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This is Joe Mccormick and robin. I are out on holiday break this week, but we ve got a great classic episode for you. This is represented on Moreau's co, a jack frost, the the the russo finnish fairy tale from another universe. It's it. What can I even say I'm I'm speechless: it's you're going to love it yeah! It's a magical film that I think, people of all all times and ages- oh, can really get into it's. It has become for my family, our thanksgiving viewing tradition, and so this is the weird house in a map zone where we discussed the film this is, lot of fun- and I remember I really enjoyed hearing after the fact from folks who grew up with this movie either within the mystery science. Theatres thousand traditions, tradition or outside of that tradition in other watching it on on tv in europe or or being familiar

with it doing due to a family history, so we heard from a number of people regarding this film and it was her life experience. The welcome to stuff to blow your mind, the production of I heart, radio, hey welcome to weird house cinema. This is rob lamb and I'm Joe Mccormick, and this is going to be consuming the last new episode of weird how cinema for the year before return in the new year and it's pretty exciting because essentially have one last holiday selection here, one there is is, is nearing dear to my heart. I can safely say at this point: it's it's my esteem for this film has built up

over the years over the decades, and I feel like I'm, I'm at a level of just maximum appreciation for it now christmas, but the cranks we're gonna be talking about the nineteenth sick, these russian fairytale spectacular, motorola, co, better, too many fans in the west. As jack frost, I think sometimes called frosty or father frost. You may recall our mention of this film and the bin past episodes of stuff to buy your mind. They touch on things like mushrooms, culture and russian folklore. Now I did not know that called frosty, but that would make sense because immediately, I think, of how some people- I don't do this by the way, but some people who get the frosty at wendy's dip, the french fries in them, and this move. Is very much like that. It is a is like a salty, fried potato products, dipped into something sweet and cold on the tongue,

It is a match up of different kinds of fairytale. Flavors and John rose is a scatter. an blast of of weird magical elements of folklore. Now, of course, of you, europe in the united states, particularly during the ninety nine, is then your introduction, This film, I think, was likely through mystery signs, theatre, three thousand episode, eight thirteen we shared and ninety ninety seven. This is a risk of this down, but if you grew up in russia were in parts of eastern europe than this, The was likely far more than a weird oddity for your amusement. This may Then your holiday viewing tradition either around christmas or new years, in fact, the late nineties. I remember that this is what have been not too long after it. Actually they must. He episode actually aired. I was a baby instantly loved it,

I couldn't necessarily explain why I loved it and that's what I think the beauties about mystery science theater three thousand is like I've said before. I feel, like he kind of showed many of us, that these sorts of films existed and taught us We some ways of appreciating them and that, but anyway, I really liked the episode- and I was hanging out with a friend from high school in a foreign exchange student from the czech republic, who was staying. Friend the time and the time and for some reason I either described this episode to them or perhaps actually showed them part of the episode it out, put it on a tape or something and more quetta, the student told me innocent it recognises that. Oh this, this is the film we. Which every year this is our christmas tradition and that they they show it on t v every christmas and it's just an essential part of the holiday you know as as christmassy as the baby Jesus lowering guest from Heaven on a golden strength.

now. On one hand, that is very strange to me because I, like you, first encountered this on mystery science theatre, where I did the mindset I was in when I first saw it was what a strange mushroom defined in the forest like. It was just that this bizarre oddity from from out of the the nineteenth dimension, but now it again, especially without the mystery science cedars watching the movie on its own. It has the same kind of weird text: her as as a lot of christmas classics that that we did grow up with like come on an election top motion, rudolf red nose, reindeer and things like that accept more earthy, I mean this feels more rooted in inaction in real full chlorine and archetypes and imagery the way back yeah this that with this home is. Is this not one of those films where you're like okay? I guess I need to research, my russian history or my russian folklore before I watch this I know what's going on, all that is great

it helps you appreciate it more, but but all of this list speaks on on a level that I feel like like most of viewers is especially the sort of intended you were there, the child to use the actual child of the child at heart will instantly get what's going on throughout most of this bill and in a case in point did. The sum has been of viewing the Emma steed version of this has been a a ritual of of of my wife and eyes for many years now we want should everything's giving last thanksgiving we I believe we introduce my son to it and he blew like ok. This is interesting and here he said I said haiti. You guys want to watch the jack frost and he said here, but I think we should watch it quote without all the jokes: He wanted on rift and so I was delighted to trick as I've been wanting to try out as well, because I knew at this point that that the end of the good, be visible, downgrade the we.

Having the immensity episodes is not a proper reflection of of the film So I really wanted to watch a high definition version of it anyway and so weak. We want dead and it was an absolute delight. Everybody enjoyed it, he loved it, so you know nothing against the Emma steed version. I think it's a lot of fun, but if that the only version of morocco. You ve watched then you're missing out on just so many extra dimensional colors. I think you're entirely correct at our remember when we had this conversation. We were telling me this of some time always back, and so I asked finally watched it in a higher definition transfer, and this movie is beautiful. It is truly it it's. It's colorful a lot of the locations or gorgeous they mean they picked really wonderful. Wilderness settings, especially in the first half of the movie that takes place in the in the spring summer, I guess- and so there are, these hills and forests

eaves and meadows and and and the colours of the costumes pop. It's really wonderful, yeah it some like you, just transfer, the film in so many ways to watch it in this. This for colorful version for starters, like if you have social to western viewers, you have these scenes of people in babushkas no wandering about in the woods. If you drab colors that takes on a drag quality. But when it is so bright and so beautiful, babushkas or so of of vice Lee decorated, you know you pay, entirely different picture of of. rural living it it. It actually allows you to taste the the the focal work ideal that clearly this film a celebrated is funny. I mentioned the rude off the red nose reindeer thing. I just looked it up and it came out apparently the same year as as I asked both nineteen sixty four films.

Yeah in elite is weird with morocco. I've I've seen different dates for it like us. Sometimes I see nineteen sixty four sometimes see sixty five, but at any rate, that is the time period mid midnight sixties that it emerges so yet this this is essentially a big budget, folklore spectacle, geller, for children for the whole family, and it has everything it has the personification of winter. It has the the evil which babo your guy and or chicken footed house you have. These troll like bandits, milling about you have magical animals of mushroom spirits array, marriages, folklore, logic and much much more so, forms of an elevator pitcher this movie. I, though only the best thing I can come up with is looking The change in life, tat are wandering into the russian folklore wilderness and see what happens

the other way I'd frame, it is always be polite to magical old people. You made the woods. Absolutely I mean that's, it asked is universal, or maybe we need to get some trailer audio All right who's hide and seek with me now you ass- you sorcerer grandaddy, I dabbling for three little, but the truth is that I get boy you get bored, I get bored come on. Tell you with me play hide and seek to catch up with you, a play. I'd say: you're joking! I guess you know tat exact. Yes, I think so, if you catch me. I'll. Give you a well bent bow, and some nice trade arose is a bargain, a bargain, rather mushroom, ok

