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for neither first ghosts and government cover ups histories unexplained, you can turn back. Learning stuff will come back to the show. My name is that my name is no and I am most and poorly you or you at least. We hope- and that makes this stuff they don't want to know. Gentlemen. Today we are looking at something controversial to say the least. Yes, this is something has for him. It reactions on either side what we are going to try and do is tell you about it, explain the sides and give you a little. Thorkel background on- maybe some Mason context about why people would believe something like that.

And because so many of our best suggestions come from our listeners, a we went to twitter before recording this just a little bit before, recording it, as he sometimes do and asked asked you or you. If you Alison Twitter? When what we should address? What a water some points we should address, and we ve got a few nor man, if you as a cool and I'll read a few of them by all means our rights. Stewart Lucky ask us where in particular, do people supposedly recruit or higher crisis actors, or is it just done internally I'll get her and then We'll see propaganda do ask us how is a pretty Paraphrasing talk you, but you say that a conspiracy powerful enough to stage all these events and hide the truth can afford new actors.

Kobe says: what about the Photoshop abilities to age younger five people in image using conjuncture crisis actors? Are the videos dummies being stage position that Sandy Hook the Boston Men, video and you wonder why Tim Osman, one distraught woman who shows up a multiple cases and then also have let's copycats a bunch of these sites One woman died in two of them in the media, use the same, an image slightly crap unscrewed people will want to hear Sandy Hook and the father net, I D. Lastly, this not not related enjoy this one is lethal, fears. Music says I know, but could you please

no turn up his microphone, he's on the quiet or side, sometimes and hard to hear hashtag constructive? What I've? Never that before my life, people always made a pipe down. Yeah! Ok, ok! I can do that. That's on me I bought ass. I know it's on me production wise goes. I mean it's my job to fill the knobs. Obviously, maybe I'm just them. You know insecure and I wanna be quieter, but I'm an orphan. There goes the Jeff such agree Why thank you, then. I look forward to hearing more of it. Yes, so these. Are some of the questions that you have asked us. We can answer all of these, but we're gonna addressed some of them and one of the first place For us to start would be that at the time they are changing or they appear to write their disasters. Things like a cat turn on the news without hearing about a mass shooting, a terrorist attack. The other thing, I'm sorry going, list on you know there are increasing viral answers that are occurring now, though, I mean,

There are bad things on that that tv, you read it feed, perhaps in the level Twenty four hour news cycle gives us these. Just like loops of these things only happen in a free sample, the the shooting at the planned parenthood, the other week or several weeks ago. I just felt like I had story was developing. You just turn on the tv, and it's just like this loop of, like not information It is trying to full time some, while the other is the San Bernardino shooting recently, even even after that- and you know it I see the whole thing were news: crews, an end to the apartment. It is important to my stomach was one of the strangest things I've ever seen and clearly the producer present at the scene was uncomfortable with the what the journalist was attempting to do, which reside Jeanne private information, they snow, people's licensing, information and pictures of

drain and such was ridiculed on the daily show for right now. It seems like that one could be an episode into itself, because I've already been seeing things about how you know, Thirdly, they had not the scene and with some someone had to have given signed off, to allow those journalists to come in there. You know if it was still an active crime scene, there would have been tape up. They would not have been able to get in the way they had. Will you do me. The story, CNN told me, no go too long in this. Let me know if I am foreseen and told, was that the FBI had already gone in and taken all the evidence out that they needed that they thought was pertinent. True. The apartment was officially under the the person who owned the alarming complex she make it happen, We really fast yeah, you know absolutely it all. Just you and then You know on the news: you get analysis on essentially nothing, that's what I mean that doesn't work This whole thing I they just get it descends up baby,

this meant this minutiae like with the planned parenthood shooting weather we still at large, and there is really nothing to report. They just kind of get like these random experts to talk about the psychology of an active shooter situation from which I suppose can be used for information, but it just the other day feels like they're just filling out time and patting now their time, and it does not protect. We are encouraging right and how much of it is in the in the wake of the tragic event. How much of that news is manufacture. You know provision is an echo chamber. We talk about manufacturing, you get one of the big things that is tied up here in the crisis actor conspiracy theory, which is a false? Why attack so If you listen to the show or you watch videos, you know that we talk about false flags. Quite a lot. It's a topic that comes Very heavily in our sphere here and there

