opponents, tried to. Tried to have their own pr, their own marketing spin, but it was, it was much less catchy was tat a toothless. I feel, like I'm unbiased, seen us all against it, but it was. He knew tat the two is tat, one who isn't choice of a new generation will you knew coke yeah? I went out super? Well, too, I think people like us, the new style, the true style. It didn't have an exclamation point,

in a. Why that matters to me more political slogans, but give us our eleven days back is sorted. This, like the crowd, goes with you, people shake their fists and they go yeah. Early speaking of a weak and misplaced slogans and if he gets others, but around Atlanta readers had an election there, besides that at first I thought or some sort of smirky nihilist admonition of democracy, and it is said, I could see as an act which can be makes me think, like democracies of fraud, you know it's a phoney, it's an act which then it says early voting begins on bubble. Lie in a democracy. Is an action like no voting, but man Sometimes things can read very poorly if you're, not if you give them the thought there does deserve yeah agree agreed

and this is where this, where we find some crazy stuff going on. As the story goes, many average residents of Britain agreed with the tory party, the mortal delivered a party according to the story, tons of people got together, they form throngs of fear, is mobs and went through a series of riots across england on the night of september. Second, you will not take. Our eleven days in this papist plot papist? Being you know that rude word for catholics that rye the end like catholic conspiracy, theorist, reduce and not to that. The catholic church hasn't been at the heart of a bunch of very real approving conspiracies no question I has have to say I love the idea of time riots if future is so be a great eighties, nineties movie will bring vandam back bring time cut back for the time, rights, daisy

he's got a big sort out those time riders or you know it's brereton- does it we can dimension in all their only publications that we even know about any of this from and according to them, these riots had a lot to do, or at least in some large part had to do with that concept of stealing wages right time equals money. Your tee, my potential wages away from here at year end they felt the government had been compromised that feeling in general is something that a lot of people can agree with in the modern day, regardless of who your government is now unless it, Singapore, so the they said this was either demonic. Anti christian stuff, or at the very least there trying to swindle the working class out of much needed wages. This would be almost two weeks worth of india

and this had heavy implications for daily life. All the festivals, you love, have drifted through time by more than a week saint days as well and hey a personal level. What about your birthday? What about your romantic partners, birthday? Ha, what if her or his birthday was on like September fifth wait. What are you supposed to do But why is this much ado about nothing? We are they really robbing people's wages? Aren't they just be setting things in this kind of standardizing. There's no actual time cut out, as I, like, you, take a pay cut for that gap. Re used the weakest resets I am asking. I I just wondering if you If you work right, an hourly shift or something, and there you know every. hey. You get paid a certain amount if eleven days or wiped off the calendar, that's eleven days worth of wages that you won't make that year.

Right over that yonder year over the calendar year for this gang glenn, reset requires a little snip snap and then it resets, and then you have there nor your back to normal, but it takes a full year, moulded the yet. Because the calendar member is the business cannot at which run and dance like de. Are you paying what kind of payment making on your house, or you know on whatever other things that you oh lenders the trailer, we're livery contracts. Consider being in the agricultural industry right, sir, Let's not consider these things or today does not care because they are in such a bubble and they think about the working class. They dig consider them and they had in a series of band aids that have repercussions that continue to day without getting into the weeds too much one of the big problems they were confronted with justly.

I hope greg was that the majority of the population was functionally illiterate. You know I how possessing the power of literacy, which is an amazing power, was at this time kind of like being able to work with a very specific highfalutin kind of code, a programming language. A lot of people just couldn't do right. They they were not presented with the opportunities. I'm sorry, most people are If you were given the opportunity to acquire literacy, they would. But now it's it's a problem that so neat to the pope, burn seventy years ago so mean to the house of lords? That trying to explain it to the public is already a huge obstacle, so they literate. Many people did as far as we can guess literally think. The guy

