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from you at those two psychic powers and government conspiracies history is riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or learn this stuff. They don't want you to know a production of. I hardly below. Welcome back to the show. My name is met, no is venture, but will be returning soon. They call me, then we are joined, as always with our super producer, Paul mission, control, deck and, most importantly, you or you are here- and that makes this stuff. They don't want you to know before we dive into today's show, which is viewed pretty interesting. Actually, one of those mysteries that we do have an answer for we want to give you a quick uptake,

on some stuff, we learned about Kovac nineteen, the novel Karuna Virus, which currently a sweet the globe pace comparable to keep up much more deadly, try- and many of you know we're in Atlanta Georgia, where we record this, and this is one of the places specifically Fulton County, one of the major counties within the greater metropolitan area. Here in Atlanta it experiencing a bit of an outbreak including within the public school. System right as we were walking into record today, just this just this afternoon. I learned that full County school systems, are closing. For now. Two sanitize. The area. That's The official line, no one How long will be closed for doing so because a an employee was recent,

confirm to have grown a virus at this point the? U S still lags behind. Their countries in terms of testing? in many people, including vice reporter and myself have been prized going Through you s, customs find the they just let you in other countries by way or having much more extensive testing some trees have mandatory fourteen day quarantines, which probably still has a long enough. I so we want to hear from you Why what's happening covered wise in your neck of the woods, and I don't wanna go. Tell anyone's business here, but mission control weren't you about to hand over to ITALY. Are you still going? Ok? No! He is not UK that makes me feel a little safer.

Will. Italy is actually there there also their death tools, their death toll increased by a hundred and thirty three people today, its March ninth, as we record this I end around the world were seen. Countries take different. From approaches and many countries are good in front of it there sacrificing you know best. Press or their taking the hit with bad press. Yet look over Lee prepare or pessimistic or pragmatic. I would Go there out every time, absolutely absolutely, and you know man, I'm not gonna name names, but there were a couple of tea who yet again implied that I was. I was being paranoid or over thinking. It too is getting euro, to revamp my bug out bag, but that's just what I do want to get in vehicle dude,

anyone through his shade at your bug, bug out bag, no matter who you are out there or within this room since now you re afraid, Lucy. I know what I like very and very boyscout about it. You know my bug out. Bag doesn't have one leaving legal in it in and to so invincible but it doesn't have a lot of the heavy stuff, the other people mine is like your stranded, in the middle of nowhere, your car breaks down or something you need. Be alive for seventy two hours. I don't think that's crazy, that's not crazy! It all! That's my entire trunk space and, in my view now is, did Can wrong opened the trunk It's great yeah, yeah is where factor I was talking with a friend of my or may nameless this weekend. When I just got back and he was you he was telling me about a kid he has for guns,

wounds to stitch himself up, and I thought you know really Corey, like bats, argues that there were no dodo, but the euro we'd lighter. Also here, oh, what what you are doing in reaction to this in your neck of the global woods. Do you feel This is alarm ism. Do you feel like people are not making a big enough deal, did you already have a bug out bag. I hope you already with We hope you already wash your hands normally near as one of the weird things you know, I did not apply in a back to real before coming into this room, though I did yeah did yeah. Why didn't I? a shower is Covered myself in hand, sanitize you're late, Danny De Vetoes character, and it's always some in Philadelphia, it I'd it made its people came over and you know it would have been weird a few weeks ago, but now they were like. We get it

the eyes I should in climb into a leather couch in order mean now, snow throughout the day and just Junior swear, there's a lasting yeah. We were having this internal discussion here. Just about these microphone covers that been now you're talking into right. Now there, these removable it just black mesh microphone. First and so many people use these studios now throughout the day and just talk right here in close proximity to these things, if you must get sick it will be the honor talent so I will know- met since since our fellow listeners can't see this two year now, attics were pictures of it or something I you and I the troll as well. We keep our

relatively far away from the MIKE in comparison to some other people here and I just keep getting further and herds. Are you guys? Ok, when these only like this, the whole episode? Will you is about bad for business. Banja Luka right eye, so both war, the wheel burns down, and while we were waiting brew, questions are probably saying. Ok, I want to tell you about my bug out bagger. I want to tell you why then you're being crazy, or I want to tell you- I want to know more about. What's your trunk Matt whatever you say that you probably thinking how do I do, I communicate with guys directly while you can find us any number of places where we're just the internet is riddled with us. One thing that we we ve started to do is to give some twitter shouts because too Is you added worse, it is assessed, pool of misinformation and at its best it can