go over a false flag is essentially an attack that occurs when there's one group say group A is going to carry out an attack they don't want anyone to know that they are in fact grew bay, so they either disguise themselves dress in a way that could be, would dress up were fly. The flag of group be This was an old tactic in naval warfare. Wasn't it then? Yes, The term comes from naval warfare, wherein one ship would fly a false fly. Like those was not thrown. So so, for the sake of argument, hypothetically, let's say: that's the: U K and Spain are both on the eastern coast of what would later become. Do you did state and spanish spanish ship decides that they are going to attack a ship from UK

so what they do is instead of sailing up to and keep on. My knees were sailing ships in they will see each other coming has said with Asia. While we get their rights, what they do instead is they raise the british flag when they raise that than the other shit, the ship? Their attempting to two to Rob- says oh great, that oh wonderful, jolly good, Jolly good yeah, exactly jolly good, its fellow british policies, too you came here. We inherited a man may thereby bath and then once Then firing range or attack range boom, british flag down, spanish flag up work. This could be a pirate, a pirate practice. You know This also happened numerous times in more modern ages, especially in the maritime field, but not just in the water right.

Can I say to you that term false flagged. That's funny to me. It Harkin's back to a time where there were rules that were standards. You know you had a you flew your flag in the battle. For that you knew who your enemy was, and obviously warfare has, let's say, devolved into something much less sportsmanlike than that leave it. There anyway, you're absolutely right all about how warfare has changed and egg adapted in evolved over the years and their rather that's another podcast, we can talk about the how warfare has adapted for serve as interest them and the future of it. But then under point yes, naval warfare isn't the only place where false flags have occurred. There have. There are numerous examples. One of them occurred when Japan wanted to invade Manchuria earlier in nineteen thirty one, I saw to protect their interests to Japan

divide Manchuria because of a bombing in railway scald them looked in incident. However, Here's what happened, though, Japan planted the bomb. Whites and Japan blew up the railway or try to they didn't they didn't do the best job, but because of that, and so we have to pay tat. The South Manchuria Railway, which was japanese down so boom we have to be there to these. Are political maneuvers financial year spot on in their other stuff happens with. Enforces invading Poland through a series of false flags known as operation handler in this comes. You can read more about this in a fantastic article by step toward which had always agree with the desert. It does a good job, and it's just one of those things that We seem to be a way to get around

sure channel of getting something done right. It's it's this week. It's weird way of I dont want in it. It's like shooting your own foot, almost a lot of time, so that you can get the doctor that you really need to come in, they didn't want to come in or something you know. That's a pretty good, Ample I mean we're is held him stream, strange thing will its yes in its inactive. Arrest being urged carried to an extreme at times brutal degree. We know that false flag attack our real. We have a bunch of possible are debatable false flag attacks, The Gulf target is often called one of those, but the thing is that real proven false flag attacks are ass outnumbered by alleged false flag attacks right and we can see that there is still a debate about that

there are also. There is also the some disturbing had it when people say why I dont believe the official story. Therefore, this is a false flag attack This is one of the big pieces of the crisis at theory which brings us the question of the day right. What is a crisis actor, so a crisis actor is basically a person who is paid to role play or perform the part of a victim. Or antagonist or civilian or any other by centre in war games or disaster drills. So this means specifically, I guess, would refer to you knows. A staged event that is understood to be staged was incorrectly up. Smoking. German repaper, scratches actors are in fact real, and this is a definite thing in the you know, scenarios that were describing it. You can find different contractors in private companies, not just in the states, but in other countries.