permit was physically taking eleven days from their lives, sending them almost two weeks too early to their graves, but eventually the thing about this story. Is it's really light on how those riots pan out, we are left to conclude the order prevailed. The riots were squash, those in our gaze and like bandied solutions and as always working class figured it out for themselves. Sport a few more centuries and boom. everybody's on the same calendar friday December night, two thousand twenty two. If that is those riots ever happened, at all model. No did they re? we dealing with some revisionist history here is this we're in the the realm of lore and legend than actual facts. That's right! This is this is weird I I have to ask. Had you guys ever heard of this story before we started

dig it at a time: riots, yeah yeah, my grandmama used to tell me about it, dwells sitting up her knee at nine times, yes here aqua knees, were made legal again yes? Yes, one time when I was at once began stations. You know I was in the back row. The trucks are There is a flash of light in this huge naked do just like pop that nowhere- and he mentioned something about a time riot and then left. That's all. I remember always alone has revealed. No regular guys used to both gregg was all about working out is the event Pete Idee axis is the the exercise regiment created by pope gregory an end. What else was what else was pope drag response

for real, just feels more approachable, the column gregg. You know what I mean you have Earlier on to this episode slightly bonehead italy drop doze, the gregorian. We're gregorian amongst you, know the chant and they, her followers of April gregg. Just now, This pub greg yeah. They they liked the the first pope greg, but maybe it's because they hadn't heard about greg thirteen. You know what I mean greg: thirteen as oh, I'm thinking of Ben ten, that's different Ok, the laser watcher target control device. There was a time control. Guy too, I think that's ripe they're everywhere, You're everywhere, some so mad. A nude, absolutely ripped guy appears in a flash of light at the truck. Stop the others. A big sir,

cool like there was cut out of asphalt. I see a terminator again a situation, I think so I so you made it outright yeah only only favours where we make my clothes and my son glasses. I mean you get relations. Your clothes This is so silly, I'm sorry guys, but no been I hadn't this enormously? This feels like an extremely obscure thing, because it's not it doesn't pop out in any of the history. books that I remember reading you. That's weird that you say that, because I have heard and seen this story before report it with a lot of sense. The two light whole england so crazy. They had a lotta riots, but did you we're about this one, and you may have heard it, but the the truth of the matter is, as far as we can tell the story of the seventy each

Fifty two riots is more likely that not a work of fiction, or at the very least it's been so crazily embellished over time now on the level of like a lifetime movie. That's quote, inspired by a true story or something you know, one of those pseudo documentaries netflix. I said it. I because it goes down the sources like you pointed out that believe it filling conspiracy realise all of the claims about these rights are based on two sources. One of the well the boy five one of them is a painting and an engraving and the other is she do not a seven teaching hundreds version of mad magazine wait like they play. I gazed equivalent yeah, I gotta get every new it. Now you put it beautifully affair. When you said you said man what's gonna happen future historians, find the onion call yeah like.

I guess I'll, be a paper version of the union or maybe just in an old digital archive somewhere they will be perplexed. What in the hell was going on here is a weird society and a depending you know more and more stuff from the union is becoming true. Just like the simpsons but yeah What's a regular satirical source, so this is true. That makes it even harder to paris because of other seems gonna write based on other day. There we ve covered these eighty. These Michael headlines don't seem a comical. They corroborate employment link from amerika it, so this city wriggle journal called the world was written by none other than nor chesterfield himself. That's right, the same guy who introduced the bill, fancy them

I have a bit of a fabulous diddy fancy himself as a bit of a fabulous. She would later write to his son, and this is this excerpt is often also presented as evidence about the riots, but I think if we do a read of it we can we can see how that's a little off the mark. Every numerous assembly is a mob at the individuals who composure to be what they will. May I sense, is never to be taught to a mob passions, their sentiments, their senses and their seeming interests alone ought to be, Plied too standing have they. Actively none, so the mob doesnt. Very nice, with poisonous up have no understanding their inflamed by I shouldn t be reasoned with he missed and this is not to be talking to a mob. No most listens to reasoner sense,

given the scale, what a mob as every numerous assembly is a mob, really give a number of cut off what doth a mob create and let the individuals who compose it be what they so like. You know that it's a high minded. This point individual opinions and and attitudes known, go out the window join the hive mind. It makes me question like this. Because this is this is something that Lord chesterfield, wrote to his son this not inside the world public on this. Yet this is presented as a secondary. evidence, but really, when I can find is only the idea of a mob mob mentality in general doesn't seem as though he is specifically alluding to some kind of mob riot around.

