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from you at those two psychic powers and government conspiracies history is riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or learn this stuff. They don't want you to know a production of, I hope hello, welcome back to the show, my name is meant, my name is no, they call me Ben. We are joined as always, but our super producer, all mission control deck and, most importantly, or you you are here, and that makes this stuff I don't want you to know today. Episode starts off with something it's understandably, a problem for many people strange noises, but we dont mean smacking snoring this of styrofoam are all those other demons of Macedonia. Don't coins have a heavy breathing guys

accuse me online of heavy breathing a lot, and I really made me self conscious. The boy where I lean away from the microphone really are too thanks a lot internet. So weird, we're talking about something, much less annoying overtook them something much more mysterious or so. Some would have us believe. Law time. Listers. Fellow conspiracy, realist, you ve been with us as we speak, the story of the winds or hum which, by the way, will be solved in this episode, as well as story of the infamous loop, but this mysterious noise occurs in the far north in an isolated part of the world home to more animals than people. The look population is apparently being haunted by a bizarre. Well, some would describe it as a hum. Some wood dust rob it as a beep. Today, it's best known as the noon, a boot ping here or the fact

so. First of us, too little geography, Nunavut, is in Canada right, but where its north really north about far north as you can possibly via the area encompasses most of the canadian Arctic Archipelago and This is polar bear country, none of it Is the largest and northernmost territory Canada and the fifth largest administrate division in the entire world. In fact, none of it loan represents about twenty one percent of the entire area of Canada, which is this in considering how few people actually live there. It's really strange to look at on something like Google Earth were another digital based globe, just to see essentially that ring the arctic ring around the north pole. There did you write up at the top aw airy. We're talking about here are none of it. So little

over two million kilometers in total area around eight hundred thousand square miles a little more than that in a court the latest numbers it has a total population of around thirty six thousand people yet this one. This will give gave me a weird rabbit old Matt I in the populations, thirty five thousand nine hundred and forty four as the twenty sixteen senses and That numbers still seems to hold about the same in twenty nineteen, so I was for a an easy comparison. You know, what's may be more well known city. Or town that has a comparable population. So started. Looking adds cities in the U S they have a population, maybe around there. I couldn't find it. So I start

looking at smaller and smaller and smaller places, and I stumbled on the closest comparison I confide, which is goose, Creek City, South Carolina with a population of thirty five thousand nine hundred and thirty eight, so residents of good Greek city shout out to you. Yeah sure shout to mount Pleasant and Bulls Bay as well, which are right right down the street from you But most likely do about a city. Dude, I'm all about some goose creatures from here you can you gotta get in five, but had on up that way. The EU can help. East right over the goose creek waitin on a Sunday, I'm just looking at a map. Ok, ok I would have loved the idea that having lag long lost family in Goose, Craig that he's just now like discovering on the air in real time. Yes, as those said, please tell us your goose. Reach cities stories on

the residents of Goose Creek City, the residents of this territory. Overwhelmingly anyway about eighty five percent of the population, this territory these also credibly knew it was officially. Created in eighteen, nineteen, ninety nine before that it was part of the pre existing north West territories. Now, if you want to go encounter. The great outdoors in this part of the world. Your goal, We need to prepare. This is not an especially welcoming environments. Aids most he composed of rocky tree, Tundra, that's locked in permafrost. The art as we know, is experiencing climate change, specifically, warming of the climate at a faster rate than a lot of other parts, world, and this also affects Nunavut change is there include higher temperatures which melts the permafrost which reduced

the ice in the sea which causes glaciers to diminish in retreat, and diminishes the eye. Shelves with tail was all this time. We all know this pattern, but it's also home to a mystery, and that's our question today. Have you heard of the Newt Ping Another thing to point out here just how difficult it is to get to noon of four A lot of other places are merely anywhere else in the world. Considering where it is on the earth and how cold it is, how much ice you're dealing with and the lack of standard transportation or very little state or transportation actually, without looking up research and for never said. I came across a youtube, or rather of Bolivia Young who, along with her husband at the time of the video, is which Isn t Eighteen, oh just moved to a collar which is the capital city of Nineveh, and two very helpful videos, one of which was ten reasons. You should move to a collar and ten reason