That use actors to make these disaster drills and scenarios somehow more real. So, for example, like an active shooter drill in an office building, you got companies that come in and train workers. How to respond to enact the shooter scenario this company. Might source these crisis actors to come in either play the part of the shooter, be a plant, someone that works in the building to come to change things up, go for the wrong exit. Give you examples too. You know ignore, like obstacles, almost two million way in order to kind of like exercise what you ve been taught, and it doesn't I love these example, because it does not necessarily need to be a minute We think it could be. A private industry has really great point: I've gotta short story sure. You can just get your place or they can go really fast. If we want to see a company that does specialise in this is a legitimate company. Yes, a UK one Eyed, this is one of you.

Best examples that I could find called crisis cast dot com. It says on the website, quote our special We train professional role, play actors and internationally credited film crews, bring realistic, informed crisis management and disaster incidents to life and then they go on to talk about all the different things that they can do with stones, medical relations using film techniques to bring the best of theater and film to our life. Immersive simulations. They also the pretty interesting emphasis on social media. Image control in that way, which makes me think about. Is that like sock puppets that without as I am, I think, exactly verges on that. It also verges on information or narrative management. Probably when do you like? Oh Egypt, is going up in flames. When do you black out, the twitter

or even when, like an unpopular person, does like and ask me anything on, read it and you seem like people asking them really softball questions than have like newly created accounts and stuff. Maybe something along those lines gave very awoke at the wheel taken the course? I wonder what prices are we sign up? Yes, I'm thinking it's gonna be steep. My peace of mind outright will get a free trial, maybe there's a yeah, maybe the first ten minutes are free and there we just leave. So I'm it is true that kind of ties into this, because I first found about price factors actual crisis actors. In a Another life- they ll talk too much about my personal life and the show, so they can start now. Than to say that I worked it up that would handle various reports of disaster. From around the world, primarily in the western hemisphere and some of

These calls, which come from a place called forth Pulp Louisiana, and these people would call because they were injured. Work and new after was something minor, and He couldn't say too much about we're doing it was really the gist of our conversation what I learned is that they were civilians who were hired. You role play in these things happening at the door Readiness operation or something like that at for pork weight so you not informed us that it was happening in advance luggage you're just supposed to Yanks a call, as you normally would a phone would ring and you would answer it and they would say I'm calling this whatever the contractor is get a report century, and so the thing really started to shed some light in. It was our outrage.

And yourself, and you could tell that there were certain language there to use when describing it right. There was already a talking point, but didn't room for little things that made me, maybe maybe for say one person said a well. I was leaving the village thinking weird, you ha and I thought well. Louisiana is, on the whole another level, man, bigger villages a parishes. When I have villages were it may see, no, you get it. It made sense at the time justice throw in one more example. Here really fast. Did you as ever in your high school, do a thing called ghost out of you ever heard of this term but I'm entreat now, you may have done. They may have a true something similar, but not ghost out that field day. It's kind of like feel day by day most macabre version of it that you can imagine so in an attempt to prevent

natures who were just getting their cars from drinking in driving or driving recklessly in precise county. Where I went to high school, they did think I'll goes out where they would bring erect vehicle onto a field and they would have the actors at the school pretend that are sometimes iraqi or sometimes there are like really popular kid. Pretend like they had died or gone into this massive car accident, they'd get in the car. That's already crushed up a little bit, blood on them. You know some of them will be dead. Some of them would be barely alive all of the local police, and responders would show up and basically use the jaws white get the kids out of the car. They had performed CPR and some of them as others. They would put a body bag, put him into a body bag, and then be a marked funeral in all this stuff. I just that was a really weird. It was my first version of a crisis

kind of thing, because I was an actor back in those days and it took part in one of them and he was very, very strange to have a helicopter landing on your school, something that you know you don't see every day and it gives you the tension that something real is during. I just want to know if you guys have ever experienced anything like that Those who think that I have experienced that was. I remember when I was younger a lot of area churches Judaism, tribulation trail later, like, like church, haunted houses, and they will have like wrecked cars outside with like ghostly teenagers dead- and you know on drugs or whatever, and the devil The big part of a monkey would always be these scenarios that are presented to you at the end. The devil would pop out and they would be whole thing is how you but you're talking about them: just essentially the religious version of a haunted house, exactly gather was, moreover, sit dumping. What now on entering schools are going through drills for active shooters.