You get around things like state censorship or mainstream media censorship. It's an invaluable is like fire. It's an invaluable tool for the villains and the heroes right throughout mythology which will come into play later, does right. So I don't know man, you gotta, you gotta twitter shadow. You gonna kick off, I do I want give a big shot out to Jeff who made a video message and sent it to us, and he is only wearing a hoodie, because If you follow us conspiracy, snuff spoke like it sound but yeah he's here since a message about a company that he wants us to look into, and we ve already done some initial searching around about it. So thanks for sending that to us, Jeff spoilers her now well. Are you can see what just talked about on twitter right? Yes, you do. If you follow us at conspiracy. Stuff spoke like it sounds on. Twitter also want to give a shout to Sarah at Sarah Alan who said, I love that you all covered the Jeff Davis eight

your last episode one point of contention Frankie recharge name is pronounced recharge, not Richard endorse. The idea, and that's we appreciate that correction- you no proper nouns can always be all the trick. We all pretty everybody who wrote in guarding the Jennings eight podcast, we think it's important story, and it is a mystery that has yet to be solved. So without further ado onto today's episode this, this is a weird one. It's what we heard about, a while back, but pretty recently when you like This period of time as a whole, but I guess everything humans are pretty Risa if you would get the span of time, is a whole earth is sort of a fad. Whether anything thing here, let's scope stick around. What are we gonna? Do hey? We had a good run. Ledges. Let's look, while we can, there we go. There we go.

It reminds me of an old joke in Spanish, does really translate the English, but keep their market have we give their might know Isabella. What do you do with your hang it on a clear you there's a strawberry Bush and it's the only thing. That's We knew what you see the roots pulling out of the clear anyway, that the punchline is when they like. What do you do? The punchline as you eat the strawberries? That's pretty good at funnier and which would you or I will you write that humanity? Let's look back while we can't the more we learn about early humanity, the stranger our collective story becomes ray. We we know still that the general pattern of human migration from african continent throughout the rest of the world, still seems still seems legit. Are there are tons of things that appear to confirm this? However, recent research has revealed. There is an entire

masses of volume of other chapters that were missing from the broad strokes of that story. We know now that a lot of stuff all along stop the sounded crazy or cookie backward. Many of us listening were were children. A lot of us of has been proven. We know that our ancestors or given for homo sapiens. Ran Sesar is met mingled and may have in bread with multiple other hominid sort of the early mix. Tapes of what would become humanity. Things like neanderthals Denisov ends were recent discovery Lorenzo yes, the so called habits, as a matter of fact, we are again There was another smaller human like peace is discovered in the Philippines as well, and- while really recently yeah really recently.

There was a. There appears to be maybe another ghost in the genetic code and February 12th, two thousand and twenty we found reports that some West Africans may have genes from an ancient. What people are calling ghost hominid and they found this through genetic research in and they ve learned. The dna from this as yet unidentified harmony and die It involves tumor suppression and regulation of hormones or all to say. All to say that we are very much still in the early days of understanding exactly where we came from I'm just anyone say this, then that ghost DNA come on. We all know what that is, that extra terrestrial Graham hand, how you do you want chariots. I wanted to be true, so so ardently you know look in using other thing. Just when we're talking about this kind of stuff.