Getting there that wasn't the trailer, because, apparently we we dont know if there is a trailer that hasn't any like english narration, but I think there's a trailer at least with some singing yeah yeah, and I it's possible I'm missing something, as I did find trailers with english language for other films from this particular director. Who will look at two in a bit now before we get to the interactions. We would do want to talk just a little bit about the about folk tales and russian folk tales in the russian folk tale. That is at the key at the center. Above all this before do so. I wanted to just mention a few quick points that are actually from episode on the list she from last year that concerned russian folklore. These were points made by jack any, in the excellent book or series of books and mythology and anthology of russian folk tales. So, first of all, he contends that

or folk tales, may have emerged from the russian people than any other due in part to the fact that rural oral traditions lasted well into the twentieth century. He also says that raw russia has the second largest number of tail types according to the national classification system and within these tales, you'll find lots of animal stories. Frequent village These include babo yoga, which is nasty dwarves, shaped shifting magicians, how for baba- is also sometimes a donor or a helper, so in some sometimes she's a she's, a villain centre I guess she's kind of our. What an anti euro as something that was said, somebody that debt Grudgingly helps our here aloud and ask you to keep in mind in this film she's gonna, both at times frequent characters in general. You ve got about a yoga inner hut, the fire bird Kostiei, the deathless

yvonne, different versions of yvonne pop up, and this is key, the hero, frequently wanders through the woods at some point and receives help in his car. From an animal or some sort of supernatural aid, Now the movie, marasco or or jack frost actually seems smash together a number of different fairytale archetypes, but I would say that that the core, the core of the story. The course situation and backbone is based on a classic russian, very tail known as moroz co or father frost, which appeared in printed full tail collections, going back at least as far as the nineteenth century. Maybe before then- and it appears to be a variant of an extremely widespread folk tail archetype, the essence of which is that there are two girls. Two sisters are steps, sisters, a kind and who is rewarded and a wicked one who is punished now I

It would be great to actually just to read through a version of the the father frost fairytale and this the version collected by the scottish poet and anthropologist andrew lange in the nineteenth century, sir Robert, You game to read this folk tail with me and then see how it relates to the movie. Let's do it, so this is Relax rendition of the story of king frost there once upon a time was a peasant woman who had a daughter and a step daughter, the daughter, had her own way in everything and whatever did was right in her mothers eyes, but the poor step daughter had a hard time. Let her do what she would. She was always blamed and got small thanks for all the trouble she took. Nothing was right, everything wrong. And yet, if the truth were known, the girl was worth her

it in gold. She was so unselfish and good hearted, but her stepmother did not like her and the poor girls days were spent in weeping, for it was impossible to live peacefully, but the woman, the wicked shrew, was determined to get rid of the girl by air means or foul and kept saying to her father? Send her away old man send her away anyway you're so that my eyes she'll be plagued any longer by the sight of her or my ears, tormented by the sound of her voice, send her out into the fields and let the cutting frost do for her in vain. Did the poor, old father weep and implore her pity she was firm and he dared not gain say her so he placed his daughter in the sledge, not even dear to give her a horse clause to keep herself warm with and drove her out.

To the bare open fields where he kissed her and left her driving home ass, fast ass. He could that he might not witness her miserable death deserted by her father. The poor girl sat down under a fir tree at the edge of the forest and began to weep silently. Suddenly she heard a faint, sound and it was king, frost springing from tree to tree and cracking. His fingers as he went at length. He reached the fir tree beneath which she was sitting and with a crisp, crackling sound. He alighted beside her and looked at her lovely face well maiden he snapped out. Do you know who I am? I am king frost, king of the red nose is healed. He great king answered the girl in a gentle trembling voice. Have you come to take me away. Are you warm a maiden? He replied clyde warm king frost. She answered, though she shivered ass. She spoke then king from

stooped down and bent over the girl, and the cracklings and grew louder and the air seemed to be full of knives and darts and again he asked maiden or you warm, are you warm beautiful girl and though her breath was almost frozen on her lips. She whispered gently, quite worn. King frost then king frost, gnashed his teeth and cracked, his fingers and his eyes sparkled and the crackling chris sound was louder than ever and for the law It's time he asked her. you didn't know you still warm. Are you still warm little love and the poor girl was so stiff and now that she could just scare still warm o king no urgent. Courteous words in her uncomplaining ways touched king frost and he had pity on her and he wrapped her up in furs and covered her with blankets, and he fetched a great box in which were beautiful jewels and a rich robe embroidered in gold and silver, and she put it on and look

more lovely than ever, and king frost stepped with her into his sledge with six white horses. ok here yet intermission on the fourth day, also as though it seems like not complaining about being cold, worked out really good for her and choose humble right. I think the point is supposed to be that she's, like she said, oh kind in polite, that she won't even that you won't even complain about the cold, maybe because it would be like she's out. his domain. It would be like you know, offensive to complain about the cold, to grandfather, frost and you're out, and it is gonna going too but he's howison saying it smells bad yeah, that's where made sense of it, because otherwise it I don't really know what it is that so kind about saying your warm when you're, not, I think it's that it she's in his house right In the meantime, the wicked stepmother was waiting at home for news of the girls death and preparing pancake for the funeral feast and she said to her husband, all

and you had better go out into the fields and find your daughter's body and bury her just ass, the old man leaving the house. The little dog under the table began to bark saying your dog voice, okay, here, oh there the hell you do. You know how to do a dog voiced by roger. Do I do a scooby doo voice? Or, yes, your your daughter, show your daughter, she'll live to be your delight. Her daughter shall die this very night hold your tongue, foolish beasts gotta the woman there's a pancake for you, but you must say her daughter shall have much silver and gold. His daughter is frozen quite stiff in cold, but the doggie the pancake and barked saying daughter shall wear a crown on her head. Her daughter shall die on wooed unwed then old woman tried to coax that doggie with more pancakes and a terrifying with blows, but he barked on always repeating the same words and suddenly the door creaked and flew open. A great heavy chest was pushed in and behind it came the step daughter, radio

in beautiful in address our glittering, silver and gold for a moment, the step others eyes were dazzled. Then she I'll do her husband, old man. the horses at once into the sledge and take my daughter to the same field and leave her on the same spot. Exactly and so the old man took the girl and left her beneath the same tree where he had appeared parted from his daughter in a few minutes. King for us came past and looking at the girl, He said. Are you warm maiden what a blind old fool? You must meet ass, such a question. She answered angrily. Can't you see that my hands in my feet or nearly frozen then For us sprang to and fro in front of her question in her and getting only rude rough words. In reply till at last, he got very angry and cracked, his fingers and gnashed his teeth and froze her to death. in the hut. Her mother was waiting for her to return and, as she grew

