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now continue stuff. You missed in history, has not worked. I can't I'm Howie fry. You remember recently on our debates but paid, and we had that weird influx of self published a book spam yeah like suddenly just the post for showing up people promoting their publicity, but that often have nothing to do with. History None of them- and that was the only thing- and they had in common- was that none of them were about history. Otherwise they were by different people. They are posted from different accounts. There, indifferent chatterers. It was very soon And because I was wondering- maybe you know- maybe there had been some article that had gotten passed around. It was like to promote your e book posts on random people's Facebook pages. I posted on our Facebook page this face or pay listeners any of you

have any idea why this might be happening of a couple of people real, we're out of their way to yell at us. They call us idiots were even asking their question. Most people kind of shrugged their shoulders virtually about it. A few people gave us suggest to him trying to track down exactly what's going on, but a couple of people said you know would be cool is if you didn't episode about spammed food, not spam, like the unwanted e communication that stands food and I can get behind them because I will loudly and say I quite enjoy spam. Yeah well, and immediately from just the few facts that I already knew about spans influence on various cuisines in the wake of world.

Two. I was like yeah. Let's do the idea that sounds actually pretty interesting in autumn and then that led to several other people, chiding charming in with interesting tidbits about spam in history. So that is what we are talking about today. Thank you, The people who put their weird even expect Hunter Facebook page. Who is this? Are you it isn't journey. What we would call episode idea that I like sharing the journey is sometimes a lad times. You will ask us how we come up with these things. Well, that's an example, but though, yesterday to talk about spasms history and how spam played a part in some pretty important historical events, namely world war to him korean war here so in case anyone does not know. Spam is made by hormonal foods. George,

a or mail was born in eighteen, sixty in Buffalo New York. Now their last name was originally pronounced horrible to ride with normal, and it's not totally clear when horrible became formal because we both been saying hormonal all our lives and for the sake of consistency, we're just gonna go with hormones that was definitely with the company was calling itself by. The time span was invented So the hormonal family moved Toledo, Ohio in Georgia is just six and he worked in his father's territory after school. The pen of eighteen. Seventy three meant that the family found itself meeting additional income. So at the age of twelve George left school so that he could and more time working and make more money for the family. After a few brief stance in a couple of other jobs, he wound up working at his uncles meet packing business and he worked there until he was nineteen

and George continued to work, indifferent jobs throughout his young adulthood. He was working as a trembling salesmen when he found a meat shop for sale in often Minnesota, where he was passing through, while he was doing some business in his sales and he bought this meat shop any opened it putting his experience it. His uncles me packing operation into practice. Opening his own meet business soon, he really wanted the business to be more than just a butcher shop. So he borrowed some money, founded investor and establish George cornmeal and company. The George was just a geo with period after it and they operate. Out of an abandoned Kremer II. That was in eighteen, ninety one, and at that point he was thirty. One years old, all the United States biggest meet packing operations were in Chicago and here he was in Austin Minnesota hundreds of miles away from that sort of nexus of industry, and he was

Brian knew he was a small business in an industry that, at that point, was completely dominated by really established longtime powerhouses any also didn't actually have some of the equipment that he was going to need to be. But you know a large scale meet packer. For example, he did not have refrigerated railed cars at his disposal. Those have been around since eighteen. Seventy eight, but George, do not have any until, after the turn of the century, Sir George Formal needed to set himself apart in some way, since he couldn't just go heads ahead. Without these giant established meet packing companies, he decided to focus on two things.

The first was pork since more of the pig carcass was used, then, and many other food animals and quality. So when other businesses were cutting their pork products with built with pillars, he really stuck as much as he could just to meet that came from pigs and the company incorporated in nineteen o one and by ninety twenty four They were slaughtering a million hogs each year, George Orwell's J. He had other sounds as well, but Jane the one who plays a part in this part of the story. He was a veteran of world where one having served as chief quartermaster in the american expeditionary forces. J came back from the war with a sense of what canned goods can do in terms of feeding an army, so he encouraged torment to look into focusing on canned meat products. The company's first can ham came out in nineteenth

These texts in nineteen, twenty nine George hormone retired M J, took at the helm after his father was no longer part of the business and at this point, hormonal introduce didn t more beef stew informal, Chile, those both came out and maybe thirty five at about the same time. The horrible company recognised that it had a surplus of shoulder me from pigs. Now this wasn't a particularly popular cut of meat because meekly removing the meat from the bone was a really time and labour intensive process, and because the lot of consumers thought that it was inferior to other cuts of pork like him, and what the hormone company decided to do was to grind this. Shoulder me, along with some ham and am salt water of sugar and some sodium nitrates that lasting greedy preserves the color of the meat, and it also inhibits bacterial growth, and today spam also includes potato starch.