I mean this is a commonplace thing. My wife was a school psychologist, unforeseen quitted, the baby stuff, and they word everyone's while they would have a drill where the police are there and everybody's like huddled, room and locked down and everything it's an industry, I mean show that I work on the term is, as it has come out yet its anything. We we speak to a couple of folks who are former firefighters and police officers, who now run a company that trains office workers in how to react to actor shooter scenarios, and they were talking about how there was one day, years ago, where they had heard about one of these actors. Shooter scenarios be done in a retirement home without telling anybody that it was happening. We did it results in a lot of traumatized elderly folks. There are quite a few issues that are extremely

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see the entire populations. That is, that is the fury. The idea of when you hear people talk about crisis actor on the internet. There are most likely not referring to the scenarios we're just talking about that are proven to exist, and that is almost a hybrid of what we're describing. In terms of organizations hiring these actors to create these teachable moments, new document and those false flag attacks. So it's almost like using actors to manipulate public opinion. Entering the public web debatable in theory or teaching of going away to feel if this is true or teaching the public. Way to view a certain topic. It certainly frames. The discussion must radio, narrative management. I hears the gist ladies and gentlemen, that certain forces typically thought to be governments, a coalition of governments or a cabal.

New world order types pick pick your favorite are staging fate. Tragedies means sway in the population to support more extensive. Troll over the booty and in the common man or woman. So one of the things that you may hear a lot of the three of us have heard a lot, dear that mass shootings or some sort of stage development to justify the abolish meant of gun right snow. No not really pretty putting that disclaimer there at the beginning. Here we know this is a controversial thing and we know that people have actually died. Those are irrefutable. However, to say that We shouldn't to say the we shouldn't look at this concept. This idea defeats the purpose of this shit, absolutely sure doing it would dream respectful way. We know that this can be a dramatic topic for people this- is the gist of the story.

Rather examples to promoting a culture of fear that will make the population more amenable to to widespread surveillance right? Absolutely most theories have several layers of nuance depending on who is talking about them support him. You can hear different variation. He's on in force and Professor James Tracy afford a Pacific University is one of the leading advocates of the concept this guy crops up all over the place. When you look at crisis actors, the theories you will, I think he was a first source that I found, I think, from two thousand thirteen during sandy hook, shooting where he was discussing. These people are There's not discussing a huge receive, a saying, alleging yeah and eleven legend, evil we're actors and Yeah and proof here is where the debate hinges.

Folks who believe in this crisis accurate conspiracy idea we'll show side by side, photographic photographs I said photographic ever for this. It's like a photograph right I'm using too many, whereas this point is pixels, yeah, sure sure it's like the old Mitch Hebert job like every. My view is a photo of you when you were younger, but the US, but the point being that pictures of different reason, people from different tragedies and say ah This is the same person, yet in a lot of times. Will try and do I guess- sure versions of looking at the nose and in drawing shapes on the nose and the area with the other shapes, and I mean it's, it's people in Photoshop that are attempting to see In my opinion, a lot of times what they want to see. I see no I've got. I've got a point for thou into

back toward the earth. Some of the other proof or stuff offered a group will be. Errors and early reporting or when the story changes that happens a lot which, because of it new cycle that I was talking about. I'm gonna make sense just like. Logistically people are trying to rush to be the first one to report the facts of one of these crises because people eat it up in a super huge for ratings. I mean people glued to the tv set on these things happen, and so there is this. Like total breakneck, you know race to be the first one to report the story and in that process get lost in the shuffle all the time, and it is also true to be absolutely fair. It is also true that news stories can get. I can get suppressed happened. You know, I think the old averted the Friday night news dump no the Friday afternoon, used up. Yes, This is why, ok, if ever you have news that you have to announce which don't wanna get a lot of it,

can. I know a lot of eyes. Will you do? Is you wait on Friday afternoon no one gives a flying ferfitchkin again about why you might be discussing. Certain like that? Those handful of months in the year when Hollywood studios release movies, they know we're going to be dogs and they all screen them critics Nan. They just kind of wanted, just shove them out there and then basically through them on the ground in Britain, I've ever what are they call those the dump one or two years. That's that's another kind of proof that, after that, the news get something wrong which, as we see, is debatable. Absolutely a third news would be that the people who see an interview, for instance, are not themselves swayed it that the person is real implicate being that, not only is this crisis actor but it's also a bad actor. And based on this interview, I the one bringing the truth enabled