you should not move to a call it now that she was trying to force anybody one way or the other. But the reasons you should where things like we're talking about the gorgeous natural scenery, ten, be camping opportunities in just kind of the adventure of it all the reasons you shouldn't parallel cost of living is is one of the highest in all of Canada there largely because it is so remote. There are very many chain thing, so there's carbon happily on me now, goods and services on on this survey remote hard to get they, since you say a yesterday, the canadian bucks, but it was like eighteen hundred dollars for a flight like a three hour flight from call it too, I believe, and a toe Beverly for their? I can't remember where they would go home to hang with their folks, but Early very, very prohibitively expensive to fly out of there. I not many flights go there, so it's kind of a monopoly there to also commented on the internet being particularly slow, but then we pointed out that they they seem to a fixed that

again. This is something that this kind of inaccessibility is something that's very familiar to people we live in areas of the world like this, but perhaps so strange to people not acquainted with these environments. You know, there's a reason, for instance, that department stores in Alaska. Tend to do a little bit better than department stores in the rest of the contiguous, United States. That's because some please use just to deliver. You know you, order something odd lying if it means that someone from Amazon or something has to fly out on a small session playing to get you, grew, dunk, ruse or whatever you would really be beaten by imagining Hungary's I've gotta be us is just seeking to that shout out to the whoever is working at and running the Hall Beach Airport. That's out there near by it.

It's one of the only ones that I was able to find new. That was big enough to actually land, like you said, assess narrow something will an apparently there's no specialty medical facilities. Their doctors actually come in on a weekly basis that the woman I ll talk about, who had the Youtube video was present at the time, and was hanging out to see a specialist. She had done until that individual is actually make em around, which would require flyin and a little play like you talkin about and also The reason she said if you dont want to move here, is if you dont like online shopping, because that sort of mainly wearing find most of your options does is really no change department, stores or malls or Walmart, or anything like that to speak of so, as you can tell from there, a high level look life here is very different, Then life in many other parts of the world. None of us.

Home to a stunning enrich history of indigenous culture, tradition and practices ripe, including hunting, which plays a big role in today, show. This area is also home to a mystery- is one that a lot of people outside of the region have not heard of. Have you heard of the noon? A vote ping? Here's where it gets crazy because you see this, area of the world is home to more than breathtaking natural beauty and astonishing ancient culture its also do something that is most often, I should say, allegedly home to something that is most often called a ping like ping. Like the sound of submarine, makes room? Maybe it is interesting has been described a bunch of different ways. Actually, sometimes it is that ping like we just given It will have sometimes is, moreover,

sometimes it's a sound that you can't unless your recording, sometimes it's a beep, morbid like the ones that we make on the show when we need record, something again the yellow behind the scenes ass by the scenes of earth. It doesn't make a final at a control where's Michael Winslow, when you need them. I wish we had him as a guest right now. He could do all of these sounds perfectly for us, but I think a great job of ethics. So What would you need to know that there is a specific area within this larger area that we ve been describing to you it's it's called the fury and Heckler Street of noon, a vote. It about a hundred twenty kilometers or seventy four miles from the small town of glowing. Yeah. You you're we're talking earth I fear that you said that this is the This is kind of, though the closest point of human civilization, how he kin weaker, related

it's the fury and hecklers straw. It is sort of north west of this town, correct, correct yeah and its its large. It's very open, many times in the past. I yes more frequently in the past. They would be ice floating in this area. Not so much anymore, as you stated earlier, but yet through the this ping was First, we could say solidly confirmed by a sailboat that was travelling through the straight back in the summer of twenty. Sixteen and the reason we can say with solidly confirmed is because the crew of the boat and passage longbow were able to register the sound with onboard sooner equipment. They were looking for anything had the sooner equipment for the boat, rumours had existed before this official, confirmation and no to your earlier point that this is not the same thing as

recording the sound, a registered it. They prove that it existed, but they didn't have an audio file. They could play for other people, the this street itself there's word of the day. I don't know about you all, but this I learned this word for the first time, this straight is what is called a pollyanna. It's it's an area of open water, that surrounded by ice and this a cosy, cosy, perfect all for times, of sea mammals. This out itself, the ping or the hum of the bay can be heard. Throughout the summer that that that's a big deal gather. We go that's a big deal because summer is one of the major hunting seasons in this region, because there is a typically his Fourthly, there is a large number of sea mammals that pass through this area. So since ancient days when people living there are, they would harm

these animals can use components of these animals throughout the rest of the. For a multitude of things, and if I may, again, you can find nor walls in this region, the mythical yet perfectly right. Norway there. I guess there arctic circle types nor wall. You know that they have quite yet franchise to the Caribbean, but hey the world's a change in place. Who knows maybe you'll see a tropical Norwalk draws a picture of what that look. Like send it in conspiracy. It I hurt radio dot com prelatist, wherein lay in and has like a tropical drink. Some Gunnar was early, have hands, though There is, it has leaked pineapples instead speared on the other, which is actually actually example. After nor will I saw where'd, it is but the pain is even weirder that an hour wall I would say, because the sound can be heard throughout the summer. Multiple people allegedly report. It notice we