impatient, she said to her husband, get out the horses old man and go and fetch her home and see that you are careful not to upset the sledge and lose the chest is the mother becoming irish ethic? Yes, she might be issued I pay as we'll discuss like it is impossible. If these lines, without thinking of the the actors in this movie, and particularly the english dab of those characters and yes, and then I'm also drifting in my axe in here. Ok, ok, but then, as we get a couple more lines, so the dog beneath the table began to park saying your daughter. where's frozen quite stiff and cold and never shall have a chest full of gold. Don't tell them wicked lies scolded the woman. There is a case for you now say her daughter shall marry a mighty king, but at tat moment the door flew open and she to meet her daughter and, as she took her, rose and body in her arms. She too was chilled to death and that's

yeah and man. These old fairy tales are so mean yeah. They, though, that this isn't, as is often the case yeah, the old tales didn't play around they they were. They were often rather brutal in ways that you might expect a film adaptation to then soften things, a bit and maybe not go so hard people especially, if they're not doing anything particularly evil, but even if like frost? It's just going and murdering everyone yeah. How are the children can connect with that rights? Are the skeleton of This folk tail absolutely appears in the movie, but but yelling. Say it. As did the edges are dull. The little bit so as of the the spoiled mean daughter is, is not frozen to death along with her mother. Instead, she just sort of made a fool of you. the internet is just is there now that we ve, the story like. I I admire the script even more because they found

great ways to soften the thorniest of the story, like him that of the instead of the old man being like. Well, I better better do what she says in abandoning his daughter to die me in and the cold. They they do in operation and that where he he is going, to do that is driving her out into the wilderness to abandon her, but any change of heart and says nope, I'm going to I and give her a piece of my mind, but but but now stinker is so good, she's. So good. She can't says here her father go back and then you know in and watch the stepmother unleash hell on him for disobeying her. So she slips often goes out into the wilderness to die and around right. She decides she's going to freeze to death in the woods because she doesn't want to make. Rebel right. I would say by the way you know I'm a sucker for stories that have a moral about being kind and stuff, but that that's a little too kind. I mean, I think it's ok. I think it's ok do not want to freeze to death. Even if that's going to create some headaches for your dad,

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Come back to the plot here, just a minute lets us take a moment to discuss the various people involved in this because because you like me, may not be familiar with any of the people that were involved in the making of morocco, and why doing them for years, but didn't really know anything about them and it was it was. It was really fun to research this a little bit the other day. Okay, so the director of this film alexander row that often spelled our oh you for a in english, but you also see it's about our w e, so he was born in nineteen o six died and nineteen. Seventy three legend They soviet film maker of irish and greek heritage, so here Father was an irish engineer, working in russia and and and and and apparently I think, there's some story:

The father ended up like leaving the family in russia. In any rate, alexander grew up as as a russian has as it in in working his way into what would become the gorky film studio and is becoming a mainstay there. He directed twenty fantasy films, mostly based on russian folklore and russian literature, and also some non fantasy films are thrown in there as well. But this was his peace is thing and certainly did such a rich well to draw from his films include such noble work. Says wish upon a pike from nineteen thirty eight, this when features tsar, czar rock and the princess who never smiled there's. Also, these are the beautiful from nineteen what are you this as the body I get in it as well as the frog princess there's the humpback horse, the nineteen forty one phil. that his has yvonne in it. There's. cachet the immortal, a nineteen. Forty five found that has the cachet the immortal,

fire: water and brass tides from nineteen sixty eight that has Kostiei body yoga voting on yo the water spirit as well as apparently some werewolves, whose barber the fair with the silken here for nineteen, seventy, which has the underwater king or the underwater tsar in it, being known, is too, though you do and then where's the golden horns from nineteen. Seventy three, which was, I believe, is last film. I ain't I buy thinks another director headed so at a completed for him, but that is a film centred around the bobbio, Well. Well is it is no surprise at all that this film maker has a long running affair of the heart with the with the wish of the woods, because the bobby yoga in this movie, is wonderfully he. She lives in a house that walks around on legs and that all of her scenes are just pitch perfect yeah. All

These films feature similar folklore threads enough because, for example, Bobby August pops up in four of them is yvonne, is in two of them cashiers two of them up and some of the same actors pop up in several this films, as will discuss so so. Basically, the deal seems to be that row popular lies. The epic folklore fantasy, fill me in russia and set a standard that tub that that is. it was. This will certainly emulated by other directors of the time period, but is also still reflected to this day in russian cinema, including the films of the world. me company cfcs, which produce the live action: russian fantasy films, the book of asters in two thousand and nine and the law. As the warrior trilogy from two thousand and seventeen through. I believe the third film in that saga is coming out in two thousand and twenty two. These are films that feature most of the characters that I just

delighted. So do you know just a modern retelling of these areas? Folklore story with the modern cinematic tools and styles say I've never heard of any of these yeah did these are. I have not seen any of them, but now I would like to check out some of them. I looked and trailers and some clips and I'm I'm impressed. Apparently you have the likes of Steven Spielberg who has spoken about about row in the past so of fruit. for those who know this guy was a master. Now is for us screenwriters go there are there to credit screenwriters writers, the first one is nickolay earthmen who live. Nineteen hundred, through nineteenth seven, the russian playwright and screenwriter, perhaps best known for nineteen twenty eight, the suicide. This is a play and he turned to cinema when his play writing career, ran a foul of soviet authorities and then there, mikhail vulcan, lived nineteen, oh two through nineteen, eighty, eight russians,

In writing. Hu frequently work with urban and together they all. oh rota, rose, firewater and brass pipes of open all I wrote the nineteen sixty one animated film. The key which apparent they ran a foul soviet sensors due to its criticism of social conformity. I now onto the cast, let's start at the top with the the actor who plays model skull. Who plays father frost? This is alexander. Turkey, caveat who live: nineteen o five through nineteen, seventy six, a russian actor stage and screen. He worked with several different fields, including golden horns and firewater, embrace pipes, as well as the really interesting, sounding row: film titled kingdom of crooked mirrors, which apparently all the mirror world and crooked meares. They brainwash people through an very subtle changes in reality. We have to look that went up He was also in rows. Nineteen sixty one the night before christmas day,

diana, a nickel lay google story. He does not play santa claus. Curious, for anybody, wondering is father, frost santa claus. Oh no, but there there's some significant aesthetic overlap. Yeah yeah they did it now the where you sometimes see people described describe father frost as the quote the russian santa claus, which is which is incorrect, but they're kind of cut from this cloth, the uno there there are similar charities. Once you get into the amorphous vienna collective unconscious, I guess you could make an argument that essentially, the same being both have law white beard, both right around in a sleigh both are associated with the winter months. Both have a sector that freezes people solid upon touching they have about have a big beard, the and and sometimes they bring gifts will know, he's ok, father process, the sceptre. But santa claus has the flower to disappear. If you know

well. Yes, if you're watching and yet you're watching santa claus, the width of the nineteen sixties movie as well wasn't it does exist, then it was filmed the clause versus the devil, all right, the rest, the cast, so you have no stinker visa. The beautiful, perfect girl there, the other that the step daughter played by Natalia Sedgwick, who was born in nineteen forty, eight still alive. As of this recording a former russian figure skater and ballet dancer. She was also in rows, firewater and brass pipes. Hard democracy as it does just ignore, miss eyes right so that Nasty go or nastier corresponds to the the good sister. The good daughter in the folk tell the one who's who is very nice and polite been is tree. very harshly by her by her hateful stepmother now well, let's oh, let's go ahead and talk about the the bad sister, the stepsister here. This is my fusco, the stepsister played by in a church over born.