Seventeen fifty to see after be careful when you see the soft kind of trotted out like a like a quotation that supports the the argument, like take him taking apart out of a bad movie review that makes it seem not that bad should an and displaying anti now out of kindness, so it this guy, wrote a journal, I'm called it the world. Yes, very humble, do Yeah he's always leisurely riding a satirical, magazine, but it's really just as journal. To me, this is more conceptual he's talking about just kind of broad show. what a mob is what a mom mentality as he is referring to anything in particular, unless there's others the rail have that's what I'm saying: psycho mob mentality that could be applied, that's, why me? Why says my mama mentality that can be applied to parliament as easily as it could to the streets of london guys. I think it should be noted, we're looking at Britannica where they

in article titled, did a calendar change cause riots in england in in it there an excerpt from the world days, possibly referring to these time riots. But if you re, it is in the I'd recommend. You do read it because it's kind of if, if we, it allowed to you. It be very hard to pass through. It appears You just mention that people were upset about this change doesn't seem to mention anything about a riot there's a quote that says making no doubt that fire, would be kindled again in smithfield before the concrete. Of the year fires like. is this metaphor: heck metaphorical, yeah, I not very for actual fire. Well that's what I mean a guy like I. I read that and in my mind, immediately goes through they're. Talking about you know, people there right in so doing on fire? But I think we are talking about later the fires of some.

Sentiment being rekindle I have they pulled later in the notes, because it's it's sort of a vague threat before it gets it out and let's, let's talk a little bit about that second piece of evidence, and this is where people got misled. Pretty often there is a painting and an engraving based on a painting called an election entertainment may by guy named William hogarth in seventeen. Fifty five million hogarth very talented is kind of like a new york times cartoonist for his day and is painting is it's been touted as you can find it easily. Just hogarth election, entertainment, H, o g, a r t h, R is painting is often called, is like a depiction of maybe the aftermath of the riots or things leading to the riots. The ideas people are giving depositions are accounts of what went down, but the trouble is

That's not what the painting is about its based on a number of arguments that parliament had one day and they talked about a bunch different issues. One of them happen to be. The calendar and there's no other contemporary evidence that it happened. Thinking. How well documented so much other stuff was in england, did the seventeen hundred compared rising leisure pedantic. They rode down every. So if there never was a riot. How did appear to be extremely niece political, jokes, ellie shook hands things become fact. Some of it is, All in the way these things are interpreted, I like that you mention botanic as well, because up until at least nineteen seventy six, The encyclopaedia Britannica was reporting these rights. As fact, she carefully believe blame people for believing the story. I mean for pete's sake or gregg sake. It shows up in an inside

the media, but that what was their political agenda or purpose and been and proliferating these canada over own claims like on one side of the divide or other lake, yeah. There were riots there. Therefore, the you know the the working class are trash like you know what I'm saying it was there a reason that maybe this was circle They did perhaps by the powers that be too cast add lights. You now the folks who disagreed with them. Yet it's a good question. It seems like maybe some things were just lost in translation over time, because even yale professors were circulating this particularly ronald paulson in nineteen. Ninety three in published a book all about hogarth and kind of captions, this infamous painting by saying that it is about the oxfordshire people. Rioting too

deserve the eleven days the government stole from them by changing the calendar, but regardless no people really were happy, we outlaw and the real reasons they were happy and there are weird threats made on record there like threats of riots, but I would say there severely british stuff, no offense, our friends across the pond or severely posh per day stop this stuff, like that you have mentioned earlier. Matt fires would be kindled, beginning smith yield. That is a reference a london market space that was known for being here for being the scene of a popular uprising in the evil era. So there they were. There were definitely tories who were lake from reddening that something something bad was gonna happen. Maybe they would assembles unfold.

