Antarctica is one of the most mysterious places on the planet. If the ice melted, what would we find beneath?
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Have you ever so remains of relieving, while this is gonna, be the new favorite. So there's this book that I
really enjoy called the ATLAS of Remote islands and
M for everyone who is a book lover in the audience and there's nothing.
Would not been ample clever costs. A lot of books are terrible, let's face it.
There are so many Athena. I mean we're not paid to be someone's english teacher. We don't have to pretend that every book is amazing. The world is just lousy with books that you know
we're not going to be your favorites, it doesn't mean
that they themselves are objectively. Bad just means enough for you suffer it in every.
Often you run into something on the other side of the spectrum, a book that
is so amazing that you
can't even hold onto it, because you continually give it to other people saying I will you please check this out. This reminds me of you.
Whatever you say, we cannot become
part of your worldview. Almost almost
and the ATLAS of Remote islands, which is.
More of aid travel log than an actual atlas. It's it's just this book of up to fifty Mb
and very small islands and a small one to two paragraphs story about their history.
While I was reading this book at least the first time when I became really captivate
Were the islands in the southern hemisphere? Not just you know that
this scattering sparsely popular
The tiny islands in
the oceanic area, but also any
more so the inhospitable.
Erin Places, the closer you get to Antarctica
more, it seems as though the net
World is telling you turn back
you know and that's what we're talking about today. We are talking about an article, the most mysterious continent. That's right,
Let's get to some of the facts, so Antarctica is the fifth largest continent in the world is roughly twice the size of Australia, which
Australia's pretty big everybody. So that's a lot of
ice covered, lands,
its home to seventy percent of the world's fresh water supply and ninety percent of the world's fresh water ice and displaced
really cool, it's curly, the coldest
And the windiest continent it
possession possesses the highest average elevation of any continent, which
Greece. Edges means its follow those mountains yeah, that's another, that's another interesting thing, because ninety eight percent of the land Mass of Antarctica is covered with ice and if it
have the highest average elevation if it did not have those mountains, then Iraq.
Would a hundred preserving covered with ice? Well, maybe ninety nine or something big just because there will be some on the coast, I insist
places met. This ice is three miles thick she's, so
paraphrase so many horror movies. What lay beneath
We know relatively little about this, and this week we looked at what people might find beneath the ice if it all melted away the ice in Antarctica
was in two large categories is the western sheet eastern sheet?
stands all across the land like some person and medieval fairy tale, and
also into the surrounding ocean. So what we'd like to do is talk a little bit about some of the free.
Theories and some of the concepts that you will hear related to
article n. It touches on so many other things, some of which we ve covered before and a couple of which I would consider our greatest hits or some my favorites
Yes, and one of those is climate change. This is one that really gets our audience riled up one way or the other, and you
I'm in a state. This point, then, I'm since it climate change, is real. This stuff's getting out of hand and rugged. I will of course, climate change
is real because climate change over time. I think what a man made climate change, real is our fault and we're he added
enterprise seen right the its destiny
same thing, you can always- I don't know, I think it's so clever what people do in the this
the televised debate, debates where its they do
thought terminating cliche me. Let's call it climate change.
Is we record in this this week. One of the big things are, the big things in international affairs be d:
iranian nuclear deal in everyone's like nuclear deal, nuclear deal nuclear deal, but you have to dig yourself, define the exact details,
haven't you have to go onto the internet and search the mainstream. News is not really say telling the deed.
Elsa stuff. The? U else just while one
a rarity in this just gonna, be so brief, but
I understand when people get very
very emotional and angry about their there
near what they see as the facts. Right and someone could we get letters all the time when someone says well,
the change you again, another
buzz word right, because what we're talking about is
is much more intricate, but one
I'd spray, every specific things that are occurring right, exactly ocean acidification, stuff like that things that have been proven beyond rising sea levels, right right,
and people were really arguing over the degree of it and the cause of it, but just throwing
as words of people carry hacks the brain to get past
cognitive ability and straight into the primitive reptile brain stuff,
where all the sudden, the person who believes
the changes, not man made or believes you know that some great
Lizard Messiah is going to emerge from a volcano beneath the ocean, whatever I'm seeing it doesn't matter what
We believe in theirs how you believe- and I support that belief and
makes me it makes features so
between
Rice of Lee amused.
