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ten, seventy nine and in the words of the Stanford Encyclopedia philosophy, he was quote, the pre eminent philosopher and theologian of the twelfth century hell It was one of his students and she was born right around the turn of the twelfth century and she was respected address of a prominent community of nuns, so they have had their own wives there, but they are best known today for their very tragic love story. It's commemorated and poems songs, novels and films. If either seen being John Malkovich, you may even remember the abolition in Hell always puppet show that features that Belgium. This is a dream, gloves story. It's one eyed! I described the plot of it to the boyfriend over there again and every time I would sort of get to a turning point. He would go in there ruins ok with that right now, come so hopeful. You know honey. They were not. Ok. With that

complete with lovers who were forced apart secret marriage, a castration and pleaded exhumations, which is why we're talking about it re before Valentine's day. What's more romantic than an exclamation. Really I now well the exhumations. Actually, our kind of romantic in a way. So we will get to that towards the end of her laughing awkward. Silence will have for no noise comes out my face this just frozen enough scowl as long ago, as is often the case, we're talking about the story because I kind of love it, but it is very sad and and and disturbing in many ways. So he is so I'll. Kick it off with a sort of the background of the whole thing, I should say at the front- we don't really know very much about Hella visas, life before she meant abattoirs. Do not even know the identity of her parents. On the other hand, Apple Ard had really made an aim for himself before her was even born and he wrote his life

Laurie down in a letter which is known as Historiae calamity them or the story of my misfortunes, so Pierre Apple are also known as Peter Apple Orchard was. The son of a night and family was on the lower wrongs of the nobility his father. Was an educated man and took pains to make sure that all of his children were educated to, but, as the eldest son, Abble Ard, was really meant to follow in his fathers, if its and in doing so, you would also be receiving a sizeable inheritance, however, Apple, Ard, really loved was letters and learning, and he gave up all of this potential knighthood to become a philosopher and, as he described it, quote, I fled utterly from the court of Mars that I might win learning in the bosom of Minerva, she's, a lovely sentiment, this quite lovely There are many lovely sentiments in the story to go with the parts that are horrifying. Here

came an inherent of Aristotle, also known as a pair and the pair We got their name from Aristotle's habit of pacing around while he was teaching, but at all who came to just generally described people who around a lot which applied to apple art as well. By the time he met help please. Spent years studying and teaching aristotelian philosophy and large logic all over. What is now France and he had developed his own philosophy of language and along the way he studied in Paris under William of Sham, who was in prominent theologian and logician at the time, and it became first of many conflicts between Abble Arden, another public figure out really depart and debated Williams teachings and when he Edward was judged to be the winner. He was quite boastful about and unfortunately tried to shame and embarrassed William, not the most noble behaviour, and this

Multimedia increased abattoirs, reputation and they cause him some under global problems in the intellectual community, always kind of his standard relating to people. Here, similar experience, not long after with another teacher and fell of lay who he'd sought out to learn from before later becoming his rival, after leaving Leon, Abattoir, went to Paris again and became scholar, residence at Notre down, and that's how This is uncle forbear sent Halloween to abattoirs for tutoring forbear was a cannon which is a type of clergyman, so at this point story, I've learned would have been about thirty years old fellow visas, AIDS is kind of subjected debate because we don't know exactly when she was born its cited as anywhere between seventeen and twenty five in here apple are described hello in his Historiae calamity. Them quote, of no mean beauty. She stood out above all

by reason of her by knowledge of letters now this two is rare among women and for that very reason it doubly Greece the maiden and made her the most worthy of renown in the entire kingdom. It was This young girl, whom I after carefully considering all those qualities which are wont to attract lovers, turning to unite with myself in the bonds of love and indeed the thing to me very easy to be done. Meanwhile, described himself ass quote possessed of such vantages of youth and comeliness, that no matter what woman. I might favour. With my love, I dreaded rejection of none. Not really short on confidence, no so the pair started out with a written courtship and eventually they wanted have more face to face conversations with one another, so abattoir convinced This is a goal to offer him lodgings in his house, which was also need the school, where he taught and full their basic.