drop. The allegedly are there you'll find a wide a minute, the booters newer aboard that I that vessel passing through the area. They said that they have the sound they registered on sooner. They didn't have an audio recording, but they went to local radio show in a glowing afterwards, and they described. Their experience hearing the sound and windy described it. Multiple people call into the radio station to say. Hey I've heard this too. What gives just a quick thing to think about here this It occurred in twenty sixteen so I shall we We can't know for sure, but I assume that somebody on that private, both those travelling through the straight had some kind of cellular device that had recording, gave abilities on it, and it does made me wonder why, if they were here something is strange as this sounds, they wouldn't begin rolling similar to

if there is a UFO citing or something you'd, want to at least attempt to capture it It's a good way member, I think. Maybe we take for granted sometimes how how quick we are to pull out stuff like that and record interesting, sounds or videos some people, this don't think about it. I think it's like good natured, ass, I think, since we're sort a techie, nerd types, but I don't know it could go either way. It is a little weird, but I also know people the just. Never really them. Unless it's like snap in a picture till I pull up the voice. Memo recorder is almost like too many layers of men you for some people on a phone. I want to go back, what you said that and I want to respond to you by saying Ding, Ding Ding or, should I say, pimping paying, because those is going to be important leader in

this story right, and I think your point holds know that it is not normal or it's not. You know who bit what is for everybody to instantly take out a phone as a matter of fact, many of us listen to long to date, when we have seen something anomalous traps in the sky or in the distance. We can be a real pain to try to get to your camera on your phone or your audio recorder in time. Unless, you ve made it a habit and normalized it. So we withdrew Point Matt, would say one thing: the altars, oh, I wish you one thing that influences the points were making here is that these people were on a boat. They likely already had recording equipment or communications equipment of some sort running and we d without knowing how long their window of time was hearing the ping. We don't know how much time they had to respond, but it is interesting that was not a recorded sound there. This acoustic anomaly

is an important part about it. It wasn't just affecting humans and hunters, locals had noticed that animals appear to hear this sound as well, and they responded to it by two. In Taylor turning thing or turning flipper and scare dazzling whatever the sound was. It seemed to frighten them. At least according to initial reports, there were hardly sea mammals in the area during the summer of twenty fifteen, and that became- an issue of major concern to local government: yes, actually sense. When we're talking to Tourism and even like just locals, hunting is huge, so of your animals are constantly getting spooked away by the sound. That's not gonna go over well the locals or with you now, tourism and the government who are maybe figures is, is gonna like make it

attractive for people to come here and India now see visa these natural phenomena and then perhaps be now shoot them. Yes and too and we have a statement from a legislative assembly, men from the area named, George quote, he said, quote that stage is a migratory route for both had whales and also bearded seals and ring seals there would so many in that particular area. This sum there- was none which is amazing, because usually these kind of declines, step down incrementally overtime, and overseas. Is anomalous for and tyre migratory, population to change too disappearing change route, so locals and visitors. Wins in animals alike. All seemed to know that something was happening.

But no one knew what, unless of course, we asked the animals which no one really did This means in the lack of certitude specula Sean thrives theories about. What are we talking about will tell you, after were from our sponsor. Did you know? Guy goes now offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car and motorcycle policies. That's fifteen percent! On top of what Geico could already save you. So what are you waiting for your dentist to actually believe and your flashing everyday, absolutely great, you're coming down in her sweet. Of course wonderful. Then I don't even look in their great z. In six months, there has never been a better time to switch to Gaga save an extra fifteen percent when you switch by October seventh limitations applied as it Geico DE comforted.

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just coming back to that initial report that can improve this worry back in twenty, sixteen of the private boat in the people on board that went through and heard this paying with their sonar equipment. They stay at least stated they were able, to discern the sound appeared be originating from the sea floor from below them we down at the bottom and- Just keep that in mind as we're continuing down through these theories about what this sound could possibly be, and we have a. We have a couple of broad categories of theories, with with very I would say, differing levels of plausibility right, so because our maybe yes geyser into this, we can start with the very mundane one.