Nineteen, forty three and out. I have to say that this was a form. Instead, I always admired knowing nothing about this actor like she's tremendous in this, like just in this. This snow, but a better times at times kind of vulnerable. human beings. You know like yeah, she is an outrageous caricature, but at times you do you feel for two. What she's detestable, but also pitiable in a way that all spoiled children are because you know like there's nothing more. Revolting than a spoiled brat child. But you know that the of they were made that way, and you get to see anyhow her, or how her mother is sort of abusive doting causes her to be the way she is. He you feel bad for yeah and you know given how good this performance is it it it? It probably shouldn't come as a the prize, but it might surprise some people to know that This was only her third screen row, but to recover went on to have this just highly successful, acting career in russia and is is highly acclaim.

I guess she's essentially with the russian merrill ST augustine, that level of successful. If you look up lists of us, like famous russian actresses, unless it's in some sort of modern list is not taking the full scope of russian cinema. You you, you may very well find her on that list. She was born in nineteen. Forty three still active today, He is she's married to acclaimed russian director lab panful of and has started several of his historical of fear. Including nineteen. Eighty three vassar she's, just one When this every moment on screen she's doing something interesting now the character of yvonne, the male hero is played by Edward is it of whose morning nineteen thirty six died in two thousand and three. All handsome russian actor whose career lasted throughout the sixties and seven There was apparently derailed and the early eighties due to some manner

natural or real estate scandal. I can get the full details on it, but he was so in rows, fire, water and brass pipes all right than theirs. Step mom. This has played its part, was played by vera outer skier, who was born in nineteen. Nineteen died in nineteen, seventy eight and other establish russian actor and frequent cast member ro films in her later career, apparently, she found her nation playing this. This exists. Sort of domineering stepmom character. So apparently this is see if she had a later career based on this type of character, wicked stepmother for life, yes, all right. Then. Babo yoga, though the which all this is such a great character and such a great screen presence in this film she is play by the act door The worry mill gar, who lived nineteen, three through nineteen, ninety three, so that this is good,

a comedic russian actor, who also seems to have specialised in playing supernatural folk, lore villains, he played Bobby yoga five times for alexander row, and he played escape the immortal, something like four times. He also played shouto you do. He plays tsar guerrilla various have and demons if you needed, if you needed somebody to play this kind of menacing, but also slightly comedic villain. This was your guy He is given it his all. I I dont want to cheap in it by this comparison before, like modern american audiences. Think, like a level of commitment to to a frantic physical performance sort of like, like Jim, carry in the nineties, yeah yeah like if it in writing thence he's kind of like a big, nay monster player. You know like boris car left but imaginative if boris karlov were merged

as yeah what, with one of these just outlandish physical comedians. This is what you might have we also have an interesting, bandit chief character who pops up in this play by anatoly cobalt, ski who live. Nineteen, oh eight, two thousand and one you're a russian character actor who often played heavies and bandits and kings and frequently work with alexander row he's pretty fun, and this is not a huge part but you know, there's a lot of snarling scenes were finally cease staring often in the screen and looking very suspicious agenda and greedy, so I'd fun role. He has a great line. The really sticks in my head, wherein the english dub after yvonne has like, apparently magically thrown all of the bandits. Clubs up in the skies of they don't fall back down until months later they, the bandit chief justice

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there is a better way to fly private. Now dont really remember this introduction from the mystery science theatre version- maybe it's in there, but the movie kicks right off letting you know it's a fairytale because it begins with with a girl and mother sort of opening some like that the wooden windows, the wooden shudders of a play house, and she leaned. into the window in and says that once upon a time an old man and an old woman lived in a village with their daughter is so it's like you're you're, being all day, a fairytale by your babushka right. You know before bad or something yeah This. This is a great opening and apparently the eggs.

at same opening occurs in other row, films with with I dunno, if it's the same grandmother type character, but it's very similar, storyteller and saying yes, this is a folk tale. Let me tell it to you and yeah: this was cut from the M s, t three k version, I'm sure for for time, as they frequently did those films, but I also love it because if you remove her from the film there, aren't really any like nice, old russian ladys in the movie, its ideas lay the evil step. Mom a you know a way: b, mother in law, who's also kind of scheming and then a matchmaker who I don't, I guess the matchmaker isn't is terrible, but still it did. She lacks the charm of this this grandmotherly storyteller, whose here to entertain us, I think I think yvonne's mom is all you need her for a second, but Sheila gives him. She gives him good advice that he doesn't obey, though he should have read

and she also I mean she's, just like like she's, desperately like trying to to tell him to to live his little his little his life correctly as easily now. So I don't know it's a very desperate scene and not really a warm one. Give me nice blind lady later on, but but nothing like the grandma here is speaking directly to us. Nobody, to give a shudder to yvonne's. Mind me she's right about everything, like out, I'm runnin off to cause trouble go around rolling through the woods getting into getting in all kinds of mischief and she's. Like wait, respect your elders. If he'd only listened to her yeah, she could have saved a lot of grief, but isn't that always the way anyway. So you get the introduction that she says she. She explained the situation which is similar to the beginning of the original folk tale about grandfather, frost. You get the two daughters, nasty go was the daughter of the old man and more fish. Go was the daughter of the old woman and and then you fade to these idyllic scenes of rural life. So you got some

why is on a river? That's very smooth in an old house deep in the woods- and you see this, only sleeping inside or at least most of the family, because the first character we could see more fiscal again displayed by by immature cover. She is sleeping in it. So there's a thing. I was wondering about whether this is a real feature of this time and place, something you Fine in these rural russian houses or if this is saying something about the character but she's like a it like it. major sleeping in what appears to be kind of a credit, but like it's like a wooden box, I think that maybe rocks, and I wonder if that supposed to be like. Oh, she spoiled like baby yeah, I don't know. I guess I always thought it was just yeah, she's kind of a big baby, so of course she's in something like a career, but it's possible that this is some sort of traditional box bad. I know we have some mom We have some russian listeners endless stairs with them with with russian routes.