If you are a subscriber to thee the theory, we will say it is a theory of. Evolution in the way that you know all or most of science believe in the way like gravity is a theory has. Do you realize that there are a ton of experimentations and combinations that occurred through DNA? We're different things were produced dominance. What we understand as the model say homo sapiens right, so many varying things. Have been pretty just that's just the way it functions, and we baby forget sometimes that just because You don't have a specific skeleton of a large group of a though you know like oh, Dennis Open or something does doesn't mean that their art jumps.

Between there were versions of a human, and that is a Denisov slash whatever I'm against it. Just use neanderthals an example, but I don't have the timelines match in just cause. You don't find a bunch of those bones somewhere, doesn't mean they didn't exist. Oh yeah, it's a big stew, a girl, if you only gumbo of humanoid dna of harmony, dna in that's, you know, just as we just remember that as we continue throughout today's episode, genetic gumbo. I love it yes, so that the most recent discovery just to put it in perspective. If you listen to this, when it comes out like what, month, we found evidence of another early, thing there was very much like us. Such that our ancestors could into breed with it, meaning that, whatever this ghost in in the jail machine? Is it is all part of us and soulless listening today are

in a very real sense, then part goes, into we identify it. If you have your rubber or men day, ancestry. Then you have you two nineteen percent of genetic material from this mysterious population tat- and we don't noted, is it's a ghetto quote missing. Link right now between you know, wherever that genetic population was right- and we are saying, is anything crazy, we're disown IONA, we just don't oh yeah yeah, so this is where we're out. There is a fascinating argument to be made that Matt. I know you and I both come back. Worth over in the years between it's about the relationship between folklore lore, in fact, could all these recollections of those ancient encounters have survive somehow through probably oral storytelling right. For the written word and Would they have inspired those age old legends of meeting, since she ain't not quite human creatures,

the things we think of is the trolls or or elves goblins, dwarves and so on Could it happen me maybe that's the thing is fastened, there's no proof of this and it would be very, very difficult to prove, but still concept has, courage, conjecture now, just about the the green? his tits of supernatural sentient beings that we named right now but other stuff You know things other creatures their worth. To be sentient that have been largely relegated to the land of legend myth, namely giants its giants This is where it was rolled ominous biblical quote: there were giants in those Oh yeah, I think you're a thief I for farm, oh yeah, but To get on to grind the bones to make our bread yeah,

It's an cannibalism, closely, related yeah, our world folklore then what do you say? We take a quick break, and then here to the facts, absolutely. It seems like it should be easy, but it's not just getting out of bed and getting your day started, trying to accomplish everything you need to do in your day that to do list as a lot easier when you're getting news stories and music to lift your mood and preparing for the day ahead connected to the things that make you laugh and make you think or make you want to reach out and share with a friend every morning with us, it's Elvis Doran in the morning show listen to us on cue, one or two or anywhere in the world. On the I hurt radio app.

Here are the facts in several episodes. We have examined the concept of ancient giants before so for a full dive into this. Do check out this earlier episodes. Oh you with one specific one would be the legend of the Sea tat car which is a native american legend. No boilers, but it's worth your time, o indefinitely us and also just to set this up front as well. You may have, at some point on a social media channel, found images of giant skeletal remains just in researching for the sea to car pursued and a couple of their past episodes. Many of those, if not all, of them are photoshopped, and our bogus just put out there there Or, however, reports coming out, there going to talk about today of real

real discoveries that are out of the ordinary when you're talking about the size of a skeleton, so, yes yes, so, let's, let's also point out Not all of those photos are necessarily modern hoaxes. Absolutely is a downright shrouded: turnstile, oh yeah, hundreds of years. This kind of thing has been Touted by twenty usable charlatans, my people are just trying to build you for some money rights yet, and what's. Ok, we get this away. This is this is factual part of the show the right. So this is where we have to be the paleontological party, pooper heard just for a bit long story, short and most of the episode you done regarding What we would call giants found that the concept of giants, the stories in the legends the allegations can be attributed to some. Some pretty