Was not in the original. It was added later to keep the liquid from stepping out of the meat and forming and gelatinous layer on top, which I remember seeing periodically again when I was a kid, and it was indeed of gross yeah. I was in the eighties when he made that this new products name was coined by Kenneth Dagger. Now. Who was not only a Broadway actor, but also the brother of a formal bp. He won a hundred dollars for his efforts, its allegedly portmanteau of spiced and but the specific some that are really not documented and hormonal claims that it. What it really stands for is a closely guarded secret with that makes its have like its somehow secretly, spelling out horrible things that can be contained in it, but the important thing that spam throughout the world by storm and we're gonna talk about that after we have a quick outbreak, Hapag has risen,

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Went for the great depression, but overall people were really excited about having access to an inexpensive shelf. Stable source of meat play it's really long shelf life meant that you could start up when you had extra money, and you would have like a nice little go to your pantry of edible spam also got an endorsement from George Burns and Gracie Alan on their radio. Show there the charming, depending on your taste, print, add for both spam and the shoe and which George says to Gracie crazy If a strange man offered to buy you lunch, what would you say and Gracie replies spam? I think its timing, but it is pretty to basically everything was treated with charming. To me also print hair. Add was the copy color hot spam hits the spot called bits spam in vegetable mould, spam and salad. Sandwiches hot spamming

Spam and waffles big spam spam burgers, singing radio commercial also came out in the forties that began and ended with the word spam spam spam spam and you look at it as I did look at it. Many times that state research It looks a lot like the Monty Python Sketch, but in reality it was going to the tune of my body lies over the ocean there. I just wish someone could convince Terry Germans to sing the spam song in his family voice to my Bonnie lies over the ocean. Other weaker would be real start again. About why war to really launch spam into the american patriotic consciousness. U S. Residents were encouraged to give up beef and premium cuts of other meats so that they can help the war effort and spam was a handy alternative. So our people were eating spam out of necessity towards the end of the great depression, because it was cheap and they didn't have a lot of money. The sign is more of a sacrifice to sit,

the United States, the hormonal company, along with other meat producers, made especially packaged army versions of spam. These were basically exe really large spam loaves and olive drab tins than they weren't branded as spam. With that distinctive blue spam label, they contained some extra salt so that they could withstand the temperature extremes of all the places that the troops were deployed. There were also some ordinary cans of spam or basically bought an opinion to trade making ends meet for the men's rations, formal well, but providing at least one a million pounds of spam during world war. Two, that's a lot of spam which spam it's running theme in world war, two soldiers discussed in a war and for the troops, the word I am actually came to mean any kind of processed and preserved meat, and it was

many a lot. It often seems like it was three may look, three meals a day every single day, so spam, three meals a day literally mean brand name spam, but processed meat, three meals a day. People basically thought of all of that stuff as spam. Similar to how all tissues are kleenex. Then that is the thing that horrible try so article in nineteen sixty six, when the hormone company was celebrating its fifth birthdays white. The Eisenhower wrote in a letter to you are retired hormone. President saying quote: I ate my share spam, along with millions of other soldiers, I'll even confess, to a few unkind remarks about it uttered during the strain of battle you understand, but as former commander in chief, I believe I can still forgive you for your only thin sending

so much of it that so much of it meant that a lot of service means for they would never touch another kind of spam once the war was over, and while this may been true at least temporarily many people sworn, never to touch another piece of spam wound up We know little nostalgic for it once the war was over. Eating. Spam took on this patriarch air, and it was bolstered this concept of patriotism linked to spam by hormones. Advertising campaign, which tides pham to wholesome values and patriotic spirit, and that advertising plan went on, threw out the fifties. It was also by heard by a sixty member Dan Street, known as the hormone girls who toward around in U S old fashioned and after the end of the war, after getting their start in nineteen. Forty seven. I hope we have pictures of those. I saw a couple I did not find any, but we can like put in our blogger anything Gotha there