Explore a greater knowledge of russian customs. Perhaps you can shine in on this. Is this something that an adult would actually be sleeping in? Or is this just about telling us that she's baby. Well, I think something that has got to be true to the original to the russian setting is the fact that she is being bothered by mosquitos their loom buzzing around her face. You know I hear the mosquitoes can be really rough and in the russian woods so they're they're buzzing around and her her mother wakes up and ass she sees what's No, no, no, my poor babies being bothered by mosquitos, so she wakes up her husband and makes him sit at more fish, his bedside to waver branch over her face to keep the mosquitoes away and she also gives are a wall we pop too in while she sleeping is, that is that normal? Is that just a fairytale thing? I dunno? I mean all

I law, babies would love to have a lollipop whilst sleeping that we, finally parents are not going to give it to them, but I don't know I can't speak to that, but the the interesting thing about the lollipop is that again, the image teeth, gate version of this, the the video qualities, certainly unbent versions that lasted after the show went away and nationally. The video quality is Poor, dear I urge all I saw was red lollipop it until I watched a nice hd version of it that I saw that the red lollipop is in this a rooster, and so I looked into this. I was like why. Why is it in the shape of a rooster? Is this a thing? And yes, it is indeed a thing. There is this: if something is in this film, I guess there's a very good chance that it emanates there for a reason and there's a whole history to it. according to the website, russia, beyond russian lollipops or lead in nets date back to the thirteenth century, the rooster

rested a traditional, their other modes that are used other animals, but that the rooster is the main one, because the rooster is a quote magic when regal bird in russian fairy tales, by the nineteenth century? It was especially a big deal. They they're not always read in color. I think this might have to do with the use of beet sugar or perhaps then using beach sugar and then be juice to dare to color it. But sometimes there more than of a brown color sometimes there more yet more caramel coloured in nature, but down there around. You can still by them. you can order them online and there still sold in russian candy shots. Oh, my god, what a good christmas gift getting somebody to have more fishkill lollipops yeah. I really after I've learned this. It's like, oh man. Now I want one I dunno. If I want to sleep with it, letting you know I wanted one, it's grown certain concerns about looking cool it. There's something like dignities questions at

really care about, but I will not eat the rooster lollipop that line not just in general are only at night. Never what oh well, are they get you and you might change your mind, but anyway, I think we're supposed to get them the uk idea there giving her a lollipop all she's sleeping, I guess mama friskers a spoiled brat, even when asleep, But then, meanwhile, we get the mother going into the next room to see her stepdaughter nastier, who again corresponds to the good daughter from the folk tail, the nice one and nastier is staying up through the night to knit a pair of stockings that her stepmother asked her to make from our future and when she comes in and friends are hard at work, the stepmother is still not satisfied. She she's, like I told you make the stockings, but I didn't tell you to click your needles. Like that you'll wake up my darling girl, so nasty as outside in the cold, the finnish knitting and the the

other is so mean. She says the stockings have to be finished by the time, the rooster crows and she says otherwise. My precious little girl. I will terrier braid off there's a lot of threats of breeds violence in this movie yeah the removal of braids and then, of course, its reveal that damn stepsister does not have an act oh brad, she has a store, bought, braid, so so you know commentary on which daughter is legitimately beautiful and good in which one is artificially beautiful. Anchor which of course, is based entirely on hair length became paragraph right. Yes, hair length is directly corresponds to moral virtue. Yes, But I love, I noticed little thing. This is also in keeping with the fairy tale. Is the version chronicled by andrew Lang, which is that the family dog bork

that the wicked stepmother, when she's being mean to Nastia so like the dog, is taking nastiest side just like in the story. The dog takes the the good daughter's side back at home. She's, like you, know, I'll, give you a pancake you say that that the good daughter is bad and the bad daughter is good and the dog's like no, I won't yeah yeah. The the dog is important in this movie, as are other animals like they're, not just I just hanging around like they. They have agency, even if the the movie didn't go to the degree of having them actually speak with, like dubbed human voices, though some of the animals in the movie due speed yeah. Do they speak surrender? Remember just now: it's I did the pig speak. Does the cat speak? The registration It makes you wonder about. Oh, yes, that's right. That's coming right up said this I was about to rise and rooster hops up into framer, the stepmother was like okay, if you don't finish the stockings by the time, the rooster crows, I'm in a terrier break off and

an nastier goes and negotiate with the rooster she's like give me a little time, please pretty rooster, I guess she's flattery, Ammerman, no she's, not probably not flattering, because she's she's good and honest she just genuinely thinks the rooster is pretty and throws that in there. Just be nice in the rooster we talking with the human voice, says sorry, roosters only obey the sun. So you'll have to go you after you, gotta talk to my boss, seek you gotta go deal with the rosy finger dawn, so she goes. Plead with rosy, fingered dawn and ass. She. So she goes up on this hillside with these trees. Behind her- and it's like this little crest, crest of a grassy hill that rises up by the river and she faces the sun and pleads with It- and Currently, these son is so moved by pity for her it sinks back down over the horizon and gives their time to finish the stockings, and I guess I think this the first moment in the movie, whereas

huh like so far, it's been interesting and funny, but this scheme is actually quite beautiful, yeah yeah and dead I have to admit when we recorded our our our current the current series on time travel fiction. I kept thinking of this like this. Some ways is kind of a folk, lore egg time travel into the past. Better all turning back of the clock, but not the the clock on the wall, but the clock. The celestial clock the great celestial clock of their there, the actual movement the sun, italy, joshua, stealing the sun in the sky. So he could finish his battle there and it works. So so it works that each has time to finish the stockings before the rooster crows. But you know what the wicked stepmother is. Still not impress she comes out she's like so you did it on time. While you wicked little viper, you wicked little, which

Give you much harder work next time. You know which is a relatable dynamic to a lot of people. Maybe I'm sure at some point in your life, everybody, you might have had the experience of trying really hard you working hard to complete some task. That seemed impossible only to die, where the doing so is maybe not really rewarded or appreciated instead makes people expect even more of you in the future. Maybe that's more often work thing than than a family thing. Diana I have encountered shades of win endeavours and dragons like when the dungeon master gives you an encounter in go a little bit too easy yeah, they just sort of like ad hoc or make up another one to punish you yeah or like next time I'll have to make it harder. It gets okay that it went that way. Sometimes we need a cakewalk. Sometimes we need when petrol. Twenty, why you wicked little vice versa? That's exactly

but as a reward of course, yeah she's gonna get more chores stuff like watering random stops and set forth. Yes, yeah exactly so she's now for this big list of other chores to do around the farm. Cut to meeting one of our other main characters. I guess there are two main characters are nastier and then this new character, yvonne and image If you see him coming out of his house, we learn he's from another village near by and in, immediately we get the vibe about yvonne that he is young and strong but proud in vain and so he walks out of his house. If you know of chest puff down looking it looking into a handheld mirror in and just really enjoying himself enjoying his own reflection and like we we're talking met a minute ago. We see his mother comes out behind him and she really worries for him as he's leaving the house. She implored him not to forget her. So it's as, if he's just go. after two- maybe never return, who knows

she tells him that he should should not harm the weak and that he should respect his elders, and he yeah is character, picture of arm of arrogance and and duty, but also I mean the thing about yvonne and again it's my understanding that are sort of different versions of yvonne that you encounter in the the stories like he all the tools to back to back it up like he is a beautiful man he he does have, like almost godlike powers. He is he's like a rush hercules and he's also he's he's he's here It's a great mind. Easy is able turn to trick people of hurting him without necessarily getting into a physical battle with him, but he is just. Crushingly. Vain right. it I mean. I think it picks up on a fork, tail themes that I find interesting. Many folk tales concerning concerned actors who are themselves vulnerable to some more powerful threat within the story,

monster a bare and animal love, a bandit or something but there's another before tale. That is about the reckless arrogance of the strong young man. It's not that he's vulnerable. It's that his that that his strength and his freedom make him a danger to himself and others right right, and he he can. even though he has all the tools to be a true hero here, he's not gonna, be one until he learns like the right path and life and in actually starts at that, thing on the true values of moral life, but as soon as we see events thing out from his house two to go on his wanderings, a song dance scene begins, and I just just- I also don't know if I remember the song and dance seen from the mystery science theater, but I loved it. It's it's sort of like yvonne's, Debbie, Debbie entrance music. It I'd the song is not translated in the dub. So I'd truly dont know what were singing about, but I'm guessing its about how

