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hello, welcome back to the show my name is met. My name is no. They call me bed, we are joined, as always without super producer, all mission control deck and, most importantly, you are young. You are here, and that makes this the stuff. They don't want you to know. Here's the people define power. In all sorts of ways, for some more his power for others influence. while we're reporting remotely during the pandemic. You ve, probably no land matter myself heard noise the background that we who could not control I've got some people building, staircase behind my place, right now and having watch the staircase being built from scratch, is fun, but eighty loud severe any banging everything's. Ok, they're just try

build a staircase and we don't have the power to stop them yet died choose to interpret building a staircase as a metaphor of some kind like You know each attaining transcend, sooner, were building a staircase to two haven't like an outlet zeppelins zone staircases really providing you guys access, yes, yap for many people, power so the form of access there's an excellent read it thread you can read if you're, if you're familiar with red it, where someone breaks down the different. In a day to day life of up billions versus multi millionaire and after a certain point it entirely comes down to access you can just Give you are. You know that version will be Jeff basis level, and you want to talk to bill gates. You can just someone you wanna talk to bill gates and then you'll have bill on the phone. Your both billionaires. You have that access, but really listen, how you define power system

Haiti is to a large Bree going to be defined by who has access why and it doesnt matter whether we're talking resources, social contracts were just where you can physically go. I was thinking about your most people's I'm. I feel it is safe to assume most peoples First experience with the idea of a restricted area. The one you personally remember ATA on a micro cosmic level is gonna, be Something like this. Do you guys have a distant memory of childhood when you were maybe in a place of business, and he saw a door that just said private, or employees only I remember indoors. Listen pirate Who else knows what I meant for me. It was always at the the bookstore or like the of the video store. There was eyes. One like beaded curtain. In the back that said, no one under twenty one aloud- and I was like behind there,

They found out, you know, but then the internet came along and it was rendered Kenneth irrelevant, but it is definitely a thing that occurred to my childhood brain. Oh, you know what my my grandmother was where these say this, and I never this man, a man like flash by my group, other, had a room in her country. That I was not allowed to go into a blue air lock on it. A blue beard situation This is a true story, no Well, look, the part where you say why does away with our emotions like this? So it is true, though, I think for many people, listen to the show. Today, you have inevitably run into some some barrier, whether social, physical, something that you could not breach. Ass. Of course, you are immensely powerful person and you see, as there are people in world, it's true who can be, talking to a business

see a sign that says employees only and then just by the business and then say well now, I'm I'm kind of an employee. Let me in it was just open that door, her yeah, but those people are very rare compared to the rest. The population and the idea exclusion goes much much further than that. The truth is this: whether you worry president or a peasant, an upstanding citizen a hardened criminal or even even a billionaire. In some cases, there are multiple places on this planet that you. Who, for one reason or another, simply never be allowed to visit, and should you dare to break these taboos, there will be consequences up to and including in some cases, death. That's the subject of our episode. Today, old strangest restricted areas. Here are the facts. I couldn't be snarking, the notes. I love the title of this. There should be a doctor Seuss Book named O the places you can't go

By that I mean those nice graduates and lake realistic expectations, given both books Anything gauges list out. All of them very bases for every country. Unless you are a member of that military or some kind of extreme diplomat extra, diplomacy, is that, like an Ex games type situation, we areas it is. The U N, but with arm wrestling, and I think it, well if I may use that over the centuries, especially in the recent arab human beings. been banned from visiting certain regions or sites across the planet before we get in do the very weird stuff- and there is a plethora of very weird stuff- it isn't to note that often the real, since for these bans or sinister safari or conspiratorial there actually for pretty wholesome reasons. He at least

According to the official story re there it is So when an example is got a meal, I see this as I think of sparkling water. It's not Lacroix cave, it's less, scowl cave So, yes, ok, I'll, ask ok, that's in France and it has been close to the general public since nineteen sixty three, but it's not to hide some kind of you now clandestine supersecret military government operation. I instead, what it's meant to do is protect and preserve cave paintings, better than are found in sight. This cave, which are over seventeen thousand years old. Preserving History is probably not too much of a stretch for most of us to be ok, I would say, yeah unless some of those cave paintings are of you know the ancestors. They came from Mars in a million years ago. He there contacted by the CIA in paints. That's composed of l, that don't exist on the periodic table or our