some back of your great hollowing costume. The combination, Sal JAM, patriotism, method, spammed Haiti in the. U S really ran through the fifties in the sixties. Cookbooks featured spam is an ingredient in all kinds of dishes, but, as the seventies crept in stamps popularity started the fate of it. On December, fifteen nineteen, seventy, the last skit on that might episode of Monty Python. Supplying circus was the info spam sketch, in which a couple goes through a cafe where their serving a lot of spam, and then there are vikings. You also think about spam, then, on December thirty, first, nineteen, seventy four is episode of mash Hocker Entrapper drawn save radars pet lamb for being slaughtered for a feast by sculpting, a new one out of spam, weirdo yank of ex spam song son to the tune

Aryan stand came out in nineteen. Eighty nine, at which point the can meet, had really become cemented in the american consciousness as both a joke and junk food people started to think of as Mr Meet made of remnants, the way that hot dogs are reported to be, even though its ingredients had not changed. Aside from that addition of potato starch that we talked about earlier and today, people really kind of think of spam is dated and cheap at least most people in the United States. The case in several other parts of the world. Hey listeners. I wanted to tell you about a new pod cast from my heart radio called the women hosted by read. It is fascinating and deep dive interview show, where rose talks, to change makers in disruptors and she finds out what really drives them. So she will ask now. What was your first stand, and how do you navigate success and failure, and really

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but none that this funny and we truly are fans. Listen to will you accept. This rose on the I hurt, radio, app apple pie CAS or wherever you get your broadcasts, so to talk about spam and other parts of the world we need to back to world war, two for a minute and the United States. The land lease act was passed on March. Eleven nineteen, forty one and, as its name suggests the land least back- allow the United States to lend the orderlies supplies the materials to Ally Nations bout payment, if doing so was quote vital to the defence of the United States. So this was a way for the United States to help the war effort without actually committing troops, which would happen eventually, after the japanese them of Pearl Harbor on December seventh of the same year, through the lens lease spam made its way to Russia in Cuba, Khrushchev's memoir speaking World WAR, two, quote. There were many jokes going around in the army, some of them off Color

about american spam, but it tasted Nonetheless, without spam we wouldn't have been able to feed our army. Spam also made its way to several other parts of the world through the Land Lease ACT and through the presence of Americans, during the war, along with other military actions, so we're going to talk specifically Hawaii, which at this point was not yet a state as well as the Philippines and South Korea. And in Hawaii spammers influence came from two sources. One was the can t eyes who were stationed there or who pass through Hawaii on their way to other parts of the Pacific. The other was Hawaii, japanese population. So during World WAR Ii, in the Continental, United States. The government forced many job Americans into internment camps. This is absolutely The thing that is on the list for podcast episode later on. Consequently spam sometimes make the makes them

parents and japanese american food, because it was one of the fields that was being served in the camps, but Hawaii was not yet a state, so the United States, could not really begin in turning its citizens, and then you can make an argument that the United States government said and have been in turning its citizens without due process. In the first place it super did not have the authority to do in Hawaii. Also, the japanese population of Hawaii just too big to be in turned. They were waves, many people of japanese ancestry, the camps that would have been required were too large for the islands themselves to be able.

Support. There is no way that the United States could do in Hawaii what it was doing in the Continental United States. Instead to combat this perceived threat from people with Jill, japanese ancestry, restrictions were placed on the movements and activities of people that were of japanese descent in Hawaii, so Hawaiians were banned from deep sea fishing, which has been one of the ways that they are primarily so their food for the japanese community because of Hawaii remote location, landscape and the available food forces. The easiest protein thoris for japanese Hawaiians, too, used to replace what they lost from deep sea fishing was spam. Consequently, spam has been incorporated into many japanese dishes and these very based on different,