you because either one bringing the truth. Then, sir, in an amazing judge of character- and I can tell you that our people react probably due to a experience in my life or an anecdote with which I am familiar. I a fair way to say that is a very fair way to say it. A lot of the accusations that come through are of people who are interviewed after a tragedy. Europe's way and then you ll see blood pose this. You know, did you The reaction of this father of this slain trial you see the reaction of this person, who was supposed to be exact during these bodies and how callous they were in their discussion. There are laughing and that's where a lot of it, I had a lot of it. At least I seen comes from there I've seen I've seen standards of that interview, so I familiar the one you're referring to there are more. There are multiples from different tragedies, ok, multiples from

tragedies wherein there is? I got a family member, let's say of someone you who died, who just seems like maybe they're not morning as much as they should be, at least according to the the blogs. Are your red? Ok, because I didn't know who is the am I don't know if it was if the EU was you and specific work were just talking about those general accusation which I know the general mutations. Owing to me, it seems like a lot of that can come from this rush to gets report dine on these things, whether it with experts or whether its with eye witnesses and kind of a comical example of how easily this can happen is on the italian network. There was a supposed expert talking about Edward Snowden. Getting a twitter account man the whole time this. This Ankara's buzz is interviewing him he's describing Edwards

her hands her well and, like he says quote. Casting amount is just completely wrong just because he was created on top of a mountain by Vincent Price As your expert said to the expert said- and he says you know. Edward Snowy, other energy setting out it was just its it wasn't until he poked a hole in the water bed with his scissor finger, the people started to turn on him and he sang always things in this. This anchors just smiling a naughty, and it just goes to show that, like I mean people are pretty easily duped even like who are thought to be profession I can imagine the version interviewing him or her thinking. That. Oh maybe this is tech. You know no jumble that I dont get oh yeah, in the water, but with the also here, maybe their thoughts were occupied, maybe maybe we are aware, but they couldn t, There was delayed area

at ass. If you were the anger, I think everybody listeners, you probably agree if you were the anchor, wouldn't feel like it's a great opportunity to earn some credibility. I stopping One might think it domains in that situation depends on when you were born, because that there's a us away very small window, where there He was highly important, true name in that window. You're in the window loan that when you know what you are you guys with you, ok, so let's get into a couple specific examples of when the crisis actors of an alleged to be at work. The first one is during the sandy hook, school shooting in two thousand twelve December. Fourteen thousand twelve, an official stories that Adam Linzer acting alone, went in and killed twenty six people, twenty of which were age. Six to seven at the sandy hook, elementary school in new town Connecticut. Now. This is, by all accounts, a a tragic like a horrible thing that occurred

there are a lot of people who say that it didn't actually occur and that's where these theories started come in. There are all kinds of theories about what happened that day. No one died or that bogies. I did a wider theories ranging from accusations that Adam lands, it wasn't, the actual shooter Lenny was perhaps a scapegoat or that there were multiples other shooters there were the ones, truly doing the killing. Ranges all the way to the military was somehow involved too in in really there's there have so many. If you want to learn more about that stuff, we have a video called sandy hook, questions claims and questions. Are you can check that out and learn more about the overall sandy hook? Can sphere is truly do that, but but to get into the crisis actors version of this? What one of the prominent

things people were saying is that the whole thing wasn't real. It was all some kind of staged event where all the teachers and the kids, the parents, even the medical, examiner, they're all actors in their putting on a play and essentially a drill that then got films by these tv cameras and the tv crews, and he got turned in to a real event and a couple of these specific examples within this specific example or what fathers of one of the children who died. His name is Robbie Parker and he gave a press a press conference cash. I think it was on the fifteenth of December of that year and p

all when he first walks out he's kind of laughing with people that he's talking to before he walked up to the MIKE any smiling and at least according to the blogs, he appears to get into character almost if you're gonna be in a performance and then talks about his child is done. They just died, and on the surface of it I have to say personally I was a bit I felt weird about watching. It didn't feel right to me, but that, not mean you mean he came off disingenuous. It's not humor, disingenuous it was just eat. It didn't if some didn't feel right, isn't ring true and fair and just because away this man is dealing with the trauma of losing his daughter, different from the way that I would probably deal that doesn't mean that this man is an act, not only that even think about what it would mean to not only go through that trauma to have to go through it in the public eye and be propped up for a press conference?