And the reason why it's very mundane and then we can move progressively to some more conspiratorial stuff. The first theory centres on an outfit called the bath Inland Iron minds corporation they, earlier conducted stone surveys on a your by endless stiens by end with this theory add corporation, in the mining industry could be responsible for for the sound dies. Some sand, but now because of the mining corporation itself. Here its increasingly, possible because of re. Revelations about the winds were hum, which we explored in Peru We as episode, Rarely get to see this. This one has been proven. We can put this one to bed, probably In the previous episode on the winds were hum, we examined this mysterious sound on the Canadian. U S border since about

two thousand and eleven people who, Sir and Terrio and the area were forty a weird weird hum. Nobody knew what it was. Some people are saying seek government plans you s, owes you Ufos extra dimensional stuff, although all the exciting stuff, all the hits all the Jas, but just a few days before we were did this episode in the announcement news came on July. Twenty seventh we're recording this on July twenty night, one of our fears these four winds were Hum was proving correct where steel facility on Zog Island went in, idle mode as the company scaled back operations across its great lakes facilities and, according to a guy named We know that could we may have cited in that episode. He's the lead researcher for the canadian study into the hum, according to him as soon as that, Zog Island facility went quiet. The hum vanished, so

no way lions earlier. Maybe the aliens we're working at the factory- I don't know yet it's it's crazy, really know we're talking today about a ping member referred to this one, and it is a kind of known and popular culture, yes, as a home, but I mean residence for describing it as like. Almost a sub you now saw. Base kind of rumble, though, would actually like vibrate pictures off the wall on and make some people sick Kane in this whole episode about about that plant. They were talking about, I think, they determine that it was caused by like a process of venting pressure from of the equipment that that was very, very, very loud and actually carried all the way. To the residents of of Windsor pretty cool. Well, that's that's weird that weaken comments, that, due to you today, I felt like a mystery. There was going to be around for a while, but now it's gone you guys do it or our success rate is

If you look at the view to find success as in solving these things, our success rate is pretty abysmal by blights, this alone. This kind of theory does not solve the case of the universe ping, because there are some problems with this explanation that's correct the Baffin Iron Minds corporation, so they ended up Speaking with canadian media, essential. They said, yes, they do have a mine on the Merry River, which is south west of pond. In let another inlet in the area they had not been, conducting any surveys of the sonar type in the area where the paying had been observed, and they didn't, they didn't even have any equipment in the water, especially at the bottom of the sea there. Or of the straight. I guess So it does feel as though, at least if they are telling the truth that that this may not be the explanation.

And if you don't want to just trust the company's words you can look to the local politicians who have also verified that there weren't any official permits there were issued for this company for construction or for other. Work like blasting hydrography, which is it on term as well and there was no. There was no official permits for work. That would explain those sounds originating from that company, but but in your trusting politicians, then hurried so near, but still in either case. Back to the conspiracy drawing board on this when there's a a another. Theory, those pretty popular in the local population. That reminded me in a wave alligator. Well it's navigation, Vigo, terrorism, kind of It reminds me of Lake Captain Planet kind of fights. So what

the pain is coming not from a mining corporation but from those the various near dwells over Greenpeace operates what? If what, if peace is the culprit. Here, people we believe this. The motivation of this organisation is too, use the paying or some kind of sooner device to gear wildlife away from the hunting grounds during this peak hunting season. This theory does not come from thin air likely that someone just made it up to troll people Greenpeace and the local population have had tense exchanges in the past, and that was largely due to Greenpeace's historical opposition. To seal hunting in the nineteen, seventeen and nineteen eighties so decades ago, there's still probably some bad blood or, at the very least, distrust. So

question here, is wooden environmental group like Greenpeace purposefully disrupt? What's going on with the natural behaviors of a large group of animals in some roundabout way to save them, if we want the things it feels like. Ok, I guess in a doctor, evil style, Greenpeace Maneuver, but a devilish feet, definitely feels off to me like that, wouldn't be it wouldn't be, good idea because you're you change the patterns of those animals where they live, where they hunt where they feed. Year, you're going to cause some disastrous effects, probably yeah. First to your point, circuitous. There is a room were aghast, and secondly, it seems like a spoke example of a situation where someone is choosing the lesser evil it feels like it would be a non anomalous for green peace to take that kind of, of course, of action

that doesn't mean a star, true adjust. It seems weird, it seems out of character, grew peace, dinner, Is this accusation the same way that the mining corporation denied the accusation? In fact, spokesperson for greenpeace- fair. A said quote not only would we not do anything to harm marine life, but we very much respect the right of any wit to hunt and would definitely not wonder when pact that in any way this is important, because it means not only does Greenpeace not want to mess with the animals there also saying they don't want to with any went hunting traditions. So there argument render it if true renders the whole conspiratorial concept moot because they're saying first, we didn't do that and say and if there was something we could do to disrupt this hunting season, we wouldn't would anyway, because we think it's an important cultural practice,

