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Behind the Scenes Minis: Asoka and Catherine

2020-05-08 | 🔗

Tracy and Holly talk about Asoka and connections to pop culture, and the revelations of Catherine the Great's devotion to the arts.

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a class of twenty twenty, we know things have been kind of out of the ordinary lately. You're, not gonna, get the graduation Sarah. So I hurt radio found some people to write commencement speeches. Just for you, John Legend, Hillary Clinton into over twenty of your favorites from DJ call it a coach can have you one block two holes. Listen to. I hardly knew from Minsk. Speeches drop me fifty Herminius Sunday May. Seventy cross all these stations brought to you by two readings, taking the class of twenty twenty valedictorian to another. Welcome to stuff humanist and history glass, a production of I heart, radio I and welcome to our actual writing Tracy. Well, then, I'm highly frying. We talked about a showcase weak, yes, and not once did I mention a shocker leaving the jet. I order you now that you mention that I'm I'm surprised that there was no star wars.
Talk I also ask, as we are working on this, I wondered when we publish the episode, if star wars, and are going to be lower than in them. You like they tricked me it's not about a showcase from star wars all well. Star wars and soak is a sofa yeah and not a joker and spell differently, Yad spellings list. This will not know this highly knows this. There are at least three spellings of a showcase in outline, because spelled in a bunch of different ways, because it is a name that you know it two thousand years old from a different language and say there like different methods of in liberating it and in the consensus, is that the ages bits pronounced with this sound There are lots of different spellings and some of the spellings. Could be more easily mistaken for the STAR wars character. Yes,
but also that is she that is also true Yes, the star wars, She is now man Coolbell Bell, because there are similarities between the two. You asked me what your prepping, this I remember how exactly you phrased it lake is. No met, George, that them the star wars. Characters are named after Indians have come in the story, girl figures yeah. I think I think the question with something like is an intentional in star wars, universe, that there are characters who seem to be named for aid, indian historical figures yeah their characters in the star wars, universe named after lots of historical figures or words from other languages that have meaning yeah if someone else who has been on my list for years at this point is awkward, the first who was another long ago, historical figure on the indian Sub continent.
Whose name is spelled like Admiral Kirk BAR but not pronounced the same. Why is it spell this same? I dont think is that I'm not positive. This is at our new podcast called. How do we spell words, smell the same a star wars, Garriga ass. The thing is, I don't know how much you have watched Clun worse, I haven't latched, because a sofa is very much driven by similar ideology, the game as a chauffeur I'd, there's no accident that those names or somewhere she her whole driving principle is always to care for others. In the new episodes that we have just been released were not through this season, yet were eight episodes in, as we record, There are moments even when she says when someone needs help, you help them. That's all there is to air
and that's kind of part of foot. I bribed spoiled things a little bit by commenting right out of the gate, a thing that happens to her her quartered, though, to be fair that spoiler is years but yeah. So too, it's one of those fabulous and fascinating things I also made a strange pop culture connection in my head. That will make no sense, probably to anyone but me having nothing to do with star wars, but instead, Larry mercury lonesome, dove, ok, have you read that book? now so, as we are talking about all carvings of the edicts, but it may be Then there is. This, item in lonesome. Does this whole idea is that its ranchers out in the West, when that was not a settled area and they have set up this horror stable and they have a sign.
And it's one of those things were. The sign keeps getting additional things painted on it, its long. If I dont know if it was a door or if it is door shaped, but it keeps getting additional script added to it, including a phrase in Latin and just all of these things, so that people that come up to it find themselves puzzling over what the heck it's all supposed to be about. And it made me think of that when we were talking about the edicts and people not knowing how to read the again what they are. But I cannot in good I like it. I would be decision disingenuous if I tried to call myself a Buddhist but the principles of Buddhism have been really important in my life and have helped me in a lot of ways. Oh reading. I so much about This leader, who am like, seems too