I mean that would require some amount of current go getting in character. You know I mean it sets out an my can't. Even imagine another point, that came under scrutiny, while this is all going down like a major before? Is the medical examiner, Mr Wayne Carver, the second, He also gave an interview to a bunch of press and he was discussing what he found formed from when he went the school from when he was doing. Autopsies on some of the victims and the guy just comes off is extremely Kalis. It seems like he didn't just experience all of these horrifying things that you just experienced, but perhaps I mean because of his role of what he does every day,

it's. Maybe he is a better and more guarded against the motions of this kind of situation, and you have to be it's like being a being detect ever being a policeman first responders any kind. You have to be a little bit, not callous, maybe a little bit clinical. You have the kind of like. Just act and you can a silly let the emotions of the situation affect you. Otherwise, you might make a mistake. He might not dead. Do things correctly when I follow the correct procedures that you have the kind of look at it a very clinical procedural away at, but I just have to say again: and personally, when I remember watching this- and I watched it again for this progress, there is something off in n. It feels just strange when you're watching these some these interviews, so then, why couldn't they get better actors? I dont know Ben

I'm just asking like the ito. If it is a matter of salesmanship interception when they go for the cream of the crop, or at least some one marginally convincing. If that is the case, I would tend to agree Benbow. Let's, let's go really quickly. At least let's have a thought experiment about what it would take for you to do. This working from home conference calls. You saw me and John with everything we have going on right now. It's never been more important to sleep. We need quality. Sleep is a natural amused and only the sleep number three six, this mortal scented your movements and automatically just confidence appoint on both sides justly number setting. So all those other things were doing this. They help me and happy well network, better job and now, during the lowest price of the season, the queen sleep three sixty C4 sport. That is only twelve. I do not say port at all: it's only for a limited time to learn more go to sleep number dotcom. What if you could make yourself happy every day in every aspect of your life, there is a well known,

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happened knowing that it wasn't true and knowing that you are going to convince the world that it was It's interesting that you bring at that point mad, because that something was alluding to earlier. When we talk about the proof, as far as multiple people showing up in the same indifferent, as are the same and showing multiple disasters cause, how reasonable easy to say that There is some vast overarching, conspiracy involving hundreds in some. This is what thousands of people all manage to keep a secret and be able to brilliantly execute something like this. Despite a rough around the edges, proof that people believe they are found and then yet still say, we're gonna use the same people absurd. It's just

the believe ability factor for that, for that alone is very low to me just objective, and if someone can accept me why there would be such an elaborate, difficult, execute plan relied on. Using these same looking, people over it over. What I mean it's expending said billion dollars on a submarine programme getting in the water and saying you guys think the screen It's gonna be a problem. It has now, if I think this resource, fine man, but I like you, I think,

really good job, explaining that sandy hook. Example, armies and the whole time. You are doing that. I just feel myself be now getting just a little nauseated that that some one would think that, because I just doesn't make sense, it doesn't add up and if such an intensely tragic thing to have happened, especially you know, if you ve got a loved one, sewer It's our kids yourself. Just to think that someone really truly believe that that was a staged I just I just find it did sort of is a little bit. Oh yeah, kicking, imagine being of a like being other that you and I are sorry. Then I'm fine, I know have when either I guess what you're talking about feeling a little off about the fathers in a press conference again, I just can you