And incredibly sad. When I see people get
for Super emotional, about a thing and think that you know if I yellow
his person enough. If I'm
angry enough, then it'll mare
we have to ask yourself? Are you trying to persuade the person, or are you just trying to get caught up in a pitchfork party?
Are you trying to express your belief
I or reinforce your belief by yelling, oh yeah, yeah yeah, that's all we should look at those cyclist
if no unto you know that's one will begin
baseball your that's one show that I pitch for brain stuff,
the show I do and day after we discuss the production teams.
Stay. They didn't want me to do this episode, but it was why you can't win an argument on the internet and of the great over sir
eggs while we do it yet her boys, okay, so aside from that that ran their the forces of climate change clearly have
impact of the planet and our continuing a pace and wood.
A little bit now about tee the thing you about your bring up, does you can't I?
answer to go without my eyes and can talk about large amounts of eyes without talking about climate change. Right, yes,
so with climate change. Where we're talking about.
The things that really are happening like I can imagine earlier sea level
really arising
you're going to rise more in the future, or at least they are projected to do so
now, you might also hear people claiming that answer
to go loses ice at sometimes, and then it gains it back at other times, but
There's a little bit of a discrepancy there. So the whole thing
This whole idea hinges on a bit of a misunderstanding. Think
think of ice entered in Antarctica as coming into different types. So you ve got your land ice annually
you're sea ice.
Now the sea ice itself is seasonal. It grows in the winter as it gets cold. Her then
were received just a little bit in
as a guest. Warm work. I mean you can disappear almost completely over summer, but it's still a saw there
it just its.
Like a evacuated,
comparison, it's gonna Lake,
person who may be
loses his weight. Their variations aware there a range of essentially a range of weight. Yeah yeah,
the Antarctic. It takes on during the winter and are they gonna get some waterway here? There's that executive? Yet
like you, were saying, there's, there's a different kind of ice right. Yet the land, the land is, is very differently this stuff in Crete, slow
Over time and it here
problem is disappearing. Now you have to imagine that the land, the ice, that's on land as
is melting. Its increase
the amount of water of liquid water. That's in the seas, right,
the amount of frozen
water, all right
in the sea is part of the volume of the ocean. Absolutely that is that the sea ice there were locked him up. So, let's slits advance this for
because there are probably some people were already say. No, no, no, I told you don't get it well. We are
We have a plot was here that a lot of people,
be aware of this.
In land eyes cannot be attributed
only to a changing climate, for instance, we get.
Its glacier is large
rapidly changing outlet of the West and Arctic ICE Sheet and it's it's been
who did by the ocean sure, of course, but it also being melted by a different, a different thing, NEA from below from the geothermal heat, that's being forced through it
that match me Ben presents a whole other issue. Yeah
another feather boxcar badgers
yes, the boxcar badgers that are heating up the earth from the inside. What's going on all other boot of birds bag, the roots tat can of jealous,
Are you do this all there? Okay, so yeah that you can check
a study by researchers at the Institute for GEO Physics at the University of Texas at Austin, or you t, I e
those of you love an acronym, Annette
in Journal called the proceedings of the National Academy of Science
so they found. They found that despite the pie,
pillar debate? As usually happens, there are other factors at play and it's not just a yes or no thing. It turns out that deal there,
energy is
furthermore, heat rather is
changing the nature,
of the continent. One thing we should say about entire together,
three of Antarctica. There's just amazing is it will,
only been an ice cover continent for about thirty five million years, which
a bit long in the two thrice by in it green scheme of things. That's lake, that's bad! We get
and if you totally come back, I used to be a sub tropical thing. That looks a lot like the modern day, Pacific Northwest for anyone who spend their cool beautiful place, their people
still aren't sure what happened
five million years ago because apparently, just in the scheme of things, the way this ice cross, the land cover the
these happen very quickly.
We don't know, we don't know what happened and we don't know exactly how and
ago works for lack of a better.
Is sure we're not for lack of trying. Though we ve set up, we the human species,
set up research facilities across the land income places. You don't want one
things that I found freely interested
was who owns Antarctica,
CS. I end when you look on you can find the maps of the segments that answer to the woods,
because it goes from the south, polar the, I think it's the actual
I can't remember if it's the actual self poor or the magnetic somewhere. I think it's the ceremonial love for the you're. Talking about the
Arctic tree right, yes, sign in Washington on ten December of nineteen, fifty nine by twelve countries to the people who signed it,
just the twelve countries who scientists have been.