mundane causes, and we wanted to dive into one fascinating exam, we'll tantalizing, I would say, because we can't we can't white prove it no enemy, but you can't think he can't get a hundred percent there, but we're about ninety percent sure this adds up to the true story: we're if you think about. Stumbling across the remains of some creature. That is unknown to you. They looks very different Pretty strange, you look at those bones and you think will wow that looks kind of like a leg bone or an arm bone in it. What is this school! What on earth is this what we're gonna time, arousing example of finding a strange goal and maybe miss attributing it too. Being some kind of humanoid creature rights, yeah yeah,

misidentify bones from other animals and what's fastening here- is that in Two thousand and three geologists with University of Crete, natural history, museum named in China, lampposts fossil us of a source. He noted that Greece and the Aegean world once upon a time, millions and millions of years ago, homes, something called Dino theorem gigantic on the ball, our translation for this by the way is huge, terrible, Beast NEA S, who this thing why understand now the guy million millions years ago, eight or nine million years it is, it was distant relative to the modern elephant, but it was gigantic. It was four point

six meters, tall or fifteen feet tall and add a huge task. It was one of the largest mammals to ever stroll around this fine planet of ours and ancient p. In that area. Millions and millions of years later were almost certain to have encountered at some point. Fossil. Of these creatures, and since those people were, very much like people of today did just where you're describing them. They said: ok, let's I was rapporteur heads around this. What is this thing or there's a leg bone this huge whenever this thing was is huge and timber time or Greece I'm increase very Jean Peninsula and all their very, very smart culture in many ways, and they try to explain it through the lenses of their current understanding. Yes, through in this case, greek and roman mythology, there's an

author named Adrian mayor and She argues that both of these groups- Greeks and Romans, they saw this as possibly evidence of some of the mythological creatures. They were pre existing. And she wrote about this in her book called the first fossil hunters, paleontology in Greek and roman times, yeah So we we know this was a common thing, purchasing Greco, roman the times and not now are the world than in any part of the world whenever humans find stuff, we are explained, we classify airs. We want to be the smart, essentially there's his ancient story, this myth. Bout, this creature, and now we found this real fossil bullets. Let's go, those things together right through the lens of our understanding. We have to realise that mythology, what we call mythology now was

very real way of looking at the world, and in explained a lot of stuff and plus, a benefit. A lot of mythology is inextricably intertwined with Dickens the movements of the Heavens, so this love seems real Riah soap There's a archaeologist named Thomas Strasser, who agrees Adrian mares writing, and He said specifically, you'll never be able to test this idea in a scientific fashion, but the ancient Greeks were farmers and they would certainly have come across fossil bones like this from the huge terrible, terrible, huge beast, and they would try to explain them and they didn't have a concept of the theory of evolution, so it makes sense to this archaeologist that they would reconstruct them in their minds as things like giants, monsters, sphinxes and so on and a man I know die into for anyone who hasn't her. Telegraphing. This

four minutes now well What was the war is the money I why? What did People think the dinner theorem gigantic was Well, if you never seen dean of Irian Jaya Skull, I recommend if you can see for right now before us spoil it for you. Ok, ok, you know, driving or if you're in a Tesla like do little voice, vocal command thing or whatever. I don't know how new cars work a Cyclops in that might be a little with bit surprising, wait, you're sings an elephant like creature, razors M two eyes yeah and they do have two eyes, but what they also have if you're just looking at the bones, the skull is a giant shine. Centred nasal passage rights right in these schools clearly differ from the sculls of modern asian or african elephants. That needs passage is huge. Does kind of look like