you'd be losing your mind? You wouldn't know how to act on your basically thrust on this podium and told to impute for the cameras. There's probably so many thoughts going on so many a kind of a cat intuitive emotions you're like, on the one hand you want to honour your choice, when you want to act as a source of information for people. So there like competing motivations and it would just get caught up in this maelstrom, and I can't imagine two like centre yourself and prepare to do that. I mean I, would they be acting real, real weird? What are the effects of shock? I just want to make a point there, this guy after going through all that they imagine going home in on your facebook, or you know, you're getting emails are getting calls, ok, We know you're an actor. We know what you do Your daughter never died like that other level of going through that

what you're describing it's on a par with the Holocaust denial to me. Well, so the the other interesting thing here as well? Is that. No, it's gonna sound like I'm. A dense you guys are saying, but I want you to explore. That feeling right now that feeling being profoundly offended and think about how that affects a decision, because there there is a desire. Turn here- and we saved ITALY into the episode of this- is just imagine the catchphrase if you wish, when people are when people are acting under the reins of emotion and sat there. It there's this need to strike out against an injustice right. A need to make the world

right again after was so profoundly skewed gnats, where we get to something? That is that I think is equally disturbing. Forget the crisis actors real right. We know about the ones that are made right to see this way this issue in the office where the crisis. There's that are alleged people have all around, and some kind of twisted, carnival faking disasters right according to the people who believe that say in the middle, there's something that I think is just as disturbing in its equally real something like crisis actors do exist and they play a key role in the murky world of propaganda. One of them helped justify invasion in the Middle EAST her name when she was giving your testimony. Nurse scenario to justify invasion in Iraq.

Decide. This person was talking about a rocky atrocities atrocities on behalf of the iraqi Army. I will read report I volunteered at the in the hospital with twelve other women who wanted to help as well. I was the youngest volunteer, the other women were from twenty to thirty. Old while I was there, I saw the iraqi soldiers come into the hospital with guns they took the baby's out of the incubators, took the incubators and left the children to die on the cold floor here at last, put she's crying. It was horrified, so it turns out that one she's, not a nurse no two she's dead. The kuwaiti ambassador to the U S and that the incubator stuff wasn't true It also turns out that use, probably working in concert with a PR group called Hill and Norton, and it

although it was not clear right now how much her testimony is coach, they were there. Some pretty compelling reports, they Helen Knowlton provided witnesses. Their testimony and coached the heck out of him, then here's the other thing it pretty much worked. Didn't a well what history would say, because at the time the emotional atmosphere based on this atrocity can help people to say no, it acquainted, saying this story doesn't add up to becoming a fan of pulling children out of income behaviors and passing them on a hospital floors. Yeah. How could you speak against the story when it was any right, because his motion of now I only say that, because it's interesting and with I'm gonna go out and say it guys understanding where what

I understand the offensive. Nature of the whole theories were the approach people are taken with those theories, and nor am I with you. I think that there is a certain amount of offensiveness just in the lack of empathy or the lack of consideration when people would actually died. These so we're talking about are not our hawk scenarios, where someone stubs their thumb, pretending to be a villager right, he's dead people, men, women and Children- I'd in many ways were execute, were murdered and too in the end, this very valid argument that to explore this kind of thing, or to accuse people who somehow survived the tragedy of being charlatans?

it means not only then by degrades the value of the life's lots. I figure a sort of up slightly less extreme example that happening right now, can be found in some of the things presidential candidate Donald Trump finds himself saying. In describing groups of volume of of Muslims having tailgate parties watching the war traced in its collapse completely unverifiable, no one's found any footage of it, but he won't back down from it and it's just a way of dividing people and is something that people who share his respect. Perhaps I can latch onto and use it to while their anger and I think a lot of these alleged incidents of crisis actors. Could be intended to do the same thing and like what you're talking about with their lives,

nurse Maria clearly an attempt to shift public opinion, and that can be done in small and large ways- and I think you know trump- is a good example of a bit of a propaganda machine. In our me a lot of things he says: oh yeah, verified. We ve heard some great, though not yet to political, but we have heard some fat, fantastic and fascinating conspiracy theories typically about Donald Trump, and specifically you about we'll Bernie Sanders Nellie plan as well as giving pretty much all of them, and we have a pretty. We have a pretty cool, episode about the federal election Commission, which goes a long way, and I personally believe that one which goes on way towards explaining. Why is it so difficult to