Around down there, they were they were.
Active doing. What's called the international geophysical year of fifty seven, fifty eight, I saw it
because a tiger pie Chart Yale with all the flags range rounded yet did the treaty itself is
then we can talk about in detail
I do. I do now argue India later we can do all we can do. It was delayed by the way. I'm sorry, I just start thinking imagining it who actually gets the study which parts in the end, if you're gonna get different research
on the northeastern side, that's very different from the research
on the subway. If there's a there's like a good neighbourhood of Antarctica, hurry Mary realize I don't know, I imagine if you're a biologist that answers absolutely true. May I guess depends on your field of study right sure. Today's absurd is brought by. I began
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I will go. There was an expedition that you and I talked about a few years back actual. We should get into that
laser spoiler anyway, just the sort of geothermal energy if human beings build
in its settlements on the continent of Antarctica and get rid of the ice? And yes, yes,
where the emails come in by
Minutes settlement I mean, like a nation state,
I dont mean array
Search Centre, which is a beautiful thing, but does not a country make and the, but if, if people ended up actually
an Antarctica to if we're gonna be
nationalist, the USA. Yes, where do you think? That's all
and insurance
yeah USA, just by the buys Antarctica
some other large corporations. Google owns Antarctica so anyway, these people
easily end up power in their society by geothermal energy, which sounds like science fiction, but is totally possible. I'm now imagining the aid
really goes through endless boroughs through the three miles of ice makes giant walls to keep the ice away.
As a civilization, that's kind of surrounded by these ice walls array
living inside the war ivy at hand. In some.
To the similar to the native american groups yeah. So the thing is its assets fiction
happening now just in a different country, o Iceland
not the big eyes walls, but iciest. Iceland derives the majority of its power from geothermal energy. So so it's completely possible, but it's also.
HU, the nuances of and the Antarctic Climate or the long term effects are
Still largely there, there is still some question,
The answer is yes, because this geothermal stuff is
relatively recent release, our understanding of it and the effects of this long term effects can anyway, I guess we we still don t exactly know
What happened thirty five million years ago were catching up with people
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They may be listening now, anyway,
Anyhow tangents abound in this episode. Let's move to one of the worst was cut straight to the chase, one of the,
Besides, we did early on in our career together.
Nazis in the hollow worth. Yes, the idea that perhaps the or there is the idea that there is a civilisation that exist below the crust of the earth and the
crazy as it sounds that there is some type of inner star that powers, the civilization beneath us
and there's a powerful civilization that can that the Nazis at least thought? Perhaps a small group of the Nazis? Yeah thought could come a come
from the bowels of the earth and help them win their battles because
as the national socialism factions of national socialist, a K Nazis today, as they knew
with a strange, isn't: Mystic really
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totally area
I totally n down for the cause and re Ray and cared about what is happening. Oh yeah, between in these political, political,
movers, so we did find without
check out our video on the topic is that it is true.
That stuff you see on the history channel can be often disingenuous, but it is true that
since the Nazi Party had an intense belief in the occult which was
about where the the animal, the fool society,
yeah and the
even real and trying to reconstruct this new mythology, and there really were there really were government financed quest to find things.
Like these hidden mystical lands like
the lie.
The LA hand or in the case of Antarctica, an entrance to the underworld. Yes, yes,
and there was there was actually a plan to
colonise part of Antarctica
a means of expanding the German
Wailing industry at the time
and that leads bloody, supposedly Ellie, supposedly era in Yugoslavia. By as we out as we learn
as you can see.
Look into some of the historical documents, available,
no one, no one found any entrance
start to see: there's not an extensive possible cave system in
an tardy girls either. Most definitely is just because of the ice, yet nothing
the time and then re freezing the melting and raising the way caves form oh yeah yeah, so there might be
something there, but we have at this boy. We have little evidence of
We know a little bit about
What kind of life might be there, but we know very little about it.
We do also have another thing we should bring up now. I think we d never surrender to match this belief in the
national socialists, Nazi Party, exploring
can t take over Antarctica ties.