definitely had a past that would not conform to any kind of buddhist ideology of what is correct or good And then, to try to rectify that, I just found very comforting and soothing in in these troubled times. Yet with the even if we were not in these troubled times right, there's a reason that this story has become important culturally to so many people in its like a redemption story, is soothing. As you said, it's also aspiration all it makes people feel like there is always hope that they can do better in their own lives. There. So it is spent Lee poignant now, as we struggle through a lot of a lot of difficulty and people not always being their best, but. Think, that's why it so it is so persistent historically, is because that's like a basis everybody needs to feel like things could get better at source, episode this week was on Catherine, the great per se,
vaguely opera reddest work yeah, so I had seen passing reference to her having written opera before we got into brainstorming for this. This episode but I did not know any of the detail about it. Having more of the detail about it. There are several of them that I would like to just read all the way through confide in English. Translation of some will hear her because some of them sound really delightful. I wish someone would stage them would be fantastic. I hurts my heart, knowing that she got slammed by so many people for promoting the arts, because people really thought it was an evidence of her for a voluntary yeah. But we need are to emulate the combination of she. She clearly genuinely really loved it then also she. She really thought that.
Being a patron of the arts and developing an artistic culture could chain the way the world viewed Russia and changed the way Russia viewed itself it's interesting because it so parallel to lose the fourteenth ideology that re absolutely. I had not thought, as I was working on it. Any now being like why to make France the the place of culture, Francis APEX culture of the world's yeah yeah as it did have a lot of similarity to that. One thing that came up that I I had in my outline and I'd, just as I was revising it to try to make it into something cohesive could not find a great place. To put it. We, talk about the these four Brazil is in in the eighteenth century in Russia, one of things that the hearse Paul the emperor did, was outlawed depictions of any of the monarchs in opera or other theatre.
Part of that was sir, still to two points, it is a legacy. It was like if somebody wrote a really satirical opera, that Saturn, Catherine, the great and re dementia questions about the parentage of her children like that was gonna call to question whether he was supposed to be on the throne. Then there were general worries about whether the kinds of scandalous rumours that were spread about her, whether that was gonna like fall back on him, so it was It was illegal to specifically depicts the previous monarchs that wasn't always followed, but why thing that did happen in the eight century was that in a lot of comic opera Russia, this serene US stock character, evolves who was not spent. The a past impressive Russia was the scene of fictional character of the thirteenth Who was normally a foreigner
normally had some kind of magical or supernatural power. So a lot of times it was like a serene slash sorceress. And at best was an anti hero or might just be the outright villain of the work and a lot of people. Have traced that stock character back to you that the reaction to these four emperor says most of whom have either been born outside Russia, Russia or, educated outside Russia? There is this whole idea that they were a foreign influence, and I thought that was really interesting through line between them, Eighteenth century impulses of Russia and the trends that developed in comic opera yeah It is such a pity to have to know at her. Son erased so much of her legacy dad He really did just for come at me, like I'm gonna under all the stuff that my mother did their relationship was. It grew
like The Empress Elizabeth had mostly raised ham. He did not really trust his mother. There was some some indication that she may be plans to put some one else on the throne instead of hair, just it heaps heeds so done a lot of intentional work to try to take her legacy apart as much as possible. The intrigues yeah. That seems like an ok stopping point for this Friday yeah. Hope folks are gonna, have as much as possible a restful and relaxing weekend starting May 15th you can watch the great on Hulu, which was the sponsor for the second episode this week. I mixed
for that joke, as good legitimately outside of any sponsorship. It looks very fine. I was quite a lot of fine, but we we had already agreed to do it before seeing the trailer which Any context makes me a little nervous, because you know tv shows and movies can go all kinds of directions and, as soon as I saw the trailer I'd like this is like fun yeah on board. With this it looks thud, and I just like the idea of something tat. You can just sit back and laugh at We are living through crazy. Stressful types yeah little stuff, you missed in history class the production of a heart radio for more planned cap for my heart, radio visit by her radio have added my cans or wherever you listen to your favorite shares.
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