Everybody, including yvonne, thinks yvonne, is really great seems there were any of this. definitely a scene that was not a name S. Three k cut. So it's it's. It's kind of like this delightful bonus you get. Watching a year, you gotta watch all these scenes. You ve seen a million times transform into something beautiful and then occasionally all new scenes. But this leads into if on going sing and then a tramping through the forests in the hills and it's just a really excellent musical seen the song is good again, it's not absurd. I dont know what it's about, but I assume once its yvonne by himself in the woods singing it's just you I am also among the best I'm going to sing about myself and then we straight into the bandit scene, which I did remember from the from the other version and the bandit scene is a classic it's. How would we describes when good

you wanna, take it! Oh! Well, it's just this band of really only like watching this. It's easy! imagine that they're not even humans, but there is some sort of dwarves or trolls or something or nomes as it's just bunch of very rugged. Looking mostly bearded men in mismatched garments setting around a campfire, and there the other plucking, the petals off of daisies and there in their they're, trying to decide to try to use the daisies way to decide how they're gonna, how they're gonna go about their day. I think we will robbed them. We won't rob them we will lead them. We won't eat, cetera, but the next one is, we will beat them. We will be beaten one I haven't. If they pick, we will be beaten they how I'll get eaten. I don't think I I never really noticed that they were saying that part some of those of the bandits are like up in the trees as lookout says. So I love the set up here, but of course there

we're have a clash of the strong against the strong yvonne comes along, whistling is theme song still doing the tune of his entrance music. The bandits come up to him and they say you're captured now we're going to rob you, I think, that's literally a quote so he says all right then robbed me and he dropped his satchel, which I guess they would assume, has his money in it and they said fighting over his satchel and in doing so they dropped their clubs yvonne sets to grabbing the clubs and shocking them way up in the air and then when, when there, when they fit what's going on there like hey? What do you do with our clubs and he's I well I throw up in the sky and they'll come down next winter. Ok, yeah! It's going to be led. The ban it's a fearsome by, but not the smartest and on his easily able to work to outsmart them without even really having to fight them oh moving along Yvonne just goes about his business,

then the narrator comes, and I love that there are just a few moments. Were a narrator suddenly talks, there's not much narration in the movie, but every now, and then you get like a sentence or two and it's kind of jarring. As its I quote, where that come from but the narrator says: how long did our young hero yvonne wander over hill and dale? Frankly, we have no idea. Of his laughing the urban I saw there because I was like who is. We is this like the god speaking like it, you know Let us make man in our own image anyway, as though Did the the narrator says? The fact remains that yvonne eventually reached far away and unknown lands. And here is where we get another classic scene. I think we talked about this seem a little bit mushroom forging episode. But this is the chase scene, between IRAN and the old man. Mushroom grandfather mushroom so yvonne meets the this old man who wears a hat. That looks like a mushroom cap and

he's a gipsy disappearing and reappearing and divine goes up to him and says: are you a sorcerer grandaddy ass, the he says I devil and sorcery a little, but the truth is that I get bored and what does that mean? Does he get bored? Well, that grandfather, mushroom, wants yvonne to play, hide and seek with him. so so they were how to deal. If yvonne can catch grandfather, mushroom hill, he will Ebay, well bent bow and some straight arrows, but it is hard the catch grandfather mushroom because he has the power to disappear and teleport. So this does not really seem fair so having loses, but because he admits to losing the old men gives him the bow and arrows anyway, but in keeping with the whims of the original folk tail, here's what so yvonne is not in the dead, the classic grandfather, frog sillies, the version chronicle by andrew lang, but it the same role

supplies and he has met a magical old man in the woods and he is not courteous to him. He forgets to say thank you for the bow and he just sort if he just sort of, is like okay, I'm going to go about that. I'm going to go about my business and the old man is like hey. Aren't you going to say that you and bow to me about your head and yvonne says, Those who bow run the risk of losing their head. The bear will bow before you, if you like, but not yvonne, and who does it. This is bad news so grandfather mushroom is like then so be it. Things will come to pass. As you say, the bare will bow before me down to the ground, but it is your back that will bend so here we get again always be polite to old magical people in the woods. There's a hot new pack ass. We think your life variety

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private, but eventually we gotta have her, are to protagonists or two plot collide right. So so yvonne comes across a carving on a rock that reads, find a feather in the fields and throw it to the winds, and if you follow that further, you will find your destiny. So, yes, a somewhat aggressive way of finding a feather in the fields of ships, a bird with an arrow and then picks a feather off of it throws it, it floats all over all over the place and he follows it an event. leah lands. Her side where he finds nastier. She They are drawing water from the river she's got her low. Nobody dog at the side she singing this melancholy song and he is pouring water over a dead, stump and yvonne. Caesar falls in love at first sight and he walks up to talk

She is, of course, hard at work: watering, the old stump. She says, she's going to water it until flowers bloom out of it, something her stepmother told her to do and yvonne's like that's crazy She must. She must be very mean to you, but nastier does not complain. She's like no, it's fine it. You know I'll I'll. Do it s so yvonne? I don't think there's really any! lead up to this he's just like hey. Will you marry me so he's being We smooth then she is like. I do not think we would make a good couple and he Do you know why she says? Well, it's because you were braggart and I am not and I like that, his responses. Well, I'm not a braggart, because I am actually very good at everything. So he explained. So I guess it's not bragging. If it's true, so he says, he's a good fighter he's a good fishermen, he's great dancer, Andy's a great hunter, and then he decides to show off how good