Nick groups who live in Japan, but in particular there is a lot of sort of hawaiian, japanese spam Eugene. There's a yummy restaurant here in ITALY and other does a yummy spam on trade with gravy and those Listen, I absolutely love it. The most famous example of spam dishes that they were making at this time, is spam must soon be with you They moved raise its wrapped in north sea weed and sometimes erroneously called spam sushi. Those kind of resemble Assisi role that receive its more accurate name today. Hawaii is, of course, a state consumes more spam than any other state and the island of Waikiki hosts and annual survey of jam. Let's go thanks to the presence of GM during

to an ongoing military presence. Thereafter. Spam also became very popular in Guam in Okinawa, in Korea and Japan. Citizens were really does desperately suffering during world war. Two as a side note, if you have not seen the japanese film grave of the fireflies, will give you an idea of how desperately hard things were for japanese citizens. During the war hand, me like spam, really save people's lives and consequently became incorporated into local cuisines. There is well in South Korea this continued during the Korean WAR american soldiers station there not considering spam to people early, valuable or important, were happy to use. It is trade into Greece goodwill, and they would. Sell it on the black market later on. And bearing the Korean WAR, the United States Army is postal Exchange or P act was

the only place that people can get meet spam was really what was reliable and since people can afford to buy it necessarily from the p acts, it really came to be considered a luxury an ingredient, in addition called brigades gay, which I hope I am pronouncing correctly- I, which has also called military stew and that's basically, ethics- do that so includes korean ingredients like chemistry of fried slab of poor, called Pew yuck, was also part of korean cuisine before the introduction of spam and spam became a replacement for pork and that dish when people couldn't get a hold of regular pork, So firm is undoubtedly an economy, class food and the United States, but it's a little more expensive in and this association with scarcity and expense from earlier times means that today, its frequently given is a really high class gift. Often this is part of a really

elaborate gift box that includes other foods. Korea is common. Leave the world's second largest consumer of spam after the United States and Japan similarly became popular Philippines, as an after effect of U S. Military presence today in the Philippines often purchased outside of the country by people who are travelling for pleasure or business and then brought home with them as traditional homecoming gifts. This means a lot of times, if you're in duty free shops at airports that cater to a lot of filipino travellers. There will be spam in the duty free shops and spam is treated in the Philippines, on both the black in the markets, a mirror actually nine different legitimately available varieties of spam there there is even a turkey version for the nations muslim population tuner with that tastes lake. I also wonder what that

like the reason that there is a black market in a grey market for spam, is that there are some restrictions on imports in the Philippines, which means there's more demand for spam than is actually allowed to be imported, and when, when you look at the numbers of the number of canned sold versus the number of people are allowed to sell it, it just doesn't add up. There is, this no spam coming from somewhere. So there's a legitimate argument to be made here that all of these examples are examples of undue american influence on other cultures, but in the case of spam in particular, local cuisines have really again spam and then absorb it and made it into something that is uniquely their own, whereas in the United States, people were usually basically using spam as a substitute for other meat rather than

making something new and uniquely spam out of it, and today spam is distributed in more than fifty countries in its trademarked in more than a hundred. There are actually to spam Cannes in the permanent collection at the Smithsonian and in the division of the history of technology. One was the original nineteen thirty seven can, which had open using a key and the other is a more modern luncheon meat can, which was introduced in nineteen. Eighty seven think has the pull tab style. The look the label for spam has stayed basically the same. All this time span was also served in a breakfast at the opening of a world war. Two exhibition the National Museum of American history and the circle back a little bit. The spammers manufacturer now is still majority owned by family, but it's no longer really family run and we still owns it bit. Other professionals of running things are in charge of the company

also, if averred had a whole, rather lengthy, section about labour history at the hormone company, which has some actually very interesting twists and turns and contradictions. There were parts of the country, history that were really revolutionary in terms of labour relations. Are there other parts of the company's history at which there were really contentious, unheeded strikes and then, in one case, a range auto immune disease that cropped up at one of its meat suppliers? The aim is the whole long areas of things, and then I went through this outline to edit it. It all seemed extremely ancillary to the story of spam.