Where you put a monstrous, I especially thought maybe where the actual eyeholes r r ear holes, I hope I sockets. Sorry, oh yeah, you're, right dude, you right The ice is really do. What are you would be where the ears are because their separate their their separate israeli bird? I bird I sockets, are separated on the sides of the face. Anyhow. So the cyclops we can't prove it a hundred percent but pretty sure was the misidentified skull of this monster. And the monster elephant itself is scary enough writer. So that is so cool. I wonder if it was his intelligent. His elephants are today, you know it was at least the the precursor you can totally are while its graveyard. That's a browser yeah, I'm in occurred somebody with those tasks so a lot of monsters in full court as

irritating is, is there a lot of them, not all of them, but a lot of them were the result of misidentified fossil. Were things we attempted as the species to explain. Second, in going to Europe point met about about Photoshop one Dane explanation of giants in general is unethical reporting from. Breaking in newspapers and other media going back a long time, and also going forward, time pretty recently occurred in the United States. You know you ve probably heard tell as we say in Tennessee, if you're, not from the. U S, you ve heard stories about the lateness. Tenth century in early twentieth century discoveries. You know me eighteen, hundreds discoveries where there would be a reporter with a breathless claim that somewhere out there in the desert,

in in the lawless lands were not quite states as someone, it found bizarre huge skeletons. Tied into the myth of the American West, stray the pre european existence so far None of those claims have been proven if you're talking about like twenty foot tall giant ray, There again you ve probably seen those images again there they are convincing, but faked. And all his using we notice all your time eldest previously on these episodes theirs turn of people out there, who believe the story line that someone somewhere either at the Smithsonian or the Natural History Museum or some other organization, the Vatican, to roll out the red carpet oil at that time

bones were covered. These these ancient remains were recovered and sent off to one of these institutions and then that institution is then hiding it from the public right. And the big question there would be motive. Why? Why would they do that? Even even if it were plausible for that to happen happened? It's it's possible, I guess, technically, it's possible again is big leap from possible plausible. So why would they do it? That's that's. The peace puzzle that we have to we have to solve. If we want to engage with that that theory and in what you'll hear, is that its to hide the true nature of humanity right, right, This ties in a little bit with some some criminals I'll just will argue something like that right, but not on air pepper what do you mean by air anyhow so and we'll get back to them?

later on in today show just to hold it in your head bracket. Don't tattoo yourself with that. But you know I remember it for the next few minutes. So we know, with the notable exception of the sea, tat car a lot of those things turn out to be legends or hoaxes, and then, of course, there is the third, the third key, men cause that we we have found an it's. It's a personal one for a lot of people, and Therefore, it being someone is something that I its personally way, that I dont think other people should intrude upon by which I mean so Council giants come from ancient religious sources or text, and this can he'd, modern adherents of these sources or texture belief systems to accept the stories because their part of the faith.

System of the belief system that they have. No, especially when you get to people who have a literal interpretations of things rather than metaphorical or figurative this. This means that order to practice their belief system, they have to believe em Everything that is involved rights example of having to accept everything while part and parcel The belief system would be something like the belief and gin for for many people, who consider themselves. You know, astute and committed followers of of the belief system yet the like of Islam there People say what you have to believe in June, because it's in the Koran by far one of the cruellest appeared minded imperence, is in the Koran: YO, a creature,

of smokeless fire get it there. Incredible and you have a pact, were you ever you ve, been involved with Pike, asked about that right You almost set it perfectly because its the issue all about gin. Anything people we very surprised by the Show- and it's not as yet been, but it will be out at some point this year. Ok, that's what I'm! What are you sure? I am personally very excited for me to silk so there we have additionally, and when we encounter the world of faith and religion, there could be a situation in which giants are. Scribes, some sort of supernatural power, whether disk because of their dissent, from a diviner, otherwise supernatural being or because its part of the other thing that makes them not quite human rights and, if

supernatural, then that means logically, the natural rules don't apply to them. So why would you try to Cardiff these things in human terms agents of the infernal or agents of the divine so they have. Those are three reasons: we have. We done several episodes in this. We found three recent misidentification purpose boxes, religious accounts, we didn't bring up novel in, but we didn't know yet Hannah and we talk about an earlier episode. So this me leave a lot of us are fellow listeners. Guy bomber So all these giant myths, bogus and turn this episode off the big secret, the giant secret, about giants. It's a joy hopes you guys are terrible everything is terrible, throw my phone! I'm done! a place it on the ground and to speed up wait for the covert yeah! Don't worry,