Gave out a large free rein, Overhead Louise's education, he wrote quote the man simplest, It was nothing short of astounding to me. I should then more smitten with wonder if he had entrusted a tender lamb to the care of a ravenous. Wolf That to me sounds a little alarming less romantic more, like ie yeah. He seems a little creepy burnt. His description of their developing relationships sounds a little bit less predatory. Has he says we were united first in the dwelling, sheltered our love and then in the hearts that burned with it. Under the pretext of study we, our hours and the happiness of love. Hello eases point, View at the very start of their relationship really has no was not documented sums. We argue that she was a willing participants, but others point now passages letters in which Abble Ard says that he was sort of coercive in demanding, but in the end

insisted that she loved him passionate. We and completely. Time. Together became so consuming and so sensitive that outlined started to shirk his other duties both of her education and of the school where he was supposed to be teaching and hell always is all seemed blind to all of this, so even as people gossip in dropped him today, that something was up with his niece and her teacher. He didn't seem to catch on and when he inevitably did wise up to it after several months have always goal as one would anticipate separated them. Abolition is quite poetic that's too, he says each grieved most for himself, but for the other each thought to it. Not his own sufferings but those of the one he loved, very sundering, of our bodies, served but to link our souls closer together. The plan two of the love which was denied to us inflamed us more than ever

sometime after her uncle found them out Halloween She was pregnant and she told Abble Ard that she was so one day, while her uncle was away abattoir, bearded her out of the house and sent her, with his sister in Brittany until the baby was born. Halloween, Uncle no surprise was outraged. Abattoir to him and begged for forgiveness, insisting that he and help to ease truly loved one another here to marry her Louise in secret and full bear agreed. Let me one of them really wanted to get married. They sort of looked at marriage as this morally weak way to get away with having physical lust getting married, would also have been a huge blow to abarth reputation, and it would have put a cap on how far he could advance in the church of the highest levels of the clergy. Couldn't really Mary and since shirt was really the only path for somebody who had apple arts education. At that point, this was a problem if he married

he was going to be stalling his career permanently, but he was willing to do it because it seemed like the only way to appease her uncles, fury Apple Ard went back to Brittany, to retrieve Halloween's into marry her, but she actually refused him. She said that the plan to dangerous that she was not willing to sacrifice his potential in his reputation and the no way her uncle was really going to forgive apple art anyway, just because he married her according to apple art, after going on just at length about damaging marriage and children were to the study of Philosophy aluys that this If layman and Gentiles bound by nope, fashion of religion lived after this fashion. What are you a cleric and a cannon? Do in order not to prefer base voluptuousness to your sacred duties. To prevent this the rib. This from sucking you down headlong to save yourself from being planned

seamlessly and irrevocably into such filth. As this, not if you read of the idea of marriage at all, what a pity she went on to say how much sweeter and romantic it would be for her to be his mistress rather than his wife, because lovely a stronger bond between them than marriage could ever be. And in doing this hell always is basically saying she would sacrifice herself entirely for abattoirs sake to allow him to have her without standing in the way of his life and career, while she would endure basically all the consequences abalone I'd be convinced there and finally gave up saying then there no more left, but this that in doom. The sorrow yet to come shall be no less than the love. We too have already known witches some foreshadowing. This episode of stuff- you must have a history class- is brought to you by earnest if you have

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off when the baby was born, she named astrolabe and they same with abattoirs, sister and return to Paris to be married in secret very early one morning in the presence of Halloween uncle and some of abattoirs, friends and families being an intelligent. Was definitely right about her uncle. Even though their marriage was supposed to be a secret fallback, told people that they had got married, so heavily is publicly insisted that her uncle was lying, which infuriated him and fearing for her safety Abattoirs send her to the convent where she had been educated when she was younger place outside of Paris called origin Toya? They continue to see one another. There's a passage in one of her Louise's letters and when she talks making love in a corner of the comment itself

but have always is uncle interpreted her entry into the comment as a ploy by Apple hard to get rid of her, so he bribed the in the house were, abattoir was staying, so they could get access to his rooms and he sent it servants to break into a large room in the middle of the night where they actually castrated him so according to analyze the next morning, an enormous crowd who came out of reach This, though, he's saying that they were morning the loss of his man, parts probably was This is the heart of the translation that it was really that people were extremely upset at the the the gold disfigurement he had undergone and not so much just the loss of physical sexual prowess right he says it is difficult, nay, impossible for words, to describe the amazement which bewildered them, lamentations. They uttered the uproar with which

harassed me or the grief with which they increased my own suffering. He simultaneous Lee bemoaned his fate and saw it as a fitting punishment. Since it, however, from him the part of his body with which he had sinned Avalon we did to the monastery. It sounded me at first, This was more to hide from what had happened to him than out of any new found religious devotion. He became a monk. Oh easy with this point was already sheltering in combat two thousand. My Benedictine, none were Send any abattoirs tried to continue with his life of study and teaching, but to turn its attention to faith instead of philosophy. The monastery ascendancy was enamel urge were words, quote utterly worldly and its abbot was corrupt aboard. In popular as a teacher, even ass, he criticised the monastery and tried very hard to reform it. His car,