nickel rooms of sums or maybe a different era by their their bare possibilities of of areas cover ups here, but I think for the most part, this one seems on the up and up yet this there are many play, This is like this. You know their sights of ancient human habitation or activity, and what we know about modern humans, allowing tour to those sites, will inevitably result in their degradation either through like looting or someone writing. You know Tommy TB was here Ancient some agent go back late at a kind of place or it'll just be the consequence. Completely well intentioned people alike, who want to touch stuff and put their nasty human oils and excretions on things. That's why you rob every painting in the museum they re, really tender. Brown upon that that the dough sense as though there called basically like since are like museum bouncers you now there

to have a certain gravitas to fill that role, otherwise just walk all over. I love museums swallowed the only things I miss from for the pandemic maker in its always fun when you're in a museum, because some of the most well dressed people are there in tears were there to make sure you're, not just like good having a sinister Asia moment Robin these paintings. I figured you tell her they kicked out. Ass, a visa is, but the is longer metal paints. We're ok rights right here right now, but it seems like a good job. Doesn't it you go yeah, I dont know if you paid or if every by his volunteer, but you go from four to eight hours or so in his hang out with some of the most meaningful art in the world and just I gotta do is watch some people in this check for sketch that's also check the sketch. You know, there's a museum: let's say that,

There's a museum like place. That is completely off limits. exist way out in the middle of nowhere in small barred. It's a museum like place and only say that, because no it's actually not museum like it's really. the storage facility- that's supercool, and it's definitely not public storage storage, where the public of the future we are not. That is why we cannot visit the doomsday vault in small barred aid. You ve heard of it before especially if you listen to this show is the repository for thousands and thousands of scenes. It's awfully or a version of Noah's Ark. Essentially, This is the one that inspired the debate scour whatever company to make a Oreo vault near by Yes, that's great pleasure, and hopefully, people will get on board with this your preservation

The idea is solid. You see what, if things get in worse than they are now if some crops or some plants are completely eradicated. This is our way to bring them back to really. idea and expense, that not everybody can visit. It's no you're, not you're, not absolutely band. There are ways to get in, but you have to have a compelling reason and you Basically, you need to have expertise or be the people who make sure that the storage is working, that the imo controls are working for with the AP, the Associated Press, or something in your specifically doing an article on it. Sometimes I've seen the let people and he pressed Bass documentary or something but then there is another another wholesome somewhat wholesome example would be,

she island, which is also far north. It's in Iceland. This is interesting. Alot of people forget this. Earth is a living thing right and it's it's going through it The boy asked Chechen changes all the time and they don't always made the news, Sir, the island, is one of the newest islands on the planet. People watched this island just ghetto happen. One thousand nine hundred and sixty three one thousand nine hundred and sixty seven, a series of volcanic eruptions turned ocean into land cool is that means that means this place. If you don't immediately ruin it with Oreo container wrappers from the news from the nearby vault we show up to the island- is robbing stuff. That's my picture. People now after researching this baby, I've you, if you can prevent this new island from being yet touched. A lot touch

obviously by people than you could observe how life be ends in a way the how life is transferred through the air and through the water to a completely remote place, and then watch. It essentially evolve. I have a micro evolution. I don't know what you'd call it by what you can. look at it almost like the Galapagos Islands beginning or something it's pretty pretty cool. So these aids. Its shut off from the world. So that is a select few scientists just like the vault can go there and new perform experiments. Keep keep track of everything that is happening and how things are changing on the island year. They wanna see, especially how this is unique, because scientists were able to prevent the public from ever get going on to this land, so their prime. Early, focusing our watching how life around Visit this island and how it colonise

this island and you know you make a fantastic point Matt if they can keep this situation going for long enough than they may begin to see different types. Species asian that driven by that trains of living on this island. There has Europe its idea from you, really is in one of the cool things just re reading, where the island, the number of birds dead, end of their number of species of birds that end up there and like Salamanders. Another amphibians in just really interesting, who live here, yeah like life just shows up man I know it is amazing, considering like the arduous any they take. This is an ideal, and these these bird it starts with a mould and bacterium fungi, and all this and their plants and they're all these birds, its awesome. If your bird, their new pressures,

Fears in this new land for now, and I'm still baffled by how how things that are not you know, see or flight worthy and up there. Only ass, pretty fascinated sounds like I have a lovely time on this island I think you would hate commingling with my bird brethren, your children, so so that that's an example. Those are so far. We ve described three scientific endeavour. But there is another round, that's little more pop culture when it comes to restricted areas, and that is corporate secrecy. Of course, there are plenty of corporate sites that restrict entreat. You might work in a place that has you know a story or server room, or something like that. that you are not allowed to go into you're, not the ideal person that make sense totally action, I happened to for a work related thing. A couple years and up at. I think it was.