We didn't see that yet we did not say that these are all bogus. What are we talking about I'll? Tell you, after a word from our sponsor hey I'm haze and I'm Casey. Tell you everything you're here, if you subscribe to news o clock, not if, when what news a clock, you ask why it's the new show from Buzzfeed- and I heard coming I u every week day evening. What's that you want another kind of stories will be telling you about. Well, you ve got your corona virus news, your election news, if celebrity news, your book is your pop culture does, and maybe even sports those ever happen again. Good news,

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who spent some time tracing out history, we can verify this story will get into a July twenty. Seventy nine two long ago right The story came to us from China's seen what news agency and they reported that these archaeologist had discovered the remains of a few, thousand year old community in Eastern China, members of this community have the bones: we have the proof, it didn't disappear. The Smithsonian does navigator. Whatever these people appear to be. Joy giants. There are described as Dr Zira describes, J J Z So we look to thing way who the head of the chandelier University school of history and culture, and, if you through the reporting we talk about tracing the story, because you will find it in.

Thirty different publications, English written publications, that's pretty much the same story, just kind of copied, right, so we went to the we went to the primary source. Yes, exactly what we ve got to be redrawn so thing we describes how, since two thousand sixteen group, archaeologists having excavating the ruins of, before houses, children I've graves in twenty sacrificial pits in this village that been I'm gonna. Let you pronounce lecher out remind you. At least I know I don't know the tones Georgia. I don't know that we were and what I would say, Giorgio Mandarin speakers are going to punish us, and rightly so. Let us not to pronounce it. You can find a sun twitter and, I would say, Jane queer thing. John G Jungle Shoe Joam Shoe District in that's near there capital of shone down these legs are from something

neolithic Arabs, in a community called long Sean culture it's uh, it's in the middle kind of lower reaches of the Yellow River the name the culture after nearby Mountain mountain longshot, this area. As far as we can tell was a cold, powerhouse. It was a centre of politics, economy and course politics, economy sea related with religions at this time? Arguably still today, closely related midgets eyes. So They also found ruins ditches clay embankments. They found tons of accoutrements status, symbols jade pottery that all the hits all the hits and this was a cultural centre, these people here. Skype strides lived pretty well. They had separate better

using kitchens we that they had a solid diet too, pretty consistently, which was super import to the story now you're eating Millet their primary green there? There also eating some pork some pigs, some cases there. Also these giant graves where pig bones and pig teeth were found in blue Let's talk just quickly you about the archaeologists in this job and putting together, you know, the the ideas here. Oh the rules that we found are definitely places houses. They had separate bedrooms and we know that because of the way they were set up. That's that's me is almost magic being well to see with a lens like under having such a deep understanding of the history of archaeology, the history of humanity, to be able to look at something like that in figure that stuff out

and put together those pieces of oh there's millet in this layer of the soil, where all this other stuff is preserved. There's a lot of Here- and there is always pig bones like we can kind of see what these people live- right right in a lot of work has introduced very difficult process. The end of at the end of this episode, I'm goin to me: maybe a somewhat controversial or may without experiment, but archaeologist or working diligently around the world and around the clock, and they are discovering things and having to prove them. You several the Sunday six ways the Sunday whatever you want to say so this discovery is amazing, for these archeologists mother. Lode is a watershed moment. It fills in what has been described as a cultural blank from above four thousand five hundred to five thousand years goes further. Five hundred years

these giants. At least five hundred years, the math gets sketchy and fuzzy the further back here is the part. Most of us have been waiting for the big question. The your theory of gigantic mean the room, if you will just how big, where these people they met, we genuinely do have physical evidence of real life giants, what If do we mean when we say giant let me tell you you ready for this time limit the edge Yazzi hold on hold on to something ok farragos. They were between one point, eight metres and two meters tall. So can you America that for me really sure let's see one meters around three feet: yeah, ok,