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little known story in: U S
we as well right up
nation high jump, you say yes, are we chased them very? We at least followed the Nazis down towards Antarctica. Let's do
oh, let's get a movie version of it. How we are you? How would you say them if you're, if you were pitching the movie version,
operation, Hydro, biology, Jpg me! Ok,
wherein the elevator we I've got five seconds hurry, Galleria I'll help you pitch still a signal is no, is physical director is directed at you
other than no. He s we saw an aside. I used to be someone else.
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be able to sell his movie right God. Yesterday he got Elvis
the work of the operation of a job
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Obey so figures that I got this idea for movie. Think united.
Military John Navy Giant Ships Right
and you got nazi ships to write the so there
this one section: Nazi ships, United.
Is Navy, other ships hidden towards Antarctica right,
then they get into these battles were well we're gonna make I'm gettin battles because we need explosions, Rebecca ok. So what else then oh
Yes, good there. I think that I think he would go on boring, Sofie explosions,
naval ships. Now ten, these ships transform yeah. Oh yes, I know you have our ship
I remember who did battleship was Oliver Stone? How God
I guess it's.
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China can. In truth, we could tell us
great stories about high operation, I jumped the thing is they would not be the truth. A wicked leaks,
it has been involved in bringing our easily enough bringing up
I are related to the activities at the time so, firstly, cycle what operation hijab actually was supposed to be
I was led by a guy named Richard E bird. He was a rear, admiral
of the: U S, Navy.
Their mission was to establish a research base,
the official mission with you
charming name of Little America for nice.
Little America for there's this globally,
interesting, postcard right, and so, according to the official,
Maybe naval report, at least they had objectives at six objectives. The second of those was this idea of cancer,
dating extending serenity over as much of the antarctic as they could make sense? That's what we do. That's what
As with people who seem to be quite fond of, but the the wickedly
ports seem to similar prove that
The underlying motivation for this was
not so much Lee.
National Socialist Party, but the Soviets Party,
the USSR, because operation hide
occurred in forty six and forty seven, so that would be
after World WAR Ii. Already the tail end right after we were too is concluded and
the reason. The theory that we we ve often heard is that while nazis regrouped too
replace in Yugoslavia and operation
I jump was part of a secret wore a secret atomic war or something. But
It seems to be more of is more evidence that
immediately after world war to the cold war began emir, if even
before it ended rarely re. Even
for it ended in there. There are different in their different interpretations of that opera.
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We get one of the most exciting things, they did them
exciting thing about this stuff people fell. Fossils, intend Arctic. I swear. I smells.
What also reunify one of their kind of life is gonna, be there living life
we're just more fossils,
We know that all the fossils
had been found so far at least dollar
once when you think, if large flora and fauna
dinosaurs, I'll just say it. Dinosaurs, tell we're dinosaurs. We're going to find me
find a dinosaur civilization, who all the fossils
so far, the majority are from margins of coastal islands exposed not right places net because those, if
places that all have like miles vice over them.
Has the Cotonou is not always so cold because it was a sub tropical
I'm it for so long.
We know that there had to be an abundance of life. I was looking for the right word.
They didn't have a cursory so doing
cretaceous period it didn't Roy warmer lusher climate and that Cretaceous
so two hundred and forty four million years ago. It ended sixty five million years ago and those fast
are pretty exciting. Just the few things we ve seen in scientists have identified a handful of dinosaurs species that they think are you if not uniquely antarctic have been identified.
At least as as something that would have lived in an article, not just like single animal, but that indicates larger population. However, what you said just then, was
for the most exciting thing why
why not just be looking for relics of life gone by. We
find living things, life and action here.
Yeah everyone who knows the size of these things. It would probably be much smaller. I grew level
micro, level, life or even bacteria, maybe a little bit larger than that, because there are other places that we can can appoint to that
Someone like Antarctica anyway,
one place in particular
we know of might hold these things. Are these keys?
It's already been looked at a bit. It's this play
that you may have heard of called the lake involves stock its this procedure,
freshwater lake. That's buried tuna.
Miles below solid ice, that's three point: seven kilometers by the way,
everyone outside of Namibia and me, and it's about
the size of Lake Ontario one of the great lakes. Here in the U S, and it's the largest of the more than two hundred liquid lakes that are strong across Antarctica. Right, yes,
that ice there is more than simply stone.