and w or was it, was some like soda company. That also makes like you know, like generated drinks and they in their corporate offices and like Alice taxes. They had a pretty serious security protocol just get in to wear the meeting rooms are because also back. There are the flavor labs, where they're making all the like very, like topsecret intellectual property, which of the other day that's what these recipes our right yet and that's where that's where it that's where we arrive at one of the most famous local examples of corporate restrict areas, which I think is pretty funny. It's the Coca COLA Company Galileo extra they keep their top. secret recipe in a literal, vault and there's there's also You know the long standing story that there are only three people who know the full recipe at any given time, they're not allowed on a plane together. The vault is definitely true since

thousand eleven, it's been in the Indian Atlanta Museum, the Coca COLA, museum and people can visit the museum every day. It's great. If you love propaganda, which I do and The thing is almost no one gets to go inside that vault. So that's enough, good reason. You know like aid and of their restricting access. Their moneymaker makes here. Do you think that the thing that's in the vault is like a hand, written Legatee, yellowed piece of paper that was originally written on by Mr Coca COLA himself, whoever that as yet I was thinking the same thing I was I who is really hoping. That was the case. I am not one of the people who can get into the vault, but I do like. Imagine it looks I dont want. To be just a sheet of paper. That's funny I would like it to be like Indiana Jones is dad. GRAIL diary. Yes, but it's all. soda and I wanted,

Really weird and conspiratorial like it's. It's based on grandma. I want a soda gridlock, that's what I that's what I want to be involved so coke, if you listening, so think about all the places in the world where Coca COLA Class is actually produced, its produce in numerous factories, fried yeah yeah if you're so many works in the factory at the level of running the factory. maybe in the money of the factory could see what ingredients are being ordered to produce Coca COLA classic rain. Why that is like a concentrate that comes in like the Sirop or whatever they know, I don't know I don't know how they work. There are big Coca COLA, but here's the thing with this just inside. No, I in turn

thousand eleven. It appeared that the recipe may have been leaked, but not by again. berry purse, not linked by a factor, worker. Now I know a chemist. It was found this old leather, no book that belong to Britain's best friend another guy Miss Lily Atlanta named R R Evans, new relation to Robert, I assume I ve had no book was handed down from generation to generation and it has a recipe that includes an extract of coca, leaves caffeine it's a sugar, lime, juice, vanilla, caramel and then a couple of other slavery needs that are surprising, but they might in my view, drawn up into into soda. That's pretty cool, it's weird, but it's no, no confirmation from the idea of the new

Information is the secret recipe and also there some marketing, and they are clearly because that recipes changed over time, obvious Leah doesnt, have obviously now some of the old ingredients right, but but those things that the corpse secrecy is relatively new de, most historically speaking, the oldest. Existing restricted sites tend to be wholly lights, by which we mean only sir. Groups are allowed in their due to their perceived religious significance Yes, in one of these examples is in Japan, it's called the essay grand shrine. And only members of the japanese royal family are allowed to enter freely interest. did they. It goes through, cycles of continual reconstruction studying, from its it's a really interesting place. It's beautiful. As the most sacred Shinto

trying in the country dates back to the third century, a d Legend is the time to the sacred mirror that was given to the first emperor Japan by an actual deity by son goddess. I saw a strange because you can enter it. You're one of the people, rebuilding the shrine or, if your member of the japanese Royal family, so I'd, start evaluating your marriage prospects, good luck or get really really good at carpentry, an fluent in Japanese, and you know what be japanese. That is your best. Here that your basely, but that's you know, that's also as part of a spiritual values system who are you as someone outside of that value system to say you know I should be the exam this is where we run into probably the most famous example of a restricted area due to religion, and that is MECCA, MECCA, bars, entry.

you any people who are not of the muslim faith and its enormously controversial sticky situation, because there are some people. Who, for one reason or another, have taken that as a challenge right and I am going to. U know try to fake convert to Islam, which seems pretty disrespectful or I am going to know tend to be someone, I am not and get into and then I'm going to take pictures of MECCA and release these pictures to the wild. I that's pretty dangerous to measure, it is I understand load. The kind of human nature mean impulse. That the moment you tell somebody they can't do something. That's the moment they decide. They want to do that thing,

before they may have never even grid may have you ve never cross their radar, but I would argue that those people and are trying to infiltrate the sacred space should probably not do that and economically nab some issue. They need to contain with otherwise. Now I I think I would agree with you guys, but what if we were talking about MECCA. What, if we were talking about the Vatican, archives. We're gonna, want people to get in there and like move around a little bit? No, I'm sorry don't do that when we leave hand you can there just there Reading system is really weird. We talked about that very day. Talking about the place you can go and red stuff, I mean really looking around. You know what a free Rome now I get it there I get.