So that would be five, nine irish five eleven to six to maybe XIX. Six, if we're reaching pig bones and pig teeth were found in will, let's talk just go: Well, that's it that's a little bit of a let down. We have we taken our fellow conspiracy realists and a bit of a shaggy dog story well I mean you know doc, great. Yes, spearheads is yes they found that that height is, we will get to taller. Men were found buried in larger graves and could be due to them having a higher status so politically. It could also be due to them having access to better food. We know there was a lot of inviting their sacrificial tits. Their people with clearly died by violence in such a violent way that you can tell just by looking at their bones, you neither rested body. Some wine

someone mark in an aggressively brutal way. So this height is. Noteworthy at the higher end in mind, parts of the world right now previous episode, we said, you know the shores average. I will tell me what women Philippines toss: average height is they to be males in certain european northern european countries Still for most people, you see someone who's, sixty six inches top you're going to think. Well that's no no worthy, but this the tallest person I've ever heard of its probably Niven tallest person, I've ever seen, especially via television justly the stats today, average height of professional basketball player in the United States is sick. Seven interest! All there, average mail is five feet. Nine inches Tal, which is still in the lower end of where this community of giants was discovered right.

I mean walking out at slightly above the average height, and I feel, like I'm sure, than most people, so you know that's just how how it goes, but he would use course really is war? What gives is there some kind of Paris in to the surrounding. Population or the people of the time? Were I mean it it's tough because it. We don't have a lot of information to go on we're talking about filling in really. Time whole here right, cultural time hole. So you don't have a ton of people Lou others too, here this too right, How do we explain this characterisation of ancient giants? Here's the thing the p in the surrounding communities actually shorter. So while these mysterious giants might seem unremarkable today, making money they were towering over their contemporaries.

Jason Communities- if you saw a bunch of these folks running at you in your village, in your you know your area, you would freak out because They were huge, and hopefully there in a good mood near the assumption there is while they must be stronger than me, they at least have probably more weight on me You have we reach yeah, oh yeah, oxen rules will ya you're with a weapon or whatever you're dealing with at that time, here's, the thing we don't have extreme leave great number, on the average height of the people and surrounding communities, but we do know the average height of Europeans at this in time and that is around five feet five inches or one point six, seven meters, so that for that would be a full foot foot an inch above if you're talking about the six six individual there, so the people.

In this culture in this, community were on average goin to be much taller. So. We can also take the example of Confucius, perhaps one of the most famous. Proven, factual historical figures from this region. Futures was around five. Fifty one to four seventy nine b c e he was described where from about one point: nine meares tall, which you know, sickish feet tall. Two other accounts that have Him nine feet in six inches tall gear. We have an excerpt from a book called Confucius, his life and thought? In here, we're we're just gonna described the farmers can give you quote here, and it says

According to the historical records, Confucius was nine feet: six inches tall, a height which seems to have been regarded as quite unusual. The measures the measures of length of the Han dynasty were shorter than those now in use. The height of a normal adult was about seven feet: that of a person eight feet, thus a height of nine feet. Six inches indicated something of a giant. In that certainly would, but I feel If you. Changed it over. I guess you'd be reducing by about two feet there. So then we have a nother issue with classification we can't just accept the assumption that what we call a foot. Meant the same thing right? Someone can't really, except for the giant, was so While these people would certainly have been intimidating. They were not as far as we know ten Tom away. We today understand feet. That's gonna sound, so we're out of context. We

today, in the way that we today, understandably hush signal. Turn Tina. In that The guy from other Nickelodeon shows to untangle the from all the nickel There is a long standing series. We troubling rumours about a very. Successful show runner for Nickelodeon named Dan Schneider and the allegations. Are there He has a weird foot thing that its way onto the air I have heard about, and these are you know these, your child actors? Oh, they have done a lot of digging into this in his tall. I don't know they haven't idea it to get course. You know is different

The court of public opinion in the river and then an actual quarter investigation, but will would it will look into it, Let's get back to the way more comfortable version, if we were talking right here, you yeah, so there's one other questions when we don't have a definitive answer to what made these people so tall right, Why were they literally head and shoulders over the jail. Communities, rights researchers theorize that ITALY, The men in the community grew to these comparatively soaring heights, because They were high status, individuals who had access to better food the most of their contemporaries. If you want to see a real life version of this aptly now, while you are alive shit EL the high comparisons between people? on the korean Peninsula, ah, before.