control from the dichotomy of the two parties system, yeah third parties, have no chance. Basically, when it comes to getting time on television, debates, yeah, it's it's! It's tough! Where you can go watch a video. Draw back to their video. I would say: is that knows not in it the ashes you- and I am the Burundi What's the matter with them, whatever hell, we did a great job of you see it. We we both we takes its campaign? No, no, no! You dig into the back catalogue. It would have been good just then we could have done a real third party sure it would have a really good. If I'd remember two red tie clause in the video we are both wearing blue eyes. If you, like husband, at the time. I think I only around one tie. No eight as such, rather to one is black: that's you wake up

which is not really taken she's even outside as they did. I was. I watched a great episode of future on my last night, where it was about a present election for president of the world, and all three candidates were clones and they were in the same exact out that have the same exact voice and I had the privilege. Opinions we ever so slightly tweets and then the third party and that it was a robot Richard next with the he had stolen vendors body just now That reminds me absolutely of a great a great book which I recommend called the Illuminato trilogy have you heard about the oh yeah friend of mine, just turn me into it, and I've been meaning to up to really dig into it. Oh, it's it's pretty darn Written by a guy named Robert, she a guiding Robert Aunt and Wilson, which a lot of you guys out their listeners were already recognised. That second name I mention this because there's a part in that there's a part in that book, where there,

describing LEO of the world and it doesnt having consecutively there will be? One leader is like the President of the United States. One leaders present somewhere else whatever and what they did was so clever is take these same exact, paragraph any change it so they know it's about the one person and it just occurs in the book. Not I was brilliant plus you know, it's saves time on. Writing is another. Didn't you inspire the Illuminati the game effort. I feel like that. Around heard everywhere for yeah. I can see them being tied together, but no no oil is for anyone who wants to read it. I do check it out. I know it looks like a hefty tone. It's a pretty it. It's a pretty fast free to what, if he doesn't have anything else I feel like we should maybe do.

Listen, airmail yeah! This one is from Melissa, hi guys. I love the show, but lately you keep doing that thing. Where you pose questions that you don't answer on the ghost. I guess you're discuss whether Christians believing goes but did any information I am it drives me crazy. You guys I've been so good about it so far. Maybe you could try to keep track of when that happens, and at an extra section at the end after you ve checked it out. That is all on me a lately. I feel like I've just been Willy nilly, posing questions that pop into my head and something We do get away from the answers. I do think, though, that man had a good point about whether Christians, believing you're, not in simply because of you know the fact that they have the holy ghost and the Holy Trinity and the idea of the afterlife feels like maybe more prone to believe and ghosts, and I was kind of where we left it, but probably a little more search into that would be appropriate in

question is in question worth asking is worth finding an answer to that's my response on it and I'm I'm excited about the idea of setting up. Something a segment wherein we could address things like that maybe beyond lesser mail, but the only way to know that is for is for listen. Responds respond like you just did militia and we appreciate it, and we certainly appreciate the time Listening to the showed no promises course, because this shows a work in progress, but we're gonna keep an eye on that, and thank you again for writing. As somebody else have lists, are male really fast, open and say thanks to Edward, for sending sending over a killer track was awesome, use responding to you about. The guide sounds documentary that you made any sent over a track called encounter at rule nineteen. Ninety four, it was great.

I loved it. Have you not heard this? He had not heard this. He all men are all player on the package I dont know. If there any copyrighted. Seven, there are things he made a made, a body samples, some fleets I dont know so Edward you have to get back to us. Complete Edward. I'm sorry. I didn't hear that I will definitely go digging through the air, the olden boxing and must give that when I listen to thanks for listening and thanks for responding, I'm glad you like the Guy Stones Doc. So if you want to join in this conversation and all the conversations that we have here the future. You can contact us. We are all over the internet. We are on twitter, we're on Facebook, conspiracy stuff at both of those. You can just send us your suggestions. Most of our best suggestions come from you guys and we were like hearing from you like hearing feedback like snow. You think

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