You do know the world sandbox arrived there, yet all know exactly what you're asking for her. If I didn't know that had already existed kind, I have to know where it is all you do is come. You know, african banker and or Pope. So yes, Good, I mean specimen, I could do it speeded up stay up in the Pope, the baseline, That is right. Now you have to be a dude, so they're, just like being Member of the royal family, Japan there are, there are restrictions in eighteen, oh, it could be argued. Very easily that these sites are practising discrimination, whether or not you visit. These sites is dependent upon your social standing or your involvement in a belief system, but most of them of the world, seems able to accept this situation. It's it's

easy thing to accept. I think for lot of people say why go out of your way to disrespect someone else's belief system for no other reason than what you want. You want to run and just like start touching stuff, they again I'm keeping this aid. the idea of tourists just like leaving their palms and being an ancient sculptures May I just want to find out what's inside the Vatican archives come on. That's all! That's all. I feel like you're, getting rubbed the books look if I needed to actually know you know, I wouldn't, because I'd be in there, you know I have learned, was sneaky spy style. I would have gloves on you known, protect my identity movie with this, is the plot, so many I'm sure, there's like it. I think it there's a genre ray, I would imagine, isn't isn't there she go right. That's the genre,

Vatican treasure soaring only cage new cage, but that was about when the constitution rate, which has he probably shouldn't rub yeah yeah, rubber copy, so also last neuron, Vatican, men. Those books must smell amazing because, like the smell of old book, I very much do. I am surprised that doesn't exist. The courier afresh. Allow. That is fantastic idea, cut our partner, luxurious Spencer, we're on our way down cut up out. the broadcast start up. So yes, it is true There are places like that and if you, whether or not follow. religion or insert belief system here. Just as a matter of respect for your fellow human beings. You have to be a jerk about it.

To be like. Well, I'm not muslin by. I am an architecture experts, so I should get to go. No body no equal, There's the end, there is a similar thing with wild life protection There's with this is this is something that has become increasingly com, men in the modern era. There are multiple regions of earth, there are concerned, legally protected, specifically to give wildlife refuge from hunters. and from the spread of human civilization places Mary Mona in the cook, islands, it's where the world's largest protected marine areas, in terms and in terms of just area just the measurements, its bigger than Mexico big deal and good on the cook islands for doing it, but believe it or not, even the even the idea of what's

let's give animals a place to live, even that idea can be controversial, because doing so can we The activities of businesses, things like commercial fishing mining oil drilling the other forms a resource extraction. Who are these fish? to stand in the way of progress. Some would argue it, but again there, not always big swap. The Oceans Lake We need a lot of them are closer to home. These wildlife protection sites, or these places you can't enter to protect wild life, are one of them is a place that our crew, a very close to a number of years ago, North Brother Island, spoiler, we didn't make it yes, not North Sentinel Island, in not that creepy building in of New York City in Manhattan was island called. I think it's called the oldest house. that's it that's what it is the oldest house there in Manhattan.

Recommend, checking it I'll, be careful if you, winter, because it seems too if a little bit while you're inside in the whole no windows thing but you'll, be fine Just gotta find some of those objects that are there. They don't call him haunted what do they call him in their objects of power, and I can't remember here: you'll find out just go if you can but no North brother Island is an actual place, it's an actual island is up there right near the Bronx. There's north brother, island and South Brother Island in North Brother Island is a no go, not allowed. No North Brother Island used to be one on a time a tremendously important to the city of New York. It was a former quarantine hospital for treatable diseases. Right combating you. You mention of air, her little trip that new and I took along with them.

Matt and Lauren Vogel Bomb, where we were barred from going to check the spot out because of lack of music videos we have some time we were going to Roosevelt Island. So fine, a very similar abandoned structure, we walked a pretty long way to the south end of the island. Only find that Kenya, Western decided to have a impromptu fashion, show there. Oh that's what it was offensive our access was restricted. Power that is going on power is half so much power of white, speak, this is some you may like, nor on worth brother island. Do you know what it is really now now some bird sanctuary Blue what is up with all secret bird sanctuaries well to good official reason. I look, birds should live, I get it, I'm not

bird to that level, I just don't know that I would want to spend time on a place where they were just running round Willy nilly, because that's what they do here and city birds are like city people. They can be surprisingly agro. Sometimes you know it in those those are some tough pigeons and seagulls. They did not come to play with us, but yet knows wildly: refugees. There are huge thing and their aid in this is interesting because for some of the more kids torridly minded some of the an explanations, bird sanctuary, etc, etc. They might be cover for less wholesome activities, but in general, what we just scribe are examples of good reason. She can't go to certain places and in each of the is named above. You can see video footage of these places. Journalists have been in their food makers have been into you, know the vaults decay.