He is at hunting by pulling out his bow, and he says he's gonna shoot to bear on the other side of the river and nastier greatly opposes this. he says no, she has cubs and she tries to stop him. So she calls out were dog who barks in this? there's the bears and they run off, and the nastier throws a bucket over yvonne's head and then, when the bucket comes off the movie kicks into high gear, because oops here get grandfather, mushroom, magic and now Bon has a bare head and he sounds like salzburg yeah. I guess it s a bit, Bulgaria is fabulous bareheaded they think is actually well crafted. You know I mean within the context of the of the film in the time. You know it looks kind of terrifying but also kind of alive. It yeah, it's very creepy, looking also sometimes funny looking and in his voice has changed. She no longer just sounds like yvonne heat it's warders happened. Rumour and

when he realizes he has a bear. Had he thinks that nasty it did it to him. He thinks that she gave didn't. I think he thinks she gave her ok yeah because he is So I could you forever you with age and he runs often and freaking out. This also looks very funny because he's just running between the trees of swinging, his arms around and moaning, and Austria's very sad and her tears fell in the river, For some reason, this makes flowers bloom out of the dead stump that she was watering yeah the up, and I think that where we also have a very beautiful, lengthy seen that I think was cut from amnesty version where we do so wonderful reflection in the water and energy having this emotional moment and it's a guy again one of those readjust is admire. The look of the cell- oh yeah,

very right, I mean the so there. It is genuinely a sort of sad moment here, but then it gets back to being kind of funny, because We see yvonne just like roaming all over the place, growling and moaning and feeling really sorry for himself, and he somehow he gets back to grandfather, mush, roman, he's like it. I gotta know how to get this get. This had been a bare head offer me. Begs him to teach him what he can do to become a man again, grandfather, mushroom says you ve, never done a good deed and then her head. Yvonne runs with it, so he's like. Oh so I must do a good deed and then I'll return to normal and grandfather, mushroom is trying to protest. He's like no. It isn't that simple, but bear head, is always he's already running off to get it done, so it still that that youthful sort of pride full foolhardiness. He is not going even read them.

instructions, yeah and then from here we get to kind of a montage of scenes right. Where he's running up to people random folks and his lane is saying what can I do to help you? But if he's a bear monster, so he's terrifying people and they're just running away from it right, yeah yeah I mean it's. It's can only frankenstein right, Mary E, the the the the creature just just wants friends, but but he's scary. Looking so people are going to run away. Oh, it is very is in fact it mirrors a frankenstein and and in another way they will get to in a second now cutting back to the house where, where nasty and more fiscal could live, there is a really funny seen leading up to. I guess it's supposed to be in a match. Making scene where a suitor and his parents come to the house and they're trying to set up more foosh go with this with this marriageable bachelor and so getting her ready for that. Putting all this make up on her, but it looks like clown make up and she's wearing this extremely colorful outfit with her with her

a red and yellow crown- and is it's the colors look great and again, this is one reason that it really is worth watching the the good hd version, but also I thought the scene is very funny because, like bachelor is the super dopey looking duty he slightly has a bit of. the energy of the guy in the who play some microsoft homes bbc version of Sherlock Ojeda, but like dope, ear with long flat, hair, yes, and so that there is a seat, so that their trained at the parents are trying to get him to him and his parents to agree to Mary. I'm are pushed her, but I everything really goes wrong. Somehow she ends up falling into the lake and then her fake braid comes off and it s just a just all goes to Helen and the the other people are making versions of the stepmother is really mad.

And then did the worst thing of all. Is that dead? The suitor dude is like hey what what, if I married nasty and still not just makes the stepmother go like ballistic so and then eventually after after along interlude, yvonne does get is, is original head back and I think it's because he picks up a stick. Thinking belong, to an old woman that he helps carry back to her home over a mountain areas like oh. This is her, stick a bitter. It back to him for some reason. That's the thing that does it then grandfather, mushrooms like Ok, you deserve a human head. Now yeah and all blind woman, so it kind of mirrors frankenstein in that respect the regions initially his hands up. Near by carrying her home but its remit, but it seeing her stick and thinking owes needs that stick we need to get that back to her. So almost like this, something that they must he three k riff had

Well, you know the idea that it's like you didn't actually do anything nice. He just thought about doing something. Nice in that was enough, but I, if I'm a re into a more. I feel like it's the idea that he was doing it without any kind of scheme, I bet you know he wasn't helping her. because it would help him here Just doing it as a reflex you know it is a kindness was no longer something that he had to force himself to do. He could do it instinctively will. That makes more sense. Ok, I can accept that, but yeah when it does come down to it is very funny to point out that that he just thought about doing it and he asked rewarded for it, and I know it. I think sometimes people do sort of work that way like they maybe congratulate themselves a little too much, not for actually doing anything good, but for becoming convinced that they

would do something good and having the opportunity yeah, I think, we've I think, we've we've looked at some studies on that for the the core stuff to blow your mind, episodes, okay! Well, here's sort of we hit the transition. Point because we skip ahead in time, so we we we skip ahead to winter, previously, animal. I guess this was supposed to be in some, well before and now we go to winter- and here is where we sort of really get into the meat of the original folk tale. I I also think at this point where we might, we might skip over some things and describe in less detail, but there there is so much wonderful stuff and magical characters in the second half movie too, because here's what we're gonna get bobbio, guy and and grandfather frost so that the second part begins with the premise of the grandfather frog story, which is that old man is taking nastier out and out into the frozen woods to die, because, presumably because tutors, keep wanting to marry her instead of more fish cap and a stepmother is, is tat.

there's so she's like old man, you, you will kill your daughter for me and he's real broken up about it, but he's doing it like his leg out there on the sled, but then he, while he's out there, he's like no why won't any tries to turn the sled around to take her back home, but, like we talked about earlier, ignacio apparently doesn't work cause trouble for her father, so she just hops out of the sled yeah. So I guess so as not to be a burden. Gases is like, It is all right, dad I'll daughters die of exposure. I don't want you to have a rough afternoon. I say again that is pathological that there is no reason to be that nice, but now also it in the same time period in the dead of winter. We find yvonne wandering the woods and what he's he's trying to find nasty again easily hey I've got a human head again, I am a better man, I'm not so selfish and vain. Now I am, I am a a a more suitable, a bachelor who who could marry nastier because now she'll see I'm actually a good person

oh he's out, trying to find her and he comes across the cabin of of the witch of Bobby yoga which is up on legs. I think, as it is often depicted in these stories and there's this great scene where, there there, like a word, he he and the which are both trying to order the house which direction to face yeah. This is a wonderful thing and, in this whole sequences just great with with all the costumes and sets an everything's. Oh yes, She gets a bunch of trees to attack yvonne and bring him inside because she wants to eat him. and she's gonna load him into the oven to cook him, but he tricks her in classic fairy tales. While he's like. Oh hey, you're, a you want me to sit on the shovel, so you can put me into the oven, but I've never sat on a shovel before you. Gotta show me how the youth of today were not caught anything she's going to demonstrate. It

if she gets on the shovel and and he shoves her into the oven and then she's like ooh, get me out, so he he lets her out, but then they're negotiating he. Trying to get her magical, help to find nasty, baby interior of Bobby argues. Heart is fabulous because it looks like one guy. Mario Barbara was the air. Was the interior decorator here? Yes, blue, purple light everywhere fog. I animals are owls pigs, cat, spider webs. I think some of the snakes other things and probably not even remembering meanwhile, so well, yvonne, is encountering. This magical being nastier is encountering grandfather, frost and we get basically, the aim interaction that they have in the folk tail. So he's like. Are you warm and she says? Yes, even though she is obviously freezing and he's like you, you're very nice girl and because you know she's not gonna talk smack about how cold is forest is, and then he offers her his car,