their basically saying you know it's did not our battle, not our hill, to die out additionally it to your point that if you, if you don't believe Greenpeace any more than you, would believe mining corporations, we can note that government Visuals note No one has seen a craft of any sort capable of like carry in dropping sooner through the area were putting anything into the water. You would function as installer device capable of creating this sound, etc. And that all means boom back to the consumer she drawing board. We go, and this brings us to a third theory. Would you which always is gonna wanna? Call it fine, but it's it's it's fascinating and I think We might differ or our opinions are the plausibility here guys, because I I'm a little more pro conspiracy. On this theory in particular. Wait wait banner are you talking about

submarines, not just sandwiches Matt. We didn't does it not long ago on submarines, older submarines and the text that was available, you know back there, The cold war days was so advanced. You can only imagine that there might be something lurking out there in the waters that nobody can detect yeah. That's him ever so we talked about how there is no question that sonar really Jack's with marine animals, especially whales and dolphins, mean so many of them use their own for of sonar to communicate, and this absolutely can throw a real ranch in that in that system, and I mean the whole point of many of these submarines is to swim under the radar so if there were more advanced versions of these things, we probably wouldn't know about it. Whether domestic or foreign,

so to your point, mad who's, to say that some newer version of this technology doesn't exist that either sounds different or acts a little different, but still clearly now disrupts marine life The canadian military is ruled out the presence of both domestic and foreign subs in the area, at least that's Would this what they're saying in their official statements of the public, but no sir. Accurate that might be, I would just say remember where we are in the world right at the northern top of Canada and I would say just across the Dick Ocean, it is a pretty vast distance from- that area to Russia. But if you're thinking about the cold war mindset which I'm not going to say, is gone from. Governments on either side of that original conflict, its evolves. Certainly

But if you think about it in that way, then there might be a strategic Jack reason to be floating around in the waters there save it receive. Why haven't as everyone will your back to this, but I completely agree with you that please These spoiler are, but let's say just one say of men a time arguments we say: ok as it may be, that around two percent it will back, half heartedly with caveats conspiracy, drawing board is DJ, collared would say another one. You see, there is a fourth theory. Conspiracy, real it- proposes that the sounds were being admitted by essentially a science project in the Arctic, funded, not by cannon, but by the United States, specifically by the office. Of naval research in

U S. This is called the Canada Basin Acoustic propagate an experiment or biology, canopy Zion capacity. Do you think DJ call? It has anything to do with us. Do you think this is? Why hasn't release and a new material, and so long he has been working on this then get, as is I mean ass if, he J Collared has released his old material another one, another, burn against arise, ease being great to us here friend of the show. Actually I I love you of contracts, guilty pleasure I wish you are you? Are you always yet? You always know you always know it's him. It reminds me of those like those mix are those do you know when you buy a beat on the internet and you don't pay the full price you get the sample. Occasionally, the background will be like, like

six hours, twenty nor I too, and then you know and you I that goes away. It's like an audio watermark. That's what dj collar does he's like human audio, watermark, well, yeah and he certainly experiments with sounds right. Oh Jesus, Roger was going. This deserves this new material, canopy It also a delightful French save a dish, a canopy. I think it's kind of like a crap sure it is I have no idea. I've heard over the term, but by this this call the Canada Basin, acoustic, propagation experiment or Canada. It's really interesting uses low frequency sounds too and figure out of the ongoing changes that are occurring in that general area. With regret, the Sea ice and how the hell,

changes served, you as your having less or more ice in an area, how does that affect acoustics? so that sounds really interesting and their thinking this project could produce some data for use in tracking submarines way they're in the Arctic were just far north in general, like we're talking about, are some making a comeback already another one The dust, but we have an expert, that's right. We have an expert by the name of Peter either word gesture or Worcester. Yes, spinning I, which part of the country You come from or if your English, but he is a member of the scripts institution of oceanography at the. U City of California, and he said that these sound being generated by canopy

by the way, is a small moves, Bush that you might see on a tray carried by a waiter at a party with little little things on it like most smoked salmon. Perhaps, but it's also, this thing sound emitted by cannot pay. The sounds rather are very low and too far to be heard in the fury and heckling straight Kay so this is ruling this out for it for the for the ping. No, it does make sense. The project is, August on low frequency, sounds right and we're talking about a very high, pitched or high frequency, sound, so yeah One of the issues to which worser brings up is the problem of time. Right, an and distance saw this Spearmint the sat and to be responsible for the new ping. These experiments would have travel very well, a pretty long way, and they would still have