I don't think we will have a whole episode on the history of labour relations at the hormonal company, but if you are interested in such a thing, I hope at the links see my sources on that in our showed a citizen can check them out for yourself. I most of my research for this sort of fell on either side of a weekend and on the Friday part I kept being like. Maybe I should go, get some spam and eat it cause I don't, I'm not sure I've ever written spam sure I did at some point as a child. Why have it in our three yeah now I know I've had should be fun, toast that the share. That's all I know it is another kind of military joke food we do. We have spent in our three day. Emergency get you know in case there's. Some kind of yeah, so that was,

Friday and then on Monday. I have these resources that had all of these spam recipes, and I kept me like that sounds disgusting like, though the ones that were you know that, military stew and spam receiving you, like. That's, not a really interesting to me with a narrow ones that were American feeds that were made with spam, and I was like that's the grossest thing that I have ever heard of. I'm not throwing me shade spam man. People have put together some growth recipes you haven't got one whatever you are. There are lots of non spam gross breadth of you, ok, one of them with fake escargot. And I'm just gonna experiments following casting. Let anyone know what that is: I don't like escargot in the idea of using spam to make fake escargot really grows to be out little, and on that note, I think turn to some listener. Mail will not about Pham there. This was their mail is SAM

it is about our great leap forward episode. We are, as we are recording. This were halfway through the publication of our many series on China under the home of Chairman MAO Zedong, so this is from SAM on one of the earlier episodes of the the serious, I'm a long time listener. First time. Writer really enjoy your podcast to thank you for your work. I am a Phd student who studies China and am currently doing fieldwork in China, where podcast such as yours have gotten me through countless hours of data collection and travel between research sites. I was very excited to see the many serious on China. I just finished. Listening to the greatly powered g, o f

And I figured I would write and tell you about one of the other significant legacies of the g. I left that you did not discuss an extension of the topic if ye well, during than she laughed China instituted the modern form of its household registration system as a means of actually implementing the planned economy in order to collect agricultural production from world communes and distributed success Lee to Urban communes. The government had to find a way to identify who lived where and what type of commune and to keep them. There's a redistribution could be effective. Every individual received a who co. I actually have not survived pronounce electrically or registration status, which identify them by physical location and type of commune, urban or

Bela fell to pieces. The other government institutions that were set up at this time to support the planned economy were scrapped, such as rigid one price systems for government collections, but household registration status remained up until the nineteen eighty four people were not legally allowed. The move outside of their registration location, meaning that labour mobility was practically non existent, but these restrictions were loosened in the nineteen aid made up until the nineteen eighty four people were not legally allowed. The move outside of their registration location, meaning that labour mobility was practically non existent, but these restrictions were loosened in the nineteen eighties and eventually abolished, and the ninety nineties, when they met, has really changed. However, as government alone,

of resources, while the government no longer divides out food rations, they do provide social welfare and the place of food distribution. Local governments began offering social where welfare benefits, including free public education, eligibility for maternity care and workers, compensation, health insurance and pensions based on individuals, registration status, some services, where Reserve for urban residents. Only such as pensions are, rural person could always rely on their land alignment to earn money after retirement and the services that were offered to both were set up and managed through two different systems, with urban systems. Better funded thanks, separate, but equal. These social, well welfare differences remain to this day. The complicating factor is that once ready

since that is, is inherited. Your status generally follows your mother. Regardless of what type of work you do you or where you are physically located up until the ninety ninety is, there were very few formal ways to change the status you were born with creating rigid inequalities. I'm in related topic in western news media is China's floating population or migrant workers internal migrants register. Far away from where their registration, statuses and many who have rural status. For these individuals who move to the coast to gain employment, there is significant labour surplus and areas they generally have new option to access local welfare services, such as locally provided health insurance, public education for their children and pensions, making socio economic mobility difficult and hindering integration of these two groups identified and separated during the time of the greatly forward. While this system is under reform, the subject of minors

recent research. There remains and will remain for many generations, a significant gap between those who have access to government services and those who did not just thought you might be interested in this other significant lit legacy of the jail, if say absolutely yes, we are interested in that legacy guy mentioned at the beginning of the whole many theories that there was no way to cover every aspect of it, so I am hugely happy that somebody spent the time to act, lane that? No part of it, which not only is something that we didn't talk about in the episodes, but is something that didn't even come up in the particular sources that I was using for research at all. So thank you so much SAM. If you'd like to write to us where it history podcast that how stuff works, dot, com or facebook is based but got com, fleshless been history and our twitter is missed in History- are tumblr is miss the mystery tumbled out common or on Pinterest Pinterest that harms lash missed in history. You can buy a t shirt

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