The criticism naturally drew the ire, the other teachers and monks at the monastery who all rallied against him and complained about him to bishops, archbishops and any other church official who would listen he also while he was there wrote books that were deemed to be heretical and is pretty fields with other philosophical and religious thinkers, which we reference at the beginning of the podcast kind of came back. The hot him hard fled to champagne and became a hermit students, a philosophy, continued He came out to try to get him to return to teaching when he did, but he was constantly criticised and nice for applying logic to matters of faith, and that was a practice that was viewed as very threatening to the medieval church after awhile, he and his students created this community of teaching and learning that they called Lop Ear, Eclat eventually he handed La Para, clad over to Hell. Louise and the nuns from the convent where she'd been staying because

their convent had been disbanded. After some internal church feuding, she became our best at Lop ear, clad in Hawaii, became highly respected in her own right. At this point being this required skill in both administrative and religious work and she do drew pray he's from Peter the venerable and other prominent religious figures, she was also fluent in Hebrew. Can latin and she taught these languages to the other nuns as well abalone continued to teach and to serve as an abbot. Although his skeptical manner of approaching religious thought continued to draw fire eventually, he wound up because of this being accused of heresy and he was condemned at a council at fall in eleven forty, his hence was lifted only after Peter the venerable I intervened afterwards. Health, really fail and he died in eleven. Forty two, the venerable built, a tomb for him and SAM Marcel, but Helen,

had him moved and re buried, Lapierre Eclat, so that she could watch over him. She Another twenty years before dying sometime in eleven, sixty three or eleven sixty four Lapierre Eclat, also but a highly respected convent under under her leadership with six daughter houses as well and there's a story she was actually buried an apple orchards grave, but there's no substantiation of that in the record. She was very next to him and their burial place was moved to a drier location in fourteen ninety seven in sixteen sick the letters but see in abattoirs had exchanged between each other were published for the first time and in sick in twenty one, the nuns at La Eric Latin moved their bodies to a new and more impressive tomb to satisfy curious visitors. They repeated this

exclamation and re burial a few more times in conjunction most of the time, with new translations of the letters coming out in a sort of influx of analogue analyses, letter tourists and the constantly upgrade the setting for the no crowds- I presume yes in early nineteenth century, Hell always were moved to the cemetery perilous, as in Paris where they are today they lie together in a stone sarcophagus carved with both of their resemblances and its under a roof supported by pill. Some arches, the two. In parallel. Chaise was designed by Alexander Marie Lenoir, who was the director of the Museum Monument France's between Eighteen, ninety and eighteen. Sixteen, Lenoir actually obtained. There remains from La Para, clad in eighteen hundred and then created this tomb that had sort of a foe, medieval, look and feel, and he incorporated some pieces from

What was reported to be some of the earlier tombs that had existed at Lapierre Eclat, the two self is more about being evocative of their lives and their love story than authentic to the art and architecture of the period in which they lived. We I believe that the real remains are probably buried there, because they were measured and authenticated when Lenoir acquired them. So anytime bodies give move that many there's always a question mark of. Is that really do we think it is death? They were verify, especially since the remains started out in the twelfth century, but before we about these letters that they exchanged with each other in their other writings. Let's take another moment and talk about our sponsor fantastic, this episode of stuff you missed in history, glances brought you buy Sakharov three years, a really good time to take stock and change your habits because we all want a beer.

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we credited her, but modern scholars contend that help to ease the really was influential came to enlarge thoughts in the area of ethics. This is it first, all of older scholarship, claim that Halloween his thoughts were borrowed in entirely from apple art. Tat has to do without August was on the idea of hypocrisy and how life you're living outward lesion match up with the life that you're living inwardly, which she herself was very distressed by that idea. Given the fact that she had got into a comment for persons other than a spiritual devotion, so they're. In addition to all this, there is a lot is that Abattoirs and Halloween's route to each other after their relationship had ended When was too abble Ard from Hello Eve after she had read his Historiae column attacked him. He wrote this about

fifteen years after their relationship had ended and when Hell always got it and read it, she was deeply distressed and very worried by what she read there about his mental state and how they had to pick Their relationship and the like she was so quite angry that twelve years, he had not once express concern or gratitude for her joining the combat with Am I really wanted to do and she had done entirely as sick a sacrifice for his sake, Personal letters are very passionate and very pained. She. With how upset she is that, as we reference to a moment ago, she took him. How is it because she loved ABBA lard, not because she loved God, she also of how much she loved, Adeline, saying things like my heart. Not in me, but with you and now even more. If it is not with you, it is nowhere truly without you, it cannot exist. Shit