be distinct from the ambient background noise right there, that's gonna, occur eyes, still worse, outlines you know how quickly this would dissipate in the background noise and instead he proposes a another culprit. Returning culprit that some of us may recognize from our earlier episode on the blue, and he says it could be arctic ice. That could be the Kaiser Susie here I any notes, much of the acoustic noise in the Arctic is caused by ice, rubbing together and cracking sliding again. Itself in moving and favorite fact about today's episode is that this is a known fact that sound came back to the days of early arctic explorers while having coffee at that early european Arctic explores the new about these sounds. They were so common that arctic explorers in this in that age hold me,

noise is the devil's symphony. How cool and the descriptions ranged kind of the same the stream sounds. We hear the Nunavut Ping being described as they were. There would say there was a buzz may kind of our really low come in also said wheezing allowed bangs. There think, there's a universe we yet, but that would really creep me out. He imagined, PETE paid out in the far north and then you here, the sort of sounds pretty cool, actually like some kind of experimental music. What, if you soon the devil's symphony, whilst smoking, the devil's lettuce, bad combination, properly, so or maybe great, who knows, but yet that been that right. There is the best fact of this whole thing, and you right now can go on Youtube and other places and hear sounds of ice in both the

chicken and arctic and just. The incredible range of tones and frequencies that you can get out of ice interact with itself and other chunks of ice I can only imagine a man, you know cracks either This is like a madam. You figure like the war of the ocean, how far it extends means. So many of these bodies of ice are just take up just as much that justice. But are very, very been a wide ranging and for a cracks to be spreading. All the same time slowly and Love you slow, creaking crack sounds like that. Really does sound pretty haunting two thousand two hundred and twenty two consider. Especially if they were making like sympathetic tones and causing these kind of weird vibration sounds and, as reports of this ping grew peered to grow the canadian government, including the members of the legislature that we mentioned earlier, eventual

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we're back and the government has become involved, the canadian government. What did you do well in November of twenty sixteen they conducted several searches of the area using sound equipment essentially the military went through there and they were unable to determine what was causing. What were these quote a coup anomalies were now believe. Flew over The ocean with multi censor the announced scans, essentially trying to find the origin. I couldn't do it yet, but it was a. It was a large jet, corrupt, in re. I'm confirms about that to like that, make so much noise in and of itself like now there were acoustic specialists are anything but a little weird. You think they do it with a boat with the mode turned off or something you know aim like it does

It is, though, if you are getting your initial reports from you, know a boat or a ship travelling through that street, he would also in kind send some kind of vessel through there with equipment sooner acoustic or otherwise, just to test to see, if you could repeat it rather than sending a plain over, but then maybe that's just my ear, are these magnetometer we do have. We do have to keep in mind, however, that the relative inaccessibility of this area and the size plays a role knowing something there are thinking something originates from the sea floor. Does it get you out of that needle in a haystack situation. It just points you to lake A rough area of the Hague Euro Ages moves the haystack to the sea floor. As all of US

a boy and in twenty seventeen team they decided to level they did find something in their search, which doesn't really surprised they found two parts of Wales and six walruses so that completely in the empty handed, but in twenty seventeen away way. One point, though, about the walruses what I love about the way this is presented wouldn't read about it is that it total of six walruses, so I loved it there. Sounds like their consistently discovering a walrus and a key some going so Maybe my crazy conspiracy about this is a seventh walrus. They just turned To sue, I couldn't agreement or better- but you know they didn't let this damp in there it's too much and twenty seventeen, the army had plans to send two acoustic specialists to egg lick. To learn more about the paying and just kind of light. Pull the locals ask around like see who had heard what they thought it sounded like seems.