Woot but she's like what about you? Won't you be cold, but of course he's you know, he's father frost that can be cold, so it goes from just for show exactly this. This is this is a fashion code and so just as she's about to freeze to death father asked is like: oh, she needs help, so he covers her up in his warm coat, takes her in his sleigh and they go to his house, which looks kind of like a church, yeah yeah, it's it's it's it's it's another beautiful structure inside and out inside, especially its justice. This blue crystal powers, You know again, I'm kind of reminded us of Mario Barbara films accepted it. It is as if mario bother made a fairytale movie for children instead of some sort of thriller right, I hope that there is something quite deadly within the house, though, because a father frost, he leaves his sceptre in there Wouldn't you know it s nasty is a nasty, is curious

they get the better of her because she's like what's deal with the sceptre, she goes to check it out, touches it and it freezes her solid she's in a chunk of ice We learn from father frost that that whoever touches the sceptre will never wake again, and comes back and fines are frozen like that, and he really beats himself up about it. He's like even it with you donkey, you didn't watch over her. Meanwhile, some out who the wit since yvonne off chasing after some gonna object. I think is that cheap scan or something that will allegedly led him to nastier or a pic sled verses. Maybe that's a pig is trans that lives in her heart is transformed into a pig's, led, a magical sled. It will take him where it needs to go. And she, when she's alone she has. These scenes would like a cat and an owl and a snake where she's just look mentoring that she did not get to cannibalize yvonne's. She really wants to eat him

member of the cat was doing her bidding buys helping to engineer the moment where she touches the sceptre and his frozen. That's right, yeah a bit of it Julie, yvonne meets nasty as loyal dog, or do you know her body dog from way back in the beginning in and the dog? I like this movie, because this is a movie that appreciates that the quality of a good dog and add the dog is a good friend. The dog leads him to father house and when he gets there, yvonne's love wakes her up in defrost, sir, basically, oh, and then what versus the exchange they have it's like she gets. defrost, isn't he's there with his head back to normal and she something like she. She says was she gives him? I guess it's the diminutive form of his the new sugar. She says even nootka, how as you are now, I like you better and than he he brags now that he does good deeds. All the time- and she seems to accept this and then

We get serve a happy ending, but the funny thing is the movies not over yet. So you would expect this is. You know the music kicks in and we go to credits, but it's not quite there. Yet. We do see the happy ending nastier, Yvonne, arrived the family home in a regal sleigh, their dress like royalty, with box full of gems. though it seems like they're married and they're happy in their rich, add more fish is furious sheet. saying I want stones, so I so much like the very day. her mother demands that the old man take more fish out into the forest as well, so that the same thing can happen to her? Because, from their point of view it's like well, ok daughter was left in the forest. Came back, married, happy and rich. So we just assume the same will happen to the other daughter, but when father frost across her she basically beat him up. I think she actually hits simmer something gay ashes, she's, abusive and an awful to the frost.

in the original folklore, I keep phrases are to death for it. But in this we gotta get a sanitize version of that right. So, instead of him, killing her in the stepmother. More fish catches sit back home in not with a husband or not like royalty and slay, with a handsome husband pulled by white horses in a box full of jewels. Instead, she is by herself on the sled pulled by pigs with a box full of crows. Yes, and there is also a great as the epilogue scene, where yvonne and nastier are riding off together and they get attacked by the bandits from earlier in the movie, at the behest of the witch, the woods yeah. This is kind of our final battle, so she's rallied the bandits and there's oh there's a great scene where she comes flying in in her in her mortar, which is which is

the traditional means of flying about, and it just remind me so much of an illustration from the enchanted worlds book. It was really bride illustration by Ivan Belbin from I believe, nineteen hundred, It was in the book on witches and wizards, but you can all see this image. If you just go to the wikipedia page on, the young guy. It's like that. The top image in its it's really cool. So yeah she's coming, earn she's, bribe the bandits. She's, ok, rising them. So dna have the worst thing you have the bob we are committed to bringing down yvonne, investing and she has convinced all of these bandits to work with the bandits. Our very smart, but now have a general telling them what to do right. I didn't see you, I think she still wants to eat yvonne, rightly she's like he looked so tasty, yeah yeah. She felt she cheated out of that may also she's gonna she's gonna, get it right

So as the bandits attack nasty get tied up in the bandits are beating up yvonne, but then we get dead. To save the day. We get a couple things First of all, the loyal dog untied nastier from the tree, and then the bandits are act out by their own clubs. We get a call back from earlier when, when yvonne, through all the clubs up in the air, the safe, I believe the earth than domestic through version is it's raining. Cinematic pay off I love you. I love that roof and I think about it any time. Something like this happens in a movie the men. I guess At the epilogue to the epilogue, which is like we see a r r, a nasty and yvonne at their wedding here or at some kind of celebration. They're in they're in a house with people gathered for a feast and it's like the most colorful scene. I have ever witnessed that the colors are just like violent. Yes, it is an absolute beautiful does fabric J egg pastel explosions, its gorgeous and there on the table. You see

all of food, apples, there's a rooster, bow everybody's here and it's They shot two because they begin it there under the table. In the we we pull back in only wherever we're moving down the table down this feast table. We feel like we're a part of the feast right yeah. So so you know what does a wonderful holiday film. This is it it does make for great commute. Fodder an animus t, but this is also just a really gorgeous creative and fun movie. I I give it a ten out of ten talking rooster's yeah like most of the best mst three k films. It stands on it's own without the rift it is not necessary to enjoy it in my opinion, so I recommend everybody consider giving it to go, especially if you're a fan of the episode you you're still love it. You ve probably seen that the rift version enough that you ve memory, now the good rifts. So you can just think them or say them.

I your watch over ten they're yours yeah yeah for ten years and well lucky for you, you can buy or rent this digitally on a number of platforms, including amazon, prime, where I think they are like two different versions of it and I'm not sure- what about the quality and those but well, whatever you end up finding go with the the high quality. If you find the and make sure it's the vibrant, colors and shop around, you can watch it in rush. with subtitles there. You can also watch it again with this very fine, english dub, theirs physical risk, a co dvd that you can pick up require reasonable price online. If you want a physical to put hear your dvd player nice, I think, sir, are what our second russian film on weird, how cinema there is a teens in the universe: oh yeah, the safe. I wonder at the great robots, also ultimately, children,

and yet here we are with another russian children film well and to understand. There's plenty more were that came from. It seems, especially maybe the sixtys and seventys have a lot of great great looking fantasy in cipher films from Yeah yeah we ve heard from some listeners who has given us some recommendations that also look great and and I have also run across them, older films that that also look pretty good. There's a particular russian horror films. That is it is on my list that we may have to get too in the mind. The head, or rather in the year ahead, because, like we said this, I believe this is gonna, be it for this year we can have a couple of repeats in the weeks ahead, a couple of weird how cinema rewind episodes, but then we'll be back with something new christmas with the cranks in january, as it should

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