The fossils and dead things
in the other ass lakes, man, freshwater lakes that are liquid, and what we ve learned is that these lakes,
created when again the geothermal heat, the energy from Earth CORE notes, the bottom
of the ice sheet. This may be counter intuitive to some folks, but the thick blanket of ice on top.
Says installation these lakes don't get out much
no, they don't they just kind of
the animal they're they're happy they liked the quiet life and ass. Perhaps why
an isolated for hundreds of thousands
millions of years there
Anyone something's isolated that long.
Familiar with the
evolution creepy. In my opinion, the creepy evolution of cave.
Creatures, snow, yeah, then
Oh, that hundreds of thousands
well. More millions of years gives creatures space to adapt, oh yeah, and so
You know, as you can assume, scientists are really excited to get into these lakes likely cross start and really do is mushroom
just possible, go as deep as you can into awaken just exe
worth as much as possible. Can can you imagine being scientists in discovering perhaps even a new type of life at the bottom of one of these lakes
yeah yeah, I believe the academic version of tiny west you could drop all makes yelling
people at me up
readings? I would interrupt people's fine,
present everything arab peoples presentations on their findings,
then, if you found microbial fright, but what if you found something bigger in the rivers? Lakes
yes, so here yet so scientists
Every to collect water samples from lake lost again
this was relatively.
Controversial, because what we are essentially doing when we
Something like that is that we are breaking the seal on something ancient right, yeah and going through here. What the scientist found was. They found life they found living.
Things in there and to me that some that's kind of well, it's beautiful,
choose the interpreted is beautiful rather than ominous, but you're right, Matthey,
They found bacteria, but there are more than that to
they found over one hundred multi cellular species, which is that huge,
they even found some species that are generally associated with molluscs and fish.
There is even one researcher who I think said: oh
findings. We might even have fish in there somewhere
Then he very quickly was ok. Well, maybe not fish hurry.
Is it so difficult to it so difficult to present scientific findings to the ear
above all it. Well, I would say it's not it's not difficult to present this stuff, the general public, because there's this great news is great error that people often make about
I quote- the general public, the quoted in the common man, and that is to say that
a single individual, smart, but a group is stupid. Now,
as convenient that might be as far as it might be. Your red, unlike a very negative homework card, will never see met before
The fact of the matter is that people are that the people
our intelligent, any cognitive Lee People-
somewhere tat old story about goldfish, our
our intelligence, grew to the size of its container. So human
the container who framed the debate. It's not it's not that it's not that!
scientists who report something and every
de in the world is all the son just dumb about it. No, it said they report something, but it is
dense than twisted into something that can be told in two minutes.
Thirty seconds, before shifting to a picture of like a cat,
accidently sneeze, while afforded which
would watch and we urge you to an extent amenities list.
I dont think Lake either. I think it's just a huge dare to say that he added
withdraw that might have fish thing because people wouldn't understand it. But why is probably
more concerned with ways.
Someone once really good headline grabbing it and running with it and say: oh yeah, I'm sure they live issue. I dont remember seeing the headline, but I'm sure it existed and so
so. We do know, though, that this is excited writers. There's a great lead here. There is evidence that,
compels us, because this is one of how many leagues, too,
you said yeah, she wondered and
party found some evidence. We already know something down their ban. That's gonna be
Oh I don't know. I can't
sorry to see me attacks or yeah. I cannot wait
civilization, alien life, a pyramid. Let me a pyramid: are you kidding me I'll, be great I'd I'd
it'll, be you will happen. No problem
Why have we not a minute, supposing I was in, say, praying? But while we wait
That's the thing, though we literally dont, know it's it's such and such an exam
in thing in and often we
species think about space, deep space.
Says as the vast unexplored territory, but the
is there some eggs
territory that you know
Cosmic Lee in a cosmic sensor. Cosmic scale is right. Next to us world out there and
I am interested to see. I am very interested in the future of Antarctica
and I know you are too as well as this is one of the things that we talked about off air- there would be one of the most important coming develop.