Smart move. There upsetting just wine. Instead, a guy named Doug Brown, normal Brown was a igloo for a total of nine days in January of that year. Twenty seventeen years- that here he accomplished while he was there well. The first thing that he didn't accomplish was recording anything as horrors. Audio goes of. Straight or the water, or any pings whatsoever, and the according to them and according to the work that Dog Railways Commission to do the military that empty, do record the sounds, and they were unable to do so, They sent him there with a very different mission. He was stead, interviewing residents and goals as well. Officials and attempt- just get as much information as he could about what they had heard

sending an acoustic specialists without like a field recorders, sort of like sending a photographer without a camera. That's a little weird debts, Firstly, what it sounds like me. It's true, I me on and off he brought that stuff or or what or just decided to leave it in his bag. But in that nine days, Fanny was there. He didn't make a single recordings that he just talk to folks try to get their perspective, didn't you, It would necessarily take an acoustic specialists to do that, but Far be it from me to question the The judgment of the canadian government he did play sound examples for the locals. It is a sound like this. Here's absurd sonar, paying no inquiry little more of a few minutes, that's maybe the response, but but who knows because he d, I'm one of your accorded the interviews. That's a good question. And he asked if anybody knew who had heard the sound. They.

Said no that nobody in their community organization, her in any of the pinging sounds. He also noted that People he spoke within. The community were much less concerned about what the media called the mystery of the ping instead They were intensely concerned about the law. Lack of migration of the north wall in the walrus and other marine animals up to the fore. Hurry and Heckler street. He moves you know we he did his best to say we There may be a reason why I and you want to dance for their question in their veto, address their concern, so he told them, that the lack of animals may be due to the environmental issues that have been hurrying and escalating in the north over the past few years, and he said

these issues may have led to the animals just not migrating as far as they once did. So the animals are still around right there. Just not at the same historical range and then you got a lot of help from rangers who are based in town and speak the low, dialect, because not ever especially older members in the community. I don't just speak that dialect, and so, He went to that local radio station he had one of the Rangers put out a message trends. Aid from from English, to this language and said: hey hate we want to hear from you. Have you heard this ping? Have you experienced it. Do you have a recording? Let us know, and no body answered for one reason or another, nobody answer, but I wanna go back here. Their interesting things about Doug Brow

bones investigation, he said, there's no viable reason to put so nor in the area so he rejects the sonar claimed. He says the curve is too strong is too much in background noise? Even if you wanted to do it, you wouldn't get workable results. You know it so I mean you know we have what we ve seen plenty of examples of the media, maybe rolling with a story before confirming all the details, because it sounded cool there is a way to kind of sex up something. Maybe there isn't confirmed evidence for not to say there you things about a whole cloth, but we finally seen this in our research time and time again. So could the hang possibly have just been a rumour they got, the hand. I mean it to me that the biggest report that that we heard of in this case is those folks on the boat from it for the show that didn't corded on their cell phone, knowing that we had names

So I certainly sounds like that's possible and then it could. Potentially kind of. Let's escalated based on something that we all know. Well, the idea of fear the idea of being concerned about self preservation and in some it's out of your control too. Maybe explain it away or to the very He's Tino assign something to blame would be the changes in my Tori Routes, this notion that these sea creatures see man. If that were so commonly seen in there in that particular area were gone this year, but we also know that there are other things that can lead to changes in migratory roots. Right go we'll go back to a second interesting point about dog Browns investigation. They speaks, they think speaks for itself. MT? I there's an interview you can read with vice and EU excellent work, especially through motherboard

Brown says you don't eat, was down. He says I never spoke to a single person who said that. He had any faith and the reality of this ping. Much less said they had heard it themselves and in fact, when he's, with members of the legislative assembly he asked them Nero, the day. One question you would ask in this situation he said why does it seem like so many papers? Initially, report hearing this noise and alleged slate of members said that was equal, misunderstanding of the media, no one in the community. As far as this assembly person, New had actually heard the pink this is odd, because it wasn't just one paper reporting, These eye witnesses accounts with this. The army thus considered the case closed now it leaves us with several possibilities.

One is one is the idea that you brought up a second ago nor the change of migratory patterns at something people can't We fight immediately right that that stuff has to change. Over time it's like a train. It takes a while It started and it takes a while to stop, but as we were as we're talking about earlier before the break Matt, let's go back to the past we'll submarines cover up idea so Doug Brown after he was sent to the area. The government considered the case closed and they pretty much shut down the store any further investigation. Any official comment, nay, were basically saying they want none of it. Our report is why I, fellow listers I was writing a writing to the gang. Fair. I was like I refuse to apologize for this terrible pine am sneaking in an hour

I feel lighter, I feel friendly way. You're, certainly not alone. There are blocking the Youtube com has hung the video After about about reasons you should move, to none of it in the first comments as how much of that provinces inhabitable answer, none of it Oh sick burns all day I then, and in every way, and then everyone proceeded to schools guides not a province you're more on its territory, so here Big Dumdum head and your plan was bad and theirs, there's no solid proof of any cover up at this point, There's no declassified documentation is no deathbed. In fact, you former intelligence officer anything, but there is solid proof, Your earlier point Matt that the mill ice of the arctic circle has made the region a GEO, political, hot spot, think about it. There a bill in the dollars to be made in future arctic shipping routes.