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they had never occurred before harp is just a r p, with an age at the beginning, oh Ok, so it's the Holy Mary, gain Association of retired person hits there. May directions of this rapid whole could take us by. Surely it's not a coincidence it may be absolutely totally ass. I was, I was talking to some professor awhile back, who said something really stuck with me. I won't his name out, but in the wood. I can about geopolitics and timing of things Domestic events that occur- and he said always start off with the assumption that coincidence in this sphere does not exist, and all I ask is that someone prove me wrong is like, and I build my career on that way For myself wrong, you ready as her back stands for high frequency, active auroral research programme, and I knew that- and I got it wrong of course, why

those so incredibly disrespectful to Hank Aaron's patio. these sports, a legend whose path You will recall that yeah well, we found out when it a little bit, but but you write the thing about that kind of experimental facility? Is that because in due time nature. Would secrecy pupil, spread all sorts rumours about what it's actually do? there are also happens with things recovered in the past. They closed cities in Russia and Asia and for a time in Tennessee, there also needs also another thing: an existential crisis that we talked about like isolated communities, that risk extent in their exposed to the modern world like North, internal island. I think that's one that still captivate everybody, because No one really knows what the population is up to. You know

what their day to day lives or their beliefs are like, but no one One thing is for sure: they're, not thinking about US well. They identity. They do not want us around online yeah I think more so it's like hey here's out Life is what we are doing. Sure they really yeah yeah. They occupy really interesting space that will touch leader in this episode there that's the thing, is we done? pursued that all those and, of course the DMZ, which we could talk about all day, also bird sing whereby the way nor- but there are yeah sorry man, but that in its an accidental bird sanctuary, just because less likely to hit all the landmines and human chasing them, but it's true, but The thing is, there are many, many many more restricted areas and types of restricted areas. They get very strange you'll, often here

that places are restricted for your safety, a lot like a north brother. I one of the reasons people are not allowed to just visited Willy nilly is that there are our concerns that exploring the structures there would be unsafe. You know like the floor. My collapse might fall on you or the case. A bit Those ill hard day care, Martha grander. You might be bitten by snakes Arafat. You are statistically certain to be bitten by it's, not straight up wearing armor when you go on tiny island. This is the stuff of nightmares for a lot of people. You walk ten feet. You are guaranteed to run into anywhere between both you just stand. Then there will be anywhere between one to five snakes in immediate ten square foot area of you know, yeah? Well? Some people want to hear that you feel so strongly about this I wish him the very

super venomous snakes. I think they ve got some of the most venomous snakes in the world on that island. Golden lance heads yeah, thereby so literally disintegrate human flesh nope see, but do you The psychological urge met some people here that and they say what I want to go in there I have interpreted, which are scientists, the sunny snakes, they're, just people who are like. I can do it yeah? Well, you know. I think this will need to do guys. We need to have a reverse psychology campaign where it's a toy resume campaign come to snake island. We dare you anybody. Who will do it just weeding out guys called third man, sick new and generally a monster man. We got a big heard, though I see your point, but there

are also other sites, the restricted, ostensibly for safety, nuclear disaster Besides military exclusion zones, then areas of the world vaguely classified as no go areas right, for example, Emma is the site would probably most recently associate with the nuclear disaster area, and it makes perfect sense. You know you don't want to go. There definitely hashtag to send visitors who spent how much time there can definitely be exposed to damaging amounts of radiation overtime. Some sites are re open to the public. In fact, been. Some of become nature, preserves its well. If I'm not mistaken, for example, there is a lot of photos of Chernobyl site to this day and I believe it to me it's I'm an official wildlife reserve, but isn't it a pretty thriving kind of rich wild Rich area has certainly been reclaimed yet

you're, absolutely right eyes, because Is this ongoing debate in although specifically about to what and flora and fauna were affected by the contamination, and there are two big reasons that this happens. First, it gives scientists the ability to study the long tail effects of contamination on living organisms, so they can see rates Mutation as comic book as it sounds, it read that really is true, then just your point just like the DMZ, because there are fewer human beings running around the populations of large mammals are increasing, so yeah naturally becomes a wild life. Preserve like The case of the DMZ one of the big rumours legends, the thing We all tied up Fox Mulder to believe is the idea