And that is who owns it. Precisely,
who will own and article in the future right. Yes,
throughout the treaty, the Antarctic, treating the it started out with
countries and now there are fifty two because
research signing the terms of its so and scientists down scientist from research. It has a couple very big provisions. The first
as the Antarctic, us shall be used for peaceful purposes. Only
nuclear bases, guys
Marine re. None of that. I feel it that's a tough thing to enforce, but it's not it's
impossible, I'm a pain in the bright little hurry, ass, the even get a ship down there lies annoying. Will
other islands in the area that are owned by
these countries as research islands may not have those same stipulations so, for instance, if you're
a queen Maud islands. Yes, fire excision
My land is part of Antarctica
about the islands off that today also qualify and
these things that are answered in the treaties, but the answers may differ certain points
in time or in in territorial reckoning. Nothing is it
Freedom of scientific investigation in art, again, cooperation towards that end should continue. So if.
Your scientists from the? U S and know the scientists from someone, Finland and other scientists from
answer by John doesn't work then known
What's really going over the countries, we should be able to cooperate as academics and
scientific observation and results from Antarctica shall be made freely available snow keeping
it's no saying we discuss
The ruins of an ancient aiming civilization, no Intel Gregg. I actually, we probably shouldn't, tell Greg
he's just gonna get so excited, knew how he is he's hurt
everybody the he found it he is. I wish
restarted that tumblr look what I found that tumbled earthen happen, but soon
where right now, there is this. There is this agreement that holds, but this agreed
this treaty,
is going to come under some increasing pressure, as as Anton
becomes increasingly accessible right and important. Once the aid
elsewhere. What a mineral deposits lacheneur under there
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Well, you know actually know anything, but a little bit more. If we
land ice, really source melting in increasing rate, to a point where this land is livable. We're gonna have to find new places for humans to live. Maybe this is the answer.
Well yeah, I don't you little cities
can't live there anymore, get bored
span a time for that too, that large large been a time, but eventually
the girl, I e the hits, or am I eventually might be- the new neighbourhood for people for a few million years until the next ice age navy. Yet- and that depends on oh, we shall talk about the Poles nets, but the US
Yes, so Antarctica is
has the potential to become a hot spot
for international competition and similar to the north pole. Where-
soon probably
if you listen, there's probably within your lifetime, the there will be parts of the EU.
Where the ice at the North pole melts to the point. Where
ships can navigate across, which would be tremendous for international shipping and also very
a dangerous for
dangerous for thee,
countries involved as they negotiate peace your where time, others
once upon a time when, once upon a time at last week,
Mckinley Folly because he was
on it. I would you buy all this raw ray and you know
listeners you're, not least in the u, s
I was thinking from this perspective. I look at a map of the fifty states. Recently I thought manual Lascaux. It's weird Alaska looks like
Did you call that what happened the but the idea of
these poles of the world becoming
the coming new regional hotspots. New global hotspots is not
strange as it might sound and I
that it can be tremendously controversial for people to talk about that stuff but needs. The fact is it's happening. People are just talking about why it happening and what the timeline, but the
To paraphrase the old opera quoth, the lady has saying she already thing show,
this is this is happening there, there's not much people to do to bring back the eye
right here. Eventually, it will eventually, at least in the in the North pole, will it will be as the navigable
by water is a movie that ice there all the year, but again also, I should probably heads
That's what I said in your lifetime, but we're not sure
yeah, we're not sure how you are either listener. Yeah! That's a very good point! So I'd like anybody who, who studies the climate professionally and to let me know your estimates, had loved, read them on AIR Owens begin corrections
You have another one eye
I met this up. I slipped were talking.
Our earlier episodes on
Ah, I'm were worth three. It was Nikita Khrushchev, yes to gifted Crimea,
Ukraine in nineteen, fifty four, not style right after stolen
ownership Sue,
the last was thing we're talking about here is the pole. Shifting oh yeah.
Which came up recently on our social media right. Here's the
Long story short
All the evidence indicates that every so
often the magnetic pools of earth shift so.
What this means is. Essentially the north pole becomes come to South pole. Pole becomes north pole.
Those times it happens gradually. The pole start too slowly shift away from their part, and then the north figure Compass points do is not the geographical nuth right.
And this I mean this- is something people know if you use a compass but other times it's just the flit like,
I should like a river banning, like the lifeless,
prince about air and those things on get whipped, turned upside down and
this, but
this year I just brings.