the road of her sexual frustration quote even the celebration of Mass when our prayers should be purer lewd visions of these pleasures takes such a hold upon my unhappy soul that my they are on their wantonness instead of on our prayers I should be groaning over the since I have committed, but I can only size but I have lost wait in her letter see accused abolition of feeling only last for her and not love and interrupt he agreed with her. That's not what you want to hear back. We have a large letters, are reserved there a bit luxury and there really lacking in romance. So Some people frame this as a large being rational while hello Eve is emotional, but of abattoirs? Writing really is quite emotional too. It's just that all of his emotion is directed toward religious matters and his sort of personal torment and in what his life has become

while her always emotion is all directed at Abble Ard and they all extreme letters of direction about how to establish a rule for her commute you ve nuns, and they discussed matters of faith in scripture. So not all their correspondence with just I loved you love you. I love you so much a new kind of drop the ball, and human rights in Europe most of the time when you find collections of them, they're they're dead, added into like the more personal letters in the more or to a letters where they address questions about strict scriptures and and how Le Pyrrhic let should operate in that kind of thing, marry some debate about the authenticity of these letters. Their relationship happened during the eleven eleven hundreds, but the oldest copies of these letters are from the thirteen hundred. So naturally, this has led to speculation about whether they each

we wrote everything that was attributed to them and the three schools of thought, or that there Equally, there said to be that apple and then there's another, that is, that apple art in fact, route. All of the letters There is another that some other unrelated person wrote them later on as the bit of medieval fan thick the overall, but you no definitely not a hundred percent. Unanimous consensus is that they are what they say. They are that their letter from apple are to help ease and vice versa, because they are so all of you can read many of them when the internet or free, should you be so inclined Yes, the happy Valentine, valued out, I'm castration and we don't really early. Second find what happened to Baby Astor, like we know the guy. I dont remember ever hearing about that

baby astrolabe stayed in Brittany with Abattoirs, sister, but otherwise, like don't really have any sense of that. Like we know that I dont remember hearing about that. Yeah baby astrolabe has stayed in Brittany with. Many times together when it seems like at least from raw take point of view. Things had kind of fizzled out out there that, while there are the time they were both deceased, there. I think they're, very romantic relationship with one another seems to have come to a complete halt from the time that he was castrated. I think, had he not been castrated, they probably would have continued to have some kind of

secret relationship with one another, but it then once that happened it wasn't just because he did not have the physical parts anymore, but because that, with such a hugely devastating experience for him he felt completely saved by the whole thing. He had sort of become this public figure who had literally disfigured, because of this whole thing like he was like now now devote my whole life to the other thing. I think, these, though continued to the rest of her life, even after their corresponded, stopped being about how much she missed him and how much she loved him. I think she really carried that wherever certainly seems that way near to her. Listener mail for a new, and it is not about this.

This is actually there. Sometimes I go through the inbox for some reason, and I find something that I meant to read a long time ago that then I forgot all flag things and then go. Oh, I forgot to read those yeah. This is my flag for follow up file and I went oh yeah I'm and to read this, and this is from Alisha unleashes lives. Writing to us about our say, shown a gown I observed from a while back she said, I wanted to write in response to station grown in the hay on court. This. Big, I'm well acquainted with give him I'm majored and east asian studies in college. Not only have I read the pillow book for class, including having written system established, they showed a gold mine was a list of fish and included shark weak, but I have also read a variety of other hey on, and chemicals diaries. I just had a couple of notes. You meant in the clothing, but an important aspect that you only hinted at was how much clothing served as a status symbol like many courts. The kind of

thing, as well as colors one could, where was directly related to one's status. Really true in the hay on air, a court, so many He's diaries include elaborate descriptions of clothing, because it tells a lot about the person in question. I also to give out to my favorite, lady in japanese court. Lady me do I like to keep, or showed a gown. She has basically unknown, despite the fact that she's very impressive woman who, unlike the Two seems to have demonstrated serious political Sadie is speculated that huh father not passed away. She could have been empress and fair. Was a concert to the emperor? Go Fouquet user, her diary? known in English, is confessions of lady Nijio or towers? a Tarin. I hope I have them accurately Which literally translates to an unasked for tail is one of my favorite books, a lot of the same vice of court life details, including a several year along bombs. I competition and

very long and complicated incident involving the gruel stick ceremony you mentioned. If you and the pillar work. I highly recommended. Thank you so much Felicia, yes, indeed I'm sorry that I did not reverse before now, because that is from back at the beginning of December hit. She wrote this. Try a little off. Yes, it does you are able Arden Halloween, at which point I makes it exactly the same. The new final resting place. They may be moved later here If you would like to write to us, you can we're history, plant gas, discovery, dot, com or also want at most in history and on Facebook, Facebook that calm, Flash missed in history. Our tumblr is missing, Tumblr, not calm, and now we are on pinterest pinterest dot com, Slash missed in history. If you

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