that there may be large apex, predator feline, their tigers, unproven, unproven, improbably. Honestly, they're probably not the DMZ just because that area of the world is so heavily Sir veiled. By wanted to be true, I can Tiger bears emerging from Chernobyl? How could that be right? All the strength of the all the strength of a bear in the cunning of a tiger, I I say that, like tigers, couldn't also clearly with the snot out of ninety nine point: nine per cent of human beings, one hundred and twenty one on arms, pvp, but but but the other thing we can say is that you know like had no overtime. These sites do become less contaminated. So, for example, you can visit parts of Fukushima, Fukushima exclusion Zone is not the entirety of Fukushima and residents, who had to evacuate do too

nuclear disaster, as set many of them have been to return to their homes. So though nuclear disaster sites are legit nay, they do slowly reopen a time in a lot of cases. They are not necessarily hiding anything after they re, disaster hits and the inevitable cover up of fails, which they always do. Then, the world is aware of these and experts visit. You know to measure radiation to see the long term effects of contamination and the ecosystem. Why can't people go there free world right, If I would, I go risk contamination to see a tiger bear as my life the live big government, but the main issue, really it's kind of boring its liability. Imagine if you're ukraine- and you are allowing anybody to visit Chernobyl, even though it's not safe,

before the radiation begun to despair, diminish people are gonna, start come Do you in saying hey? I got cancer from hanging out at Chernobyl, and you let me oh yeah, you could we see somebody way that happening. I would make sense, other entry in this kind of category. Of forbidden places, would be military exclusion zones ban, which you mentioned a little while ago. There. this is again makes sense. There's a lot of dangerous things. The civilians would not want to be exposed to, but also secrets and so there are quite a lot of these military- a restricted zones throughout the world summer. Temporary and some are quite disturbingly permanent. Military installations. You gotta have lots clearances. You know the drill if he urban or a military, by even needs like visit, visiting like up Hollywood movie studio. You have to check in with the guy at the it'll turn style and yet beyond of some kind yet to show my dear

vacation and then be cleared and then have like a contact they are visiting and then they let you through, but you have to go to the specific place they are going as like. You can just like I'm around free. So you know a lot of these facilities habitat did lots of interest and speculation like, for example, places Area fifty one which, as we know there was a big kind of mass, visitation of area fifty one recently that I think it would have been a little more underwhelming than with the press would have had us believe they're right then who yeah yeah That's where he saw people do the very specific running meme with their arms back together with another marriage or run in your router run. I that that became kind of the. a shared online meme, slash stunt, I dont know I don't remember how many people did actually show up to groom legal area fifty one on on that particular day, but they were very ill

formed. In doing so, the government is legally allowed to murder you. If you go past the sides I'll, give you a warning, but if we keep going, they can shoot you. I think you are more. I you know want to look at the numbers, but I think there were more, people at the newest mean either in which was the now infamous battle of the Josh's he has heard about that. We talked about their those though no maybe maybe we didn't, but I will discuss two. Maybe off might but ended up being like up like a pool, noodle fight or something bees is fun, doodles or whatever their call, who won jargon some guiding Josh. I heard sir, which date you met, though there was such a gift that set up So so here we have to have these exclusions owns, but then there are other places. The everything we mention is he's a place. it is known it's on a map somewhere. It is officially acknowledged

and allowed to exist, but there are other places by the few of them like black sites, or like research stations in remote parts of the globe. These can go decades with their existence or purpose, never being officially acknowledged and the logic here. kind of sound, it's much harder to find a place. If you dont know where it is what its bill, for there really exist. There from his generally try and keep their torture dungeons off limits to people were hidden, which is what we no black sites can be used for not always sure place. Maybe you're right, you're right, the they are black sites are black boxes in terms of information, we only learn about what goes on there. What laws are being broken when it's a little too late to save the people involved were the victim seo who can be innocent,

then we have this other thing called New oh areas. No, areas are going to be familiar to every one in in audience today, because your problem, live somewhere where there wasn't like a law that said, thou shalt, not you know, go north of the and each avenue when fifty second or whatever, I'm just making things up I hope that no real neighbourhood, if it is sorry guys you ve, heard no go areas, maybe being described as the bad part, a town, the wrong side of the coin. acts a no go areas, often whose general way to describe it is a place that has strict shins, whether legal or informal, that prevent outsiders from entering and all You know fears that if you, sit there and you are not welcome. You are putting your life at risk

and there's a vain diagram here. It's pretty interest like Sentinel North Sentinel Island is both legally a protected area, locally acknowledges a definite, no go body living on the islands around North sentinel eyelid. They all know and none of them want to visit they they know score? I you know DEC centuries. Before that fortunate missionary visited on as well pension but ill informed mission I was just thinking about no goes, and yes, I owe you know there is not a switching station. It's a huge train state area Canada, Midtown downtown Atlanta Bright, thereby Is it a cab avenue we're just talk and tons of real railroad tracks nauseating far out