Or take mother poles every so often
if you're worried about this. This is another thing where we know that his store
we were overdue for it, the lights.
When windows that they actually come do no one knows
we have now completed will in
acts of were of a poor versus like that.
It's because we're talking about the the magnetic the sphere and, in all the inner mechanics of the magnetic nature of earth,
I don't have all that information, then about what what is going to do.
Exactly when it happens, but it seems like the effects, are gonna, be massive now well. Well, I think the effects will be
Probably the device probing master for certain migratory species
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north as well as you so this up, because I know you didn't get everything will all over our time. I just saw nobody.
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talk to the urgent need to hear your voice, your everyone's here, no love, you know, if you don't look so good
you cannot unhinged were alike. Are now I'm really. I just never seen you
this man a hurry. It very soon
because I'm freezing right now, but I know my internal temperature is very hot and I've got my hoodie on its a whore
he's got a high water bottle nestled, underneath his chin sexier their blood.
Your face. Severe
I was watching Mr Robot last night,
really a spoiler alert.
But I urge ok, so he is kicking a habit. One of the characters is kicking a habit.
And he's having the nights were soon going through, all its love and elsewhere.
In identifying so hard with his character at that moment, threat wholly crap you like in the ship, oh yeah, I watch the first episode.
Should day I can't be highly enough about it. The cinema
Are you ve this past episodes can't place that guy? I feel like I've seen him and something that I life, but I cannot, for the life of me, figure out what it was
positive either. Now I just see him as a character. Are events
This is an tactic discussion at least call you down. No, are you gonna how you gonna do you gonna put in? Did you just put it like a drum roll? He did it with my guy. I have heard in both much like in African. My ice is melting rapidly was turned to trouble you off to a sick bed, so well with
No, I have the DAS desperately guys. Would you given the chance taken
to Antarctica, can't do a
yeah. I got very close to us thinking aboard why me notices stowaway very what are my friends family. She was
who's going with them, because I hope
its head
retired or reserve verse or something, and they sit over gonna, go to an article things like.
Judgment is more affordable if more people go with us and so
you know, I'm a huge cheapskate. I said how affordable is. What do you mean? I have different ideas, but I was all set to go and then a pair
and I can only tell the story on the air because
I can use the names but apparently turned out. It was
more, the dad's thing, the wife eventual for. If down and said you know, this is my enemies,
me too,
why the hell are we going to Antarctica
you trying to say about our marriage is the earth which is a which is nice move. That was my one chance ago, and there is another expedition where these guys we're gonna send people out to find an entrance
The earth
We could sign up online to submit your qualifications, and this was on
we are working together. So I remember I never her.
From him, Sir guys, if you check out the show, let me
whence will go in the next one, if you're, if you let us know, maybe they're wifi, night good being in the hollow earth, and all sooner-
do what you think about the other, so for close out nothing. Now I don't know anything particular thank you guys were thorough as usual. I think there are some interesting
to think about? I don't think we were married, there's so much more. We could do I wanna go down. Are a sign of our research station put the two years in or whatever you and I want to find the thing you would find the thing here. Nobody gets filmy. I think there is a possibility to that. We talked about ITALY. Could you accidentally
dig to deepen resurrect some contagion,
the journey, as I was saying, was by the way where what is the thing, the thing was an alien life that landed gotcha.
But it's so it's hard to say exactly what it is right.
Does the only see its natural shape ass, the ambiguous tariff for awhile
yeah but yet- and we now have in you- didn't even dogma- that a possible contagion or a viral life form that lives there. We should
get too. We should do that in a future episode about a disease wiping out the earth which is
one of the water.
The historically one of the most dangerous disasters rain
even more so than in earthquake. Quick trivia question gather mink as if it was actually a question the other week when was playing. You know the names of the two types of plague. They made up the black
Egg Goodbye play and then there's the other one Greg's Clegg
already forgotten what it was already make. It was like New Monica. She knew
on plague. That's what it was exactly there was the bike play
new play. It sounds like a fun playing. It helps you remember the barbaric plague,
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undervalued well well played Sir well plague that no we're we're very get out before I Kristen Christie comes back for revenge, so we hope that you did enjoy this episode again, there's less if we didn't get too, but we would like
here for you with your thoughts on the future of Antarctica
we discussed before and
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