There also potentially billion of dollars to be made in extracting resources from this area. It is therefore the least- and this kind of my opinion will start a fact- it's relation, but it is one hundred percent plausible that for in powers, including the? U S, Russia, throw China in the past as always, were adding up scary. Her powers they could be. Moving around and to your point about about hidden technology nor its possum they could be doing it largely undetected. The motivations are there. If not the meets a dont discount the canadian secret submarine croup winter. It is called I'd. I don't even know if it exists, but there's gonna be one right. There's gotta be I'm kind of secret, Canadian Super old submarines there so cool, but I just couldn't

I couldn't be in one for a long time? I don't know about you guys. I think I would. I don't think I would deal with it well now, I didn't do. Do you have any kind of upper claustrophobia been no now I I guess I've never really been a situation where I wear would be that bad. But I do have dreams sometimes run like packed into like a piper some thank you now, and it's not pleasant. Of being buried in a coffin early freaks means that sort of how it seems like it would be only for a very, very long time take this vote, I mean it's a rare, said his skills, you people who were sub mariners are dedicated and focus. She'd have to be I mean media imply that be on a submarine for a longer time and you'd be buried in a coffin. That's so weird thing to say: I apologize is solely fine. I mean you can agent Chet, the horrors of submarine flageolets and just we talked about this. Is he asked I subscribe

the overall smelling us of it. It's definitely a thing yet it is everybody listening to this currently on a submarine give us your favorite. Are your move? Your weirdest sub smells stories. You can contact us directly any time of day or night one last new for this we ve laid out the broad categories, the possibilities here, but whatever the ping is whether or not it actually exist. There is one thing for sure we, do not need some mysterious noise to explain the increasing decline in animal populations. We had. We have the culprit for that. It's us! It's you in civilization. We will kill these animals out soon enough, This is not to be preachy. These are. These are just facts. This is the problem ass. These animals are specially adapted for a space if it environment and

environment will likely ceased to exist, so if you You feel bad about that go check, output, bears. While you can't be careful, they will kill you They are dangerous, hitting elucidating super by it, but you know I mean we're it's it's redeem who is to ignore the fact, the objective truth the matter in this issue. That deals in fact, is that this this this question about the pain. May well be moot The animals are disappearing. That's that's just true well, as you know how they the animal disappearing, the ice is disappearing and that's a product of cod, the change and when the climate changes the animals they if they find places that are more suitable to their to their climate. Me. It's so I do certainly think that that does to be most plausible explanation here, because

like the Windsor Hum, the kind of it ping up and solve and then remains something of a mystery, you're right least mystery. For now, till we discover that sub terrestrial summer mean base at the bottom of that street We will find in twenty twenty six it'll take a while we will get there. I'm joking, of course, but. You know there is one thing here that we didn't really discuss yes, or if the sound wasn't me, panicle in nature or vehicle or an experimental piece of machinery. What if it was biological What are you saying that? Are you say in some sort of unknown organism could be response. What could be scaring off the other known animals? Careful, my friends,

teeter on the precipice of Crypto Zoology There we, you mean, like a loch Ness monster kind of situation like a giant Arctic sea monster. Maybe, but you to wait until next episode to hear about it, Now you are a mischievous devil and I love it. Yes, you see what's gosh, guys the the gates of possibility flung wide open the horizon of creepy stuff, Russia's forward from the future to meet us you guys know that the only thing I'm scared of more than like birds is giant underwater monsters. Yeah I've got to get hardware awhile back on episode like I always have dreams that I make in this vast c and there's a giant presents beneath me and I sense it

it's not that I'm worried about getting eaten, it's just the very existence and presents and being in the Symmetry of such a thing is very my blood run cold. So what what do you think folks? Are you know? In the past the episodes we ve seen mysterious noises traced to industry like the winds or hum or natural causes like shifting earth or ice? That would be that's the most widely accepted explanation for the bloom. But do you think Something else here, do you think there's a mystery of what do you think? There's a sea creature. Do you think, there's a mundane pollination do you think, there's some kind of differing speech. What is actually happening in the official narrative? Have you yourself heard this ping? If so, we want to hear from you Please find us on social media where we are conspiracy, stuff on twitter and Facebook you can find. Thus on Instagram conspiracy, stuff show if you

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