I'm just think about how much of a no go zone that is legally and safety wise. Yeah. Well, you it's interesting. Their mad that goes into her eyes, I do a series called invisible America underground. That goes in there is. There is a group of people migratory population who uses those trees, as their primary mode of travel and that they have HU. I talk to some this works and they have stories about how to get in and out of those places. Stuff get Stacy stuff gets Harry but yeah. They are no go zones, but I think we can get it. I cannot officially we, not officially on this shows it's easier to get into those places than you think. We cannot officially say that, but I am sure we have would not be surprised if we have some fellow

There is in the audience who have personal experience with this were may beyond some freight as we speak. If that's, if that's the case, stay safe out their folks, don't let the bulls find you and so you right there, your city has a bunch of no go areas. Your town has no go areas and new, often in recent years. You you'll hear this phrase used in a politically charged context. There were these persistent rumours and claims that the government of France had at some point quietly head of admitting defeat in areas of some cities and their told law enforcement and first responders, hey these places are now known. who owns the hour for them. from community only and they function under Sharia law. Luckily, that's now to be more fear, glorying in alarm ism Islamophobia than anything else, but it might surprise

Folks in the audience, to learn that these claims have been made in other countries, including the? U S, there have been euro what hyperbolic pundits going on air insanely? Well? Is blown love so and so was taken over in pretty much every case that turned out not to be true. It turned out to be greatly exaggerated. Luckily, but the idea of New goes owns defined as a place where local authorities refused to enter. That is very much true and that occurs in places across the world from the border. Parts of the Kenyan Somalia Border and Fidelity and Brazil, which are you, know, very economically deprived places where the functioning government is going to be a criminal in nature,

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some areas of the world that are restricted not due to fears of religion, not due to fears of you, no crime or nuclear contamination, but instead these air of the world, are restricted due to super natural concerns. That's right, folks, murders, correctly supernatural concern sounds like the opening of a horror story, but there are actually a few sites that appear to restrict access due to get this depressing. Of ghost yeah. yeah there's a place called a bun Gar Fort. I think that's how you would say it. It's in India and you can go there during. regular, let's say business hours. Even hangar. You can hang out there, but if you want to go when it's dark, you have to say you're a government permanent and its

basically I dont know for me: it's to keep track of who's. Gonna die tonight, I'm just joking us. What it is? I love it? You wave your right to life when you the permit yeah, maybe the permanent consider you legally dead your last answer why they have thing to recover winds once you know, become non corporeal on the site. Yet, so interesting, because it is the way it's phrased is specifically before dawn after Sundown and euro at first blush. This could be us this could be a policy of almost any common public park. Re alot of parts have our better delineated in terms of the clock or just simply say you know. The park is closed at sunset, but this place is different. It's pretty old was built in fifteen. Seventy three

a famine struck in seventeen. Eighty three and has been uninhabited ever since, and there are a lot of local legends about the place. Some nearby villages don't even bother making rooftops. Oh my yet There's this superstition or common belief. We should call it that the moment a rooftop is built on a house. That's too close to the fort. The roof will inexplicably collapse, and normally this would just be a fun regional tall tale. Right, like me, manner something. But this is ancient. It's been around for a while and the government of India when official, with its warning, that's brilliant man, I tell you, this reminds me of something Some people know about it is very regional. Am I grew up in a town called Augusta Georgia, and not terribly far from there's a place called Murphy Village, where a group of individuals live their lives,

themselves as irish travellers, exactly sure what their exact background as but they live in a compound and they were sort of way we do our job. though, would like go on the road, and you know, do house, painting jobs, although the notorious for being kind of hucksters in trying to put one over on people, and yet you see, I often groups of them get the local mall or like movie theater arts. They have a certain look, they dress certain way. They have very large hair they're, like seems like they're from the 80s kind of like stuck in time I'm stuck entire rather, but you are not outsiders or are not permitted in Murphy Village. I've known some friends that tried to be a pop and take a look at the houses and they were chased out very violently with, like guns and stuff, but one thing that they do there is they build houses and they live then trailers behind them for a year or more than they over the windows and tinfoil