Maybe like some of the eighties babies who been developing during the famines of the nineties, of the nineteen nineteen they have. Because of malnutrition. The this, this population is genetically emerges, as discernible easily visible differences in advertising, So maybe it was just neighbours, the food We know that the name The burials suggests that these people, these given these giants, were wealthy. And then it's also suggested there were some grave robbery. Grew in cases of grave robbery because pottery and artifacts have been found within the tombs, were sometimes even not even stolen. Just deliberately broken. Someone came in and just smashed it. So there is a story there that as yet I'm a written maybe the revolt of some kind, the

Yeah again like this, you take, I you know so This is one of the weirdest parts of others. These giants are still around sort of the people, living in shutting down now still consider their height to be a defining attribute of the region in their communities Weirdly enough, this belief appears to be true. It appears to be confirmed yet. Twenty fifteen, the average height of men aged eighteen, inches long, was one point: seven, five, three meters or around five, eight five, seven, something like that. Yeah yeah with the natural national average around one point: seven two meters, so It's like. It's like there were real giants we just kind of explained away like any kind of supernatural reasoning behind them

ray we don't have. We don't have solid again a hundred percent proof through difficult to tried. Estimate those causes. Five thousand years ago, but it does appear. There were real giants basis. You know, as he said, a giant then wasn't the same thing usually can't speak for everyone. Usually, nowadays, everything giants we're like ten feet as minimum as minimum giant, but, let's just That's just our version of something that would be unbelievable. To be naturally occurring. Right. Just ten feet is so beyond what we have observed. The you just go about yeah, that's it something else is going on here, that's just not kind of genetic combination they just happen to get ten

We should also point out yet really good point that these people were healthy normal. They did not seem to be suffering from the genetic condition that fact of Waterloo, they didn't suffer from gigantic them. It reminds me of so I was in the city of London. A wild your movements and I saw the Tower of London. Fell nonplussed add to remember- is that at the time this was built, first towers, were much more difficult to construct and they wouldn't have there Lee broken someone be as tall in comparison essay the London Bridge or as tall as euro, multiple other multiple. The buildings in the area. Now he hath figures back in that mindset so back then, a town,

who is the Tower of London was did suit and I'm not denigrating incident is storing clean, significant building. It's just. I don't know what I was expecting you the kid our only her about users tower the Ravens, their special guards. Be viziers very like okay. This is very, very old building, especially for us Yankees. The towers were. Difference was kind and the same thing giants were different in this part of the world. I totally see it unless there's a less Matt, There really is some sort of overarching generational conspiracy to repress evidence of actual giants, in which case the recovery least suppress remains, would be without a doubt one of the largest expos ease in human history here Ok, here's my direct

that's grasses arts casually you're about to get like the story right I'll keep it short, because my argument, So we know we know that stuff. Disappears. I really appreciate your earlier point about how difficult. It is to find things specially organic matter because it is alive. It's hungry new, like there are still there not only have we discover in the course of the show that there are genuine lost cities and civilizations, but we we We also discovered that, many of those things, are going to be lost to history, especially in the committee on the environment or biome therein, they give. You If you have a law civilization in a jungle man jungles eat, human things do it very quickly in all the things that humans create? That's well, you're, saying Bulgaria theirs, the human, it's the all the stuff they put together

and they thought all. This is going be great last forever. So then it is again is possible that there could, an isolated population of even larger things. Jeanne Hominids of some sort and maybe get There's a lot of us here, maybe we'll say they were in a very aggressive biome like that you were in the jungle or something and then data's the earth ate them between the time that they expired in the time our versions of people came along, it is past Several of you don't think it's possible talk, was tell us why? Because we really feel like it's possible. Because of just Evans, we ve seen has been outlined there in our research. That stuff happens that

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