But it didn't, really seems to happen, people blame the jewish community, they blame the catholic church and they did not try to overthrow the government It asked me: wouldn't there be more evidence if those riots really happened? Yeah, yes, they're worth I I'm tempted to say so too. I mean this is what we see three conspiracies of play: the first one, the lovable accidental conspiracy, the best of intentions, people corroborate his story, turning myth into act. Second, I would argue moving the calendars for sure conspiracy, pope gregg, like we pointed out, he didn't take some public poll in tally. The results he didn't say what days are good for you to lose rights, yeah yeahs, where they pay him. The big bucks gotta make the hard cause. If we could backed by trying to that little bit what what? What what was his ultimate game here or the gain of of

of that I am in his cronies, gregg or chechnya- didn't for this all like calendar surgery, it makes religious occasions and events in catholicism gibe with where there's it has to be seasonally like mad, makes them more withdrawn and makes them like sign posts and much more markers of time like he needs to be in spring. Like cap pointed out right and easter again be a big deal. Oh yeah, easter is a huge deal. Does isn't it weird to think that we still call it ocd? toper oct toper edgeways molly, it had now wait. Wizened the eight month, at november, the nice month guile. What about thursday December is the tenth month You totally re an area that we get its nor thought about that at all

How come the united states is still the only place in the world that did that visas. The imperial system of in namibia. Ok what we're one up, but it's it's, the speaking of standardizing. Does he magazine that we give to many routes about here in the states? Dough? in this, is that it's a weird game to try to get people on the same page about anything, and I would say honestly, maybe there's a good spot end as we're all going toward the this year, right, which either isn't gonna happen to march may, have, they happened. As your hearing this, maybe on the way you know any debate, and which calendar you bursley follow the counter itself. The human counter is kind of a conspiracy. It's one everyone participating are you now max in the chat proposed day stuff that it wants to know beef, kate calendar? Yes, my lord This year you did, I propose we taken further and just in

at an entirely new calendar and pitch it. You know to the powers that be they will probably improve this difference. Two audio thing dia and pictures of meat, pies various meet pies! Guess what I meant by saying that, while the I certainly have some feedback to the revolutionaries in france who tried their own calendar. I think they are cut themselves off at the neck there maybe, but their yeah there's deftly improvements to be made in in the wake of civic counters. Now you don't want to mess with religious counters at all. That's as all other bag of badgers, but I bet we could do a good civic calendar because again it's just a conspiracy. It's just humans. Being great pattern, recognises putting this sort of anthro centric aim of reference around a series of processes on earth in the heavens

began long before human wherever here and will continue long after they are gone, and we do. We do have been out examples of different types of calendars, though we like in the chair These calendar different doesn't rely on like the lunar cycles. More than. Our gregorian college, I, like lunar new year. yeah. I want a whole calendars were based on the moon check out the suit. A similar messing with me, I yeah, and that goes with it. His calendars, many of which are still in use today, and also you related conversation in different horoscopes or zodiac systems of the world which fine endlessly fascinate modern day china does use the gregorian gown or like us yet again for bringing up business purposes, but there religious holidays, like chinese new year and then lantern festival and all that is governed by the chinese counter, which is a lunar solar. So the

depended on both the sun and the moon. I, but every day you wanted to be, you know for yourself go out there, make it make it that day in order me make it make it that year we believe in you, you could do it. We ve got more weird stuff, come in before the again. I argue relatively arbitrary end of this calendar year. We hope that we hope the you having a great one, and we can't wait, I hear your take. Have you invented your own calendar love to love to hear it? Also? I don't know you all saw, my evening, a little old humorous harry said: does aid another batch. Of pines yeah. I am living arguing rising, I know now. Now I know what you're gonna save on the upper save it. I'm saving them to. Let you know like rocky here picture show taught us it's all about anticipate and his wife

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