and in its bent to exercise the evil, spirits of some kind to keep them from no inhabiting the house, so they build these houses. Little live in them for a year. They literally in like almost like a camp type situation, our back and they have all these like special things. They do ritual is the kind of things and then they mean a move in the houses. After that, the successful cleansing period is asked interesting temporarily, soup, naturally restricted area robbing permanently restricted to us, but exactly the houses. There are restricted for a time for anybody to to enter so will you could Are you the one it has in common with being are for it is the idea of architectural based superstition, but you gotta have a roof. You get a roof. We does come of the roof, but wait what what I was getting out when I said the government of India when official with these warnings is that

There are signpost, have explicit instructions, any view translate from the Hindi. It says the, following entering the borders of longer, before sunrise and after sunset is strictly prohibited, legal action will be too, in against anyone who does not follow these instructions? Wait for it be warned before you step in the ghost town of India. That's all tantalizing, official government warning who do know you're, do without warning now you and me and everybody else. We have to go now. Well, we We can consider ourselves worn they done their due diligence, while also we don't- Let us speak were Red Hindi, so we always pull the dumb tourist which I am sure they love. Oh sorry officer I didn't know, I couldn't do that nice right. I think that I think there was always a good option.

sure, but there's another place. This is the only place over in ITALY, less than half a mile from Venice there's, a islands called the vaguely a plague island- and it also has a sinister spectral reputation if you are a fan of. the The reality shows that pretend to ass, the gate, paranormal activities and ghost near the ones they take like a w w e approach to plunging the depths of the unknown. Then you ve probably seen something about this plague, island from some team. Ninety three to eighteen, fourteen was used is what's called a lazaretto, which was a plague quarantine station. This was kind of similar to North brother, I island, but with We're doing is up. They were too people who were sailing in to Venice and because of fears of the plague

they were taken, the men they were holding them in a way that similar to the mandatory too quarantine. There was imposed on international travellers during the the hay day of covert its idea. But we also have to consider the plague is a completely different infection in comparison to covered. In that, that a lot of people who showed up at this lazaretto, though we're on their last legs. They were led stages. Played when they set off yeah. It's estimated that a hundred and sixty thousand infected individuals lived out their final days and hours even there, so there's out of rumour that about fifty percent of the soil their consists of human remains. This makes me think of those like girl, leper colonies, a little bit and over the years there ve been investigations at this and places where quarantine,

facilities, essentially or areas, and have their work. discoveries that there were mass graves in many of these areas and this one. At least time of this recording were talking you right now. It is yet to be fully investigated silly Amman, dug up a ton of the soil and actually done highly testing their to check. Those rumors human, remains or to find graves, mass graves or any kind of grace, but we did as you mentioned, Ben Paranormal shows love it. I dont, I can't remember ghost adventures has been there the one where there are like just come on he's trying to strong arm a ghost. You got to sweet talk, those sweet babies, you can't just yell at him. That's not cool, hey bro. They come on Bro, I'm right here, bro, I'm right! Amigos what goes that? What commercial

That was the snow was a sound of your toxic masculinity, red resonating through the space. So the thing is when it's important new here It is considered the quote most haunted citing ITALY, but that that's why the true believers, but onward can about investigations of other lazaretto we're talking about scientific investigations, archeologist are in the excavating these sites. It's not that it's not like a ghost hunter thing. No, but you know if you are average. Tourist citizen were curious. Explore entering this island is absolutely forbidden. Ghost or no, and here we draw to a close. This he's just scratching the surface fellow conspiracy realists each The job of classified area we ve explored today could well be the subject of its own episode in the future, and this brings us to you. What do you think

what are, in your opinion, some of the world's most dangerous sites or what are the most obscure? Are authorities correct to restrict access to these areas and perhaps, most importantly, what forbidden cites? Would you like to visit and why yeah, particularly if you know of something local to your area. Do we mention in this episode. We would like to hear about it and in as much detail as possible. That would be fantastic MIKE, you can reach us on Twitter and Facebook. We're we're conspiracy, stuff on Instagram conspiracy, stuff show you can and find us on Youtube. Also. spirits he stuff. if you dont, like the social media or Youtube which he should like Youtube you can always give us a call. We have a phone number, that's right. It's Wednesday, three std deadly White UK lay them the sound of benzene

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